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Traum 02-27-2018 12:55 PM

2018 Federal Budget
 
Early reports seem to indicate that this is a free-spending deficit budget, with more of JT's trademark gender equality stuff. I think the new 5 weeks leave for new fathers will benefit at least a few of RSers, but it remains to be seen how that would get implemented at the real workplace level, and when exactly it's go into effect.

Hopefully we can keep some discussions in this thread to see how the changes will affect us.

Jmac 02-27-2018 03:40 PM

Weren't we only supposed to run a deficit for the first 2 years?

RRxtar 02-27-2018 04:20 PM

Let me guess. Increased taxes on business's and high income earners. Handouts for 'equality'. No benefit to middle class. Middle class now identified as those earning 45-50k/year household income with 50+ being dirty rich thieves.



edit: everythingwentnotasbadasexpected.jpg Im glad to see a reasonably 'boring' budget for a change.

Mr.HappySilp 02-27-2018 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8890777)
Weren't we only supposed to run a deficit for the first 2 years?

Now that's a joke lol. I am surprise the deficit isn't as big as it is.

belka 02-27-2018 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8890777)
Weren't we only supposed to run a deficit for the first 2 years?

https://i.imgur.com/Is6zZSe.gif

RRxtar 02-27-2018 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8890777)
Weren't we only supposed to run a deficit for the first 2 years?

and the $10b a year deficit was supposed to go directly to infrastructure construction projects.

BRB 3 years later no money has been put to infrastructure projects and the deficit is twice what they promised.

GS8 02-27-2018 07:03 PM

I wouldn't really worry because...




hchang 02-27-2018 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by belka (Post 8890810)

"Here comes debt boi!!!!!!!"

Hopefully the nation will see how much we've fucked up putting a hipster in power and will go back to the Conservatives next time.

Badhobz 02-27-2018 08:47 PM

Could be worse
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2372562/im...R-facebook.jpg

Traum 02-27-2018 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by hchang (Post 8890848)
Hopefully the nation will see how much we've fucked up putting a hipster in power and will go back to the Conservatives next time.

The Cons under Scheer is quite possibly just as bad as JT. The idiot (Scheer) has thus far appeared to be Harper lite in quite a few ways, including his recent pledge that the Cons will recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital if the he/Cons are elected.

Canada is not World Police, and we are not US lite either. Things would have been perfectly fine if you just let the Israel gong show carry on. FailFish

welfare 02-27-2018 09:46 PM

Still better than prime minister Zoolander

DragonChi 02-28-2018 12:25 AM

Really?

Under Harper, we saw losses in university funding and science, a drop in economy, increased funding in prison systems that don't work. How is it better?

You haven't even got proof that this new budget won't work.

belka 02-28-2018 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DragonChi (Post 8890870)
Really?

Under Harper, we saw losses in university funding and science, a drop in economy, increased funding in prison systems that don't work. How is it better?

The Cons and Libs are horrible in their own way, it's just right now we have a hipster child Prime Minister - a peter pan in charge of a country. We need a leader who is a in the middle of a Trump and Trudeau, so far none of the major 4 (Bloq don't care) parties in Canada have a leader who has the balls to lead this country.

danned 02-28-2018 10:16 PM

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/3f/b6/27/3...in-trudeau.jpg

68style 02-28-2018 10:49 PM

Is anyone else tired of literally every form of social media (bulletin board / facebook / whatever else) just being a sewage treatment plant of biased images and predatory reporting? I feel like my eyes are in permanent eyeroll these days, everyone is so full of shit and nobody thinks their shit stinks.

welfare 02-28-2018 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DragonChi (Post 8890870)
Really?

Under Harper, we saw losses in university funding and science, a drop in economy, increased funding in prison systems that don't work. How is it better?

You haven't even got proof that this new budget won't work.

If you compare Canada to the other g7 countries, under the Harper government, we had the strongest economic growth and job creation since the recession.

And what is your definition of "work"? Look at the deficit that this moron is running up. With no intention (anymore) of returning it to even a reasonable level.

And sure, this budget isn't (as much) of a shit kicking to businesses as people thought it'd be, but it does absolutely nothing to curtail the appeal of the US tax reform.

GS8 02-28-2018 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8891074)
Is anyone else tired of literally every form of social media (bulletin board / facebook / whatever else) just being a sewage treatment plant of biased images and predatory reporting? I feel like my eyes are in permanent eyeroll these days, everyone is so full of shit and nobody thinks their shit stinks.

Unfortunately, social media is the cancer on the body of the Internet. Because everything is instant on these platforms, the cancer spreads instantly. Caused by mouth breathers who graduated from the school of 'full time mommy' and 'retired doormat cleaner'.

Manic! 03-01-2018 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8891078)
If you compare Canada to the other g7 countries, under the Harper government, we had the strongest economic growth and job creation since the recession.

