Narcotics sniffer dog sweep at condo?

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by Expresso

Some buildings it's the opposite with the proximity to neighbors smoke inevitably ends up inside if you have your windows open.

usually that way, as most patios etc are considered common or semi common property.

In my experience as a dope smoker, seems like people around me had more of a problem smoking on the balcony than inside the unit because way more people smell it outside where their windows are open, intake vents etc. etc. than inside where the smell is somewhat dispersed. Cigs though just reak forever once you start smoking inside

[Mikoyan]

I thought most buildings prohibit smoking in the common areas because of the TCA. Plus all the complaints about butts being thrown down from the higher floors.

"The B.C. Tobacco Control Act (TCA) bans smoking in common areas of condominiums and within six metres of a doorway, window or air intake of common areas."

Once pot's legal, my assumption is they'll just place it under similar rules as to where you can smoke it.

[Great68]

Originally Posted by white rocket

. If a dog smells the door of a unit and singles it out does the Strata now have probable cause to enter?

No.

Stratas aren't police.

A strata can only ever enter in case of an emergency.

[SumAznGuy]

Originally Posted by Great68

No.

Stratas aren't police.

A strata can only ever enter in case of an emergency.

Or giving the units enough notice to "check smoke detectors" once a year.

[hchang]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

If i was paying strata fee's id be fucking choked money is going towards this shit

If I was a taxpayer I'd be choked if money was....

Oh wait

[Mr.HappySilp]

Originally Posted by white rocket

Blazers are gonna blaze. I still don't see how this would deter anyone unless you are clearly seen on a surveillance video doing so. If a dog smells the door of a unit and singles it out does the Strata now have probable cause to enter? Even with notice? I get that weed smoke is troublesome for strata's and those who do not partake and the smell would be annoying to those same people but how does one go about enforcing it? The rules are going to get a lot tighter when it becomes legal next year so perhaps these are just the preliminary steps that are being taken.

Dealers may stash product in the lobby and have their customers wait for someone to enter to gain access and then pick up their purchase in the agreed spot. Perhaps it leaves a gap from drop off to pick up and thus preventing a trafficking charge conviction.

Not likely. Is like smoking, you aren't allow to smoke inside your unit even the balcony. At least in my apartment. I suspect it the same rules for weed. How do they do it was your unit that does it? I have no idea but during my stratas meeting people are able to pinpoint which floor and even have a good educational guess which unit is smoking in their balcony (maybe the direction of the smoke or something).

How do I know this? One of the girls I know that lives on the higher floor always smokes in her balcony and during the meeting it was her floor and the direction her balcony was facing. There are people who are super picky and will do anything they can to find out these stuff. It wouldn't be fun if you are smoking your weed and someone calls 911 and enter your unit for whatever reason with the building manager. Luckily the people around my floor are 2 old couples, a daughter and her mom and a few single females. I doubt they smoke or do drugs.

[Mr.HappySilp]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

If you own your unit however, there isn't very much recourse you can take to stop it. Pets are one thing because they are coming and going through common areas, parkades, etc

Besides getting fined over and over again it's going to be a hell of a court battle to ever take actual action on it.

Do buildings actually have a complete smoking ban even inside a residents unit? Only lived in one apartment building but I don't ever recall seeing an outright ban on smoking in most buildings

My building bans smoking even insuite and balcony. Basically is for fire protection. There is also smoke detectors insuite and you are just unplug them (is a central system if you try to uplug it it will go off). Not sure if it will go off due to cigarettes or weeds but it does go off due to smoke from cooking and other things like gas leak.

[Ch28]

Originally Posted by SumAznGuy

Or giving the units enough notice to "check smoke detectors" once a year.

Not sure about you guys, but it's usually someone from the fire department that comes in to check and no strata council member has ever been present

[Nocardia]

I have a friend who owns in that same building....crazy how big of a deal this has become.

Although he rented to someone in cash...and somehow a "locksmith" destroyed the door. Shame really.

[azncreationz]

Originally Posted by Ch28

Not sure about you guys, but it's usually someone from the fire department that comes in to check and no strata council member has ever been present

Depends on your building or Property Manager. In my building, the resident care-taker accompanies the Fire Alarm Technician into every suite. I've also tagged along in some cases as well, since I'm a strata council member.

As for the smoking issue, we have a smoke-free building and have advised tenants to smoke outside at the sidewalk. Obviously, not everyone is going to agree to this, and they will only get sent a warning letter and/or fine if someone complains.

[westopher]

Thats pretty fucked. Just some fucking crazy strata council member thinking they are saving the world one stupid decision at a time. I don't really touch drugs anymore, weed or anything, but I'd be rattled if someone tried to pull that shit in my building. I mean, even people smoking around or on the balcony, weed, or cigarettes, its gonna get in my unit, but whatever. Be a decent neighbour and turn the other cheek unless its something absolutely ridiculous. Too many condo owners act like the whole fucking building should be based around their likes/dislikes.

[geeknerd]

I was going to email the manager today asking what lead to this and what results he expects but they put a notice up cancelling the search. I guess enough people have put some sense in to the manager. Or maybe he read this thread lol.

[BIC_BAWS]

LOL I had a suspecting feeling that this was where my buddy lives. Two posts and one message in, yep, confirmed. Granted, there's a terrible stench on weed in the elevator..

