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Old 09-03-2017, 04:46 AM   #26
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fuck, i would'nt even miss work to go to court and fight a $200 ticket.
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Do you know anyone who has went to court to fight a ticket and lost? I wasn't aware it is a lost cause...
Most of the people who try it without real evidence to the contrary, lose.

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When it comes down to it, most of the *******s who posted negative replies probably do way more shittier stuff without the rest of us really knowing (shady business deals, ripping off others, lying, etc.) - but you know, someone else's shit always smells worse.
This has to be one of the stupidest leaps I've ever seen someone make. Just...wow.

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We're also the taxpayers whose money helps finance the court system are we not? People complain about how backlogged the courts are, or how difficult it is to dispute a ticket that is actually invalid, well here's why.
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I think OP assumes by lawyering up he'll get out of it because that's what lawyers do. Sorry but this ain't Suits and Harvey Specter isn't showing up outside the cops house at night to tell him to drop the ticket or he'll show his wife the pictures of the affair he's having.
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I'm actually not even sure what or how you are fighting this? Are you planning to say "I'm pretty sure I wasn't speeding" and ... then see what they say?
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You can probably talk to the cop on the court date to see if he'll let you pay the fine but not lose points. If your confident that you weren't speeding than plead not guilty in court and let the Judge decide.
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Take it from a guy who has some notorious fob friends speeding in ferrari's and lambos. just pay the fine. They've all tried the court route before and its a waste of time.

One guy tried to tell the judge he's a student and that its his dads ferrari. The judge told him his dad can pay for his fine hahaha.

These guys have heard it all. The only thing you can do is like the guys stated before, hope that the cop doesnt show. You can help yourself out a bit if you keep rescheduling the court date a few times and hopefully that'll throw the cop off.

if you ask for a reduction of the fine and drive anything better than a 92 camry, good luck... they usually will give you like 20 bucks off at best.
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Take it from a guy who has some notorious fob friends speeding in ferrari's and lambos. just pay the fine. They've all tried the court route before and its a waste of time.

One guy tried to tell the judge he's a student and that its his dads ferrari. The judge told him his dad can pay for his fine hahaha.

These guys have heard it all. The only thing you can do is like the guys stated before, hope that the cop doesnt show. You can help yourself out a bit if you keep rescheduling the court date a few times and hopefully that'll throw the cop off.

if you ask for a reduction of the fine and drive anything better than a 92 camry, good luck... they usually will give you like 20 bucks off at best.
I hired the same lawyer twice for two tickets and he got it thrown out before the judge. It was back in the day when I wasn't so bright but i needed a clean record for work. In OP case just pay it

Second time the deal he told the cop was I would take a student driving course. I did and that was the end of it.
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just pay the fine and take it as a learning lesson
i think the speeding ticket scrubs out of your record after 10 years, correct me if I am wrong
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If you are only going 5 over the speed limit, you can fight it easily, but then again, almost no cops will pull you over for just going 5 over.

Personally, I'd just accept it. At the very most, you can reduce the damage by a little bit, but forget about waiving the entire thing.

And for the people who said laser jammers, those are expensive, and you can potentially get a criminal offense(rather than a less severe traffic offense) if a cop find out. So not worth it.
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IMO the only winner in this situation will be the lawyer you decide to go with.
It's a waste of everyone's time and money, except the lawyer, who is getting paid for it. The amount will definitely exceed the cost of the ticket and any other costs you think you are paying from this case.
I'm actually not even sure what or how you are fighting this? Are you planning to say "I'm pretty sure I wasn't speeding" and ... then see what they say?
reading OP's post, it seems he is okay with paying more than the ticket amount for lawyer fees.... I think he is more concerned about having a squeaky clean driving record.
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How fast, allegedly, were you going?

And did they tag you in the 50 zone or in the 80 zone?
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Thanks for the tips and the PM's.

Long weekend is over, so I should be getting calls today from the few lawyers I contacted. I'll update you guys after that.

I was on Marine drive, driving east, one block past boundary. The speed limit was still 50km/h, So apparently I was going above 50km/h.

When I was pulled over, I was taken a back. I guess I was in a little bit of a shock. I didn't say one word to the officer. I gave her the license and insurance, and I don't even really remember what she told me.

