[RAYClovis]

I'm sure that if I gain any muscles, I'd finally catch up to the biggest guys on my team on OC. Currently pretty much my technique and tenacity is the only reason why I'm not dead last in term of paddling ability. XD Yay for being a 125 pounder.

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I'd like to think that my light weight means the other guys need to pull less deadweight. XD I am lighter than some of the girls on my team, but at least I'm not the only under 130 pounder guys. (We've got a couple.) Hence the 'lightweight' label that we regularly get.

Oh, I'm available tomorrow evening for OCing if you have time. I'm already missing the water. :(

[xXDragonXx]

We have three 125lb guys on our team =p and all of them raced the semis and the final. We sat out our most physically strong person though (my brother) but he's not the best paddler though due to the fact that he's brand spanking new, joined the season half way, and has a lot of bad habits... he's the guy that u'll see who is constantly lifting logs, doing chin ups and reverse push ups.

[RAYClovis]

You know, we need to get the 125 pound Anthony on an OC and see how he fares. I need some competition from another lightweight guy. Currently having all the faster OC paddlers on Magnum being a good 50 to 70 pounds more muscles than me makes me wish I can build muscles faster.

[xXDragonXx]

Can't wait for the next time trials.. cause you'll see :] Anyways, time to nap before work =P

Loving my new paddle bag, can't stop looking at it haha

[RAYClovis]

Speaking of which, Brad said anything about the next time trial yet? I haven't heard of it for a long, long time.

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Alright then. :) I usually arrive at FCCC by 5:30~6pm so I can rig it up quickly and leave before the dock gets too crowded. IIRC some OC programs usually paddle around that time and FCRCC paddlers like to OC at that time too, so hopefully there'll be enough surfrigger/C-Lion available.

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[K-Dub]

Now for Kelowna!

[ricky026]

he's the guy that u'll see who is constantly lifting logs, doing chin ups and reverse push ups.

Dont forget about those huge rocks that he's been lifting =D

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[RAYClovis]

But isn't the kanaha the stand up paddle?

Nevermind. Checked it out. I'm LittleSchrodinger over at DBW, so I'm up for it.

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[RAYClovis]

A demo paddle? I'd love to demo it too. Let me borrow it after you've given it a few strokes.

[TracerFX]

That's the one thing that would put me off joining FCRCC one day, not making the A team and having to be in the B team.

Thats why most WW guys are on WW for that same reason. It may not be true but it seems to me as if it wouldn't really feel like family to me. You could have guy A, D, F and Z on the team for like a couple of months, then on the next time trials, boom they're gone to B or C lol (my perception anyways)

I notice that's one of the usernames of one of your guys on DBW.

That's me LOL, I'm the one who stirs up shit when its warranted.

Drop Them B**ches is a good call to use too.

DTB! DTB! DTB! hahaha, kinda close to DTP :D

Can't wait for the next time trials..
I'm so there! :thumbsup:

Let me borrow it after you've given it a few strokes.

Out of context sounds hilarious :haha:

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It's also the reason why I'm still with Magnum for the mixed team. Practicing with FCRCC Men really gave me idea of how much work is involved in getting into the racing teams with FCRCC. (And I mean a LOT.) <_< As awesome as it would be to be racing worlds, CCC, and whatnot, it takes insane dedication and a dose of raw talent/muscle. Just ask your coaches!

Didn't WW went to a Canadan Crew Club race before or something? I'm hoping Magnum would attend those events one day as well and be able to race with the top teams. Of course, there's always financial/commitment issues and the good ol' "Race for medal or experience" debate.

[xXDragonXx]

It's also the reason why I'm still with Magnum for the mixed team. Practicing with FCRCC Men really gave me idea of how much work is involved in getting into the racing teams with FCRCC. (And I mean a LOT.) <_< As awesome as it would be to be racing worlds, CCC, and whatnot, it takes insane dedication and a dose of raw talent/muscle. Just ask your coaches!

Didn't WW went to a Canadan Crew Club race before or something? I'm hoping Magnum would attend those events one day as well and be able to race with the top teams. Of course, there's always financial/commitment issues and the good ol' "Race for medal or experience" debate.

Yes without warning did participate in crew club race before. The only reason why Without warning may not seem so dominant this year is because they've chosen to take it easy this season + that they lost a lot of paddlers to FCRCC through the years. Let's not forget, during the past 2 years they did beat Gorging in Victoria to win Victoria, won San Fran, and won Whistler. Also, a lot of guys on the current FCRCC B team are not necessarily on it because they're slower than the members on the A team, but more so because of time and financial reasons. Other than Alcan and *requirement* races such as Whistler and Harrison for nationals this year, the B team members still get to race in the majority of other local races such as dash and the fcrcc regatta (so far this season).

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I was gonna say......maybe Magnum guys should be coaching WW now ;)

As well as we've performed, and even through our finish at Alcan (which is the highest a dragon hearts team has placed (and Without Warning is associated with Dragon Hearts)) we still have a lot to learn from our coaches from Without Warning. As well, I feel we just gel better as a team, but individually, Without Warning paddlers are just as good or better (like our coaches in this example). But I don't see anyone surpassing the wisdom of our head coach Brad any time soon, who is from Master's of Dzone. We still have a lot to learn and improve on, but it just shows, the pupils can outdo the teachers at any moment :thumbsup:... and sometimes, that results in coaches owing ayce sushi to their paddlers... but we students have learned to be humble and respectful to not force them to pay for all our meals haha

[RAYClovis]

Well said, Sherry. I'd like to emphasize on the individual point; I'm sure that right now our coaches will kick our sorry butts on individual paddling abilities. (Painfully obvious on OC1s) We just have our stroke's tendency to go for insanely high rates and our ability to hang on (only so barely) going for us in DB races.

[sho_bc]

That's me LOL, I'm the one who stirs up shit when its warranted.


Glad to hear someone has taken over from me. I haven't posted much on there in years. Its changed so much since I first joined and since they tried to silence me. ("colossus")

I will probably be on the water already if you guys are going out around 9. Jacob knows what I look like.

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[sho_bc]

take it easy on me.... i'm trying to keep a cold at bay here.


oh, and don't fall in. ;)

[sho_bc]

And..... time for me to go to bed. have fun on the water!

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Hmm. That could take a while, but we'll see how it goes.

Let's all look ahead to Whistler instead. :D We'll be getting STIFF competitions in the form of FCRCC A, Sudden Impact Black Nationals (Alcan SiB + some ringers, who may or may not be from FCRCC B from what I've heard), Pemberton Eagles, and Pac Reach 2. It won't be easy for the comp teams.

