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All I have to say is, if you have to give credit to where it's due, I'm still somewhat in disbelief that Trump got this done. Even if this is all he got done, the return of the 20 living hostages, and all the remains of the dead ones for what 1800 Palestinian prisoner exchange ... that's a pretty big deal. No one else was able to.
Whether the peace deal will last or not , we shall see. The children of this gen of Palestinians will grow up with some deep hate on the Israelies. One Battle after Another says, it will come back in another shape and form.
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... I told her I understood nothing she said and preferred she speak to me in Cantonese. She called me a racist.
and even though I was more or less expecting it, seeing it still left a pretty strong impact.
Perhaps Hamas is really at the end of their wits in Gaza right now, so they are really quite close to having no viable options left? And their leaders are getting murdered even when they are outside of Gaza -- in Qatar, for example.
I continue to have zero trust in Netanyahu, and I remain very skeptical the ceasefire will last. The way I look at it is -- Netanyahu saw a good opportunity to get the hostages back, so he seized it. It was as much for his own good as it was for him to do Trump a favour (in agreeing to a ceasefire).
We will see whether the ceasefire lasts.
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Israel is already being accused of withholding aid. Hamas beheading “traitors” publicly. War will be back on within the week.
The civilians want peace. Those in power aren’t interested.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
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Under the ceasefire deal, Israel has freed some doctors, nurses and paramedics seized during raids on hospitals in Gaza, but other high-profile medical figures remain missing.
All this talk about hostages and no one seems to mention the amount of Palestinians that Israel has taken as hostages over the last decade under the guise of “law and order.”
People who have been imprisoned indefinitely without any sort of trial or legal proceeding.
Hamas is a terrorist organization, that much I believe, but it’s time to label the IDF as the same thing. The only difference is they are provided weaponry by the US instead of Iran.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Originally Posted by punkwax
Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
All I have to say is, if you have to give credit to where it's due, I'm still somewhat in disbelief that Trump got this done. Even if this is all he got done, the return of the 20 living hostages, and all the remains of the dead ones for what 1800 Palestinian prisoner exchange ... that's a pretty big deal. No one else was able to.
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All this talk about hostages and no one seems to mention the amount of Palestinians that Israel has taken as hostages over the last decade under the guise of “law and order.”
People who have been imprisoned indefinitely without any sort of trial or legal proceeding.
Hamas is a terrorist organization, that much I believe, but it’s time to label the IDF as the same thing. The only difference is they are provided weaponry by the US instead of Iran.
I noticed the massive discrepancy right away when they released some of the terms of the hostage/prisoner exchange.
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There has been a notable gap in the language used by media on how they portray Israelis compared to Palestinians. The “less than” approach when using empathetic language for Palestinian victims of violence has been dehumanizing in even the most left leaning mainstream media channels.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
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Tell me again who the victims of terrorism are.
Maybe this article will help you, bro.
"Canada listed Hamas as a terrorist entity under the Criminal Code in November 2002. It is a criminal offence to knowingly participate in or contribute to any activity of Hamas. Canada has also listed the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, the al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades and other groups as terrorist organizations under Canadian legislation, in accordance with UN Security Council Resolution 1373 (2001). The Government of Canada has no contact with these groups."
Jesus, you people can't even take the good news of returning hostages/prisoners and cease fire in stride?
They're killing each other -
They've stopping killing each other for a few days -
I can only hope these are the first steps towards a lasting state when we can all collectively go back to ignoring whatever it is the fuck these savages do to each other again.