And what is your definition of "work"? Look at the deficit that this moron is running up. With no intention (anymore) of returning it to even a reasonable level.

And sure, this budget isn't (as much) of a shit kicking to businesses as people thought it'd be, but it does absolutely nothing to curtail the appeal of the US tax reform.

And he still ran a deficit.

DragonChi 03-01-2018 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8891078)
If you compare Canada to the other g7 countries, under the Harper government, we had the strongest economic growth and job creation since the recession.

And what is your definition of "work"? Look at the deficit that this moron is running up. With no intention (anymore) of returning it to even a reasonable level.

And sure, this budget isn't (as much) of a shit kicking to businesses as people thought it'd be, but it does absolutely nothing to curtail the appeal of the US tax reform.

According to my comparison of interest rates globally, no, we did not have any economic growth since 2008. Using the countries interest rates as an indicator of economic health.
Canadian Economic Observer: Historical Statistical Supplement: Table 7.1 — Interest rates and exchange rates
https://www.reuters.com/article/glob...GLOBAL20081030

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/spin...e-g7-1.3178235
Although, the previous article does say that Canada did have the highest economic growth in 2008, 2009. Using International Monetary Fund.

My definition of working prisons and criminal reforms are that of the Netherlands. Compared to the US where our system is modeled after.

Can you elaborate on that last point?

The last straw for me was cutting off the Census and government funded studies if it didn't align with exploitation of resources.

In my view it was essentially navigating a country without a compass. Driving without a speedometer or changing gears without a tachometer.

Our current PM could dress up as a fairy in a tutu and play pretend with his kids for all I care, and make that a meme. But if he and his cabinet implement legislation for a stronger Canada in terms of; unity, economy, environment, equal opportunity, access to health care, independence from foreign interests, then I could care less what he does.

welfare 03-01-2018 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8891087)
And he still ran a deficit.

He also left the liberals with a $2b surplus.
And this was after the biggest recession the world has seen since the great depression. What's Trudeau's excuse for running the deficit sky high?


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Originally Posted by DragonChi (Post 8891091)
According to my comparison of interest rates globally, no, we did not have any economic growth since 2008. Using the countries interest rates as an indicator of economic health.
Canadian Economic Observer: Historical Statistical Supplement: Table 7.1 — Interest rates and exchange rates
https://www.reuters.com/article/glob...GLOBAL20081030

Spin Cycle: Does Canada's economic performance really top the G7? - Politics - CBC News
Although, the previous article does say that Canada did have the highest economic growth in 2008, 2009. Using International Monetary Fund.

FactsCan | Stephen Harper: strongest economic growth

Quote:

Our current PM could dress up as a fairy in a tutu and play pretend with his kids for all I care, and make that a meme. But if he and his cabinet implement legislation for a stronger Canada in terms of; unity, economy, environment, equal opportunity, access to health care, independence from foreign interests, then I could care less what he does.
Fair enough. I don't think someone's personal view of how the PM conducts himself should be much of a determining factor either. I don't think there's any place in politics for that nonsense. I care about fiscal responsibility. And social welfare.

What I don't care for is a government that favors individuals based on race or gender.
That's not equality. That's reckless and destructive.
It doesn't create unity or equal opportunity. It creates division at an attempt for equal outcome, not opportunity, IMO

DragonChi 03-01-2018 08:04 AM

What's your view on this budget that sees an emphasis on women in the work place and closing the pay gap?

I'm hoping that in terms of administration that's OK, but I have yet to see women in construction be as productive as men. Possibly that's because it is rare to see women on site. I'm looking forward to that sweet sweet paternity leave though. :D

ssjGoku69 03-01-2018 08:43 AM

Pls change your nightmare avatar.


I don't think the conservatives don't have a front runner that compete with the celebrity status of Trudeau for the next election, so we may have JT for an 8 year term

Mr.HappySilp 03-01-2018 08:55 AM

^^ could be a minority gov for JT for next election.

freakshow 03-01-2018 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DragonChi (Post 8891103)
What's your view on this budget that sees an emphasis on women in the work place and closing the pay gap?

I'm all for closing the pay gap. My wife has chosen to work part time so she can spend more time with our son, and I'm pretty excited that she will get paid a full salary so that she can be equal to a man who has chosen to 2-3x as much

DragonChi 03-01-2018 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ssjGoku69 (Post 8891111)
Pls change your nightmare avatar.

Maybe in a week

Quote:

Originally Posted by freakshow (Post 8891116)
I'm all for closing the pay gap. My wife has chosen to work part time so she can spend more time with our son, and I'm pretty excited that she will get paid a full salary so that she can be equal to a man who has chosen to 2-3x as much

Oh god, is that how it's really going to work? I want to be a woman if that's how it's going to be. :lol


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