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Hmm....maybe I should get a wooden OC paddle like the Mudbrook XP

If I get a CF DB paddle next year, it might be a good idea to train with a heavier paddle in an OC to maintain shoulder strength

[RAYClovis]

We started practicing at 10:30am or so on Sunday. Maybe we passed each other without noticing it. :) It's not a bad idea to get a wooden paddle either, as it'll be much cheaper and whatnot, but it still will feel different. For your shoulder strength, just hit the gym. :P Sometimes we just gotta go with the popularity, so don't give Kialoa the colde shoulder yet; I know that some of my teammates would rather to have Kialoa. (One of them want to consider the OC6 steering paddle, which Quickblade doesn't have.)

I wouldn't count out Pemberton in the competition for the second place, as they'll be pretty much home on the fresh water unlike us False Creek teams. We're going to be racing with a newer, lighter, but less-experienced caller, so we'll have to see how it affects the race since we usually tend to be one of the most easily distracted teams. (Okay, so I'm easily distracted.)

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[sho_bc]

in the past, Pac reach 2 was ....not so competitive.

I skipped out on sunday because i went to bed at whatever time i wrote my last post here. jetlag blows. I'll be out friday afternoon/evening some time, saturday at some point, and sunday at some point. probably monday at some point too. hopefully by then this head cold will be gone.

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I'm thinking about making OC a regular thing on Friday evenings and Sunday mornings so maybe I'll see ya next week

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fuck the gym, I'm going today :D

[RAYClovis]

Damn, you're hardcore.

[TracerFX]

True, but I have the feeling I'd want to go do world championships, club crew championships, nationals, etc one day. WW doesn't go up to that sort of level right?

Mini-drama between FCRCC and Kai now, tsk tsk :p

As Terry points out, yea they did. So its achievable, albeit perhaps not as consistently as FCRCC doing it year in year out kinda thing. I for one would like Magnum's chance for the nationals next year in the west coast (Vancouver seems to be the most likeliest venue, which means lots of comp teams are going to give that a crack)

It wasnt even me that started it haha. The guy defending Kai doesnt even know what he's talking abt, gets his ass handed to him by PaddleBoy and then says he wants to start over and quote sportsmanship after his lame attempt at a subtle bs remarks :haha::haha:

I'm sure that right now our coaches will kick our sorry butts on individual paddling abilities. (Painfully obvious on OC1s)

Our head coach Brad, He is INSANE on surfrigger. He's faster than our fastest paddlers by a LONGGGG shot...and he's 50! :eek:

Glad to hear someone has taken over from me. I haven't posted much on there in years. Its changed so much since I first joined and since they tried to silence me. ("colossus")


hahaha I'll make you proud :D

I dunno about Pemberton but at least they can't use their super turn on you ;)

Turn or no turn, I think their caller's butt dangling in mid air over the water would distract our boat enough to get an advantage LOL

in the past, Pac reach 2 was ....not so competitive.

I take it because they are called Pacific Reach # 2? 2nd best? or 2nd iteration? hahah

I'm thinking about making OC a regular thing on Friday evenings and Sunday mornings so maybe I'll see ya next week

Soon enough this thread will be the "DB discussion/OC1 meet up board" hehe

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Yeah, I was there. You passed me three times while I was stretching. :P

[TracerFX]

I think perhaps he was able to notice you pass 3 times cause you were shirtless? jk :haha: :haha:

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How many of you guys went to Whistler? Some pretty good racing on the weekend!

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I was with Richie Bros over the weekend, we got 2nd in Div B Consolation and probably their fastest time ever. Nice to see them ecstatic about it, they're a fun company

Who were you with?

One Apparel has pics up already on their facebook page

I'm with Starbucks Waverunners. We ended up 2nd in Div A consolation.

That's awesome that they got one of their fastest times yesterday. It's a great confidence booster for sure! I'm sure the slight tailwind yesterday helped too. :)

[RAYClovis]

Thanks! Indeed, it was a damn close finish there. Although, I wasn't paddling on Sunday due to me being injured at the 500m on Saturday, but it was good to see that my team managed without me. Pac Reach was quite ahead of us (from the shoreline's perspective), so we managed to catch up to them for the gutsiest final I've seen my team pull off.

Here's the finish line photo of the A final, not including FCRCC since they're so damn fast. http://i44.tinypic.com/2947684.jpg

Damn close? Damn right.

Also, it's great that you were able to help a team achieve a fastest time, Illuminate. :D see, 2nd in Div A consolation it's bad. :D I'm sure we all had a blast.

[syee]

The FCRCC folks are nuts. I just watch in awe at how they can just blow past each and every team out there like they're taking a leisurely paddle on the lake. :D

Our canopy was up next to theirs and it was interesting listening to them talk about after the obstacle course race about what their strategy was for that race...those guys mean serious business!

Any of you guys catch the boat that flipped during the obstacle race? Apparently, I heard the other boat bumped them into the pontoon out there. I was surprised nobody got hurt there...dock on one side, other boat on the other.

[RAYClovis]

They didn't bump into the pontoon. The boat that capsized was turning when the other boat trying to turn bumped into them and flipped them *away* from the pontoon. The entire Draggin' Dragon went for a very short swim to the pontoon.

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[syee]

They didn't bump into the pontoon. The boat that capsized was turning when the other boat trying to turn bumped into them and flipped them *away* from the pontoon. The entire Draggin' Dragon went for a very short swim to the pontoon.

Oh, gotcha. Makes sense. I was kinda wondering how if they got bumped into the dock that they would manage to flip (if other boat was on one side and pontoon was on the other). I was talking to one of the guys from Draggin Dragons when they got back to shore and he just mentioned their boat got bumped into the pontoon by the other boat). They took their drummer/caller for a dip afterwards after their last race because he apparently had the foresight to jump onto the pontoon before it flipped and didn't get wet. :D

I didn't see it happen, but just saw all the WE volunteers go grab their cameras and looked up to see a boat upside down.

[RAYClovis]

Indeed, their drummer had the sense to keep his mask and cap dry. I missed the actual capsize myself as well. One second I see them fighting for room, looked away, and looked back to see the drummer posing on the pontoon while his team swam. It was quite convenient, since it made capsizing recovery, bailing the boat out, and getting back on a hell lot easier than being in the middle of the lake.

[xXDragonXx]

I saw Dragon Hearts had two teams in OC6 before this year, DH Mars and Mercury right?

Those teams were formed by Magnum on a strictly fun basis. This was for the March Madness OC6 race a couple weeks after we started going on OC6, and we went out on them another 5-6 times after that. But I believe we'll be practicing on OC6's again soon so i am looking forward to that :D

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No, I don't think so. You just need to make sure that you have OC6's available.

[TracerFX]

Do you have to pay extra to be able to go to the Burrard marina and use OC6's?

If I recall correctly, you just have to be a member of FCRCC (the club not the team), and have booked the sessions in advance.

