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bcrdukes 10-11-2022 11:58 AM

lol i would have loved to see that from afar :lol

Gerbs 10-12-2022 12:29 PM

What do you guys think is the best way to make an additional $5 -30K a year?

- 2nd Job / Contractor
- Uber Driver
- Churning

SSM_DC5 10-12-2022 01:05 PM

Doing OT

GLOW 10-12-2022 01:51 PM

wut? who gets paid for OT? :law:










:okay:

bcrdukes 10-12-2022 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerbs (Post 9078320)
What do you guys think is the best way to make an additional $5 -30K a year?

- 2nd Job / Contractor
- Uber Driver
- Churning

Move back home

donk. 10-12-2022 03:48 PM

Depending what your income to spend ratio is, sometimes it's way more efficient to simply spend less, than earn more.

I would say this only applies to mid and upper class....

westopher 10-12-2022 04:42 PM

Fuck taking on a second job. Donk gave the right advice. Spend less. Find some free “or entry fee only” hobbies like biking, snowboarding (a pass at seymour is $400) skateboarding, soccer, hiking, etc.
If your job isn’t paying enough to live your lifestyle, cut costs, or get a higher paying job, but don’t add job.

GS8 10-12-2022 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerbs (Post 9078320)
What do you guys think is the best way to shorten my lifespan?

- 2nd Job / Contractor
- Uber Driver
- Churning

Fixed

RiceIntegraRS 10-12-2022 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerbs (Post 9078320)
What do you guys think is the best way to make an additional $5 -30K a year?

- 2nd Job / Contractor
- Uber Driver
- Churning

Find a job that pays u cash so u dont get taxed up the ass for making all that extra income.

TOS'd 10-12-2022 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerbs (Post 9078320)
What do you guys think is the best way to make an additional $5 -30K a year?

- 2nd Job / Contractor
- Uber Driver
- Churning

$5 is $5 :hotbaby:

EvoFire 10-13-2022 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TOS'd (Post 9078419)
$5 is $3 :hotbaby:

Corrected for you

sdubfid 10-13-2022 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerbs (Post 9078320)
What do you guys think is the best way to make an additional $5 -30K a year?

- 2nd Job / Contractor
- Uber Driver
- Churning

Invest in yourself to increase earning potential. Courses, books, podcasts etc. That’s the permanent solution without being a slave or taking home ketchup packets from McDonald’s.

As an example maybe a first aid ticket is $150. Convince employer to give $1 raise. $2000 per year extra every year from $150 investment.

AzNightmare 10-13-2022 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GLOW (Post 9078194)
i've been fairly lucky where i've worked in pretty nice places and worked with great people, so it's not guilt i feel, more sentimental

i always tried to do a proper handover where it was left in the best way possible so i have no guilt and be as professional as possible.

mind you i'm talking about office jobs in my career in a professional setting


Well the guilt is just from knowing you're going to put the team in a hole for a bit. I guess it always depends on the size of the firm, and how saturated the position is. Can someone just take over if they work OT? Is 2 or even 3 weeks going to be enough time to hire someone new? Then the time to train someone to get accustomed to the workflow, obviously that will take time as well.

Simply put, it's not my problem at the end of the day. But the smaller the firm, the tighter the group is, and most likely with the boss as well. And the people I work with are great and I like my boss.

In my case, it's not really burdening my coworkers, more so that they actually need to hire someone new to directly replace me. They recently hired some new staff, and I was hoping they could soften the blow by filling in my role, but their background experience isn't exactly the same as mine, so I can already tell, it's not happening...

As mentioned earlier, I was planning to drop the resignation news this week, but my boss hasn't been around due to meetings and I wanted to tell him directly, not through an email. I'm sure I'm overthinking it, and now I regret not trying harder to just get the news to him. Cause my boss just randomly gave me a call earlier today to also bump my salary just cause it's been a bit long overdue. My reaction must have been so weird.. cause I was more choked than happy, lol.. But fuck.. this timing... thanks, but still going to be making a lot more at the new place, but now quitting will just look like a slap in the face.

:seriously:

AzNightmare 10-13-2022 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GLOW (Post 9078326)
wut? who gets paid for OT? :law:










:okay:


Previous firm I worked at had infinite OT... in a sense.
Just put your hours in the timesheet and get paid, no management approval necessary. But it was only 1x pay all the way. (Not sure if that was even legal??)

It was addictive like a drug, especially for people in their 20's or 30's who needed the money and didn't have family commitments. Just grinded out 45-50 hrs a week and get paid. It didn't even seem that hard afterawhile cause you just see everybody else still in the office at 7pm. It became the norm and it felt awkward to walk out at 5pm when everyone else was still there. People became workaholics without even knowing it.