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[SkinnyPupp]

On one hand, people should let others do whatever they want as long as it's not affecting others in a negative way.

On the other, if you are smoking weed in the elevator, that is definitely affecting others in a negative way.

[winson604]

To be clear though is it a stench of weed that lingers in the elevator as in someone is blazing in there or is it a complaint that a lot of people blaze so their smells lingers in there long enough that the next person to get on the elevator smells it from the people who were just in there? I guess we may not know, some people are way more sensitive to smell as well.

[geeknerd]

I highly doubt people are smoking weed in the elevator. However, I can smell when someone who has weed on their body enters the elevator and obviously if someone has just smoked some. I havent experienced this in this building yet but at my past building, i have.

It's no secret smells linger and will remain trapped in an elevator. Cigarettes, mcdonalds, churchs, pizza, subway all have a distinct smell and I can usually tell if it was in the elevator recently lol.

One elevator does stink like shit but its because they put a fucking piece of carpet since the building opened (for the 'moving elevator') and haven't done shit but spray febreeze to "clean" it.

[white rocket]

This issue came up on CBC news this morning on my way in to work. Clearly it's an issue big enough to warrant a news article on CBC. I caught drips and drabs from it but it sounds like this will become a trend in the Lower Mainland. K9 units in common areas and in-unit inspections with the appropriate notice given are being pushed to become the norm.

Curious if this stems from the upcoming legalization of marijuana as people have been blazing in strata's for decades yet this inspection enforcement seems new. It can't be that now, all of a sudden, the people are rising up and complaining.

[westopher]

I literally have nothing to hide, but if anyone other than a cop for a fire official said that they were going to inspect my unit, I'd tell them to go fuck their dad.

[white rocket]

^^^Imagine if that persons dad just died of cancer or some shit. Haha! When I start thinking about "mama" jokes or bringing parents into my semi-sarcastic somewhat cocky rhetoric that always crosses my mind. Not sure if I could recover from that and still come out on top of that conversation. Lol!

I digress. It would seem that the line between tenancy rights/privacy and the strata/building owner's power is pretty thin with a constant push/pull battle. Curious if laws and rulings change over the years and get updated based on the changes within society. Makes me forever grateful to be in a detached home. I wouldn't move into strata even if I was a fucking refugee.

[Mr.HappySilp]

Originally Posted by westopher

I literally have nothing to hide, but if anyone other than a cop for a fire official said that they were going to inspect my unit, I'd tell them to go fuck their dad.

If the purchase an apartment then I suggest you read the fine prints and attend all strata meetings and voting coz those issues are stated in the fine prints and gets voted in. Don't like it, get a house then.

[EmperorIS]

Are people actually recklessly blazing it up in their units that warrants such a response from their neighbours/strata?

I mean, if your strata is putting up this much of a fuss, and you really have to blaze/smoke, can't you just turn on the vent or get an air purifier? I don't think strata would vote in something just because they want to fuck with blazers?

If its to fight against grow-ops/drug houses, then I totally agree.

[murd0c]

this is the reason why I moved out to Mission and bought a house, I can do what ever the fuck I want and don't have to worry about someone that lives 3' away from me bitching cause I'm smoking one on my back deck. Ya Mission is far out but a 2500sqft house on1/4 acre lot with tons of tree's and privacy makes it all worth it!

[westopher]

Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp

If the purchase an apartment then I suggest you read the fine prints and attend all strata meetings and voting coz those issues are stated in the fine prints and gets voted in. Don't like it, get a house then.

I've read my strata agreements and under no circumstances does it say are they allowed private inspections to sniff my fucking condo for drugs.

[geeknerd]

I wonder if this thread was the cause of CBC reporting

anyways, heres an article from straight.com written today.

https://www.straight.com/news/957261...ment-buildings

For many years, sniffer dogs have been detecting illicit drug labs in housing complexes around the world.

It's also has become a hot legal issue in the super-litigious United States.

So it shouldn't come as a surprise that canines are doing this work in Vancouver.

This morning, CBC Radio News has reported that more sniffer dogs are being deployed by Vancouver-area landlords in public areas of buildings.

The station quoted Margrett Donley, the long-time director of administration at Canadian K9 Detection Security and Investigations Ltd.

Canadian K9 Group's website offers a drug-sniffing dog service for people "who may be concerned with drug use in their homes".

It's not the first time this issue has been covered in the local media. As far back as 2006, then Vancouver Sun reporter Nicholas Read wrote about how drug-sniffing dogs were being used to warn landlords of illicit operations in their buildings..

Many years ago, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that police dogs cannot do random drug searches in public places.

However, that decision didn't apply to private-sector companies that own sniffer dogs.

More recently in 2013, Canada's highest court clarified the rules in the use of sniffer dogs. It ruled that it's legal for police to use these canines in warrantless searches if there's a "reasonable suspicion based on objective, ascertainable facts" that criminal activity might be occurring.

I guess a private sector sniffer dogs sole purpose is to serve as a loophole for the police to get the "objective, ascertainable facts" requirement to use their own K9s.

[TouringTeg]

Drug-sniffing dogs are being used by Vancouver landlords to keep buildings free of narcotics - British Columbia - CBC News