FCRCC was like the only team without a tent lol. I saw them practice passing a jug of water back and forth. So serious lol.

I'm tempted to go to Abbotsford to check out a Kialoa or ZRE for OC since so many ppl recommend Kialoa.

Don't you know that they drink while paddling most times? that's why that move is practiced religiously, its the single most important part of their race strategy, which is hydrate, hydrate, hydrate! Your team would do well to follow that route. I know Magnum has trouble in that area sometimes...just last practice, instead of the bottle being passed, it was corn! :haha::haha: (inside joke)

Our steers just recently decided to go for Kialoa instead and might i say it looks pretty :D

I'm finally back in FC, so now I can actually see who I'm talking to (Illuminate) lol. A few of us are going to OC tomm (fri) at 10 am, if anyone wants to join?

I had the pleasure of a royal dunkage my first day back to practice, from 6-8 big guys out of the alder bay dock once we were done practice. Utilized my MMA style gorilla hug onto our captain for a good minute to take him with me but got my limbs pried away, which then led to flailing away like a salmon out of water wildly grabbing at at least 2-3 guy's feet before i was overpowered, swung like a rag doll 3 times and flung to the icy cold and unreasonably dirty false creek waters. The moral to this story is to be wary when your captain says to you 'group hug' while a bunch of other guys converge from behind you...lesson learned LOL

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Yep, lack of water and exposure to sun is killer on race day. Nalgene FTW! :D

wow, that is cheap..hope its in good condition still..you better get it b4 its snatched up.

We're changing it up on Sunday, not the usual db practice anymore, its going to be OC1 at 10:15 and OC6 at 12. Regardless, we would still see your shirtless self :haha:

LOL, its not that bad actually...we tend to dunk on false creek waters, call it a tradition or what not. Denis has been dunked countless times there, I was dunked on my bday and somehow I'm dunked on my gf's bday too (got pulled in)...Its all good fun :thumbsup:

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[RAYClovis]

Started to take physio 3x a week now. Hopefully I'll be back paddling shortly after Harrison. I'm definitely sitting it out unless some miracles (or steroid) happen.

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[RAYClovis]

It's a back to leg wide injury, affects my left side. (My racing side.)

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could be a spinal problem if it goes down that far, have you seen a doctor or went straight to physio?

[RAYClovis]

Went straight to physio.

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Noticed WW got first in the VOS short course race (though with a Men's vs Mixed and women's teams). I need to try that or March madness next year

[tool001]

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Illuminate, whats ur name

[RAYClovis]

It's mostly muscle, fortunately. Also, I'd love to participate in more OC6 and OC1 events myself as well, just for the sake of paddling. :)

[xXDragonXx]

Illuminate, whats ur name

Jacob Babalo ;)

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Illuminate, whats ur name

hurray, another RGL haha

[TracerFX]

feel too crowded with all the Magnums here? :haha:

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not really, just the more the merrier. though I'd like to see ppl from a wider range of teams, and with old stories to tell :)

[RAYClovis]

I think by now we have enough to fill a 10-person dragonboat that they're apparently getting next year. :lol

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10 person dboats are cool...mini sized haha

Alex has yellow fever...:thumbsup:

[sho_bc]

My supervisor (who is the ex-wife of Vincent Lo, who used to build the Six-sixteens)

She's your supervisor? she probably won't know who you're talking about out of context, but tell her I said hi. :D

P.S, Alex, if you're still around, I have heard claims that you used to make out with random asian girls at clubs LOL

:angel: (though not always random - they would occasionally be targeted)

Alex has yellow fever...:thumbsup:

Well, when you walk into a club and have a choice of asian or asian, I would tend to chose asian. ;)

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The LO family was really big in the now disfunct Dragon Boat Association (the dock in the middle of False Creek). Jason used to paddle for Synergy and then FODB, but they were the main distributer of anything grey owl if I could remember correctly... Got my first paddle from them, a high performance wooden paddle =]. Good times on those 6-16s and Millenniums.

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BAHAHAHA SHE TOLD ME STORIES ABOUT YOU

Then my supervisor said "I can't believe he's a cop, he's freaky" and "stay away from that guy" LOLOLOL


with old stories to tell :)

Do tell... :D

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Very tempted to say "busted", but she does exaggerate ever so slightly. However, you'll hear the exact same stories from the old-school RGL guys, so who knows.... maybe there is some truth to them. :evil

[hEllraZr1208]

Seeing as I grew up with the Lo family... and know Alex fairly well I find this all very funny. What I want to know is who the hell you other guys are really just out of curiosity. Illuminate? xXDragonXx? Tracer_FX? pm me

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haha alright, well one time when Alex was over at my supervisor/Jason's house for Christmas dinner, and he'd be macking on some asian girl and they'd start making out or something. And my supervisor would be like "omg wtf, hello, I'm the parent here, wanna get a room?" Then next thing you know, Alex would be broken up with said asian girl. Then when my supervisor saw him again he'd do the exact same thing! And my supervisor would be like "wtf...."

Very tempted to say "busted", but she does exaggerate ever so slightly. However, you'll hear the exact same stories from the old-school RGL guys, so who knows.... maybe there is some truth to them. :evil

Either way, sounds like Alex was/still is a genuine ladies man...We'd do well to follow in his footsteps :haha:

Seeing as I grew up with the Lo family... and know Alex fairly well I find this all very funny. What I want to know is who the hell you other guys are really just out of curiosity. Illuminate? xXDragonXx? Tracer_FX? pm me

You wouldn't know even if I told you, my only connection is with Mary

Same here, ppl who knows me call me Tony, though I highly doubt you've heard of me, I dont even know Mary, I just know these guys...Met Alex a couple of times through friends, Illuminate from the net (Internet stalker lol), xXDragonXx from same team.

Speaking of...I've yet to see your shirtless mug Illuminate...I'll have to get someone to point u out one day haha

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Some might say that I still am, but these days its in a monogamous way. ;) All those stories are from several years ago.

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Generally speaking, a good estimate would be from Taiwanese Boat dock just barely east of the Cambie Bridge to past the first DZ pier, but to make sure, just go from the DB start line to the finish line all the way past the pillars at Science World. :)

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You forgot Master of D'Zone. Also I see a team called Fusion Without Warning, huh. Also, Burnaby Fire Fighters are back. (They didn't do bad last time around.)

So yeah, it's going to be a nailbiting final to watch. (Outside of the first place anyway.)

8D Enjoy your beach volleyball.

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Of course! During all the time I've been racing in Harrison I haven't had much chances to enjoy the food over there. Four races in a day doesn't give you a lot of time to line up and savour the food. :D That, and mainly to cheer my team on.

[syee]

You guys will have fun this Saturday, FCRCC, SIB, Roli, Pac Reach are all going. They should really split the Harrison festival to two days, 4 races in one day is a bit much

That and I heard there's going to be 63 teams participating...going to be along day...

