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westopher 07-29-2019 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8955227)
Sorry, maybe i should have just made a post mocking the condolences of those who've just had their lives shattered forever for teh lulz.
Seems to be the decent thing to do around here.
Taking "thoughts and prayers" as an appropriate condolence to victims of gun violence is the real mockery. The lack of action from people in power is the joke. But yeah bad guys don't obey laws, and people that want less guns just want people to make a law that makes guns illegal right? Isn't that the argument? It has nothing to do with wide availability, supply, and cost. Right?

Mr.Money 07-29-2019 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by freakshow (Post 8955185)
What would you change to prevent this kind of shooting in the future?

have Big brother firearms...finger print ID checker on the weapons,wireless safety net of having sensors in automotive cars and invisible gates to deactivate firearms and allow police to know its in the area tracking them passing street lights if permission isn't given,year 3000!


dumb weapons get banned! WutFace

68style 07-29-2019 07:42 PM
... aaaaaand there we go... dipshit bought his gun in Nevada where its much less strict to do so.

Yodamaster 07-29-2019 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8955161)
Why don't mass shooters use RPG's or 50 cal machine guns?
Because those aren't practical, the hardware is out there, police seized a goddamn air to air missile in Italy. You'd be amazed at how many pieces of military equipment get yoinked, Canada is no exception, believe me.

Manic! 07-29-2019 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Yodamaster (Post 8955268)
Because those aren't practical, the hardware is out there, police seized a goddamn air to air missile in Italy.
It was a non-working part of a missile from the war in Iraq. A fully automatic m-16 is practical. If it was not practical the soldiers in the US military would not carry them.

Yodamaster 07-29-2019 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8955269)
It was a non-working part of a missile from the war in Iraq. A fully automatic m-16 is practical. If it was not practical the soldiers in the US military would not carry them.
An M16 is very different from an M2 or an RPG, you are absolutely correct in assuming that they are practical, it's why converted AR15's are plentiful among gangs in Canada. That's not to say that heavier articles aren't around, you wouldn't believe me if I told you what I've seen pass through my last workplace.

Sometimes it's not even gangs, there have been a handful of times where RCMP officers have been in possession of some pretty serious hardware at home.

Manic! 07-29-2019 10:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yodamaster (Post 8955270)
An M16 is very different from an M2 or an RPG, you are absolutely correct in assuming that they are practical, it's why converted AR15's are plentiful among gangs in Canada. That's not to say that heavier articles aren't around, you wouldn't believe me if I told you what I've seen pass through my last workplace.

Sometimes it's not even gangs, there have been a handful of times where RCMP officers have been in possession of some pretty serious hardware at home.
So why don't mass shooters use them. The Vegas shooter used a gun bump stock instead of a fully automatic gun. Also why didn't the Oklahoma city bombers use something like a plastic explosive instead of fertilizer?

Yodamaster 07-29-2019 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8955272)
So why don't mass shooters use them. The Vegas shooter used a gun bump stock instead of a fully automatic gun. Also why didn't the Oklahoma city bombers use something like a plastic explosive instead of fertilizer?
There is no good reason for why Stephen Paddock used bump fire stocks, because he could have used alternate methods to achieve the same effect with about the same amount of effort. It quite literally takes thirty minutes with a hacksaw, some files and sheet steel to crudely convert an AR15 to automatic fire. If you have access to a hobby mill, you can more permanently convert an AR15 to an actual M16 with available parts. exact DOD blueprints for M16 lower receivers are readily available on google.

Example: https://www.theoutdoorstrader.com/da...007__20001.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1c/56...9e355f1a38.jpg

(BTW, this is a registered machine gun in the US) https://www.recoilweb.com/wp-content...ll-auto.02.jpg

Timothy used fertilizer because it was easy and available, it's really that simple.

Manic! 07-29-2019 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Yodamaster (Post 8955274)
There is no good reason for why Stephen Paddock used bump fire stocks, because he could have used alternate methods to achieve the same effect with about the same amount of effort. It quite literally takes thirty minutes with a hacksaw, some files and sheet steel to crudely convert an AR15 to automatic fire. If you have access to a hobby mill, you can more permanently convert an AR15 to an actual M16 with available parts. exact DOD blueprints for M16 lower receivers are readily available on google.

Example: https://www.theoutdoorstrader.com/da...007__20001.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1c/56...9e355f1a38.jpg

(BTW, this is a registered machine gun in the US) https://www.recoilweb.com/wp-content...ll-auto.02.jpg

Timothy used fertilizer because it was easy and available, it's really that simple.

And that's what I have been waiting for someone to say. If you make something harder to get less people will use it. If you make guns harder to get less people will use them.


I find it funny that the same people who don't think gun bans will work want abortion bans and support drug bans. They think banning everything else will work but somehow banning guns will never work.

The US banned the sale of new machine guns in 1986. I bet there where lots of pre 1986 machine guns out there but as time went on the number of machine guns decreased.

Nlkko 07-30-2019 06:59 AM
Banning gun is extreme and unnecessary. Mandatory training is a must and it's a joke that's there's no regulation for it. You have to go through road test to drive a vehicle which is less lethal than shooting a gun, yet there's no training requirement for gun ownership.

Hondaracer 07-30-2019 07:44 AM
There’s a multi day course, background check, and referral process for gun ownership. At least in Canada.

welfare 07-30-2019 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8955199)
Like a coward, welfare changing the subject instead of defending his position. Also going by counties? How stupid do you think we are? What's next your going to tell us Ferrari is more reliable than Honda? Because a lot more Honda's go in for repair. Facts real facts.


