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Old 01-06-2018, 03:17 AM   #1
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Anyone take advantage of the government EV discounts before?

Long story short, I'm looking to buy a new car for my parents. Their 2004 Mazda 6 is a pos. Transmission keeps throwing codes, airbag sensor broke and the part is no longer produced, needs new brakes, headliner is peeling, etc..

Currently looking at the Hyundai Ioniq plug in hybrid. From my research, the BC CEV program will give me $2500 and the Scrap it program is for full electric.

The full electric Ioniq will give me a bigger discount but I plan to take the car back after 5 years when they're too old to drive and use it as my daily. I do a lot of long road trips so a full electric won't do it for me. Driving a hybrid will be my penance for my current 5.0 Genesis... lol

Any other government incentives I don't know about? If there isn't much, I may as well just lease them an Accent...
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I've taken advantage of the full CEV for BC $5000.00 twice. I also took advantage of the, then, $6000.00, Scrap it, as well. It was used to get rid of a van that was probably worth no more than 500 bucks. Leaking oil, CEL, dying transmission, etc. Combined with the CEV for BC and a further discount at the dealership, I got $14,000.00 off the MSRP for a full electric vehicle. I've been driving EV cars for three years now. That HOV pass, no gas, no oil changes, lots of torque, etc. makes up for the range issues.

There are other options on the market besides full electric. Electric vehicles with a range extender (boost engine). Technically, not a hybrid. Chevy Volt, not Bolt, for example.......... or the BMW i3, which uses a gas powered mini engine that charges the battery when needed to extend the range. They get the full $5000.00

https://www.cevforbc.ca/sites/defaul...2017_12_12.pdf

The scrap it program for 2018 will start up on the 15th of January. Last year, it started out at $3000.00 for a vehicle, but jumped to twice that amount near the end of the year. I jumped at the opportunity before they ran out of funds. Just got in before the allotted grants were used up.

I'm waiting to see what the 2018 Nissan Leaf has to offer. People have put deposits down on them, but I want to actually drive one first. The range on full electrics are getting better all the time. Elon's Model 3 is great and all, but the rest of the manufacturers are catching up.

The 2018 Leaf will get around 125 mile range, but in 2019, it'll be increased to 225 mile range on a single charge.

https://jalopnik.com/long-range-niss...les-1821768212

The beauty with the Leaf is that Nissan has a large network of charging stations and have partnerships with other networks across NA.

If anyone is interested in getting a fully electric car, get one with a quick charge port. My iMiEV, has both level 2 and a quick charge port. I go to the quick charge station at Hasting Park and get 80% charge in 20 minutes (for free until the City of Vancouver decides to charge). I also have a 240 volt, level 2 charging station installed at home.

Sadly, my electric is in storage. I don't have snows on them, so driving the winter beater for now (transferred insurance over). Besides, going to trade her in, along with my other ICE (Internal Combustion Engine) cars for something better......... hurry up, Elon. Better yet, hurry up CAD, so I can afford a Model X, lol.
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saw on the ioniq in-person yesterday, yuck
but an affordable Tesla in the next few years still seems like a pipe dream
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The practical side of me says wait for the Model 3. The other side says, fuck it, you only die once............ go for the Model S.

I'll probably settle for the Leaf until the Model 3 becomes available in five years, lol.

It's really a shame Honda doesn't produce anything worthwhile in the electric platform.

However................. https://www.acura.com/rlx
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The practical side of me says wait for the Model 3. The other side says, fuck it, you only die once............ go for the Model S.

I'll probably settle for the Leaf until the Model 3 becomes available in five years, lol.

It's really a shame Honda doesn't produce anything worthwhile in the electric platform.

However................. https://www.acura.com/rlx
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The practical side of me says wait for the Model 3. The other side says, fuck it, you only die once............ go for the Model S.

I'll probably settle for the Leaf until the Model 3 becomes available in five years, lol.
do the Leafs (NHL spelling) have batteries that degrade very fast? I understand there's a new model with sig better range but their resale values are atrocious

here's a 2 year old 160 km range that helped you take a massive deprecation hit even sans govt rebates

https://vancouver.craigslist.ca/nvn/...421615774.html
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Resale value is pretty bad and that's one of the negatives, but I went into it fully aware of that fact. Most electric vehicles have an 8 year battery warranty, but like anything else, shit happens. When I take the vehicles in for their yearly checkups, I make sure to ask for a battery condition printout. About seven pages full of data. Voltage reading on each cell and so far, all are well within acceptable levels. I'm pretty sold on electric cars. I'm not the type to sit back and see what others do.......... I'm a pioneer/risk taker, gulolol.

When I'm at charging stations and meet other electric car owners, it's like a brotherhood (of nerds). Anyway, to each their own..........

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Hmmm... damn, looks like all I can get is $2500 off. That's not worth it for me to get any kind of hybrid/electric vehicle.

When I initially tossed around the idea, I was thinking I can get $12k off a plug in hybrid. That would bring it down to around the price of an Elantra. With only $2500 off, I may as well just get the Elantra. I'm not spending $40k just so they can drive 5000km per year.
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The honda clarity also qualifies for 5k..
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MG is into cars so I’m sure he can get used to it pretty easy etc. but for some older people, parents etc. you probably want to give EV’s a really good test drive before buying

I had a family friends model S for a week and man it feels fucking weirddddd coming from a regular combustion vehicle. My friends who I picked up had never been in one before and all felt slight motion sickness, although I was probably booting it around pretty good lol
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One foot driving takes getting used to. You set brake regeneration on max and you can, on some vehicles, let it come to a complete stop without touching the brake pedal. On a BMW i3, the brake lights come on even though you don't touch the brake pedal - a good thing. On mine, the brake lights only come on when you step on the brake pedal. I can see me getting rear ended one day.

The one other thing that's dangerous is the vehicle's quiet operation. Old people are the worst. They can't hear well to begin with. This one old guy turned and walked right into my car. He hit me, not the other way around, lol. Some electric vehicles have a built-in noise thing. I have one on mine, but pedestrians can barely hear it. I'm going to rig up an exhaust sound bite of an old school muscle car on mine, lol.

Nerdy, dweeby car that sounds like a 68 Mustang.


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Looks like most PHEV get $2500 and BEV get $5000
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Now more players entered the EV games, who is taking advantage?

Nissan Leaf
Hyundai Ionic
Hyundai Kona Electric
Kia e-Niro
Tesla Model 3 mid range
VW eGolf
BMW i3

I am leaning toward the leaf as it seems to be the best bang for the buck.
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I took advantage of the $5000 discount when I bought my Tesla Model 3 Long Range. It was very easy as it was taken care of at the dealership. The scrap it program didn't work for me though as my old car was worth more than what I would have been given for it. Overall, it was a great decision to go full electric and I would have a very hard time going back to gas. Yes, it's more money upfront than an ICE vehicle but not having to pay for gas helps to offset the cost quite a lot.
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