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Old 09-22-2020, 08:48 PM   #1
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2021 BMW M3 (G80) / M4 (G82) revealed

U.S. Specific Press Release:

The New 2021 BMW M3 Sedan and M4 Coupe

• New generation of M3 and M4.
• 473 hp core models (RWD, manual) and 503 hp Competition models (RWD or XDrive, automatic).
• MSRP starting at US$69,900 for the M3 and US$71,800 for the M4 plus $995 Destination.
• M xDrive to be available on Competition models starting summer 2021.
• Market launch set for March 2021.


Tons more info/pics at https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1759748.

I really don't like the hood line, and that front grill?
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Omg! That front grille is horrendous
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just what I wanted, F80 prices to rise.
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i think the sedan in that video actually looks great lol.
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No joke I get the same reaction looking at the new M3/4 front end as I do looking at those pics of holes in body parts - trypophobia.

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Ugly yes but the S58 is no joke. Simple down pipe, tune, E85 and you're looking at close to 800 hp.
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Terrible design language, what a shame this is the direction BMW is going in. Bunch of lines that lead to nowhere, none of the design elements are cohesive, just a mish mash of random shit.
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Truly looks like buckteeth...
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Terrible design language, what a shame this is the direction BMW is going in. Bunch of lines that lead to nowhere, none of the design elements are cohesive, just a mish mash of random shit.
Very well said. Took the words out of my mouth. New Kia's are looking better than recent BMW's. I truly hope they don't fuck up the next gen M2 because thats literally the only BMW that appeals to me.
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Very well said. Took the words out of my mouth. New Kia's are looking better than recent BMW's. I truly hope they don't fuck up the next gen M2 because thats literally the only BMW that appeals to me.
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Nice job ruining a vehicle that was once the benchmark for decades, BMW.

The E30, E36, E46, E92, and even F80 are rolling in their graves.
What a sad sad day.
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^ at least they kept the manual option...

How the eff is the M4 and M3 only 10lbs apart?

Did they intentionally make the M4 heavier so it wont have a performance advantage over the M3?

Yea... the fornt is... just... hopefully it will grow on me or looks better in person? I dunno.... and that 2 hood vents right after ..... not a fan...at all unfortunately...
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when the best looking bmw is called a toyota
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Ugly or not, this will turn heads. The M performance seats and the Isle of Man Green stands out really stand out. Maybe enthusiasts would like it better with the right after market support for this M3.

I like it and would own one. Maybe in a few years...and if it is a flop, even better for me. Lol.
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Which design was more criticized, this or the Bangle-butt era?

The bangle era design language started rocky but found its groove and produced some classic designs today:

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Bangle's designs are incorporated in the entire BMW lineup, including the BMW Z4, 1, 3, 5, 6 and 7 series as well as the X3, X5, and X6 the newest design SUVs, and the concept car Gina. These span the automotive platforms E81 / E82 / E87 / E88, E90 / E91 / E92 / E93, E60 / E61, E63 / E64, E65 / E66 and E53. During the Bangle era, BMW overtook Mercedes as the global leader in premium car sales.
What will we be saying about this 15 years from now?
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Acura beak, still dislike it 12 years later
R35 GT-R, still ugly after 13 years (but accepted due to its performance) and the snout grille became a trend
modern bmw aren’t supposed to be pretty (aggressive maybe) so I think the reaction is a bit over exaggerated
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As ugly as the Bangle cars were, they still had class and still gave an impression that it was a luxury brand. This gives the impression their cars are made for 16 year olds.
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Having a front plate actually makes this car nicer...
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Fully loaded M3 comp with CCB = $121,xxx
For that money, i'll go with the M5 with the V8.
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or c8 and keep the extra 35k
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It's a shame because I like those colours but black is the only hope of hiding the hideous styling "features".

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It did? I thought all of those were still ugly?
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new gt4
or c8 and keep the extra 35k
except some people actually need the back seats...

But yea.. at 120k...why not just M5 ...(I dont even think there are much add on for the M5... basically the "base" M5 is already a pretty loaded pkg...)


Hahaha, at the end of the day... Im not even close to the target market for these, no where near the income bracket so my 0.02 is irrelevant

Though... the E90/E92 m3 are now within grasp though hehehehe....
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was referring to the post above mine when spec'd with ceramics

i'm really digging the isle of mann green



much better than the acquired m3 tastes of the past: phoenix yellow and yas marina blue

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