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Old 05-07-2019, 02:56 PM   #1
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speed cameras' in lower Mainland

Upcoming summer speed camera being install

Abbotsford:

Route 11 at Lonzo Road
Burnaby:

Kingsway at Boundary Road
Kingsway at Royal Oak Avenue
Willingdon at Deer Lake
Coquitlam:

Barnet Highway at Mariner Way
Delta:

Nordel Way at 84th Avenue
Kelowna:

Harvey Avenue at Cooper Road
Highway 97 North at Banks Road
Langley:

200th Street at 64th Avenue
Route 10 at Fraser Highway
Maple Ridge:

Lougheed Highway at 207th Avenue
Nanaimo:

Island Highway at Aulds Road
North Vancouver:

Marine Drive at Capilano Road
Pitt Meadows:

Lougheed Highway at Old Dewdney Trunk Road
Port Coquitlam:

Lougheed Highway at Shaughnessy Street
Richmond:

Garden City Road at Cambie Road
Surrey:

128th Street at 88th Avenue
152nd Street at 96th Avenue
152nd Street at King George Boulevard
64th Avenue at 152nd Street
96th Avenue at 132nd Street
King George Boulevard at 104th Avenue
King George Boulevard at 80th Avenue
Vancouver:

Boundary Road at East 49th Avenue
East Hastings Street at Main Street
East Hastings Street at Renfrew Street
Grandview Highway at Rupert Street
Granville Street at West King Edward Avenue
Kingsway at Joyce Street
Kingsway at Victoria Drive
Knight Street at East 33rd Avenue
Oak Street at West 57th Avenue
Oak Street at West 70th Avenue
Southeast Marine Drive at Kerr Street
West Georgia Street at Cardero Street

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Fuck.

Ding some people for speeding, fuck up all the traffic flow with people jamming on their brakes to cut 20km/h off their speed until they get past the camera and can hammer it again.
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"In order to discourage speeding at any of these intersections, the provincial government and local police will not be sharing the speed threshold that triggers the new cameras."

Hmm..
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Can’t be worse than Switzerland where they trigger at 1km/h over... driving in that country is an exercise in futility.
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I assume the trigger has to be decently above the normal flow of traffic, otherwise most of the people going through are going to get dinged.
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"In order to discourage speeding at any of these intersections, the provincial government and local police will not be sharing the speed threshold that triggers the new cameras."

Hmm..
Personally, I can't see how 10km/h over the posted speed limit would be enough to trigger the cameras. Then again, on Marine drive, 60km/h is dead slow.
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There will for sure be public outcry for the implementation of this depending on the speed trigger. Is the purpose to raise money to help pay ICBC's debt?
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Is this a new thing they're doing, or is this an addition to more?
Any experience on what the speed threshold seems to be like if they do exist already?

Personally, I can't see tickets being given unless at least 20 over, maybe even 30. I wouldn't worry about it so much... at the end of the day, if threshold is too low and average flow of traffic is getting tickets, there will be too much backlash so they wouldn't be able to keep this up.

The next question is, will they be active 24 hrs? Wasn't it revealed a while back that red light cameras actually were only active during parts of the day.


For all the accidents that happen at intersections, is there any statistics on how many were due to speeding and how many were due to bad decision making, like running a red, turning prematurely, etc. When you go into the "Dangerous Drivers" thread, a whole lot of those intersection accidents have nothing to do with speeding. Just idiots being idiots.
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I assume the trigger has to be decently above the normal flow of traffic, otherwise most of the people going through are going to get dinged.
That's the point of a tax camera.
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So does the ticket go to the owner? What happens if someone else was driving that day? When the police pull you over they get the drivers ID, but how would the camera prove who was driving?
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So does the ticket go to the owner? What happens if someone else was driving that day? When the police pull you over they get the drivers ID, but how would the camera prove who was driving?
I assume it will be like red light cameras, to the registered owner
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There will for sure be public outcry for the implementation of this depending on the speed trigger. Is the purpose to raise money to help pay ICBC's debt?
No, because pileups will skyrocket due to ppl slamming on their brakes before crossing intersections.
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Is this a new thing they're doing, or is this an addition to more?
Any experience on what the speed threshold seems to be like if they do exist already?

Personally, I can't see tickets being given unless at least 20 over, maybe even 30. I wouldn't worry about it so much... at the end of the day, if threshold is too low and average flow of traffic is getting tickets, there will be too much backlash so they wouldn't be able to keep this up.

The next question is, will they be active 24 hrs? Wasn't it revealed a while back that red light cameras actually were only active during parts of the day.


For all the accidents that happen at intersections, is there any statistics on how many were due to speeding and how many were due to bad decision making, like running a red, turning prematurely, etc. When you go into the "Dangerous Drivers" thread, a whole lot of those intersection accidents have nothing to do with speeding. Just idiots being idiots.
We have none in BC as they were deemed illegal years ago due to infringing on our rights. Fucking NDP will do anything to claw more money out of us, so this seems totally reasonable. POS Horgan back at it again with his bullshit.

I can comment on the speed threshold that exists in AB with their cameras, I got on in Lethbridge for 56 in a 50. So I'd assume there it is 5km/h over.

Driving in lethbridge was a nightmare, people are cruising at 70 and then everyone crawls to 50 to pass where the red light camera is, and then climbs right back up to 70. It's a fucking gong show.

Edmonton is the same bullshit. The whole thing is fucking retarded, and the politicians should be shamed for wasting money bringing this program back.
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I'm going to be naive and suggest the threshold will start at something reasonable, 15-25 over the limit. The problem is our politicians become addicted to the revenue stream, continue to use the "speed kills" b.s. and will lower the threshold to increase the profit from the cameras. Add in rollout of additional cameras, and the money keep flowing in! This is Photo-radar B.S., simply stated.
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Bike lanes, Gas tax, now this speeding camera crap, is there any group/party would speak for the drivers? I would definite join if someone start a protest or something
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And in a year or two, the ndp is going to roll out some bullshit statistics claiming these cameras are reducing accidents and they will expand the cameras out to more intersections. Calling it right now. Fuck these guys.
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When the NDP was last voted out of power in 2001, following a stunning trail of scandals, the issue that galvanized public opinion against them was speed cameras. The Liberals made it one of the key promises of their campaign that they would eliminate the speed camera vans as soon as they were elected, a promise they kept. And voila, 16 years in power for the provincial liberals!

Now keep in mind that I'm not a highly paid professional political strategist but if I were advising the provincial Liberal party, I'd suggest they just got handed a winning issue. Even better, the NDP have done this early enough in their term for it to really piss off a lot of people in the lower mainland.

Anyone thinking that the limit is going to be set a reasonable amount above the speed limit is dreaming. Witness what's been done recently, roads on which speed limits had been increased have had their speed limits decreased again, when the data showed that the vast majority of accidents on those roads were for factors other than speed.
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do i wish they can put resources elsewhere, yes

but lettuce be real, for those of us living in the core (bby/van/rmd/nshore) 55kph vs 72kph makes no significant difference

you might be a light or two ahead of me after the full commute

time your trips for an entire week and take the average, you might be surprised

out of a month, the difference might be something like 20 minutes

they're enforcing an existing law, and the ticket if unfairly issued can be contested, unlike VI

i'm more annoyed at CoV putting meters everywhere and seeing bylaw officers literally taking out a measuring tape
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