Trans athlete in sports discussion (debate is mostly men trans to women sports). 2 openly gay female athletes with different opinions. Navratilova has been against trans women in women category sports. Rapinoe says bring it on.

there is something about this going on right now with a bike race called the belgian waffle ride. it just took place in BC last month and goes to several other cities around the world. a mtf rider won the female category which sparked debate.

now they put a new category, 'open', and made the mens and womens categories for biological men and women only.

From woman of the year to just some piece of trash who won't tow the line lol

You are right, it's a human right issue.

By forcing others to accept an idea/opinion they don't truly believe, that's human rights violation at its most basic level. Where is the right for those people? Why is it that we should respect the minorities and yet don't ask the minorities to return the favor?

Instead of pushing rights for this group, and rights for another group. Why can't we ask people, especially kids, to learn to respect others' differences, regardless of how different they might be physically, mentally, psychologically, religiously... etc.

Accept and embrace the differences. The idea is not to form a convergent type of thinking but rather cherish a divergent one. As long as one's decision is not against the law (the basic rule of society) and it's not causing harm/making others uncomfortable, fire away. Do anything you want.

But keep in mind, as you are expecting others to respect your decisions, you are also expected to respect others' decisions, even if it's completely opposite of yours.

How you can not manage to understand there's a difference between someone's beliefs on how they should live their own life, to your beliefs on how they should life their life is fucking mind boggling.
Disliking homophobia is not the same thing as disliking homosexuality for example.

I am out of word

Wait, so are white supremacists ok and we should embrace and respect their point of view because it's not against the law?

BrO iF YoU wANt AccePtaNce ItS A 2 WaY sTrEeT

I see that you guys are ok to have a higher expectation of a group of people in our population while expecting less of another.

Prejudice is a big part of discrimination if you think about it.

Worse, it seems that these extreme lefties are ok to accept some group of people being discriminative toward others as long as it fits their agenda.

I just read a note from a Jewish writer condemning Chinese-American for their support to the decision to abolish AA system. They had the audacity of claiming, and I quote: “Asians were only able to immigrate to the United States b/c Black civil rights leaders passed immigration reform.”

First, much of the early Chinese American population arrived in America through the building of railroads. They didn't mention one bit about all the discrimination against them. And think that Chinese Americans should thank the Black leaders for passing immigration reform. And saying that this is supporting the white supremacist.

By the same idea of "gratitude", should the African-American community thank all the original slave traders because that's how they got out of Africa in the first place?

Do you see how ridiculous these claims are? They never mention anything about the discrimination that other races face. They basically go just a step short of claiming Black people are some kind of saviour to Chinese population like Jesus/God/Allah/whatever you believe.

This is fucked up. The reason Chinese-American support abolishing AA is because it's usually in the Chinese family philosophy that education is important and spend a good share of their resources educating their kids. Of course they feel it's unfair to base university entry based on not a student's capability, but rather other merits like race, social group they are in... etc. We are not just talking about students who gets straight As from school. They do community works, they volunteer, they do team sport... and basically everything how to be a good citizen for the society.

And no. You ain't black, we don't care.

What message are we sending to our future generations? Instead of working hard for your future, be fucked up and claim that it's all the fault of other groups of people? There's never self-reflection and self-improvement. It's always other people's problem. Or worse... just telling them... oh, because you are not white... you can never achieve any greatness.

I don't know about you guys, but I surely wasn't raised that way and it's not something I'd ever tell my kids. If anything, my dad has always told me that we are immigrants. So we need to work harder than those native in order to have a chance at succeeding.

I'm not claiming that racism is ok. All I'm saying that, the only way to truly bring an equality in our society is to have a simple level of respect to everyone. Regardless what color you are, you can respect that other color exists. Regardless of what believe you are, you can respect that other believes exist. Regardless of what you wear, you can respect that other clothing option exist. Regardless of what/who you love, you can respect that others can love things/people that you are just not that into.

I don't know where in my post gave you that idea.

My idea is simple. It's great to be white/black/yellow/red... whatever. It's also ok to feel it's meh to be white/black/yellow/red... whatever. Those are opinions of one. As long as one respect that opinion from others, that's ok.

In other words, if you are white, and you like black chicks... good. If your friend is also white and doesn't like black chicks but instead prefer Asian, that's also good. There is no better or worse. No group of ethnicity is superior or inferior. Just different people with different opinions. And as long as they respect the decision of another, it's just that... personal preference.

The problem now is... they say White Supremacy is bad. And now somehow Black Supremacy is ok?!

I'm just saying... there is no supremacy or inferiority. Just humans.

You seem to be confusing peoples right to exist as a person with being forced to like them. But you do need to treat everyone equally. It's really not a very complicated concept.

The "right" to not want trans/gay/black/etc people to exist? That's not a right.

What favor? By "respecting" the wishes of bigots and dying?

ah yes, black supremacy, a real problem in the world today.

lol, hehe the type of guy to say "I'm not racist, I know black people!"

