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Manic! 08-08-2019 10:27 AM

Good thing no one ever breaks into cars. Just imagine a crack head breaking into a car and stealing a gun.

The mother of the Dayton shooter and one of the victims had called the police weeks before but the cops just told her it legal for him to own a gun.

Fun fact scheer wants us style gun laws. https://web.archive.org/web/20170525...se_on_firearms look at the button on the bottom. You can't answer no.

Did anyone see the crowds at the El paso hospital when trump visited? The crowds where huge the most people at a hospital after a mass shooting ever.

winson604 08-08-2019 11:29 AM

Here's the incident I was referring to.

Skip to 1:30 where she get's attacked.


El Bastardo 08-08-2019 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by winson604 (Post 8956076)
The idea that any random citizen could just pull out a gun because they're reacting poorly to a scenario be it they didn't like how you lane changed or otherwise is crazy.

I'm not defending this kind of behaviour but any gun owner (even in Canada) could do the same. And its just as illegal. Its called brandishing and that gets you jailtime. Its not an instrument to intimidate when you feel upset.

Manic! 08-08-2019 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by El Bastardo (Post 8956105)
I'm not defending this kind of behaviour but any gun owner (even in Canada) could do the same. And its just as illegal. Its called brandishing and that gets you jailtime. Its not an instrument to intimidate when you feel upset.

But every idiot in Canada is not allowed to own a gun. Next time you walk down a busy street look at all the people and image them having a gun.

winson604 08-08-2019 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by El Bastardo (Post 8956105)
I'm not defending this kind of behaviour but any gun owner (even in Canada) could do the same. And its just as illegal. Its called brandishing and that gets you jailtime. Its not an instrument to intimidate when you feel upset.

What Manic! said is my point. Yes, it "could" happen here but to be honest if I got into any altercation with a random person in Vancouver the most i'd expect is maybe i'd get my ass kicked by their fist and maybe a baseball bat at best However, in Texas as an example I would actually have to assume and fear that no matter if it's the 21 year old nerd or a 90- year old grandma that I might get shot.

underscore 08-08-2019 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by El Bastardo (Post 8956105)
I'm not defending this kind of behaviour but any gun owner (even in Canada) could do the same. And its just as illegal. Its called brandishing and that gets you jailtime.

They could, but they'd be illegally carrying it from the moment they left the house in Canada, so people aren't bringing them around in their glovebox/purse/whatever. Then if such a situation does arise it's not conveniently on hand to any dipshit who wants to wave it around like a moron.

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Originally Posted by El Bastardo (Post 8956105)
Its not an instrument to intimidate when you feel upset.

And yet it seems to be used as such quite frequently in the US.

Hondaracer 08-08-2019 03:45 PM

Albeit when you are caught with a completely illegal handgun, ie. Purchased illegally, no RPAL, no range membership, loaded, and obviously used for illicit means, the penalties are minuscule.

Manic! 08-08-2019 08:48 PM

Man walks into Walmart with an ar and 100 rounds of ammo. Manager pulls fire alarm the guy gets apprehended by a former fire fighter. The guy will probably sue for a violation of his rights.

https://www.ky3.com/content/news/Hea...528602951.html

welfare 08-08-2019 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8956065)
A good guy with a gun is a fairy tail told by the NRA.

Good thing that firefighter had his gun SeemsGood

CharlesInCharge 08-08-2019 10:31 PM

Guy came on PressTV news saying the Ohio killer killed 6 black people out of the 8 in total... and with shooting his sister, she was dating a black guy.

Manic! 08-09-2019 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8956150)
Good thing that firefighter had his gun SeemsGood

Why the other guy had ever right to carry a gun in Walmart. Under the law the fighter fighter fkd up. He is the one that should be in jail for stoping a guy from exercising his second amendment rights.

welfare 08-09-2019 12:00 PM

https://lawcenter.giffords.org/gun-l...tate-by-state/

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No statutes in Missouri specifically prohibit the open carrying of firearms, and it specifically authorizes any person who has a valid concealed carry endorsement, and who is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, to briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense.1.No person may exhibit any weapon readily capable of lethal use in an angry or threatening manner in the presence of one or more persons.2

Manic! 08-09-2019 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8956188)

Sorry I don't know the gun laws of every state. The fact that every state has vastly different gun laws is crazy. What gets you jail time in one state is perfectly fine in another.

welfare 08-09-2019 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8956201)
Sorry I don't know the gun laws of every state. The fact that every state has vastly different gun laws is crazy. What gets you jail time in one state is perfectly fine in another.

Since individual states were formed prior to unification and the forming of a country, the state retained much of its sovereignty.
We don't have drastically distinguishable laws from province to province because Canada was formed first as a country and then broken up into provinces/territories.

Personally i think it makes a lot of sense to allow states to determine their own laws, since variables like demographics and population density can have an effect on crime. And those vary widely from state to state.
What works for one state may be futile or too punitive for another.

Manic! 08-10-2019 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8956213)
Since individual states were formed prior to unification and the forming of a country, the state retained much of its sovereignty.
We don't have drastically distinguishable laws from province to province because Canada was formed first as a country and then broken up into provinces/territories.

