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Not to crap on Tundras, as I loved my Toyota.... but i'd personally never buy one... here's my advice:
First..... My buddy's been a Toyota guy his whole life and upgraded from a 4 cylinder 4Runner to a '17 Tundra a couple years to tow a bigger trailer (26 footer). I was really surprised to hear he was unhappy with the Tundra and was considering trading it in on a F150. This guy literally has driven 'Yotes for 25+ years and is a die hard Toyota guy. But, he's tired of the spartan interior and options relative to modern vehicles (creature comforts) and finds the Tundra a pig on gas and isn't happy with the towing performance.
Second...... me. I pined on a Taco for years and looked in to importing a 3.0L diesel Hilux from Mexico as I wanted a diesel light truck. Nissan finally launched the 5.0L diesel Titan so I jumped at it and bought a 2017 Titan XD Pro4X with the Cummins engine option. So look, while I love this Nissan and it definitely improved my girth (side note: my third Nissan and for the record, I've always been SUPER happy with how reliable Nissans are), I regret buying the Titan. I wasn't prepared for 2 things; the cost of diesel maintenance (Cummins engine requires new fuel filters every 25k/kms for example -- TWO fuel filters at $500 each) which pretty much negates the fuel savings of buying diesel, and having to deal with regeneration mode for the DPF which stinks to high hell once per week as the truck bakes.
So in retrospect, for the $$$ it cost me to buy the full load Titan, I could have bought almost TWO Ford F150s and not have to deal with the constant regeneration bullshit. I'd recommend a F150 FX4 Lariat over the Tundra any day of the week.
PS> Another minor thing to consider..it's way harder to find aftermarket options for the Titans/Tundras compared to domestics. Little things like bed options, window visors.. etc.
Bonus: I'm easily the youngest and fittest guy out there.
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im 99% sure my ancestors are rolling in their graves due to my found desire for country living.
"le say chun lun yeh(stupid fucking dick head), we leave farm generations ago and now you want to go back!?!?!"
I got it all figured out Hypa.
2 properties = 1 high point house
1 maserati = tundra + gassssss
1 scooter = 3 craigslist animals (some beat up old horse, a retarded sheep, etc)
THEN Ill be done and i can die there.
Unless i neglect my lawn, in which my white neighbors will promptly tell me so and then after continuous neglect, probably set a burning cross on my lawn followed by a good old fashion lynching......
OR ill just get a job at CP rail and get blown up rebuilding CP's dying infrastructure. JUST LIKE GRANDPA!!!
The demographics in Langley have changed immensely in the last 7 or so years. If you lived in High Point, your Indian neighbours would kindly ask that you cut your grass, while the Asian family on the opposite side would be too shy to say anything.
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I think the absolute most important thing to think about is to really sit down and figure out what you are going to use the truck for. lots of people want a full size truck just because and thats ok but if you're even considering a midsize vs a full size then you need to start by figuring that out first.
in late 2013 i went shopping for a new truck and i was loving the new tundras, but the lack of features that are so important on a truck, that will be used as a truck, turned me far away. couldn't even get a brake controller as an option. I ended up with a late model 2013 f150 3.5 ecoboost fully loaded and i have zero regrets. i tow up to 8k lbs. a few weeks ago i was actually thinking about all the options on my truck and truth be told, other then the electronic locking diffs and hill decent control, i use literally every other feature daily.
leather heated/cooled seats
nav
back up cam with the hitch zoom for easy trailer hookups
remote start
power folding mirrors
brake controller
auto climate control with zones
huge fuel tank allows for decent range even with bag fuel economy. (135L)
at the time some of this stuff wasn't even possible on the tundra
my ecoboost makes amazing power. i have no complaints. fuel economy sucks but i can pull my 8000lbs up the coquihalla without missing a beat. and to top it off it's incredibly luxurious and compfy as a daily around town.
I’m currently looking for a truck sub-$10k for southern sask reasons. In this range there are options all over the place. When people say the tundras are bad on gas, what are we talking about, like 15L/100km city bad or worse?
Not looking to haul anything, just hate borrowing trucks for dump runs, household moves etc. Roads here are beyond terrible, there are third world countries that are smoother.
That's not too bad, driving a Chevy Avalanche on the highway in Alberta with the cruise on in pleasant weather I got 22L/100km. In colder weather with a 3/4 ton I got 24L/100km. Both times it was just me and two duffle bags.
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half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
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reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z
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OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
That is absolutely incredible, I didn’t realize trucks are that bad, I get upset when I average 11L/100km in the TL. Luckily I walk or bike to work and use the SO X1 for long trips, but shit. How do people afford the gas?
That is absolutely incredible, I didn’t realize trucks are that bad, I get upset when I average 11L/100km in the TL. Luckily I walk or bike to work and use the SO X1 for long trips, but shit. How do people afford the gas?
which is why i mentioned people need to really think about what they NEED in a truck
you either buy a full size truck because you don't care about the fuel mileage and you can afford it. or you genuinely NEED a full size truck.
i regularly haul 2k lbs through town and as mentioned above i tow sometimes up to 8k.
on my 3.5 ecoboost i get 19.5-20.5L/100 in the city. but thats with frequent heavy loads.
with my trailer fully loaded from burnaby to penticton over to coq i did 34L/100
obviously a diesel would be WAY better with the towing mileage but living with a 1 ton sucks and i only tow that much a few times a year.
