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Old 07-05-2018, 12:22 PM   #1
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Has anyone been fined for illegal fog light color?

Only amber or white allowed I believe, but I've seen some yellow and such. Anyone ticketed from that?
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I've been VI'd for it. Successfully had it cancelled after going back and forth with VPD.
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Old 07-05-2018, 12:30 PM   #3
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What did you argue exactly? And what color? And I'm guessing no issues since then?
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Yellow vs Amber, that’s a tough sell man. The only ones I’d call out are the yellow HID that just look green
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lmao sorry, i thought amber was red. like amber alert. mildly colorblind..

But I've seen plenty of red and blue fogs, wondering if those get VI or fined.
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What did you argue exactly? And what color? And I'm guessing no issues since then?
The cop that issued the VI wrote down "DRLs are fog lights" and I was able to argue the fact that the fog lights were being used as DRLs from the factory (1992 MR2) but when he pulled me over, he kept saying that yellow fog lights are illegal, etc. I consider myself lucky that he worded it wrong lol.
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i've been told to not turn on my fog when it's not foggy out. This was in a ISF with yellow tinted fog lights. Just a verbal warning. Never had issues with my LS430 with tinted yellow fog though.

as long as you don't use green, red, blue, etc. Yellow probably won't be much of an issue.

HID fogs are stupid. blindingly useless
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They're LEDs and actually part of my DRLs
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if there stupid fuckin bright i would have a off switch for them for sure..


red or blue is just stupid,That's emergency color lol.
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lmao sorry, i thought amber was red. like amber alert. mildly colorblind..
Fun fact, amber alert was named after a girl named Amber and not the colour.

Somewhat related, Ive had yellowish foglights for over 10 years and never had an issue, I've been through roadblocks and everything but only turn them on in poor conditions.
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lol so far... it seems like none of you have broken any laws regarding fog lamps, contrary to what the officer told you

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(1) A motor vehicle may be equipped with 2 fog lamps, mounted on the front of the vehicle below the headlamps, that are capable of displaying only white or amber light.

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(4) The operator of a vehicle may use fog lamps instead of headlamps when atmospheric conditions make the use of headlamps disadvantageous.

[en. B.C. Reg. 476/98, s. 2.]
Amber... is actually kind of close to orange-yellow. So Selective Yellow is definitely in the range between White and Amber and very close in colour to amber as well. Also, there are numerous vehicles with factory selective yellow fog lamps, such as Lexus IS300, Infinity QX4, lots of older historic vehicles as well, so it would not make sense for a ticket to be issued, as the vehicle was manufacture to abide by federal laws.

Also there is no mention of when NOT allowed to use fog lamps. Doesn't say you aren't allowed to use them on a clear sunny day/night. I believe other provinces/states may have a law prohibiting fog lamp use when it's not foggy, but not here that I can find...


Regarding fog lamp DRLs...
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A motor vehicle may be equipped with daytime running lamps, mounted on the front of the vehicleat a height of not less than 30 cm and not more than 2.11 m, that comply with the requirements of the Motor Vehicle Safety Act (Canada).

[en. B.C. Reg. 476/98, s. 2.]
BC MVAR redirects you to Transport Canada regulations, and so...
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(25) Subsections (26) to (30) apply to passenger cars, multi-purpose passenger vehicles, trucks, buses and three-wheeled vehicles.

(26) Every vehicle shall be equipped with daytime running lamps
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(c) that conform to

(i) sections 5, 6 and 7.3.1 of SAE Standard J2087, except that despite section 6.1.2, if a daytime running lamp is optically combined with a white front position lamp that has a projected luminous lens area of 200 cm2 or less, it may conform to the light intensity distribution values shown in figure 1 when tested in accordance with section 5.1, or

(ii) until September 1, 2020, SAE Standard J583, Front Fog Lamps (September 2016) (SAE Standard J583).

(27) Despite section 6.4 of SAE Standard J2087, the light from a daytime running lamp shall be

(a) if the lamp is optically combined with a parking lamp, white or yellow;

(b) if produced by a turn signal lamp, yellow; and

(c) in all other cases, white.
IMO, from reading back and forth between the provincial and federal laws, BC's "amber" and Canada's "yellow" are referring to the same colour, because BC laws refer to turn signal colour as "amber", and whereas seen above, Transport Canada refers to it as "yellow"
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i got leds for my fogs. dont like the yellow? flick them off and on and they turn white
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