[RAYClovis]

57 teams in total.

[xXDragonXx]

I am worried more than usual though.. with all the injuries and illnesses we have... it`ll be fun to see us pull through (I myself had pneumonia and was pretty much out last week =()

[RAYClovis]

Terry, you still owe me money.

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(I myself had pneumonia and was pretty much out last week =()
stop dunking each other lol

[TracerFX]

Were you with the rest of Magnum OCing on Wednesday?
No, wed is my paddling off days.

They should really split the Harrison festival to two days, 4 races in one day is a bit much

It sounds like a bit much, but i remember times last year where there was a lot of time in between races, enough for frisbees, frolicking in the water, and general horsing around :thumbsup:

stop dunking each other lol

:haha::haha:

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I'm pretty sure you can. Ask the FCRCC Outrigger program people.

[TracerFX]

I do believe its available as well.

haha, yeah i saw michelle's posting on dbwest, some of the responses were hilarious

RGL going to Last Gasp/ Kelowna?

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[RAYClovis]

DH Breaker's a new rec team from Dragon Hearts, our blanket organization. :)

And yes, those two weeks are going to be real frantic, but some of us are taking that as an excuse to skip Last Gasp. (I'd love to go.)

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[RAYClovis]

Absolutely no idea. I'm assuming Denis did some background mafia work.

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Ah, that's Andrew Sugi, he hulis pretty much every single time he goes out. Those K1 can't be recovered midwater. :P

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We're going to do Kelowna. I heard you guys were doing San Fran, I'm jealous lol. That's one week after Kelowna though so those two weeks are going to be frantic. You guys will be representing Canada, so keep that in mind and tear it up ;)

Oh yeah, I heard you guys are making a certain girl do mandatory OC sessions, that's pretty rough lol

Mandatory OC sessions because she needs work on her technique (1st year paddler), and OC1 is best for practicing technique.

I dont know abt JetStart, but Masters might not go since they are lacking paddlers, so we'll represent alright! :thumbsup:

We had some roster issues ourselves since the SF race is expensive and not everyone can afford the CAD$ 800-1000 for the trip

Wow, I still remember Beat having trouble getting ppl on the boat at the beginning of the season. Where you'd get these ppl from lol

Beginning of the season are always like that as that's typical of the Beat. They almost always do pick up tons of paddlers midway through the season.
Sometimes so much so that it warrants a whole new team. Making the Beat our mid - high rec team...think SI Black, Blue, Liquid Silver or FCRCC A, B, C, etc haha

I believe the current Dragon Hearts family consists of:
1) Magnum
2) Beat
3) Breakers
4) Goju-Go
5) WW

One BIG happy family :haha:

Speaking of Denis, I was coming back from OCing yesterday and I saw Denis about to go out on a kayak along with your steers guy. I was like "err....don't you guys have practice"
Then when I was taking apart the boat, your steers huli'ed and couldn't really get back in the boat so he was kinda hugging the boat and paddle and slowly swimming it back to the dock lol. I looked at him and he looked at me, but I couldn't do anything to help him. I see a lot of ppl huli on the kayaks, I hope they're getting some kinda introductory sessions first

Ah, that's Andrew Sugi, he hulis pretty much every single time he goes out. Those K1 can't be recovered midwater. :P

So you were there? I was the guy that came down to talk to Denis while our steer were swimming back to dock.

Hugging the boat makes for less effort in swimming back to the dock. If he didn't huli close to the dock, the typical proc is to swim to the rocks (if you have socks to prevent barnacles from cutting up ur feet) and drain the K1 and get back on it from the rocks.

Our steer and Denis are actually pretty decent on the K1, they only normally huli when sitting on the more advanced K1 (Tiger, Triton, Lancer)
I myself huli'ed 6 times the first time I took out the Laser :haha: and didnt have my socks on, so on several occasions I found myself swimming from the the 150-200m mark back to dock...that's 5+ mins of swimming :haha::haha:

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I dont know abt JetStart, but Masters might not go since they are lacking paddlers, so we'll represent alright! :thumbsup:


Oh yeah, I heard Masters is going to Shanghai for an expo thing. I know Jeff Chen from FCRCC is going to Shanghai

[RAYClovis]

Haha, I'm having my parents fund Magnum only because they're actually capable of winning races and they're my team. :D I'm sure we'll have a couple of spare seats for you if you're serious about heading down to SF, since we're losing some paddlers after Harrison. ;)

Also, Sunday's the day I've penciled down as my official return to paddling on an OC. Yay!

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[sho_bc]

Anyone interested in going to an RGL fundraiser at Pop Opera on Aug 2? Ridiculously Good Looking girls guaranteed ;) Alex, time for a comeback lol

Are you trying to bait me or something? If you've learned anything from the stories, you'd know that if I went, I'd be single by the end of the night.... in the bad way. :(

Besides, I'm working. ;)

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[sho_bc]

Hm.... no promises. Don't drink and drive, and you'll be sure that I won't get you for it. ;)

[xXDragonXx]

Yeah, I think I'd be serious about going, let me know when you've penned down your roster. If I had to practice with you guys that would be rough doing both Magnum and RGL practices lol

I think I'm going at 8 or 9 am on Sunday. Last week I went at 9 and all the C-lions were gone (damn WW lol) so that's why I might go early

Well we're still looking for some serious, comp paddlers to go to San Fran with us cause we're looking to TAKE IT ALL! :D:D But we don't have a full roster yet but it'll work out if you go to Magnum practices cause we practice on the days RGL has off... It just means you probably won't get to go on OC a lot, but you'll be dbing 5-6 times a week haha :thumbsup:

[TracerFX]

Haha, she said she liked OC at first but now she hates it. It's weird how we have one sister and you have the other. She said our coach rejected her but I highly doubt that lol.

I went back down to pick up my water bottle and paddle as both of them came back into the dock. Didn't notice you though, you didn't see a shirtless guy there? (besides your steer haha)

What? wait...now, I'm not sure who you are talking abt lol
Which one are you talking abt? and who is the sister?

Yeah, I didnt notice you either coz I started my convo w/ Denis the moment I came down. besides, two shirtless guys was one too many :haha:

Oh yeah, I heard Masters is going to Shanghai for an expo thing. I know Jeff Chen from FCRCC is going to Shanghai

I believe it was 4 from masters and 2 from FCRCC, Im not sure abt the rest of the 10 man crew.

Haha, I'm having my parents fund Magnum only because they're actually capable of winning races and they're my team. :D

that sounds so bad, you better hope there's no Beat paddlers here hahaha

Well we're still looking for some serious, comp paddlers to go to San Fran with us cause we're looking to TAKE IT ALL! :D:D But we don't have a full roster yet but it'll work out if you go to Magnum practices cause we practice on the days RGL has off... It just means you probably won't get to go on OC a lot, but you'll be dbing 5-6 times a week haha :thumbsup:

Less OC = Magnum DB prac = Max Rapage @ SF :thumbsup:
I believe we're also getting some SI Black Paddlers come on board. We'll know by this weekend.

