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DragonChi 04-13-2018 03:28 PM

Few people do have that kind of willpower. For some, it would be the equivalent of resisting any alcohol for life. I really doubt any of us on here has never had a drink.

SkinnyPupp 04-13-2018 03:42 PM

I think it's kind of funny that people complain when politicians switch their stance to meet their own... shouldn't you be happy they are supporting your politics now? LUL

Whatever their intentions are (and they are usually self serving), the end result is progress

welfare 04-13-2018 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8898063)
Clearly, if you had enough willpower you would not have done drugs in the first place.

:mamoru:

Manic! 04-14-2018 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8898105)
I think it's kind of funny that people complain when politicians switch their stance to meet their own... shouldn't you be happy they are supporting your politics now? LUL

Whatever their intentions are (and they are usually self serving), the end result is progress

People who actually fought to legalize weed many who went to jail are getting screwed over while the people who put them into jail are now getting rich.
I just think it's ridiculous.

Mr.Money 04-14-2018 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8898185)
People who actually fought to legalize weed many who went to jail are getting screwed over while the people who put them into jail are now getting rich.
I just think it's ridiculous.



Yeah that is fucked up,than again most these guys caught dealing the devils lettuce don't care who their selling to,long as they got money....picture a bunch of retarded high schoolers smoking out their storage shed every friday till one of their parents catches them. EleGiggle

Now the government is involved and it making it the most strictest thing possible to be out of hands of young people when its legalized

Ludepower 04-14-2018 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8897797)
The brain develops up to the age of about 25. The highest demographic of pot smokers is 18-25. Schizophrenia is most commonly triggered from 20-30 yrs old. Not infants.
1% of the general population are diagnosed. A pretty big number if you think about it

Medical and society benefits still outweigh the negatives
Compared to alcohol, cigarettes, prescription drugs etc. Weed is a god send.

Legalization is coming. Get off your rocking chair and tackle this by the horns.

quasi 04-14-2018 08:51 AM

I believe I'm one of the older posters here, not MG1 old but older :). I hadn't smoked weed in probably 20+ years, never really wanted to either.

The last couple years I've had a lot of health issues, I live with nerve pain daily and the medication I take to help with that reduces it but it's still there and it is never going away. After trying so many medications and being frustrated for so long I figured why not give marijuana a chance? My biggest concern was the smell, I didn't want to be smoking it in my house or my garage and have my 12 year old smelling it. It's hard to preach don't do drugs if you're smoking it around them.

I had a buddy introduce me to pens and oil. I've been smoking it either after work or before bed pretty much daily for the last bunch of months and it's helped me a lot, the odor dissipates quickly can do it in the house.

My point is if I can change my stance on marijuana I'd be a hypocrite to ridicule a politician for doing the same thing.

Manic! 04-14-2018 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by quasi (Post 8898214)
I believe I'm one of the older posters here, not MG1 old but older :). I hadn't smoked weed in probably 20+ years, never really wanted to either.

The last couple years I've had a lot of health issues, I live with nerve pain daily and the medication I take to help with that reduces it but it's still there and it is never going away. After trying so many medications and being frustrated for so long I figured why not give marijuana a chance? My biggest concern was the smell, I didn't want to be smoking it in my house or my garage and have my 12 year old smelling it. It's hard to preach don't do drugs if you're smoking it around them.

I had a buddy introduce me to pens and oil. I've been smoking it either after work or before bed pretty much daily for the last bunch of months and it's helped me a lot, the odor dissipates quickly can do it in the house.

My point is if I can change my stance on marijuana I'd be a hypocrite to ridicule a politician for doing the same thing.

Do you think any of these people even smoke weed? They are just in it for the money and could care less about the product.

welfare 04-14-2018 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ludepower (Post 8898210)
Medical and society benefits still outweigh the negatives
Compared to alcohol, cigarettes, prescription drugs etc. Weed is a god send.

Legalization is coming. Get off your rocking chair and tackle this by the horns.

k. i wasn't denying any of that.
and again, i'm not against legalization..with education

Hondaracer 04-14-2018 01:26 PM

While idiots like Marc emery went about their “activism” the completely wrong way, I agree with the sentiment that these sacks of shit put people behind jail and were behind legislation to further criminalize possession etc then once the horizon is bright they switch.

While I associate myself heavily as a conservative type, what gets me is some of these people were using quasi religious reasons as to their stance on the subject. Now you’re switching or being forced into a new stance and just rolling with it? Nice character.

quasi 04-14-2018 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8898217)
Do you think any of these people even smoke weed? They are just in it for the money and could care less about the product.