Search Results
Featured snippet from the web
Least Populated US Counties
Rank County Population
1 Kalawao County, Hawaii 88
2 Loving County, Texas 134
3 King County, Texas 296
4 Kenedy County, Texas 417


List of the most populous counties in the United States

Rank County State Land
area
(km2)[4] Land
area
(mi2)[5] April 1,
2010
census
July 1,
2018
official
estimate
Mid-2010
to
mid-2018
change
(absolute) Mid-2010
to
mid-2018
change
(%) County seat
1 Los Angeles California 10,509.87 4,057.88 9,818,605 10,105,518 344,902 3.51 Los Angeles
2 Cook Illinois 2,448.38 945.33 5,194,675 5,180,493 -16,588 -0.32 Chicago
3 Harris Texas 4,411.99 1,703.48 4,092,459 4,698,619 560,521 13.70 Houston
4 Maricopa Arizona 23,828.26 9,200.14 3,817,117 4,410,824 489,916 12.83 Phoenix
5 San Diego California 10,895.12 4,206.63 3,095,313 3,343,364 242,372 7.83 San Diego
6 Orange California 2,047.56 790.57 3,010,232 3,185,968 180,168 5.99 Santa Ana
7 Miami-Dade Florida 4,915.06 1,897.72 2,496,435 2,761,581 255,361 10.23 Miami
8 Dallas Texas 2,256.60 871.28 2,368,139 2,637,772 250,009 10.56 Dallas
9 Kings New York 183.41 70.82 2,504,700 2,582,830 144,071 5.75 Brooklyn, NYC
10 Riverside California 18,664.70 7,206.48 2,189,641 2,450,758 233,625 10.67 Riverside

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...population.JPG
He uses counties because it's more localized than states. He could have used cities, but that wouldn't make a difference since there are huge cities and small ones as well. Going beyond that the data doesn't exist.
If you'd read the article and understood it you'd see that he wasn't trying to hide the fact that counties vary in size
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Meanwhile, 5 percent of the counties, which made up nearly half the population, accounted for more than two-thirds of murders in the country, with the highest numbers concentrated in areas around major cities like Chicago and Baltimore.
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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8955277)
And that's what I have been waiting for someone to say. If you make something harder to get less people will use it. If you make guns harder to get less people will use them.
Guns were banned at this event.
And the ak47 is banned in California.
He brought them into both by breaking the law

Manic! 07-30-2019 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Nlkko (Post 8955284)
Banning gun is extreme and unnecessary. Mandatory training is a must and it's a joke that's there's no regulation for it. You have to go through road test to drive a vehicle which is less lethal than shooting a gun, yet there's no training requirement for gun ownership.
No one wants to ban all guns. That's just fear mongering by the NRA becase they need to keep making that money so wayne lapierre can pay the rent for his 20 something intern and go on a $26000 shopping spree for clothes.

No one needs this unless you are hunting Predator.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzZriyWX4Ac20Oy.jpg

MG1 07-30-2019 10:44 AM
Thanking you just because I have this thing with chicks and guns.

Any pics of the rest of her? On second thought, maybe not. She can turn out to be IG’s second cousin thrice removed, gulolow

Hondaracer 07-30-2019 12:24 PM
Nevermind

westopher 07-30-2019 03:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8955295)

Guns were banned at this event.
And the ak47 is banned in California.
He brought them into both by breaking the law
Maybe they should build a wall around california to keep the ak47s out?

Manic! 07-30-2019 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 8955328)
Maybe they should build a wall around california to keep the ak47s out?
Funny part is they had a fence but the gut cut threw it and there was tons of security and police with guns.

westopher 08-03-2019 11:18 AM
https://apple.news/AoXcJ24XxQzGwa3JbFF9A0g
Keep those prayers coming.

Manic! 08-03-2019 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 8955670)
What? Not in Texas. I thought everyone in Texas carried a gun. Where was that good guy with a gun that everyone talks about?

https://www.gunstocarry.com/gun-laws...exas-gun-laws/

Fun facts: . Open carry is legal provided the handgun is in a shoulder or belt holster.
1314620 have licenses to carry in Texas.

https://pics.me.me/heartofteous-comi...e-14528711.png

320icar 08-03-2019 12:06 PM
Speaking of Texas, mass shooting in El Paso in a mall / walmart

Manic! 08-03-2019 01:04 PM
CNN is showing video of the Walmart parking lot with dead bodies on the ground. They try to blur the bodies but they do a shitty job and you can see all the blood.

Manic! 08-03-2019 01:30 PM
https://photos.smugmug.com/FIGHT/i-c...L/texas-XL.jpg

Poor shooter had to wear hearing protection because the damn democrats will not allow gun silencers.

Good think real Canadians are fighting for gun silencers.

https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/P...Petition=e-575

RRxtar 08-03-2019 06:05 PM
Hey manic you know silencers are REQUIRED in many European countries for hunting and range shooting?

Manic! 08-03-2019 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RRxtar (Post 8955698)
Hey manic you know silencers are REQUIRED in many European countries for hunting and range shooting?
And those countries don't let you legally walk into a mall with a gun on your waste.

Mr.Money 08-03-2019 07:03 PM
that's scary as shit,looks like an ak 47.


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