I do remember her saying I need to slow down, but I don't even know if she told me how fast I was going. Then, before I knew it, she told me to sign this paper and I was off. The entire ride to work I was in a daze.

So, I don't even know how fast I was going, it was Saturday morning, I wasn't in a rush and like I said, "I didn't feel like I was speeding", but that doesn't mean crap in a court of law I know, but i do remember a car passing me on the right and he didn't get pulled over.

For personal reasons, I need my driving record somewhat clean. So if it's worth it, I will get a lawyer and see what they say. If it's not worth it, i'll pay the fine.
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what does it say on the ticket how fast you were going? If you were in a daze and not even able to speak with a officer when pulled over how do you know you were not speeding? Sounds like you are giving us complete BS and feel like an idiot for getting caught.
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what does it say on the ticket how fast you were going? If you were in a daze and not even able to speak with a officer when pulled over how do you know you were not speeding? Sounds like you are giving us complete BS and feel like an idiot for getting caught.
Where on the ticket does it tell you how fast you're going?
All I see is,
- Description of offences = Speed in municipality
- Section = 146 (1)
- Ticket Amount $196

No where on the ticket does it say how fast I was going?

Yup, you caught me. I'm feeding you a bunch of BS. I'm definitely an idiot. Sorry for wasting your time.
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You should have the posted limit right beside the section number.

$196 is the 20-40 over range ins't it?
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Not being aware of your speed indicates driving without due care and attention, something they frown upon.

I once tried bullshitting my way out of a ticket by claiming I didn't know the speed I was going because the speedometer only displays MPH (69 Beetle) and I wasn't sure how to convert to KPH. He saw right through that and said: "You should know how to operate a vehicle before driving it" or something to that effect. I only received a warning at least.
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When I was pulled over, I was taken a back. I guess I was in a little bit of a shock. I didn't say one word to the officer. I gave her the license and insurance, and I don't even really remember what she told me.

I do remember her saying I need to slow down, but I don't even know if she told me how fast I was going. Then, before I knew it, she told me to sign this paper and I was off. The entire ride to work I was in a daze.
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Sounds like someone so "Dazed and confused" shouldn't be on the road.

People keep throwing this "Just fight it, what do you have to lose", or that old bullshit post about "fight every ticket to fuck over the court system".

Well let me show you how that is going to end up working out for you if you clowns keep up that ridiculous attitude:

B.C. moves to eliminate court trials for traffic violations

Keep giving bullshit advice, and keep fighting tickets that you deserve and the government will just take that right away from you.

It's like having a child that doesn't listen, you just start taking shit away from them until they start to listen. Not to mention I am sick of the cost for fighting a ticket being only $25. The government needs to make this $100 or $200 so people with bullshit reasons like "I don't want this on my record" not only get laughed at by the judge, but also get a solid ass reaming so they learn from it. Also this would help pay for all the extra judges and shit they would need to power through all the cases and catch up.
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The government needs to make this $100 or $200 so people with bullshit reasons like "I don't want this on my record" not only get laughed at by the judge, but also get a solid ass reaming so they learn from it.
Easy fix, start listing dispute failures on their record as well.
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I just got a speeding ticket today... FML

$196 fine amount.. On marine drive.. So choked, I didn't even think I was speeding, I was going at a nice leisurely pace, but alas.

Has anyone fought a ticket before?

I want to get a lawyer because I don't want the points on my license.

Can someone recommend a lawyer? And do you know how much it would cost?

I do not want to fight the ticket myself.

Thanks

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I found two lawyers that deal with defending tickets (off google) and i'll update the thread if anyone is curious once I find out more information.

I'm worried about my record long term and the ICBC premiums if you get too many points on your license.

You dispute it, hope the cop doesn't show up. If he does then say you're sorry, give a sob story, apologize, and ask for a discount.

If he doesn't show up you're off the hook.

The traffic violation stays on ICBC records for 4 or 5 years one of the two. So not "forever".

Get over it, move on and learn from the situation. Most of us have all been there.
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You dispute it, hope the cop doesn't show up. If he does then say you're sorry, give a sob story, apologize, and ask for a discount.
See this is what I mean, why would the court give a discont for this, you wasted their time. I wish the court would just punish you for thinking your a special little snowflake and force you to pay more to cover all wasted resources on you.
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