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Old 06-18-2021, 04:09 PM   #26
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didn't honurs = basic scholarship based on # of years of honour roll?

where does the $ go and how do you get it?
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Old 06-18-2021, 06:40 PM   #27
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Bottom line......... the cream rises to the top.

There's always french immersion. My daughter wanted to enrol into Late French Immersion. She thanked me for lining up all night in freezing cold weather to get her in. She said, "Finally, I'm in a class where every student wants to learn and not fool around in class." IQ top 5%, she was always frustrated.

BTW, smart is not the same as gifted. Then, there's multiple intelligences studies/theories.

The love of learning - lifelong learning.

I took in a seminar given by a specialist in pedagogy. She was speaking to educators and parents about why gifted programmes are essential. We have special classes for people with disabilities. So much money and effort into those programmes. What about the other end of the spectrum? These gifted students are the ones who are going to save lives by inventing technologies, etc. Why are we letting them slip away by not supporting and understanding their needs? It was a powerful presentation. This was years ago. Gifted musicians, scientists, innovators, even athletes (actually, they get all the attention, but still gifted under multiple intelligences theories). So many gifted students hide their abilities so as not to stick out and draw unwanted attention. Anyway................... if the children are not supported by educators who really know what they're doing, it's a waste. Sadly, too many incompetent educators out there. I mean we have teachers who can't spell their way out of a hat. Or inspire kids let alone themselves. Nuff said.
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Meanwhile in the USA, if you can throw a ball hard or shoot hoops, they can't throw enough opportunity and help and money at you.
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For perspective, I reached out to a Diversity & Inclusion contact I have and they had the following points, which educated me a bit more on the situation and gave more context to VSB's logic:



However, that is nice in theory, not sure in reality if its realistic to put it into practice.
I don't know if that person actually teaches in a classroom, but I know many teaches and they tell me they teach to the average. They say it's difficult for the "gifted" students because they get bored.

You can't just give the gifted student a more difficult problem because you still have to show them how to solve it, you don't have time to spend time teaching those who aren't average.

Which is why they need to be challenged with a gifted program.
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Some kids have zero discipline even when parents put in a lot of effort to parent them, private school it (assuming you can afford $). But I hate the mindset where people that think private kids are more superior than public kids. Everyone going to graduate with that same degree etc. and fighting for that same job. It's like not since you are a 95% A+ student, we are going to hand you this job like candy vs. someone that is 75% B student.
I feel like there are a lot of assumptions in your comment.

How do we know, "parents put in a lot of effort"? and how do we know what type of effort they're putting in?

To simply assert some kids have zero discipline even when the parents put in a lot of work doesn't address if the discipline is the the right discipline or not.

I went to public school and a lot of my friends have made their way into teaching. The ones who are in the private schools always say the same thing. The support from the administration is always superior than public school. They also have more involvement with community and the parents. This is the common theme.
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I feel like there are a lot of assumptions in your comment.

How do we know, "parents put in a lot of effort"? and how do we know what type of effort they're putting in?

To simply assert some kids have zero discipline even when the parents put in a lot of work doesn't address if the discipline is the the right discipline or not.

I went to public school and a lot of my friends have made their way into teaching. The ones who are in the private schools always say the same thing. The support from the administration is always superior than public school. They also have more involvement with community and the parents. This is the common theme.
I didn't generalize ALL, but only said some kids. And the some based on those I know personally as friends that have had kids in private that have finished/or is in private now. Knowing them personally and speaking from their parenting experience. There are some that are just rowdy no matter what discipline you put them through LOL.

I feel the support comment you mention is superior only so because the parents are donating more $$$$$ back to the school. The teachers have to live up to the expectations as the parents are giving them the big bucks. It's like work, if I had a job that paid me the big bucks, I better work my ass above and beyond to live up to the expectations I am paid for vs. a regular low paying job where I just do my job and jet home on the dot.
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I think pay for private school teachers are below that of public school teachers. Teachers at private schools negotiate differently from public. Correct me if I’m wrong, please.
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They say it's difficult for the "gifted" students because they get bored.

Which is why they need to be challenged with a gifted program.
Depending on the configuration and size of the school, a “gifted” or “enrichment” class is possible. Prep driver. Works very well in a middle school model.
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I think that would depend on the school.
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People admire and vote for woke virtue-signaling politicians, then wonder why society is going full retard woke and virtue signaling. Let the smart ones figure out the rest - honour classes or not, they will succeed.
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People admire and vote for woke virtue-signaling politicians, then wonder why society is going full retard woke and virtue signaling. Let the smart ones figure out the rest - honour classes or not, they will succeed.
On the other end, you got politicians banning things like yoga and anything to do with sex.
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Wait hol' up. These kids don't have letter grades anymore?

I'm pretty sure they're cutting these programs to save money. They've been cost-cutting left right and center since the 2008 recession. They forced everyone in our grade to take pre-calculus because not enough people signed up for regular math.


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Same end. Go back to your cognitive dissonance where you revel in bias bliss.
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Following up to this, there is an opinion somewhat related to this thread in regards to opportunity and it touches on level/quality of education and hiring top talent. A good read, but keep in mind, this is an op-ed opinion piece.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/busi...hire-the-best/

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Saw some guy tweet about it today that this decision wasn't even based on any data.

Fucking VSB, they're just slowly trying to make public school less attractive so parents would put their kids in private.
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Saw some guy tweet about it today that this decision wasn't even based on any data.

Fucking VSB, they're just slowly trying to make public school less attractive so parents would put their kids in private.
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I don't know about the local "ivy league" private schools like St. George's or Crofton House.

But, I know that all Christian Private schools get paid about $5-7k less for the same experience.

In public school, starting is $51k at year 0 and $83k at year 10, 10 is the highest, after year 10 you are at maximum pay and you only get a raise if there is a new CBA.

In Christian private schools the starting is around $45k depending on the city. I'm not sure what the max is though.

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I didn't generalize ALL, but only said some kids. And the some based on those I know personally as friends that have had kids in private that have finished/or is in private now. Knowing them personally and speaking from their parenting experience. There are some that are just rowdy no matter what discipline you put them through LOL.

I feel the support comment you mention is superior only so because the parents are donating more $$$$$ back to the school. The teachers have to live up to the expectations as the parents are giving them the big bucks. It's like work, if I had a job that paid me the big bucks, I better work my ass above and beyond to live up to the expectations I am paid for vs. a regular low paying job where I just do my job and jet home on the dot.
I'm not sure the teachers in private school are better than public school teachers or that they even care more. I'm sure there are crappy teachers in both.

I think you're right that the support is greater because the parents are paying to have their kids in school so they feel more inclined to help out where they can. It seems like in private school on average, the community is better, might just be the type of people in that community.
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