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10-06-2017, 05:21 AM
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10-06-2017, 07:44 PM
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Dumb question to start my post off:
How exactly is "Sikh" supposed to be pronounced? Is it "Sick"? or "Seek"? or something else? And is the word pronounced the same in English and in Hindi / Punjabi?
Secondly, I am not at all surprised by the poll results here: Three in 10 Canadians wouldn't vote for a visibly Sikh national leader: poll
I am also not surprised to see that Quebec is the most reluctant province to vote for a visibly Sikh national leader. And I'd bet that if we exclude Montreal from the rest of Quebec, the percentage for the rest of Quebec would drop lower still.
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10-06-2017, 08:00 PM
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I've always heard/said "seek".
IMO, those polls are the beginning of a sure win strategy.
I think we'll be seeing a lot more of these types of data moving towards the campaign.
Couple that with the fact that people will be singing a different tune come election time and the deficit by JT is even more massive
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10-06-2017, 08:15 PM
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Though I know this is not a poll that could be taken with any accuracy, nor do I think we live in a society capable of asking it, but I'd be interested to know the honest number of Canadians who would vote for him solely because of his race or religion.
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10-07-2017, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by welfare  Though I know this is not a poll that could be taken with any accuracy, nor do I think we live in a society capable of asking it, but I'd be interested to know the honest number of Canadians who would vote for him solely because of his race or religion. | If he was a conservative he would not get the broad support he gets from the South Asian community like he does. The Sikh religion is the most progressive religion and the NDP is a progressive party with many Sikh believes lining up with NDP policies. Just like many Christian believes line up with conservative policies.
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10-07-2017, 07:48 PM
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Valid points.
TBH, I just worry a lot about racial divides in this country. There is potential here for severe tensions.
Hell, we're nowhere near resolving a true freehold of this land even
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10-08-2017, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by welfare I've always heard/said "seek".
| It's pronounced sick. The word means learn.
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10-08-2017, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp To be honest who ever is in power next election is going to have to clean up after Trudeau's mess. Unless of course Trudeau won again then well more spending! | Quote: |
The Paris-based economic think tank now expects the Canadian economy to grow by 3.2 per cent this year, outperforming every other country in the G7 group of advanced economies (i.e. France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the U.K., and the U.S.).
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I can completely understand a dislike for Trudeau, but at least know why you dislike him, and if its actually real or not.
Here's an info graph of Canada's deficits before Trudeau. Looks like its just par for the course at worst. Canada's deficits and surpluses, 1963 to 2015 - CBC News - Latest Canada, World, Entertainment and Business News
On the topic of Mr. Singh, its exciting to see some more young blood in politics. I think we will see more true connection with the middle class.
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10-08-2017, 10:04 AM
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That is a swank suit. Interested to see what he can do.
His name is awesome if he drives a Jag though. Yo hey Jag meet at Jagmeet's!
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10-08-2017, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by westopher | Huh. I seem to recall a promise of a 9.5b$ deficit. Guess promises don't matter as long as it follows the trend
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10-08-2017, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ZN6 That is a swank suit. Interested to see what he can do.
His name is awesome if he drives a Jag though. Yo hey Jag meet at Jagmeet's! | He is a hipster and rides a bike. Has multiple bike's.
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10-08-2017, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by welfare Huh. I seem to recall a promise of a 9.5b$ deficit. Guess promises don't matter as long as it follows the trend | Yeah politicians have a long line of doing exactly as they say they will.
Regardless if the spending is actually helping grow the economy the deficit is money well spent, wether it matches original projections or not.
We could just pull a bunch of money out of schools and healthcare and celebrate a surplus like the provincial libs did.
I'd love an alternative to Trudeau, however in the election it was Harper, who's government was part of the fastest fall of the loonie in my life time, or mulcair, who was one of the most uncharismatic leaders I have seen. Trudeau is doing just fine, however, lets hope for an actual change a couple years from now led by Singh. I welcome it.
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10-08-2017, 03:48 PM
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All governments will spend. If the cons won, the would've also spent to get out of recession.
The difference is how they make up for the spending. The left will raise your taxes and the right will cut spending in other areas. The pendulum swings left and right all the time. When the right cuts all it can and starts cutting into things people care about, it's time for a left leaning government. When the left raises taxes enough and people get tired of it, they'll vote right.
You can see it now. The libs spent 3x what they promised and they're trying to make up or it by increasing taxes for small business owners. If this gets through, it wouldn't surprise me if they start taxing all home sales next.