Personally i think it makes a lot of sense to allow states to determine their own laws, since variables like demographics and population density can have an effect on crime. And those vary widely from state to state.
What works for one state may be futile or too punitive for another.

It makes no sense to have different laws in every state. In one state a speeding ticket would just be a fine in another it could be jail time for up to a year.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...kysbqlirzp.jpg

https://jalopnik.com/never-speed-in-...-in-1613604053

welfare 08-10-2019 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8956222)
It makes no sense to have different laws in every state. In one state a speeding ticket would just be a fine in another it could be jail time for up to a year.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...kysbqlirzp.jpg

https://jalopnik.com/never-speed-in-...-in-1613604053

Well it's unfortunate that he didn't heed the many warnings he'd received and decided to break their law anyways.

Like i said the states are independent of each other. That's how their country was created. You can think of traveling to another state as similar to traveling to another country.
You mind their laws and keep your nose clean and you'll likely be ok.

Manic! 08-10-2019 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8956226)
Well it's unfortunate that he didn't heed the many warnings he'd received and decided to break their law anyways.

Like i said the states are independent of each other. That's how their country was created. You can think of traveling to another state as similar to traveling to another country.
You mind their laws and keep your nose clean and you'll likely be ok.

Are you saying the US is like the EU?


Keeping your nose clean does not always work. Bird poop on your hood can test positive for cocaine.


Here is Ed Bolian promoting a service theta helps you beat speeding tickets by getting you in touch with local lawyers that may be buddies with the judge or prosecutor.


Manic! 08-10-2019 05:28 PM

Trump gives thumbs up to mass shootings. Both of the baby's parents where killed in El Paso and that's a great reason to smile.



https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/asse...-large-169.jpg

StylinRed 08-10-2019 07:02 PM

A 20yr old guy killed someone at his home (a female details not revealed) then proceeded to a Mosque, outside of Oslo, was armed with at least one pistol, and two rifles, broke in, and began to shoot, injured a 75yr old man, before being overpowered by others praying inside the mosque

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49308016

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Police say the suspect appears to have acted alone
A man has been arrested in Norway after a shooting inside a mosque left one person injured on Saturday.

Police say a gunman opened fire on the Al-Noor Islamic Centre, in the outskirts of the capital Oslo.

Later a woman was found dead at the house of the suspect, police said.

The suspect "is around 20 years old, a Norwegian citizen from the area," said assistant chief of police Rune Skjold, adding that the man was now suspected of murdering a relative.

"We consider this a suspicious death... The dead person is related to the man arrested earlier today," he said.

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Police say the man acted alone when he attacked the mosque.

The mosque's director told local media that the victim was a 75-year-old member of the congregation.

"One of our members has been shot by a white man with a helmet and uniform," Irfan Mushtaq told local newspaper Budstikka.

He later told local channel TV2 that the attacker had "carried two shotgun-like weapons and a pistol. He broke through a glass door and fired shots."

The gunman, who wore body armour, was overpowered by people at the mosque before police arrived at the scene, Mr Mushtaq added.

Police sources told public broadcaster NRK that several weapons were found inside the mosque, located in the town of Baerum, following the shooting.

The mosque had previously implemented extra security measures after a gunman killed 51 people at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, earlier this year, according to Reuters news agency.

Manic! 08-10-2019 08:38 PM

Amazing they stopped a shooter without the need of a good guy with a gun.

welfare 08-10-2019 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8956289)
A 20yr old guy killed someone at his home (a female details not revealed) then proceeded to a Mosque, outside of Oslo, was armed with at least one pistol, and two rifles, broke in, and began to shoot, injured a 75yr old man, before being overpowered by others praying inside the mosque

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49308016

One person dead (possibly related to him) and one injured. Suspect apprehended. And that story makes headlines across major outlets.
This is the past 24 hours in Chicago, yet almost no media coverage
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...533388211.html

Just another weekend

Manic! 08-10-2019 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8956300)
One person dead (possibly related to him) and one injured. Suspect apprehended. And that story makes headlines across major outlets.
This is the past 24 hours in Chicago, yet almost no media coverage
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...533388211.html

Just another weekend


it's Oslo Norway not the US. Shooting are a dime a dozen in the US.

Are you heading to Spokane anytime soon?

welfare 08-10-2019 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8956302)
it's Oslo Norway not the US. Shooting are a dime a dozen in the US.

I see. So the media prefer to focus on anomalies rather than mainstream problems.
Almost like they have the ability to make a less significant issue seem extreme and a major issue seem negligible Kappa

Bouncing Bettys 08-10-2019 11:42 PM

Steven Crowder isn't exactly my cup of tea (Mug Club reference), but he makes some decent points.

westopher 08-11-2019 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8956303)
I see. So the media prefer to focus on anomalies rather than mainstream problems.
Almost like they have the ability to make a less significant issue seem extreme and a major issue seem negligible Kappa

What do you take as a bigger threat to you, as to my knowledge, an average citizen.
Targeted violence and shootings, or mass shootings on random people in public places? I’m a lot more worried about my American friends being shot randomly at a car show or concert than some gang fight at 3am in downtown Chicago. Of course people are less interested in those incidents, as it’s less of a personal threat to an average American.


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