Imagine thinking people demanding you simply respect other people is somehow ramming ideology down your throat, but at the same time demanding people respect your favourite pastime of burning crosses while wearing a pointy mask.

Revscenes Ben Shapiro from wish.

Hehe sounds like my neighbor that likes to ear-beat me with his latest info from Rebel News when I run into him.

I'm not even sure what kind of argument Hehe is making, his understanding on the subject is so myopic that I don't even know where to start :lol

One should always have pride in whatever they are, I don't think anyone would make an argument against that. Historically speaking though, "White Supremacy" carries a very detailed and troublesome past if we're speaking to what it would traditionally represent, and the actions of those within that "sphere" have taken to push such an ideology. There is no such history attached the same way to the idea of "Black Supremacy".

But continue on with what philosophical mental gymnastics you're trying to attempt there, Benny Boy.

Does he tell you he's not a racist too? lol

These are the types that always tell you they "pulled themselves up from their bootstraps" or "I worked hard for where I am" for whatever reason even if it has nothing to do with the subject at hand but especially when talking about the poor or "lesser" races.

I've given up the idea of telling people how I've done it.

It's irrelevant as many do not have the skill, determination, opportunities... etc as I've had.

But just as the same way I won't give a fuck about how many of the well-off people in my parents generation telling me how to do things, because again, we have different skills, determinations and opportunities.

Nevertheless, I strongly believe in the idea that the only way for someone in some complicated if not downright nasty and harsh social environment to become better, whether it's socially, mentally or financially is through education, regardless what capacity the person have. Handouts never achieve anything if progress is not accountable.

The more they read and learn, the better they would be able to get control of their life and contribute to the society.

I'm actually in the process of starting my own non-profit organization with the help of my parents, even though my lawyer has told me that it's probably a good 2-3yrs before I get granted the status, to help children in need. I figured it's a decent way for my parents to make sure that their fortune would have a lasting impact on our society rather than just giving away to random organizations for them to give handouts.

It's going to concentrate its effort and resources on families with children with developmental disabilities. Many of the children with DD, they don't get enough/proper education because of lack of funding for the education they actually need. It's unlikely that my parents' wealth to cover everyone, but the idea is to do as much as we can.

Fuck that shit !!! Kids are stupid. Go start a non profit for car enthusiasts who want to buy golf Rs and do other things good too.

How do you think I'm going to fund my Ferrari? :troll::ilied:

Ummm... but this scenario involves money... and people profiting and gaining power, and people potentially losing their jobs and having a bad time cuz of that...

it's basically another form of corruption.

yes, i'd play along, cuz i wanna get paid, but i wouldnt agree with what is happening... well i agree with the money going into my pocket part LOL.

it literally is corruption. and you and your bosses are being corrupted.


much like most academic and other spaces have "equality/diversity" departments... and they get funding right... and if they expand their influence and power, and expand the department, they get MORE funding right? and then the heads of these departments get paid MORE right? and the money trickles down in their department... or not LOL. who's funding them? why do they keep increasing the funds? cuz they also get applauded when this department does well... and it would also be in their interests to "respect" their pronouns unless you want some kind of mutiny. money is involved.

it LITERALLY is a form of corruption. once money is involved, there are other motives. hell there might even be people against it but they push the agenda cuz they get paid more. CORRUPTION.

replace the word trans with politicians. LOL, it would be straight corruption wouldnt it? oh i dont wanna get fired or have to explain to my bosses why i said no... cuz they have a big account and move lots of money so i'll just play along...

it was a really bad example on your part to involve money.

if it didnt involve big commission type money, it would then just be a customer service job where u get paid to act and treat customers with respect... (cuz u want their money or don't wanna get fired still... hah...)

lol, outside of money and getting paid... you could treat them however you wanted within law.

one doesn't have to treat everyone in this world automatically with respect. unless it's some game theory shit where something is on the line or you stand to gain something out of it... then it's corruption LOL.

FYI i know trans people... and i respect some, and i dont respect others. I call some by their desired pronouns, and others i dont give a flying fuck. the difference is their agendas and how they push or dont push their identities on others... and how capable they are as a human being at various tasks. and yes some form of game theory or corruption that i can admit. i may or may not stand to gain or lose something with these people. where as the others i disrespect are pathetic individuals that i wouldn't save if all i had to do is lend a hand.

I literally just saw a Jordan Peterson tiktok that said what you just said. Bleh.

I think many other people above said "How about doing something to help someone else feel good/welcome/seen, is that so hard?"

That isn't commanding respect, it's just being proactively human toward others for no personal gain, which kind of sounds like the antithesis of corruption.

This whole tranny talk is starting to fall into the realm of Jewish space lasers causing fires in Maui for me..

Does E-SPEC own a tractor?

Tractor in an anti SOGI convoy on highway 1 in Surrey gets rolled over by police.

https://twitter.com/tMayor_McCheese/...030176373?s=20

https://twitter.com/TiktokScientist/...322523018?s=20

The crash

https://content.jwplatform.com/previews/N5X0iXrH

All these anti sogi people are idiots.