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[TracerFX]

Oh hahah, nah..not picking, more like wanting them to improve to better themselves..besides, our coach is hard on them like every one of us who had something to improve on once, once you get better, he gets off your case abt it :D

That's pretty funny though, how come they got separated? what's the story on the supposed 'rejection'?

Yea SIB is still going to Montreal, but all that hoopla is ending by August, one whole month b4 SF, So I'm guessing those SIB paddlers are itching for more competition.

:haha: at least it'll be equal proportion of big dudes all around...Asian, White and Brown...I'm starting to sound awfully close to Russell Peter's latest stand up special :haha:

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[RAYClovis]

Haha, yeah, having two coaches on you can be tough at times speaking from experience. You shouldn't have to worry too much as long as you make it clear where your allegiance lies in and keep your paddling style fluid. Feel free to book some practices with us when you're sure you'll make the trip to SF, but then again I'm not sure how many SiB we'll bring with us if they do paddle with us. All I know is that we do have some room to on the boat after Kelowna.

[RacePace]

Do you guys usually have a full boat in practices?

SiB will have a tough time practicing with you guys since they practice in Cultus lake. Oh yeah, I just remembered they are also doing the Police and Fireman games, crazy guys.

[RAYClovis]

Actually, not the entire SiB will be doing Police and Fireman, just the police and fireman paddlers. <_< But yea, they're pretty enthusiatic in races. (I really wish Magnum would do Last Gasp, but it looks like it's not happening thanks to 'we should rest for Kelowna and SF') So I'll probably look for another team for Last Gasp if I feel like doing it.

Usually we field 16-18 people in a normal practice, and likely that number after Harrison since certain slackers have a tendency to skip practices or people are out on vacations. It's usually when races are close that we consistently fill the boat, but even when it's too full, a few of us will just take OCs. And yeah, working with SiB will definitely take some work on their side, but I'm sure they expect that.

[RacePace]

Oh yeah, do you guys plan to fly there or road trip it? I'd have to figure how many vacations days I'd have to take

[RAYClovis]

All over the place. Most of us have our own schedule as to SF. Some of us are staying an entire week, some of fly in on Friday and GTFB on Monday. I'm a Thursday to Monday flier.

[RacePace]

Actually, not the entire SiB will be doing Police and Fireman, just the police and fireman paddlers. <_< But yea, they're pretty enthusiatic in races. (I really wish Magnum would do Last Gasp, but it looks like it's not happening thanks to 'we should rest for Kelowna and SF') So I'll probably look for another team for Last Gasp if I feel like doing it.

Usually we field 16-18 people in a normal practice, and likely that number after Harrison since certain slackers have a tendency to skip practices or people are out on vacations. It's usually when races are close that we consistently fill the boat, but even when it's too full, a few of us will just take OCs. And yeah, working with SiB will definitely take some work on their side, but I'm sure they expect that.

Eye of the dragon is doing Last Gasp and emailed us to get more ppl, maybe you should go with them.

I have the capacity to seriously practice with you all the time from now to SF lol, but I dunno, maybe after RGL goes to Victoria should I really do twice a week practices with you guys. And I'd actually have to get on the boat and not OC just to blend.

Damn, just realized there'd be a lot to plan lol

[RAYClovis]

Yeah, it is a lot to plan. You should email Denis and let him know you're interested in going to SF with us and book yourself a seat.

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[RAYClovis]

Oh, if you're going to renew your passport, you should renew it within the first week of August the latest. :o

[sho_bc]

Actually, not the entire SiB will be doing Police and Fireman, just the police and fireman paddlers.

I'm paddling with the Sudden Impact guys (and gals) at the WPFG. I think I'm the only cop on the crew, the rest are corrections and sheriffs. We're trying to team up with the Burnaby Firefighter men's crew to field a men's 20 team, but I haven't heard anything on that yet.

We've got a mixed 10s, mixed 20s and men's 10s. Apparently I'm on the roster for all three. No clue how we're going to fit all those races into 1 day with pre-lims, semis and finals for each. Going to be EXHAUSTED by the end of the day and I won't even be able to go enjoy a beer garden, as I've got to work the next day.

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[RAYClovis]

I'm paddling with the Sudden Impact guys (and gals) at the WPFG. I think I'm the only cop on the crew, the rest are corrections and sheriffs.


Pardon my wording, I should have said, 'law enforcement people'. :D But yeah, Burnaby Firefighter's showing up at Harrison, and I expect them to do well based on their fitness alone. (They did pretty well in False Creek regatta) If the men's merger goes through, it's going be quite the stacked team. :P

[RAYClovis]

Well, that was quite an unfortunate turn of event at Harrison, with the thundershower rolling in and cancelling the A final after Magnum started the qualifiers with dismal performances. Even though we edged out the second-highest seeded team (SIB) in the semifinal, it doesn't look like we'll be getting a medal since both Pac Reach and Master managed faster semifinal time with False Creek between them.

We'll be hungrier then ever for the future races, so yeah.

[xXDragonXx]

Well, that was quite an unfortunate turn of event at Harrison, with the thundershower rolling in and cancelling the A final after Magnum started the qualifiers with dismal performances. Even though we edged out the second-highest seeded team (SIB) in the semifinal, it doesn't look like we'll be getting a medal since both Pac Reach and Master managed faster semifinal time with False Creek between them.

We'll be hungrier then ever for the future races, so yeah.

Yeah, but we still came 1st in all our races. And we have a tendency of having dismal first races (or at least not up to our expectations/standards). There could be many reasons to us having slower accumulative times than other teams... but when it comes down to it, as we've proven today and with the 5-6 other festivals/regattas we've raced in... when we're thrown together with the teams that we were were suppose to race in the A final... (which were pretty similar for the last two Water Edge events too)... we've pulled through and have came out victorious (with the exception of FCRCC). For both dash and whistler, we were ranked 4th or so until the semis and in the finals, we got 2nd overall. And we all know the weather was crazy throughout the day today, so a time in one heat... can be drastically different 2-3 heats down the line. To add as well... we were in Lane 3 for the final heat which is technically predicted to come "2nd". But either way, we probably won't end up in medal contention due to the unforeseen circumstances. It's really unfortunate we didn't get to race our final race... I was expecting a tight, final encounter with these teams as the majority of them won't be participating in the festivals that we'll be going too. But thats part of racing, and other festivals have ended in similar fashion.

