And if the government would have helped him you would be saying why are they helping he's not even a Canadian citizen. The government should be helping Canadians first.

I think that the missing, but assumed word(s) is that he's under "protection under Canadian law and the Canadian Charte(s)r of Rights and Freedoms" while in Canada

they've been doing a shitty job of that lately...hence the examples i already mentioned twice

Governments only assist passport holders. That's pretty standard. No need to hate on refugees, guy.

What can the Canadian government do really to secure people imprisoned by hostile governments? Send JTF2 after people imprisoned in hostile countries? Withhold lumber exports? Sanction them with the might of our 30million+ market? Even the US couldn't get their guy out of North Korea who ended up dying over there. When you're dealing with certain countries opaque justice systems you can only grease the wheels so much. It's like bargaining in 3rd world countries: if you won't budge on price they won't budge to save face, even though it's mutually beneficial for both to complete the transaction.

Canada: Hey, let our people go!

China: No.

Canada: OK.

Are you talking about the 2 cops who tag teamed an under age Canadian girl?

twice now the case has been ruled as a fabricated story on the girl's part

not a whole lot, but some effort would be nice

i already suggested not having our province-wide money laundering probe halted would be an acceptable start

US couldn't save the guy who stole a propaganda banner (he ended up dying on US soil)...our ex-diplomat hasn't been charged with anything yet

in this case, the guy is left without aid from Ottawa in a hospital (do we even know if he's a citizen of Vietnam?) and supposedly can barely open his eyes...i'm not saying we should send in a military transport and airlift the sucker out ASAP, but they could easily offer ANY assistance, maybe reach out to personnel in the doctors without borders program to check in on him? it's def not an issue of logistics (they're in Bangkok ffs not in Mali or some very remote places)...we're simply turning our backs against him as that was the easiest choice

where did I hate on refugees? i said the balance is a joke if we can't even take care of Canadians/Canadians-to-be

What sort of assistance can the gov't provide at this point? He's in a hospital in Bangkok like you said, which has equivalent 1st world medical facilities if you pay for it. They've already set up a go fund me from what I've heard. Presumably they also have travel medical insurance if they're smart. If the Cdn taxpayer should subsidize every mishap abroad we'll need another line item in the budget.

If I’m abroad there’s no way in hell in relying on the govt to help me if I’m injured or in a siaution like this.

You better be prepared either via travel insurance or have the monetary means to pay for anything that happens otherwise you’re not doing your due diligence imo

I won't even let my ex take my son across the border for a shopping run without travel insurance. Better safe than sorry.

There’s so many ways to buy insurance for travel.

Credit cards supply it.
Many workplaces supply it.
The airline asks you if you want it when purchasing your ticket.
Any insurance place sells it.
Online sites sell it.

If you don’t get it and have a problem too f’n bad. Why does today’s society think everyone else should pay for their lack of foresight and irresponsibility?

FWIW I do not equate this in any way whatsoever with helping refugees out, nobody asked for their city to get bombed or to be persecuted by their own government... you go on vacation as a citizen of a free country that’s your luxury choice, the government doesn’t owe you shit if you hurt yourself/get hurt.

I think twitchy might be expecting some extra-territorial justice be applied :D. In this case, perhaps the RCMP or whatever municipal police force should investigate this brother of his who is speculated as to being behind the attack. There are reports he's gone back to Canada.

That's probably the best thing anyone can do for them right now.

So your saying the Cuban legal system works. So whats the problem?

Yup. They were held until the full investigation was completed. If you look on Global Affairs Canada's website it clearly warns you that if you are accused of a crime in Cuba you will be barred from leaving the country until the investigation/trial is complete.

twitchyzero is just the typical moron who only reads the headline of a news story and then forms his own dumbass narrative.

half of yous didn't read the article...report says they have travel insurance

since when did you have to owe someone something to receive help? do we owe the refugees anything?

if you're about to be beheaded by ISIL, does Canada owe you anything?


global affairs have contingency funds

even if we don't use taxpayer funds, how fucking hard is it to check in on their welfare? even if as the gov't just pretend like you care...instead of 'lol no canadian passport? pound sand'

you guys make it sound like this is a blithering idiot who was flaunting cash/jewlery on a busy street, or he attempted some crazy stunt/playing with fire and desereved it, no the poor fella had acid thrown on him, unprovoked at the scene...regardless of the background story/hearsay right now, to have almost no compassion is rather cold

cute try, that's only been added after a few months after the officers were stuck in Cuba

iwantaskyline, the typical assshat who only jumps to dumbass conclusions

did you miss the thread I created on that case?

yeah i only read the headline, didn't take any of the evidence objectively, also didn't go to school with one of them and will blindly defend them :nyan:

oh and i dont know what lala-land most of RS lives in, you think most day-trippers crossing the US border has coverage?

if they end up hospitalized with a 5 figure bill after being mugged/attacked, too f'n bad on them, right?

i almost forgot the internet is so tough

I think we have a new welfare LUL.

Yes. Canadian government does not pay for out of country medical expenses. If they did why would people buy travel insurance.

https://travel.gc.ca/assistance/emer...o/sick-injured

Bit of a tangent but my first experience with travel insurance, I bought a year's worth, to go into effect the day before starting Katimavik and a day before my first time flying (I flew as a baby, but I don't count that). The start date for that insurance was September 11th, 2001. My September 12th flight ended up cancelled and rescheduled for a week later. Quite a first flight experience: sorry your flight was cancelled because 19 men hijacked 4 planes and flew them into buildings, killing everyone on board and causing the grounding of all flights over North America. I think I still have that travel insurance card with that infamous date on it, which I kept in my wallet for a time, as a conversation piece at parties.

Sounds like they're helping him as much as they can, what has the country he's actually a citizen of been doing so far?

I did before my work provided it... so... ?

Couple times I didn't but I was aware of the fact if anything happened it was on me and if I wasn't going any farther than Seattle I would expect someone to drive my bleeding body to the border and throw me over lol

How terrible of the couple...vacation turned real ugly for the BC couple....sad, sad news

You mean beside doing the investigation like they are? Family feuds gone wrong and expect government handouts. Only in first world country, guy.

If you travel, buy your insurance or have a policy (credit card, etc.).

This is literally not a state matter. Don't know why you would expect the government to step in.

I don't, but other people (including the couple) seem to think the Canadian gov't should be covering it. If anyone it should be the gov't of wherever the guy is a citizen.