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I'm loving reading through a bunch of comments on a web forum regarding gender pay equality when the web forum is 95% guys. |
Yup, like when the topic of abortion came up years ago on RS. How the hell can you even make assumptions? The woman is left holding the bag (poor analogy), but I was appalled by some of the comments in that thread. It's hard to comment properly unless you've walked a mile in the other person's shoes. |
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Personal story: My wife is a Project Manager for her company, she's been there 10 years. Couple years ago there was enough work to split her position into two, hired a new guy, same title. Found out he was hired at exactly the same wage she was making after 10 years of working up the chain. He came from a different industry, He has no more education and less applicable work experience He has to learn all of my wife's company's processes and line of work. Same wage. That's fair and equal? |
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generally speaking, a company has to pay more for an external hire vs promoting within to entice ppl but that's comparing apples/apples + oj/oj |
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Even within my company the new hires doing the same thing I am doing their starting wage is much higher than what I was paid at first. |
Yup. New service advisors coming in, no experience, are making the same as the ones who been SA for over ten years (men) where I'm at. Seems crazy, but meh, not my business |
And the government has been trying for decades to "deal" with this. In '01 they set up a whole commission. Pissed away a bunch of money on research. After three years, they figured it's pretty much impossible to compare apples to oranges in the job market. Nevermind factoring in supply and demand. Honestly, I think they found with all their research, that there wasn't much difference at all in wages when breaking it down to an apples to apples comparison. What I figure anyways. Regardless, it's been tried, and failed, for a long time. Like I said before. Pandering for votes. So obvious, given the timing, IMO |
The most significant thing that governments can do to reduce the pay gap is to invest in childcare. It really should be treated as an extension of the current K-12 education system. Lots of high earning women are pretty much left with little choice but to take a hit to their careers with young children at home. Daycares are expensive and not readily available in some certain parts of country, like urban centres where the jobs and millennials like to live. Child rearing also happens to coincide during the peak earning years (the mid 30s). When women are forced to reduce their time at work during their peak earning years, this affects their earning potential for a decade if not longer. Some women never recover. We all are better off when women make the same incomes as men. More taxes to pay for social programs. More economic activity. More equitable separations when relationships don't pan out. |
What about the idea that parents need to spend more time with their children? Perhaps there should be a system in place that encourages one or the other parent to stay home with their child longer, instead of rushing back to work. Isn't that something that is constantly brought up with the level of bad kids today: the fact that compared to a generation ago, most parents are too busy working to be involved in raising their kid in their formative years and instilling good values in them. Or you know, maybe the government shouldn't force it one way or the other thru taxing and benefits, and let the parents decide and support everyone universally. |
Treat people universally? Regardless of race or gender? Why you racist sexist pig. |
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The government should either support daycare more, or give parents more in direct benefits to replace the lost income of the stay-at-home parent. Full EI for 2-3 years with perhaps an employer-funded top-up, which would be funded through corporate tax breaks. |
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