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[RAYClovis]

We raced something like 2:08. FCRCC's 2:00. I've been having thoughts that our tendency to practice in late evenings + late night activities is one of our downfall for morning races for a long time. We've always had to drag ourselves through the mornings, and this morning's races really show. This is one of the situation where pulling off a dramatic push for medals fell flat involuntarily.

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[RAYClovis]

Actually, SIB seemed to be an exception. They pulled a 50 second 200m in the second heat of the day, faster than the third seed by two full seconds. Then 2:09 in the first 500m, and finally 2:10 in the semifinal against us. So yeah.

And fuck, Terry, I forgot to collect the money from you. You better bring it to me tomorrow.

[TracerFX]

SiB will have a tough time practicing with you guys since they practice in Cultus lake.

The ones that are interested in coming with us to SF will be coming down to FC and practicing with us, which says something abt their commitment level.

All over the place. Most of us have our own schedule as to SF. Some of us are staying an entire week, some of fly in on Friday and GTFB on Monday. I'm a Thursday to Monday flier.

Some of us are flying straight from vanc, while me and bunch of others are driving down to seattle and catching a flight from seatac down to SF. my group is goin from thurs to wed.


We've got a mixed 10s, mixed 20s and men's 10s. Apparently I'm on the roster for all three. No clue how we're going to fit all those races into 1 day with pre-lims, semis and finals for each. Going to be EXHAUSTED by the end of the day and I won't even be able to go enjoy a beer garden, as I've got to work the next day.

man..9 races in one day? that IS exhausting...I'll be volunteering for that event, so hopefully it'll be a fun day :thumbsup:

[RacePace]

Do you guys all have paddle bags to take your paddles with you to SF btw?

[sho_bc]

Its all about the hard-exterior rifle cases for air-travel http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/5/SportsRec/1/Hunting/FirearmSecurityProtection/PRD~0755669P/Double%2BGun%2BCase.jsp

[syee]

We used a snowboard bag with some bubble wrap and/or foam wrap around each end when we went to SFlast year. We were able to pack almost 10 paddles in the bag. :D

None of them were damaged in transit so it held up pretty well.

[RacePace]

Its all about the hard-exterior rifle cases for air-travel http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/5/SportsRec/1/Hunting/FirearmSecurityProtection/PRD~0755669P/Double%2BGun%2BCase.jsp

lol really? you would think security would have a problem seeing something like that

[sho_bc]

Its checked luggage and they xray it. I also have "dragon boat paddle" written on both sides of the case.

[RAYClovis]

Yeah, SiB are extremely committed and classy bunch of paddlers. It's been great to have a rivalry with them. :)

Its checked luggage and they xray it. I also have "dragon boat paddle" written on both sides of the case.

How many paddles can you fit in one of those?

[sho_bc]

with the padding that comes in it, only 2 or 3, but if you modified/changed the padding, probably quite a few.

[RacePace]

Looking at the Harrison times.....Red Fusion's really improved, and Team Vortex beat your time in the Semi's Magnum haha. And if placed in the same heat, Pac Reach and Masters would've blown by both you and SIB o_O

[RAYClovis]

FCRCC was sandwiched between Pac and Masters at their semifinal, and didn't really pull ahead until somewhere halfway, basically pulling the other two teams along for a good distance. (Even we've done it when FCRCC was right next to us.) <_<

[RacePace]

I don't wash riding makes up 5 seconds lol. DH Beat has also really improved, and what has happened to VO2 Max, even though they won the semi, that is a pretty slow time for them. Beat would've smoked the Comp D champions....

[TracerFX]

Both Red Fusion and Team Vortex did improve, but its not advisable to compare time in diff heats because the winds were really erratic that day, plus running starts and or hampered starts

In terms of Pac Reach and Masters, they were wash riding, a paddler in the team indicated so, which is logically correct if you look at the times, because statistically throughout the season, all other teams has been at least 6-9 seconds behind FCRCC. (and from personal exp, 5 seconds is feasible for wash riding, intentionally or not.)

Not to take away anything from the Beat, because they are our sister team and they got so much better this year, the tailwind helped a bit. With that said, they'll be like Magnum last year :haha:

[xXDragonXx]

Looking at the Harrison times.....Red Fusion's really improved, and Team Vortex beat your time in the Semi's Magnum haha. And if placed in the same heat, Pac Reach and Masters would've blown by both you and SIB o_O

Wave washing does actually drastically increase a boat's time =P And you have to think tidal conditions too... Harrison's wave conditions just kept varying back and forth with the extreme winds there (the mere fact that the race ended in storm + lightning shows indication that the weather was fluctuating there... there were some points where it was super sunny, other points where it was gloomy as hell) ... some heats had running starts, some had the regular normal starts, etc,etc. Vortex may have beaten our time in the semis, but when we raced them head to head the race earlier... we beat them.. so that's another indication that you can't compare times between heats, especially in a venue like harrison where the tidal conditions are nuts. And another note about that... their whole semi was faster than our whole semi. Not saying that Masters or Pac Reach aren't capable of getting times of 2:04, but when we've raced them in numerous occasions this season, it's always been a close race between us and masters/pac reach/sudden impact (never to the point where there is 5-6 second difference between the teams, otherwise it'd probably warrant that the teams would be in a different division). And it was clear that masters and pac reach were wave washing in that semi... paddlers on Masters even admitted that they could tell they were gaining speed from FCRCC's wake. And red fusion has really improved, but we also have to remember that there were 6-8 Without Warning paddlers on there too (Remember, they were called Fusion Without Warning in the race grid before the race)

And to add to it... since this festival was based on time accumulation.. going into the Semis, Sudden Impact had the 2nd fastest accumulated time, whereas Magnum had the 4th fastest accumulated time. However, we were still able to beat Sudden Impact in our semis, so time solely isn't a great indicator.

[TracerFX]

In any case, things would be cleared up if they decide on having a race-off with the teams in contention of the WE's prize money.

DEATHMATCH! :D :thumbsup:

[RacePace]

speaking of the prize money, does 2nd, 3rd, 4th get anything or is it just whoever has the most points?

[xXDragonXx]

There's prize money for the top three teams overall in the waters edge challenge. But there's a bit of a controversy because we didn't get to race a final race in harrison to really settle things... And harrison is weighted heavier than dash or whistler because it has more teams... But in all honesty, they should be weighted equally because the top four teams in contention for the money right now are fcrcc, magnum, pac reach and sudden impact... and each of those teams have been in every final and the top four has been those four teams too, with the exception of whistler where laoyam bumped pac reach and sudden impact to 4th and 5th respectively. But its pretty much the same final in dash, whistler and harrison, with dash and whistler having similar results in the final.