What's it matter though? You can't change your stance on something unless you're going to partake? Does that mean if you don't drink you should be anti alcohol?

Manic! 04-14-2018 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by quasi (Post 8898246)
What's it matter though? You can't change your stance on something unless you're going to partake? Does that mean if you don't drink you should be anti alcohol?

There changing their stance to make a quick buck not because they believe marijuana should be legalized. If someone offers them more money they would change their stance again. There a bunch of hypocrites.

quasi 04-14-2018 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8898294)
There changing their stance to make a quick buck not because they believe marijuana should be legalized. If someone offers them more money they would change their stance again. There a bunch of hypocrites.

I don't disagree but that's the nature of politics is it not?

I mean look at the definition of politics under the Webster dictionary. Pretty much exactly what's going on here.

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Definition of politics
1 a : the art or science of government
b : the art or science concerned with guiding or influencing governmental policy
c : the art or science concerned with winning and holding control over a government


DragonChi 04-14-2018 10:01 PM

If we were not allowed to change our way of thinking, we would still think the earth is flat.

SkinnyPupp 04-14-2018 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DragonChi (Post 8898315)
If we were not allowed to change our way of thinking, we would still think the earth is flat.

But it is flat.... Are you not woke? :seriously:

DragonChi 04-14-2018 10:27 PM

LUL

mikemhg 04-15-2018 01:48 PM

I don't understand how some people in this thread are not understanding Manic's thought process on this one.

No one is saying that you cannot learn new facts and change your opinion, or come to a different conclusion.

What he's talking about is people like John Boehner, and many of these Republican so called "Christian" pricks who for years promoted this failed war on drugs, and promoted stiffer criminal penalties on folks who I may add are still sitting in jail to this day for marijuana offences (mostly African American). Now suddenly when this industry can feed their corrupt pockets, they suddenly have a change of heart? Well if that's the case, why do we not see people like John Boehner push to have States release criminals who are in jail for drug possession?

You'll never see that from these hypocrites, that's the problem, and that's what Manic is trying to portray here. It's angering and frustrating to those of us who have been following the war on drugs in the United States for decades here. It's blatantly obvious how flawed the system is, and the abundance of incredulous characters who populate it within politics. It's not rocket science.

Manic! 04-15-2018 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8898366)
I don't understand how some people in this thread are not understanding Manic's thought process on this one.

No one is saying that you cannot learn new facts and change your opinion, or come to a different conclusion.

What he's talking about is people like John Boehner, and many of these Republican so called "Christian" pricks who for years promoted this failed war on drugs, and promoted stiffer criminal penalties on folks who I may add are still sitting in jail to this day for marijuana offences (mostly African American). Now suddenly when this industry can feed their corrupt pockets, they suddenly have a change of heart? Well if that's the case, why do we not see people like John Boehner push to have States release criminals who are in jail for drug possession?

You'll never see that from these hypocrites, that's the problem, and that's what Manic is trying to portray here. It's angering and frustrating to those of us who have been following the war on drugs in the United States for decades here. It's blatantly obvious how flawed the system is, and the abundance of incredulous characters who populate it within politics. It's not rocket science.

Thanks that's exactly what I ment.

Tone Loc 04-15-2018 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8898366)
Well if that's the case, why do we not see people like John Boehner push to have States release criminals who are in jail for drug possession?

Because criminals can't vote. At the end of the day that's all these politicians care about.

Zedbra 04-15-2018 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8898366)
I don't understand how some people in this thread are not understanding Manic's thought process on this one.

No one is saying that you cannot learn new facts and change your opinion, or come to a different conclusion.

What he's talking about is people like John Boehner, and many of these Republican so called "Christian" pricks who for years promoted this failed war on drugs, and promoted stiffer criminal penalties on folks who I may add are still sitting in jail to this day for marijuana offences (mostly African American). Now suddenly when this industry can feed their corrupt pockets, they suddenly have a change of heart? Well if that's the case, why do we not see people like John Boehner push to have States release criminals who are in jail for drug possession?

You'll never see that from these hypocrites, that's the problem, and that's what Manic is trying to portray here. It's angering and frustrating to those of us who have been following the war on drugs in the United States for decades here. It's blatantly obvious how flawed the system is, and the abundance of incredulous characters who populate it within politics. It's not rocket science.

