donk.'s Past Time Car Review Thread

[bcrdukes]

Oh, it's an Aisin gearbox? Toyota definitely had a say in this.

"This is how you improve your workflow and improve your cash flows." - Toyota

[EvoFire]

Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD

The engineers blew the GDP of Singapore on standard 4 piston brembos, Koni FSD shocks and EVO X style metal paddle shifters ... leaving $0 on noise insulation and a coffee break worth of suspension, powertrain tuning.

It bobs and dives over every bump and is so slow in normal mode that a 1.8L Corolla would gap it.

The Italian program team picks the worst trannys - dry clutch in 500X was also their fault.
Hard to find a transverse box that can do 400lbft torque - this one uses Aisin F21-250, same as V6 RAV4, Sienna, Jeep Renegade.

FWIW I thought the BMW FWD DCT was reasonable, Aisin 8 in BMW is good if you drive it hard, and the Acura 10 speed is great with the J series V6 but terrible with the turbo 4.

I'm surprised it bobs even with FSD, those are universially praised. But even considering those parts, it would maybe have costed them the GDP of Mali for spec them. It would hardly make on dent on the iterative development needed for a good tranny tune and drive modes. And that goes all the way back to not investing in good baseline settings as quite a few of their small car drivetrains or newly released drivetrains suffer. The big stuff is good it seems.

The BMW DCT was slow in my F56 but not to the realm of annoying. It is straight up annoying in the latest rendition I tried in the 24 X1. The 22 wasn't as bad, but BMW does change the tuning yoy. We had a MY19 X3, and a MY20 X3 tranny feels very different.

The Aisin8 I had experience with in the various Minis and old X1, it was slow and couldn't figure out which gear it's supposed to be in and constantly gets caught with it's pants down.

The Acura 10sp was in the RDX, it was mostly fine around town, but it has this HUGE lag if you are just rolling along and then getting on the gas. SG found the same issue with the MDX and he made half a video about it.

[AstulzerRZD]

I'm surprised it bobs even with FSD, those are universially praised. But even considering those parts, it would maybe have costed them the GDP of Mali for spec them. It would hardly make on dent on the iterative development needed for a good tranny tune and drive modes. And that goes all the way back to not investing in good baseline settings as quite a few of their small car drivetrains or newly released drivetrains suffer. The big stuff is good it seems.

It's cuz it's a Jeep Renegade with a big battery and brembos.
4100 lbs (800 more than CRV), 3-4 inch shorter wheelbase than CR-V, geometry is probably a lot less favorable too.

The Aisin8 I had experience with in the various Minis and old X1, it was slow and couldn't figure out which gear it's supposed to be in and constantly gets caught with it's pants down.

Heard. I only drove them in rentals so it was full throttle everywhere.

The Acura 10sp was in the RDX, it was mostly fine around town, but it has this HUGE lag if you are just rolling along and then getting on the gas. SG found the same issue with the MDX and he made half a video about it.

That's terrible. I drove it in Odyssey where I was often mid throttle or higher. The downshifts were pretty aggressive and quick when i rolled onto the gas.

[EvoFire]

The rental car life. Most of my drives were in Richmond inching along in traffic. Very difference use cases.

[AstulzerRZD]

I think the driving pattern is sometimes just really different.
CRV or my mom’s RAV4 will see redline daily in Seattle to keep up with rush hour traffic.

Nothing like an 8 lane merge from 520 to I5 Mercer exit in under a mile… or an uphill onramp followed by 2 lane changes thru exiting traffic to merge onto I5.

[Badhobz]

You should try a base model corolla LE. Best car ever !

[EvoFire]

Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD

I think the driving pattern is sometimes just really different.
CRV or my mom’s RAV4 will see redline daily in Seattle to keep up with rush hour traffic.

Nothing like an 8 lane merge from 520 to I5 Mercer exit in under a mile… or an uphill onramp followed by 2 lane changes thru exiting traffic to merge onto I5.

Yeah some of those interchanges and cross overs in and around Seattle and Bellevue are HUGE killers. I had rev the piss out of the X3 to cross 4 lanes of traffic. It was the same in San Diego and the Velar we had was worse. At least San Diego isn't as hectic as Seattle.

[AstulzerRZD]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

You should try a base model corolla LE. Best car ever !

The last gen CVT, steering, headlights were a lot better than the 9G Civic.

I've roasted the front brakes on one till the pads were dripping down the hubcaps because my flight was 3 hours earlier than I thought it was.

Markham Road to YYZ was 25 minutes at 4PM that day.

[Badhobz]

YOU LYING SACK OF SHIT. you've never driven a corolla in your life have you!?!? HAVE YOU!?!!!?!?! last gen rolla? heh....

Only true corolla retards know dis.

Question 1!!!

HOW would you rate its seats

1) Paper thin
2) nicely bolstered
3) Plush like a cadillac

Question 2!!!!

How were the LED lighting for incoming traffic

1) nicely calibrated
2) blinding
3) too low, cant see fucking shit

Question 3!!!!

Did the bitch ass ratrolla engine sound

1) droney
2) heavenly
3) like a tin can rattling inside another tin can being pushed down a flight of stairs

RATROLLA BOSS LEVEL QUESTION!!!!

What trim was the only proper trim to buy a corolla in

1) NightShade
2) Apex
3) LE + comfort package

[bcrdukes]

Roasting the brakes in a Corolla?

