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Most new cars are stupid like this -- you can't see shxt from the center rear view mirror, and you can't see shxt when you turn around to look. It's horrible when you are driving, but at least with (mandatory?) back up cameras, backing up isn't so bad.
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Originally Posted by !Aznboi128
so... if you look back in the new 3 hatch this is what you'll see
Good peripheral vision is highly underrated by vehicle manufacturers. You can’t solve everything with cameras and sensors. In fact, I’d say it’s negligent to overly rely on them.
Good peripheral vision is highly underrated by vehicle manufacturers. You can’t solve everything with cameras and sensors. In fact, I’d say it’s negligent to overly rely on them.
Oh yeah, that's why we have that stupid "BEEP BEEP BEEP" every time you try to change lanes.
Who needs to use peripheral anymore these days......
Just swerve and if the car tells you it's dangerous, then go back into your lane.
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Oh yeah, that's why we have that stupid "BEEP BEEP BEEP" every time you try to change lanes.
Who needs to use peripheral anymore these days......
Just swerve and if the car tells you it's dangerous, then go back into your lane.
i've learned that driving a convertible with top up means driver-side shoulder checks are completely useless
mirrors and radars 'elminates' blind-spots, but it feels like a leap of faith everytime i gotta switch into the outer/passing lane as I'm relying on sensors and optical distortions
If only the 2.5L Turbo from the Mazda6 + AWD on the new Mazda 3. SPEEED3
Being a Mazda I'm sure they would have to do some tuning to make sure it'll be perfect
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Finally, we come to the rear suspension. We were surprised to see the Mazda3 abandon a multi-link rear suspension in favor of a torsion-beam rear end. Torsion beam suspensions are generally considered less capable and refined since it ties both wheels together. Sometimes it's used because it's cheap to develop, or because it's easy to package. Everyone we spoke to at Mazda said that this design wasn't chosen for those reasons, but rather because they were able to make the car ride and handle better. The company found that the design offered more natural reactions to bumps for the passengers inside, and the company was able to really dial in every single part since it was a simpler suspension with fewer variables to worry about. For example, one of Mazda's engineers mentioned that each side of the multi-link suspension had 10 bushings to mess with, and the torsion-beam setup has just one on each side for the trailing arms.
Finally, we come to the rear suspension. We were surprised to see the Mazda3 abandon a multi-link rear suspension in favor of a torsion-beam rear end. Torsion beam suspensions are generally considered less capable and refined since it ties both wheels together. Sometimes it's used because it's cheap to develop, or because it's easy to package. Everyone we spoke to at Mazda said that this design wasn't chosen for those reasons, but rather because they were able to make the car ride and handle better. The company found that the design offered more natural reactions to bumps for the passengers inside, and the company was able to really dial in every single part since it was a simpler suspension with fewer variables to worry about. For example, one of Mazda's engineers mentioned that each side of the multi-link suspension had 10 bushings to mess with, and the torsion-beam setup has just one on each side for the trailing arms.
The engineers weren't lying, but I am still calling them BS on the rear beam axle. It is there because Mazda needed to cut costs, and that is kind of ironic since they are also trying to move up the market a bit. The rest of the car is nothing short of a home run, and you can tell they are pulling out all the stops to make it good. However, they also had to find chances and places to offset the increased costs, and the rear suspension was the thing that got hit.
Fortunately, Mazda is one of the few manufacturers that really knows how to fine tune the suspension settings on a car, and I trust that their expertise here will make the rear beam axle perform well enough for pedestrian / street use. It'll even seem sporty and fun. But make no mistake -- had it been an IRS, the car would have handled better and be even more fun.
The engineers weren't lying, but I am still calling them BS on the rear beam axle. It is there because Mazda needed to cut costs, and that is kind of ironic since they are also trying to move up the market a bit. The rest of the car is nothing short of a home run, and you can tell they are pulling out all the stops to make it good. However, they also had to find chances and places to offset the increased costs, and the rear suspension was the thing that got hit.
Fortunately, Mazda is one of the few manufacturers that really knows how to fine tune the suspension settings on a car, and I trust that their expertise here will make the rear beam axle perform well enough for pedestrian / street use. It'll even seem sporty and fun. But make no mistake -- had it been an IRS, the car would have handled better and be even more fun.
I personally own a cx-3 which has a torsion beam rear. Honestly, it's a lot of fun to drive.
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so the new mazda 3 will first get the skyactiv-G engines, which are the old engines...then later will get the skyactiv-X?
That's what it seems like, the Skyactiv-x isn't ready at launch.
I personally own a cx-3 which has a torsion beam rear. Honestly, it's a lot of fun to drive.
I agree. If there is any mass market auto manufacturer that can deliver on a fun-to-drive FWD car with a rear beam axle, that would be Mazda. (And VW might be a distant second.) Given the (hypothetical) choice, I'd still opt for an IRS. But hey, it is what it is.
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