So the war on drugs is hypocritical, drug dealers kill each other with guns with 98% being black but black lives matter, but guns and the NRA are bad, yet people want their drugs and thus there are gang bangers with guns but the hypocrites think more laws prevent more criminals. Yeah, we see your point and Manic's clearly. :fullofwin:

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8898063)
Clearly, if you had enough willpower you would not have done drugs in the first place.

Just like people who take the willpower to know their, they're, and there - it's the small things that support the will to lead.

Zedbra 04-15-2018 07:25 PM

3....2....1....

welfare 04-15-2018 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8898366)
I don't understand how some people in this thread are not understanding Manic's thought process on this one.

No one is saying that you cannot learn new facts and change your opinion, or come to a different conclusion.

What he's talking about is people like John Boehner, and many of these Republican so called "Christian" pricks who for years promoted this failed war on drugs, and promoted stiffer criminal penalties on folks who I may add are still sitting in jail to this day for marijuana offences (mostly African American). Now suddenly when this industry can feed their corrupt pockets, they suddenly have a change of heart? Well if that's the case, why do we not see people like John Boehner push to have States release criminals who are in jail for drug possession?

You'll never see that from these hypocrites, that's the problem, and that's what Manic is trying to portray here. It's angering and frustrating to those of us who have been following the war on drugs in the United States for decades here. It's blatantly obvious how flawed the system is, and the abundance of incredulous characters who populate it within politics. It's not rocket science.

Given how passionate you are about the subject, you must be ecstatic that Hillary didn't win. Considering she lobbied so hard to have her husband's 94 crime bill passed.
You remember the one; three strikes. Trying children as young as 13 as adults. Massive grants to states who imposed lengthier sentences. Responsible for the highest rate of incarceration of any president EVER. And so on and so on..

Federal and State Prison PopulationsSoared Under Clinton, Report Finds - latimes


DragonChi 04-15-2018 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Zedbra (Post 8898393)
So the war on drugs is hypocritical, drug dealers kill each other with guns with 98% being black but black lives matter, but guns and the NRA are bad, yet people want their drugs and thus there are gang bangers with guns but the hypocrites think more laws prevent more criminals. Yeah, we see your point and Manic's clearly. :fullofwin:


I would say they're both just as bad, in terms of taking advantage of their community for profit.

:troll:

mikemhg 04-17-2018 01:22 PM

Not even going to play this game with you, I know where you stand on this argument, and I know your prejudices.

It's called socioeconomics. Blacks kill each other, and? Guess what? Whites kill each other "98%" of the time as well. We hurt those closest to us, within our own communities. That's obvious. This whole "blacks kill blacks" argument is ridiculous, and people like yourself continue to perpetuate it. You are practicing willful cognitive dissonance here. You are allowing your own prejudice to cloud your reasoning here.

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Originally Posted by Zedbra (Post 8898393)
So the war on drugs is hypocritical, drug dealers kill each other with guns with 98% being black but black lives matter, but guns and the NRA are bad, yet people want their drugs and thus there are gang bangers with guns but the hypocrites think more laws prevent more criminals. Yeah, we see your point and Manic's clearly. :fullofwin:



Just like people who take the willpower to know their, they're, and there - it's the small things that support the will to lead.


mikemhg 04-17-2018 01:30 PM

I normally ignore your posts, as you're a troll. Oh yes, let's talk about Hilary Clinton again, your common argument.

I am no fan of the Clinton's, I liked many of Bill's policies, his three strikes law was one I hated deeply. It was Clinton's method of reaching his olive branch to the right, by showing that though he's a Democrat, he would be hard on crime.

It was a terrible decision that has ruined hundreds of thousands of lives. Yes, I remember Hillary calling us "Super Predators" as well. Old news. It's irrelevant, she lost. I still stand by the fact that she would've been better than this buffoon.

To her credit, she did run on the stance of continuing Obama's polices of raking back the war on drugs, which may show to me, she changed her stance. Albeit, she never became President, so I will take her word on this. What I do know is your hero decided to do the complete opposite, and appoint Jeff Sessions, someone who I may add just recently informed his prosecutors to pursue the "death penalty" for some drug related offences.

I highly doubt this would be a policy of stance of the Clinton (Hilary) Administration.

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8898401)
Given how passionate you are about the subject, you must be ecstatic that Hillary didn't win. Considering she lobbied so hard to have her husband's 94 crime bill passed.
You remember the one; three strikes. Trying children as young as 13 as adults. Massive grants to states who imposed lengthier sentences. Responsible for the highest rate of incarceration of any president EVER. And so on and so on..

Federal and State Prison PopulationsSoared Under Clinton, Report Finds - latimes

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