[AstulzerRZD]

HOW would you rate its seats

1) Paper thin
Spent more time looking for the fucking hubcap I lost in blue mountain than in the seat.
2) nicely bolstered
3) Plush like a cadillac

Question 2!!!!
How were the LED lighting for incoming traffic

1) nicely calibrated
2) blinding
3) too low, cant see fucking shit

Question 3!!!!
Did the bitch ass ratrolla engine sound

1) droney
2) heavenly
3) like a tin can rattling inside another tin can being pushed down a flight of stairs

RATROLLA BOSS LEVEL QUESTION!!!!
What trim was the only proper trim to buy a corolla in

1) NightShade
2) Apex
3) LE + comfort package
Who tf buys the upper trim corolla? It still has the 1.8.
You get all the driver assist in the lower trim and the only thing you're missing is color instrument panel screen.

RATROLLA BOSS LEVEL QUESTION FOR COROLLA POSEURS!!!!
What OEM tires were offered for CANADIAN market refresh model from 17-19

- Firestone FT140
- Primary MXV4
- Turanza EL400-02
- Dunlop SP5000
- ContiProContact
- Goodyear Eagle LS-2
- Firestone FR710

[roastpuff]

Originally Posted by bcrdukes

Oh, it's an Aisin gearbox? Toyota definitely had a say in this.

"This is how you improve your workflow and improve your cash flows." - Toyota

You get Kaizen! You get Kaizen! Everyone gets Kaizen!

[AstulzerRZD]

Originally Posted by bcrdukes

Roasting the brakes in a Corolla?

140kmh braking down to 20kmh a few times in 401 traffic will do that

[Badhobz]

Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD

HOW would you rate its seats

1) Paper thin
Spent more time looking for the fucking hubcap I lost in blue mountain than in the seat.
2) nicely bolstered
3) Plush like a cadillac

Question 2!!!!
How were the LED lighting for incoming traffic

1) nicely calibrated
2) blinding
3) too low, cant see fucking shit

Question 3!!!!
Did the bitch ass ratrolla engine sound

1) droney
2) heavenly
3) like a tin can rattling inside another tin can being pushed down a flight of stairs

RATROLLA BOSS LEVEL QUESTION!!!!
What trim was the only proper trim to buy a corolla in

1) NightShade
2) Apex
3) LE + comfort package
Who tf buys the upper trim corolla? It still has the 1.8.
You get all the driver assist in the lower trim and the only thing you're missing is color instrument panel screen.

RATROLLA BOSS LEVEL QUESTION FOR COROLLA POSEURS!!!!
What OEM tires were offered for CANADIAN market refresh model from 17-19

- Firestone FT140
- Primary MXV4
- Turanza EL400-02
- Dunlop SP5000
- ContiProContact
- Goodyear Eagle LS-2
- Firestone FR710

Holy shit!!!! That’s all correct. You are my adopted son now.

Uhhh tire choices….. I had a fucking Corolla during these years and I didn’t even bother looking at the tires. I wanna say the cheapest shit like a Firestone or a turanza Bridgestone

[EvoFire]

EL400-2

[AstulzerRZD]

Canadians got the garbage Bridgestones or the MXV4.
Firestones were US spec.
Dunlop and Goodyears were previous gen tire.

I spent a fair bit of time at TMM-C during those years

[AstulzerRZD]

Originally Posted by EvoFire

EL400-2

Yes or the MXV4s.

Northern US distributors and Canadian FRS/BRZ/86s sometimes shipped with EL400-02 instead of the Primacy HP summer tires.

[EvoFire]

They've been using EL400 since before 2010. Garbage tires, worse than Flintstones, no grip when dry, no grip when wet, they do go on forever and ever and ever though

[Badhobz]

I think I drove them during the winter snow and it was okay. The guy who crashed his is300 into a tree borrowed the ratrolla during that winter and didn’t die (or hit a tree)

[roastpuff]

The similar era Civic came with the FT140s. What a garbage tire.

[AstulzerRZD]

It was a good day when your Zipcar Corolla had the MXV4 and the Civic had the Kinergy GTs.
Getting Ecopia EP422s on a Golf or Jetta was like winning the lottery.

[bcrdukes]

Interesting.

When we bought our Corolla, the stock tire was the Ecopia EP422.

[AstulzerRZD]

You have the 17s on iM which were Ecopia or the SP5000

[RabidRat]

Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD

The last gen CVT, steering, headlights were a lot better than the 9G Civic.

I've roasted the front brakes on one till the pads were dripping down the hubcaps because my flight was 3 hours earlier than I thought it was.

Markham Road to YYZ was 25 minutes at 4PM that day.

LOL I've done the exact same thing, for the exact same reason, down the exact same highway.

[bcrdukes]

Not exactly my own car, but I just came back from LA with a 4 day rental of a 2024 Kia Forte (trim unknown.)

Basic - 10/10
Boring - 10/10
Handling - 10/10

Throttle control is a bit interesting. I can't tell if this was the GT trim with the turbo, but I highly doubt it. Every movement of the throttle pedal felt like there was a huge lag before the car gets going. That, or there really is no torque. However, when I get going from a highway entry, it picks up speed quickly almost uncontrollably.

Surprisingly, the trunk was massive. It fit two large suitcases and a few extra back packs and other stuff. As for the infotainment system, it works and it has its weird quirks like with Apple CarPlay. The system works but when you use features like navigation, the voice will either be super loud or super quiet. There was no way to adjust it. The other WTF quirk was when you go into Reverse, it shows the rear camera. But once you put it into Drive, it get stuck on it for a while before switching back to CarPlay or the infotainment system.

Otherwise, it's a basic car with basic features and basic build. Would I buy one myself? Absolutely not. But if someone just needed a car and didn't care about anything other than fill it up with gas and drive? Yes. Is it for Revscene? Probably not.

10/10