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Old 03-11-2019, 06:53 PM   #1
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PSA: renew your insurance before April 1

Hey guys, just wanted to remind you all if your insurance is expiring within 55 days before April 1 to do so as insurance rates are going up. Let’s not give ICBC more money!
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How does that work? You can renew before your insurance is up? What is it up by? 6%?
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Old 03-11-2019, 08:57 PM   #3
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How does that work? You can renew before your insurance is up? What is it up by? 6%?
Yes you can renew your insurance for another year as long as it’s due to expire within 55 days
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i thought it was June?
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I wonder if it's worth it to cancel my insurance (and lose my plates) and to get insurance before April 1 LOOOL
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Old 03-12-2019, 12:58 AM   #6
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I wonder if it's worth it to cancel my insurance (and lose my plates) and to get insurance before April 1 LOOOL
^ hmm $30 dollars for cancellation fee and new plates are $18 (unless u have vanity plate/parks plate then add $100).. so total is $48.. whats the new percentage hike?
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^ hmm $30 dollars for cancellation fee and new plates are $18 (unless u have vanity plate/parks plate then add $100).. so total is $48.. whats the new percentage hike?
If you finance the insurance, there’s is another $15 enrollment fee.

Plus the rates are probably in if you are renewing within 55 days.
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...What is it up by? 6%?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...hike-1.4964102

6.3% Increase April 1st, and more changes in September.
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ICBC asked for and received permission from the BCUC to pre-load the rates into ICBC's system, so when the renewal letters are sent out they will already reflect the increase unfortunately.
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ICBC asked for and received permission from the BCUC to pre-load the rates into ICBC's system, so when the renewal letters are sent out they will already reflect the increase unfortunately.
Thanks for clearing this up.
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I got my renewal letter yesterday. I guess I won't rush to renew
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my broker sent me this:


Your rates will still be effective June and will have June rates in April. In order to prolong the inevitable of the rate increase you will have to cancel the plates and insurance you have before April 1st and have new plates issued. There are fees involved: Cancellation $30, New Plate $18 and the New monthly payment fee $15. There were also two rate increased since your last renewal that will apply regardless.

You have basic insurance with ICBC. You will not save much money by cancelling the plate and basic insurance before April 1st. The rate increase for basic is 6.4% and your current basic insurance is $1117. You will only save about $15-$20 dollars a year.
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After experiencing private insurance in other provinces, I use to be a full fledge a ICBC supporter. Not anymore. I just insured a new to me (2008) vehicle and it’s $2000 a year. That is insane for someone with Roadstar, never a single claim and zero tickets in the last 10 years. My wife and I have 3 cars (Hers, mine and the project). This is an insane amount of money for insurance for good drivers.

How do we boot them the hell out of here?
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Just got my renewal, 08 is350 $2659. 43% discount. This does seem awfully high.
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Just got my renewal, 08 is350 $2659. 43% discount. This does seem awfully high.
I think our rate is absolutely nuts.

My Mini Cooper is around 2400 per year WITH 43%, Roadstar and every discount one can possibly get.

I can't imagine how young people can afford a car anymore. By my calculation, it's roughly 400/mth without discount and on monthly payments. Sure, every car's rate is different but I figure a Mini cooper is average at best.

Speaking of average cars though, I remember talking to my ex-boss about his Ferrari Italia and it was around 4xxx to insure per year. Not sure how much discount or program he's on, but it seems totally out of proportion when that car is worth 10+ times what my Mini cooper is.
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@Hehe, the value of the car only affects the collision premium. Cause that's the one that insures yourself when you fuck up your own car. Otherwise, I believe a majority of the costs goes towards 3rd party and other persons car.
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Wife just got her renew notice.
2007 CRV (43% discount, 2 mil, 300/300, +15km to work, 10+yrs exp) $2050.

~$100 more expensive than last year.
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My 2014 FR-S (43% discount, 2 mil, 300/300, <15 km to work, 10+ years exp) is $1,465.

Living in Whistler seems to save me quite a bit.

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Just got my renewal, 08 is350 $2659. 43% discount. This does seem awfully high.
what the hell......

my 2014 Mercedes E class V8, only $2658 43% discount

1 Dollar cheaper than yours.
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Its with 500/500 deduc as well.
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Pardon me if it's been explained before or is actually available --

Why doesn't ICBC publish openly the geographical rate variance?

About five years ago, a friend and I had identical vehicles, identical licence history, clean records, and identical insurance coverage. His cost: $960. My cost: $1280. We lived within a block of each other but on different sides of a rate boundary according to an AutoPlan broker. He wouldn't divulge any more information.

I remember having a 91 Civic in Sooke costing me $320/year... in Richmond it was $1300/year.

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Pardon me if it's been explained before or is actually available --

Why doesn't ICBC publish openly the geographical rate variance?

About five years ago, a friend and I had identical vehicles, identical licence history, clean records, and identical insurance coverage. His cost: $960. My cost: $1280. We lived within a block of each other but on different sides of a rate boundary according to an AutoPlan broker. He wouldn't divulge any more information.

I remember having a 91 Civic in Sooke costing me $320/year... in Richmond it was $1300/year.
And what would you realistically do with that information?
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And what would you realistically do with that information?
He would obviously move!
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Wife just got her renew notice.
2007 CRV (43% discount, 2 mil, 300/300, +15km to work, 10+yrs exp) $2050.

~$100 more expensive than last year.
In Victoria (Saanich) renewed two weeks ago. 2013 CRV (43%, 2 mil, 300/300, more than 15km to work, 10+ yr household, under insured protection $25 extra) $1424
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After experiencing private insurance in other provinces, I use to be a full fledge a ICBC supporter. Not anymore. I just insured a new to me (2008) vehicle and it’s $2000 a year. That is insane for someone with Roadstar, never a single claim and zero tickets in the last 10 years. My wife and I have 3 cars (Hers, mine and the project). This is an insane amount of money for insurance for good drivers.

How do we boot them the hell out of here?
I'm getting close. The problem with other provinces (like Ontario, where I lived until 23yrs old) is that with multiple insurance companies, they don't have to insure you. They can hike the rates for your situation, and simply tell you "there are other options if you don't like it."

For RevScene enthusiasts, this becomes important the moment you modify a car. When I left ontario, it had gone as far as some companies denying your insurance claim if you had put non-OEM wheels on your car. It was written right in State Farm's policy, if you read it. There are a NUMBER of us on here that would not have in insurance under a completely capitalist market, like Ontario's. The beauty of ICBC is that if it passes a safety inspection, regardless of your age, you can get insurance. True, if you're under 25 and the car is worth more than $250,000 you can only get minimum liability...but at least you can still drive it.

It's getting pretty hard to use the above as an argument for keeping ICBC though. The fees are insane, and I pay full rates on five cars...even though I live alone, and can only drive one at a time. That's insane. But for the most part we get compared to Alberta, where insurance is cheaper. But keep in mind Ontario, BC and Alberta are the three highest provinces for insurance costs.

ICBC works hard to make the cost of claims payout the central issue, but I think significant savings could be had by looking closely at the management structure and payouts.

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