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im only here to say i participated in this thread, im from hong kong and taiwan living in china lets hope i dont get arrested lol |
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I learned a lot of new stuff in this thread... its bad on all sides... With this issue aside, it really makes me think of the direction that is China headed in. Its pretty bad already, and it will get so much worse. |
China is legitimately terrifying, and as much as Trump is a stupid idiot, I think he is right in that the rest of the world has to pressure them. |
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protest continues based on this. They are blocking the police HQ now. Probably a good day for thieves and robbers. I think CCP will sacrifice Secretary for Security (John Lee) and/or Secretary for Justice (Teresa Cheng) to calm the storm. I predict JOhn Lee will be the first on the chopping blocks because he has been doing a shit job with responding to protestors and pretty much-adding fuel to the fire every time he speaks. |
As someone who lived in HK for the last few years of British rule it's sad to see what it has slowly degraded in to. I really enjoyed my time there. I've been back a bunch since no longer being a resident but even my dad called it quits in 09. He and many of his colleagues felt it was time to go. None of my family or the network of expats we knew are surprised by China's actions though. HK will 'die' as the hub it once was with this continued meddling; I wonder if it's already passed the tipping point and another mass exodus will be happening. You'd think China would have gotten the hint that blatantly illegal business practices and strong-arming doesn't work in the 21st century with Huawei forecasting a 30B loss of its profits due to being alienated by the rest of the world. |
Stunning composite imagery of last week's march PogChamp This is probably the most 'readable' image I've seen, showing just how big the scale is https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...test-size.html |
Amnesty International's report on how the police handled protests 6/12. TL;DR they title it "HOW NOT TO POLICE A PROTEST" Includes a lot of footage I haven't seen before. So if you thought the cops weren't actually that bad.. think again, it was REALLY FUCKING BAD. |
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They need better training on keeping their cool and composure. They act and look just like any MK gang. And look at how their superior is laughing in the background. |
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im all for things like flags on goverment buildings and mandarin on MTR station is normal and i personally think its a must since the hand over but since its 50 years unchange, then they should keep it intill the time period expires u must know that china is like a birds cage, your freedom is base on how big the cage is period and depending on how u perform they will adjust things to see what fits right im not a fan of the cpp but im not going to say i hate them, i live here and thats i dont talk/play politics |
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What do you all think now? Freedom fighters or hooligans? https://www.usnews.com/dims4/USNEWS/...ests_64870.jpg Looks like Vancouver 2011 https://cdn.japantimes.2xx.jp/wp-con...02-870x580.jpg |
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If thats what it takes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udham_Singh Udham Singh (26 December 1899 – 31 July 1940), was a revolutionary belonging to the Ghadar Party best known for his assassination in London of Michael O' Dwyer, the former lieutenant governor of the Punjab in India, on 13 March 1940. The assassination was in revenge for the Jallianwala Bagh massacre in Amritsar in 1919.[1] Singh was subsequently tried and convicted of murder and hanged in July 1940. While in custody, he used the name Ram Mohammad Singh Azad, which represents the three major religions of Punjab and his anti-colonial sentiment.[2] |
looks like the sunflower movement in taiwan few years ago they didn't deface anything though https://cdn.techinasia.com/wp-conten...87947c74_b.jpg |
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Watching the news yesterday, it reminds me the Vancouver riot. IMO I don't see a point to damage or take over the legislative council when no body was there and they decided to leave after 12am. To me the HK police is quite inexperience, some not sure where to stand, some dropped their shield etc. Police evacuated after 9pm, probably eating popcorn in front of the surveillance cameras, then plan to knock on the doors in the morning. |
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This was all staged to make protesters look bad. Police not incompetent, they were instructed by President Xi to let them in to create havoc. Some protesters were China sympathizers. CRP controlling the narrative. |
they need the Chinese military to roll in to institute a curfew and maintain order through martial law uh oh that's where its headed if they keep it up |
I mean... there is no way the police would let people storm a gov't building without resistance. This happened yesterday. It's not a great look for the HK people who are all peacefully protesting and it sort of gives "grandfather xi" an excuse to take further action |
Most, including myself believe this was a setup by the government to give them leverage to hold on the protestors' demands. The fact they could barge into Legco so easily contradicts the police use of force during previous "riots" to suppress protestors from getting into legco. On another hand, you have comically things like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/co...at_9pm_police/ where the police provide a status update on the protestors barging into legco at 9pm, when his rollie clearly shows 5pm. As a result: https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/co...n_their_video/ --- #2 It's quite odd how the whole crew (CE, SofS, SofJ, Police Chief and their support staff) all got together ready to go at 4am to address the press. That said, the CE basically brushed off the Cantonese/local reporters' questions but would provide very detailed responses to the foreign press. People in PR have pointed out this is a tactic was used to help China leverage to the international audience that this whole protest has become violent and skew them from the peaceful protest that happened in the morning. |
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From reading and watch the various protestor declarations, the "occupation" videos, the "rescue" operation videos, I honestly can't imagine how any sensible person would not sympathsize with the young protestors. Their plain and simple sincerity, and their undying love for their home (Hong Kong) cannot be more obvious. They may be unrefined with their means, but their actions and accusations are the direct results of tyranny and ridculous policies and lies from the HKSAR gov. Of course, the gov supporters (and many Mainland Chinese) will not be swayed because it comes from a difference in fundamental values. You are not going to see changes in these people until their own core interests have been harmed. In some cases, they may even think it is OK for their own core interests to be sacrified "in the name of the greater good". FailFish |
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