[RacePace]

They should probably just lower the weight on Harrison if they want to keep the results based on time. You guys have probably secured 2nd though

[xXDragonXx]

Based on what we heard, pac reach's 3rd, 4th, and "2nd" might accumulate more points than our 2nd, 2nd, "4th" because of the size of harrison being 58 teams, and the other two being close to 40ish teams (im not too sure about it, I have to double check but I'm on my fone right now) ... But even then, I thought we secured 2nd overall unless we came like 5th or 6th and pac reach beat fcrcc or something.

[Tapioca]

I'll chime in here with my two cents...

It's too bad we didn't get to race in that final. We probably won't get another opportunity like that again, at least not this year.

WW was worried about us using part of their name (their sponsorship is tied to results), so we had to make a last minute change. However, we basically ended up where they would have been anyway (they may have had a better lane position had they had the other 2/3s of their crew.)

[xXDragonXx]

You guys are doing great regardless! Its great to see young teams like you guys, riptide, vortex, raceface etc. moving up in the ranks, and giving the veteran teams a run for their money. Cause we're the future of db!

[Tapioca]

You guys are doing great regardless! Its great to see young teams like you guys, riptide, vortex, raceface etc. moving up in the ranks, and giving the veteran teams a run for their money. Cause we're the future of db!

Haha, we're not young guys - most of us are in our mid to late-20s. I think you can say that about Riptide and Raceface, though. :)

[TracerFX]

Cause we're the future of db!

Damn right! watch out False Creek fogies! We're coming to get cha! :haha::haha:

[TracerFX]

Haha, we're not young guys - most of us are in our mid to late-20s. I think you can say that about Riptide and Raceface, though. :)

Still young compared to the 30-40s hehe

[RacePace]

Damn right! watch out False Creek fogies! We're coming to get cha! :haha::haha:

I heard they're trying to get younger blood into FCRCC (B in particular) but they just won't retire lol

[TracerFX]

They'll only retire when they start to not be able to cut it in the time trials to stay on A and gets shuffled to B and then C and then D and then F and G and so on and so on.. (I'm exaggerating of course...maybe)

[RacePace]

Maybe they are just waiting to become a grand dragon lol. They should really make the B team more enticing to be on like entering more races, and should've went to the Nationals this year.

[xXDragonXx]

Yeah, they're definitely trying to get young blood... graham and mo came up to Magnum to try to recruit us to their men's team and potentially their mixed team.

[RacePace]

think you guys would want to someday?

[RAYClovis]

To be frank, I would've go for the Mixed, if it wasn't for the lack of races for the B team. (They can't fill a second Mixed boat consistently, at all.) Unlike Magnum who has way too much time on their hands and races just about everything that comes along. So damnit, I want to do Last Gasp. :(

Also, I agree that Harrison's weight should be lowered if it's going to be used to determined the overall prize money. I'm extremely pissed off that we got the shaft out of a medal because of a single storm, but out of cash prize? Sorry, but speaking as someone closely related to the team sponsor, I'm going to be adamant about it.

[TracerFX]

They should really make the B team more enticing to be on like entering more races, and should've went to the Nationals this year.

lol yeah, number of races attendance issues aside, no one likes to be on a team with a name like FCRCC B. In ppl's mind, you weren't good enough to be on A. (regardless of the fact that maybe you are on B because you cant make the time commitment).

At the very least, It should be like what they did this year (kind of), with naming the teams FCRCC Worlds or etc. The naming can also act as the intention of the team. FCRCC Worlds, FCRCC Nationals, etc.

They might want to be a little bit more transparent in their race agenda if they want to recruit younger paddlers. Perhaps announce at the end of the current season or start of the next season which races they intend to participate in for both A, B and C? etc. This to better inform ppl rather than have them think "practice hard all season long and end up on B and only racing 2-3 races...etc".

think you guys would want to someday?

Maybe 3-5 years down the road or when craving more competitiveness than what's currently available.. :D

[RAYClovis]

Illuminate, but if you feel like it and isn't afraid of the possible stigma of being on two teams at once, you can always try out FCRCC practices during offseason. They usually let you paddle with them offseason for free. It's a good chance to get to know to them. Derek likely will accompany you if he's still interested in it.

[xXDragonXx]

To be frank, I would've go for the Mixed, if it wasn't for the lack of races for the B team. (They can't fill a second Mixed boat consistently, at all.) Unlike Magnum who has way too much time on their hands and races just about everything that comes along. So damnit, I want to do Last Gasp. :(

Also, I agree that Harrison's weight should be lowered if it's going to be used to determined the overall prize money. I'm extremely pissed off that we got the shaft out of a medal because of a single storm, but out of cash prize? Sorry, but speaking as someone closely related to the team sponsor, I'm going to be adamant about it.

Well just finished my two hour shift (was suppose to be 6 hours =p)

LOL you make it sound like we have no social life outside the boat :joy.. I can attest that a lot of us do we have lives outside dragonboat, it's only that we all love dragonboat so much that we wouldn't mind occupying our time with races. =p

Are you coming back to practice today Clovis?

And i'm sure every comp paddler at one point considers FCRCC, but I believe that your perspective towards paddling changes once you get onto a FCRCC mixed team... it becomes more of a life style than a passion, and you have to devote a large part of your life during that period to staying at the edge of competition.. and i'm sure there are some forms of politics that are involved when you enter that high of a level in any sport.

[RAYClovis]

No, I've got family dinner tonight, so no practice tonight. I'll be tagging along on an OC on Thursday though.

I've already devoted a large amount of my time toward paddling anyway, and yes, I am one of the very sad example of having no real social life outside of certain activities. Politics are unavoidable everywhere you go anyway, so I don't really mind it. Beside, your idea that someone's perspective change on a FCRCC mixed team, it certainly didn't happen certain paddlers. Some people had paddling as a part of their lifestyle anyway, with and without FCRCC name attached to them, so it's really up to the individual. For me, it's about improving myself and hoping to push myself to the limit. I'm hoping to be able to go to the Worlds as a primary paddler, regardless of team. (So damnit, we should train Magnum to gun for the Worlds!)

Probably in two years I'll be good enough to hitch a ride on the U23 team. :D

[xXDragonXx]

No, I've got family dinner tonight, so no practice tonight. I'll be tagging along on an OC on Thursday though.

I've already devoted a large amount of my time toward paddling anyway, and yes, I am one of the very sad example of having no real social life outside of certain activities. Politics are unavoidable everywhere you go anyway, so I don't really mind it. Beside, your idea that someone's perspective change on a FCRCC mixed team, it certainly didn't happen certain paddlers. Some people had paddling as a part of their lifestyle anyway, with and without FCRCC name attached to them, so it's really up to the individual. For me, it's about improving myself and hoping to push myself to the limit. I'm hoping to be able to go to the Worlds as a primary paddler, regardless of team. (So damnit, we should train Magnum to gun for the Worlds!)

