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Old 05-29-2019, 08:10 PM   #1
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Ferrari SF90 Stradale. Another Ferrari hybrid.

Another hybrid from Ferrari besides the Laferrari.

SF90 Stradale specs:

total HP: 986

Engine: 4.0 L V8, turbocharged, 769 hp. 590 pounds of torque.

Three electric motors, one located on the rear axle, and two located up front – in the SF90 Stradale, which produce an additional 217 hp.

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0 to 100km: 2.7 seconds

Top speed: 211 mph


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a tesla p100d will smoke that thing 0-60, so whats the friggin point of getting one
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a tesla p100d will smoke that thing 0-60, so whats the friggin point of getting one

Formula One racing technology and prestige from the Prancing Horse badge.
-better handling in this Ferrari than the Tesla P100D is my prediction.
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I'm sure it'll handle good but that's a sad excuse when we are talking about a million dollar car.
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looks good minus exhaust coming out of mid-bumper

didn't even realize the 488 has already been replaced

so this is their midrange product? Tributo < this < LaF? V12 somewhere under this as their grand touring car?

guess it doesn't matter as i'll never get to own one
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Collectors status. Most of them won't be driven much.

If we discount that then it's the thrill of taming the beast. I get that feeling when driving my MR2 Turbo. Sure, a modern Camry is faster. Hell, my 5000 lbs Genesis is damn near 2 seconds faster from 0-60. The thrill comes from keeping the MR2 under control because it's going to try to kill you. If I don't know what I'm doing, even making a turn going 30kph can result in snap oversteer. Even when I get out of FordFanatic's Cobra... the car will bite your leg when you try to get out of the car if you're not careful. I have a scar from burning my leg on the side pipe exhausts. I rented a a Tesla, I didn't get the same thrill... but it's quicker.
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I'm sure it'll handle good but that's a sad excuse when we are talking about a million dollar car.
Well it is what it is, unless it's full EV, it's not going to beat the P100D in that category. EV's just have that extra advantage of instant torque off the line.

It's not the most "bang for the buck", but chances are if you're in the demographic for this type of car, you're not cross shopping with a Tesla anyway.

One's an actual sports car, the other is a ridiculously fast luxury car.
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I think a more appropriate competition would be the new Tesla Roaster.

0-60 or quarter miles... I don't think it matters anymore. No production car with ICE will be up to the task against Tesla. Its 1.9sec 0-60mph was quoted to be "conservative". And hypercar manufacturer Koenigsegg went back to the drawing board for their releases after its founder verified the veracity (or its possibility) of Tesla claims with its own engineers. So, it's not vaporware.

Now, if Tesla can actually get its handling right... I think what's left for Ferraris and Lambos would be the prestige...

As a Ferrari fans, I am quite disappointed for not seeing a true EV from Ferrari, while its closest competition, Lambo already embraced the idea.

It only led me to one conclusion: Ferrari doesn't YET posses a viable high performance full EV technology. Let's hope they do something in that aspect with LaFerrari successor.
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Consider the Ferrari as an investment.

Telsa P100D wouldn't appreciate in value at all (Unless Tesla went bankrupt lol)
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Elon changed the speed game for good. I guess this is very much like a quartz watch vs a mechanical watch. Both tells time, quartz does it much cheaper and more precisely but it doesn't have the snob appeal.

Apologists would say there's an art to watch making and there is, but this whole electric car seems to be going down the same road. I for one am looking forward to the onslaught of cheap EVs and performance EVs
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I dont think anyone buys Prancing Horses for drag racing times.
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I'm sure it'll handle good but that's a sad excuse when we are talking about a million dollar car.
I know right? It can't even go offroading either. A $5,000 Rav 4 would smoke it on the trails.

What a pos.
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I dont think anyone buys Prancing Horses for drag racing times.
Yeah but that's a big part of exotic car ownership. It's suppose to be "exotic" because it can do things normal cars can't. Hell majority of the exotic car owners I know will only do minor stop light races in order to "test" their performance machines. Nobody's taking these damn things to racetracks considering a high mileage Ferrari is anything over 10k

Now if a Tesla pulls up next to you on a stoplight, you're gonna have a nervous twitch instead of that unshakable faith that you'll smoke these plebeian cars. Yeah I mean you could buy it purely as an investments, but unless it's a special model, they still lose money. 458, 488, etc. Image factor? Sure but that image has been greatly diluted now that EVs are going to trump their performance markers.
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Imo Porsche will be the next big EV performance player

Taycan right around the corner and only up from there
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Now, if Tesla can actually get its handling right... I think what's left for Ferraris and Lambos would be the prestige...

As a Ferrari fans, I am quite disappointed for not seeing a true EV from Ferrari, while its closest competition, Lambo already embraced the idea.

It only led me to one conclusion: Ferrari doesn't YET posses a viable high performance full EV technology. Let's hope they do something in that aspect with LaFerrari successor.
Prestige fades fast. Look at Cadillac and Lincoln. They used to be on par with Rolls Royce. Anyone who was anyone would have a Cadillac.

Once key metrics are taken away you can only limp on so long before you are forgotten.
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Someone said it before. Time to buy low HP classic British cars lol. Only way to stay in a cool car and look classy. Doesn’t matter if grandma can beat you off the line in her EV.
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If you want to spend millions on a car and want a EV look at Rimac https://www.rimac-automobili.com/en/ or the Pininfarina Battista that use the Rimic drivetrain.



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Honestly tho, where are you going to drive this thing to enjoy its potential? Maybe in Europe? What is more realistic for the Ferrari Ad is driving this thing in daily traffic going the speed limit because that's more likely. Then when the traffic light turns green you accelerate hard to hear the engine shift it into second gear then stomp on the brakes because you are way over the city speed limit.
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Yeah but that's a big part of exotic car ownership. It's suppose to be "exotic" because it can do things normal cars can't. Hell majority of the exotic car owners I know will only do minor stop light races in order to "test" their performance machines. Nobody's taking these damn things to racetracks considering a high mileage Ferrari is anything over 10k

Now if a Tesla pulls up next to you on a stoplight, you're gonna have a nervous twitch instead of that unshakable faith that you'll smoke these plebeian cars. Yeah I mean you could buy it purely as an investments, but unless it's a special model, they still lose money. 458, 488, etc. Image factor? Sure but that image has been greatly diluted now that EVs are going to trump their performance markers.
It's literally one aspect that it's better at. ONE. 0-60 That's cherry picking pretty hard imo. Let's make that number 60-211 and see who wins? That's also a part of Exotic car ownership right?

When that Tsla rolls up to a 458 at the lights. No one gives a rats ass about the P1000, let's be honest. It's a complete snooze fest aside from that one number.

An Arial Atom is pretty damn quick for the money, but surely no one would say an Atom is better than a new Ferarri.

Lettus be real. Most super cars cannot be pushed to what they were meant to do by most owners. No one is doing laps around Stanley park sideways so the easiest spec to play with is 0-60 at a light of hwy. But if you're reducing the entire supercar down to that one spec, you're missing the entire point of the car by a mile and you bought the wrong car. If you want 0-60, I have no idea why you're not buying a Hellcat for 1/4 the price. The Ferarri driver could not care less the Tsla can get to 60, Zero point god knows what faster.

No one is buying Ferarris, Porsches etc for their drag racing NHRA heritage.

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not everyone cares about speed..... some people use it to brag and pick up girls...
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