You can expect something like 20L/100 for the older generation of trucks with large v8’s. I had an 04 f150 with the 5.4 and saw 22L/100 city.
I had an 04 and 08 F150 and was easily spending $1,200 a month in fuel back then. Good times, I did drive quite a bit though.
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Jackal is correct and that was a consideration when I bought the Titan XD diesel -- it's considered a "heavy half" or a 5/8ths ton. I didn't want to commit to a 1 ton truck in the City as I don't need it for work... I'm just a weekend warrior with a boat and a trailer.
Any way, because I have the Pro4X version I get worse mileage than guys without the 2nd differential -- I get 17L/100km in the city (Burnaby to Richmond and Burnaby to New West mostly). On the highway with no load, it's a joke, I get 11L/100km between Vancouver and Kelowna, and towing around 5,000lbs it pushes the mileage to around 18L/100km up and over the Coquihala.
For what its worth, as a full sized truck it's better on fuel than my Pathfinder was (20L/100km) in the City.
Geez... if they wanted to actually cut emissions all they'd have to do is cull truck purchases...
The thing I always wonder is "how do they do it in Europe?" because these vehicles do not exist in Europe and they still get all their construction and personal projects done... something to think about... we're just extremely wasteful/selfish here. I don't mean that in a bad way against anyone here, all North Americans are selfish with their personal space etc... so no surprise it's the same with the tools we use too.
That's not too bad, driving a Chevy Avalanche on the highway in Alberta with the cruise on in pleasant weather I got 22L/100km. In colder weather with a 3/4 ton I got 24L/100km. Both times it was just me and two duffle bags.
Damn, that is rough. No wonder GM went to Active fuel management.
Regardless, it wouldn't have made a difference on highways like the Coq. I'm a regular on the S2S and have been able to get my usage down to about 14.5L/100km. There are a few spots that you have to put the foot down to maintain travel speed, but for the most part high 13's are possible in traffic. In the city, I'm happy to get it down to about 20L/100km. I tried to get it down to 18L/100km, but had to drive like an absolute pussy to do that.
On a side note, my economy on the way to Kamloops this past weekend was 20L/100km. On the way back it went up to 21L/100km because I had my foot in it. Heavy trucks need big motors to move them.
A last note about Tundra fuel economy, when I set my cruise to 105kmh, it went down to about 16L/100km. But the Coq limit is 120kmh, and 105kmh will get you fuking killed. Bump it to 115 cruising in the right lane, and it shoots back up to the 20's.
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Geez... if they wanted to actually cut emissions all they'd have to do is cull truck purchases...
That may work in the city, but step outside of the lower mainland and you would be lynched for saying such things.
For shits and giggles, and also because I like math..... I did some calculations on my trip.
Using a price of $1.51/L, what did it cost me to travel 265km using the different L/km values listed above.
At 21L/100km, my cost was the highest at $84.03
@ 20L/100km, a bit lower at $80.03
@ 18L/100km, we're at $72.03
@15L/100km, we get down to $60.02 (edited)
ah, snap.
I must have done that one at 9.7, probably based on what someone posted here for their mileage.
Duh @ me.
Regardless of my gwailo math, the numbers don't lie. I'm saving $24 per trip, or $48 for the round trip to Kamloops and back. If I did it twice a week that would be significant. But once a month, it's not as big a savings as I would have originally thought. That said, I'm completely willing to pay a little more for the freedom to drive a vehicle I like.
^ multiply that across a years worth of travel and factor in the pricier insurance too.
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Geez... if they wanted to actually cut emissions all they'd have to do is cull truck purchases...
The thing I always wonder is "how do they do it in Europe?" because these vehicles do not exist in Europe and they still get all their construction and personal projects done... something to think about... we're just extremely wasteful/selfish here. I don't mean that in a bad way against anyone here, all North Americans are selfish with their personal space etc... so no surprise it's the same with the tools we use too.
From my understanding they use vans with a single row cab in the front. All these crew cab trucks with tiny beds can't haul crap all for cargo by comparison. They're also far taller than they need to be so the aerodynamics go to shit for no reason other than trying to look tough.
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half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
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Originally Posted by RevYouUp
reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z
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Originally Posted by Good_KarMa
OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
Geez... if they wanted to actually cut emissions all they'd have to do is cull truck purchases...
The thing I always wonder is "how do they do it in Europe?" because these vehicles do not exist in Europe and they still get all their construction and personal projects done... something to think about... we're just extremely wasteful/selfish here. I don't mean that in a bad way against anyone here, all North Americans are selfish with their personal space etc... so no surprise it's the same with the tools we use too.
The big Sprinters and the new big Transits are typically what they would use in Europe. Underneath these vans are really a 1500-2500 level chassis so you don't give up any capability. They can also get quite tall with lower load floors, which means you can standup, carry more weather sensitive loads, etc.
my 2017 5.7L ram get's mid 12's going up and back from whistler...was high 11's down to portland
and right now is mid 15/16's with a mix of city/highway....all city is like high 16's
My 2015 Ram was similar... and then when I changed tires to the KO2s I used like 1L/100KM more than before because LT tires + the worse rolling resistance of the tread pattern.
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