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10-08-2017, 09:49 PM
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10-08-2017, 10:35 PM
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10-08-2017, 11:28 PM
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10-09-2017, 05:19 AM
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| Policy | Jagmeet Singh For Leader
$15/hour minimum wage
Universal basic income
Increase in capital gains tax
Sorry, not my cup of tea. I may have voted for him when I was young and lazy but not now.
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10-09-2017, 08:12 AM
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#43 | | reads most threads with his pants around his ankles, especially in the Forced Induction forum.
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Originally Posted by !LittleDragon All governments will spend. If the cons won, the would've also spent to get out of recession.
The difference is how they make up for the spending. The left will raise your taxes and the right will cut spending in other areas. The pendulum swings left and right all the time. When the right cuts all it can and starts cutting into things people care about, it's time for a left leaning government. When the left raises taxes enough and people get tired of it, they'll vote right.
You can see it now. The libs spent 3x what they promised and they're trying to make up or it by increasing taxes for small business owners. If this gets through, it wouldn't surprise me if they start taxing all home sales next. | That's the issue I have. First you know you are going to way way way more than what you promise. Which is already a lie to get people to vote for you (all gov do it but to be this out of balance......) Second instead of trying to control your out of hand spending and giving money away for free you try to tax the very people you said you want to help. Basically you backstab the very people who voted you.
Money have to come from somewhere. You can either increase tax, reduce service or attract investors. Is funny when I ask people who voted to JT for for increasing social service where the money is coming from and most of them doesn't have an answer. Is like they think money grow on trees.
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10-09-2017, 12:55 PM
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I'll answer. Its taxes.
I'll vote for whoever increases my taxes (within reason) if it means a healthier, happier, more well educated population.
Money isn't what fucks up my day. Its an unhappy, under employed population who is desperate to survive.
Look at america. The class separation is a huge cause of violence and civil unrest, and its a fucking shit place to live because of it. You've got lower taxes but at the cost of the anxiety that comes with random violent crime.
Taxation isn't backstabbing. Its a responsibility of being a part of a civilized society. There is a proven connection between countries with higher quality of life and higher taxation.
We are on a car forum. We literally have tens (some hundreds) of thousands of dollars of TOYS. We are doing fine, its time to calm down about acting as if increasing out taxes $100 a month is going to be the difference between having a lambo next year or being unable to eat our next meal.
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10-09-2017, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by !LittleDragon Policy | Jagmeet Singh For Leader
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Universal basic income
Increase in capital gains tax
Sorry, not my cup of tea. I may have voted for him when I was young and lazy but not now. | I hate that capital gains tax. That's a tax on entrepreneurship.
I'm not sure why governments are not focussed on doing the following:
- Lowering taxes for small businesses (where revenue < $X )
- eliminating payroll tax for the middle class.
This pretty much injects money to the middle class. Again, a strong middle class = strong country.
We also have a lot of rich foreigners investing in residential real estate here - which makes the middle class struggle to afford housing. We have to make money out of the residential real estate investors from overseas. The problem is, if we do such thing (tax the fuck out of residential real estate owned by foreign entities, the real estate industry in the major cities take a hit). Is that worth the sacrifice ?
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10-09-2017, 04:09 PM
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Don't foreign investors already pay more taxes than the average person?
If rich guy buys a $5,000,000 house that he doesn't live in, isn't he paying more property tax than someone in a $1,000,000 house? They also don't use any services that property taxes pay for.
If they decide to come live here for a few months and they decide to buy an Aventador for the summer. Taxes on a $600k car are more than what the average person earns. From one purchase...
Personally, I like the idea of scrapping everything but consumption taxes like sales tax. No more income tax, it's such a headache every year. If you can afford to spend more then you'll pay more taxes but that's probably too radical for most people.
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10-09-2017, 04:21 PM
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Good plan.
Then we can get rid of roads, healthcare, school and running water while we are at it. Unless you are planning on a 50-60% sales tax.
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10-09-2017, 04:33 PM
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Tax evasion would be insane.
Consumption taxes are also generally “regressive” in that they disproportionately affect the poorest moreso than the wealthiest. Hello poverty through the roof.
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10-09-2017, 04:34 PM
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Appeal to the extreme... but 50% isn't that bad. We pay about that much already if you add up all the taxes we pay now. Except we would have a choice. Don't want to pay so much tax, don't spend so much. You can try to hoard all your money but you can't really avoid spending.
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10-09-2017, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by !LittleDragon Don't foreign investors already pay more taxes than the average person?
If rich guy buys a $5,000,000 house that he doesn't live in, isn't he paying more property tax than someone in a $1,000,000 house? They also don't use any services that property taxes pay for.
| It's not about fairness, it's about extracting as much money for people willing to pay. In this case, since there is demand for residential real estate, the government should extract as much money as possible.
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