I felt like I had "PTSD" for a while after I left. My new jobs only gave me 37.5 or 40hrs a week, and I constantly felt like I wanted to do another 5-10 hrs a week cause I didn't feel like I was getting enough money.

Traum 10-13-2022 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AzNightmare (Post 9078459)
Previous firm I worked at had infinite OT... in a sense.
Just put your hours in the timesheet and get paid, no management approval necessary. But it was only 1x pay all the way. (Not sure if that was even legal??)

This is absolutely illegal, and I am surprised nobody called out the employer for doing this:

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/e...t-4-section-35
Quote:

35. (1) An employer must pay an employee overtime wages in accordance with section 40 if the employer requires, or directly or indirectly allows, the employee to work more than 8 hours a day or 40 hours a week.

(2) Subsection (1) does not apply for the purposes of an employee who is working under an averaging agreement under section 37.
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/e...t-4-section-40
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40. (1) An employer must pay an employee who works over 8 hours a day, and is not working under an averaging agreement under section 37,

(a) 1 1/2 times the employee's regular wage for the time over 8 hours, and

(b) double the employee's regular wage for any time over 12 hours.

GLOW 10-13-2022 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AzNightmare (Post 9078457)
Well the guilt is just from knowing you're going to put the team in a hole for a bit. I guess it always depends on the size of the firm, and how saturated the position is.

i hear you, when i took a promotion my old coworker who helped me a lot took on a whole lot more work in my absence (even though there was a backfill as I made it a point to take on half of a certain responsibility so he doesn't get dumped on) so i felt guilty leaving him, but at the same time i looked at it as a dept issue, i suggested how to fix it, but his dept managers i don't think are changing his work environment, so i don't think it would have mattered, 1 suffer or 2 FeelsBadMan

it sort of is what it is and work life moves on is how i see it

BIC_BAWS 10-14-2022 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 9078470)
This is absolutely illegal, and I am surprised nobody called out the employer for doing this:

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/e...t-4-section-35


https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/e...t-4-section-40

LOL my employer takes it one step further. We got forced to take it as banked hours. When we do OT now it's 1x rate AND it gets banked.

But what am I gonna do? Report them? Sue them? I kinda need the job to pay for my mortgage lol. Pretty much just bend over and take it.

smoothie. 10-14-2022 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BIC_BAWS (Post 9078557)
LOL my employer takes it one step further. We got forced to take it as banked hours. When we do OT now it's 1x rate AND it gets banked.

But what am I gonna do? Report them? Sue them? I kinda need the job to pay for my mortgage lol. Pretty much just bend over and take it.

are you working for scumbag IT?

Exclusions, High Technology Companies - Regulation Part 7, Section 37.8 was a big fuck you, so I left my old job, and then everyone else followed :fullofwin:

Tapioca 10-14-2022 03:59 PM

I'm surprised we're even talking about OT.

Most professional, white collar jobs are salaried. 50-60 hour weeks are not uncommon for many. Emails into the late hours of the evening are pretty standard.

My thought is that a combination of churning and volunteer work with respected community organizations (i.e. getting on boards) can help you increase your earnings.

SSM_DC5 10-14-2022 04:09 PM

I didn't know volunteering paid money

donk. 10-14-2022 04:17 PM

Anyone here on salary?

Care to chime in on the 40hr or 60hr work weeks as mentioned above?

rb 10-14-2022 04:41 PM

I was on salary. On-call 24/7 for emergencies and 50-60hr work weeks were the norm which is probably why my health is fucked up today

westopher 10-14-2022 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by donk. (Post 9078571)
Anyone here on salary?

Care to chime in on the 40hr or 60hr work weeks as mentioned above?

Salary here. Sometimes I work 60 hour weeks, sometimes I work 20 hour weeks.
At a certain point you need to be responsible for your own workaholism, address the fact you can't make things work under a 40 hour work week and either demand the tools you need to make it work, or leave. Unless you truly get paid well enough you believe massive work weeks are reasonable. Lots of places across all industries will take advantage of peoples drive and dangle the carrot. As you get older it becomes pretty easy to figure it out though.

Tapioca 10-14-2022 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SSM_DC5 (Post 9078570)
I didn't know volunteering paid money

It doesn't, but it broadens your network which looks good on the resume or can get your foot in the door for future opportunities.

AzNightmare 10-14-2022 10:33 PM

I couldn't imagine working salary and not getting paid for all the hours worked. I have a white collar office job that pays hourly (need to fill in a timesheet) and honestly when the day is slow, I'm not working very hard regardless or just killing time chatting with coworkers.

I guess the perk is salaried staff get to go home early, while hourly rate staff need to hang around the office and pretend to be working. My 37.5 hrs of pay per week is guaranteed regardless. OT is just bonus on top. But "flex" hours seem pretty common in my industry, it almost seems like it's just a better deal to be on hourly rate so that you have the option to get paid OT if you're going to get slammed with work.


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