Probably in two years I'll be good enough to hitch a ride on the U23 team. :D

I'm sure that if Magnum stuck together for another two years... got better individually and as a team... grew stronger both physically and mentally... and no egos/personal agendas got in the way... we might become the TD Thunder of our generation =P

[RAYClovis]

Yeah, although it IS a big call to have the team stay together after two years when a lot of us will be graduating university during those times.

[xXDragonXx]

Yeah, although it IS a big call to have the team stay together after two years when a lot of us will be graduating university during those times.

=[ Dragon Hearts Beat anyone? :D

[RAYClovis]

:|

[RacePace]

Yeah you younger guys need to be careful of burning out, especially at the rate you're going at. But if you did manage to keep everyone together and motivated, the sky's the limit. CCWC in Macau? :D

Masters of D'zone are an example of ppl continuing to paddle for many many many years at a very high level


Anyone ever experience when they're out in the OC and all of a sudden everything gets a lot lighter, and your muscles move your arm forward like it's on a sling (more so on my left). It's incredible and my speed just explodes, and I'm not particularly slow to begin with. It's happened twice now and both times when I was making a turn after Burrard bridge, in sprint mode to avoid boat traffic.

[RAYClovis]

Well, my recovery style has always moved my arm forward like it's on a sling. You probably just rode the incoming tide back in. XD

[RacePace]

haha, nah, my big 22 oz wooden paddle suddenly becomes weightless. It's weird. The first time, I found a group of the FCRCC women and decided to catch them and blew by one (even though she had a db paddle),and caught the others. They're women, but still beastly women :D

[TracerFX]

I'm sure that if Magnum stuck together for another two years... got better individually and as a team... grew stronger both physically and mentally... and no egos/personal agendas got in the way... we might become the TD Thunder of our generation =P

FOSHO FOSHO...:thumbsup:
Yeah you younger guys need to be careful of burning out, especially at the rate you're going at. But if you did manage to keep everyone together and motivated, the sky's the limit. CCWC in Macau? :D

Masters of D'zone are an example of ppl continuing to paddle for many many many years at a very high level


Anyone ever experience when they're out in the OC and all of a sudden everything gets a lot lighter, and your muscles move your arm forward like it's on a sling (more so on my left). It's incredible and my speed just explodes, and I'm not particularly slow to begin with. It's happened twice now and both times when I was making a turn after Burrard bridge, in sprint mode to avoid boat traffic.

lol, we're not that young anymore coz at least 40-50% of the team are above 25, we even got Terry's Brother who's 30+ :D

Perhaps you felt this more on your left because you are more confident that you wont huli, as opposed to on the right side. In any case, it's called paddling your most efficient rate. It's the point where the OC rises above the water/wave and glides after your stroke, and you hang enough that when you take the next stroke before the OC sinks back in the water, giving you water with less resistance, more pull, more distance, faster speed. When you are paddling with that rate, you would have the feeling that you can go on forever.

[RAYClovis]

Hey Tony, you still feel like doing Last Gasp? If so, still trying to convince Magnum or going to join another team?

[~Shibikku~]

you would have the feeling that you can go on forever.

chyea until you look up and realize that you still have another 4k to go on your 5k time trial XD

[RacePace]

lol, you magnum guys just keep coming outta no where

[xXDragonXx]

Hey Tony, you still feel like doing Last Gasp? If so, still trying to convince Magnum or going to join another team?

Haha we were talking about posting a thread on DBW

"10 Magnum Paddlers looking for teams for Last Gasp"

but other than that, there's a lot of interest but only half the team wants to do it because we've done so many races this year.

[RacePace]

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[RAYClovis]

Haha, true. Count me in for Last Gasp.

[RacePace]

have you guys got accomodations sorted out for San Fran yet btw? Noticed the sponsoring Marriott is completely booked

[TracerFX]

chyea until you look up and realize that you still have another 4k to go on your 5k time trial XD

LOL, at least your mind still can still go on forever, even if your body is saying 'hell no' hahaha

Hey Tony, you still feel like doing Last Gasp? If so, still trying to convince Magnum or going to join another team?

I'm interested yea...but not going to convince Magnum, Its too much of a hassle trying to get a team together, just easier to join a team lacking paddlers..

Haha we were talking about posting a thread on DBW

"10 Magnum Paddlers looking for teams for Last Gasp"

but other than that, there's a lot of interest but only half the team wants to do it because we've done so many races this year.

:haha: that would be a funny thread..I've posted one already to gauge the teams going haha

This year had the same number of races as last year, at 8.

might as well hookup with Eye of the dragon again, email dan: danhebert@telus.net

I would prefer to hook up with Masters...coz i would like to win (blame my competitiveness), some paddlers wanted to take it chill, i wanna go crazy/hardcore, regardless of the fact that its a regatta and no hardware given for winners...

So yeah, any teams that has a high chance of 'raping', I'm in :thumbsup:

have you guys got accomodations sorted out for San Fran yet btw? Noticed the sponsoring Marriott is completely booked

Denis is in charge of that...Vietnamese democracy man... :haha:

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I would prefer to hook up with Masters...coz i would like to win (blame my competitiveness), some paddlers wanted to take it chill, i wanna go crazy/hardcore, regardless of the fact that its a regatta and no hardware given for winners...

So yeah, any teams that has a high chance of 'raping', I'm in :thumbsup:


Haha, I doubt ppl will think you're awesome though if you win Last Gasp. It's like if Magnum went to the Richmond festival. But at least there you get hardware.


Denis is in charge of that...Vietnamese democracy man... :haha:
you mean, agree with him or.....bad things happen.....lol

[TracerFX]

Nah, not going there for the awesomeness factor, just for racing and winning. Bragging right's a bonus. :D Besides, I need more races b4 the end of the season.

I mean agree with him, or a bunch of PHD students come knocking at your home/office like a Jehovah's witness hassling you abt why u didnt agree with their leader DJ Trance :haha:

[RAYClovis]

Yeah, so, who's finding people for Last Gasp for us? :o

[TracerFX]

not me haha, i'm gonna wait and see what the responses are from my thread 1st, not sure what to do beyond that yet.

[RAYClovis]

Hrmph, we should be quick on it, though, if we're going to try to get a team going. Why not post the '10 Magnum paddlers' thread already? Just say we're looking for a comp, high-intensity team to merge with. :D (Seriously, we should get this going to make sure that we have a team going.)

[RacePace]

You know if you decide to do Last Gasp, you'll be doing 3 races in September lol

[RAYClovis]

Why not?

[RacePace]

eh, I dunno lol. If end up lacking one person I'll go

Who was the guy in the red magnum shirt OCing today? His stroke seemed pretty short, more reach and rotation! :D Dave looked pretty good though, as you probably noticed as he was way out front

[RAYClovis]

Dave O'Connor's always been our strongest paddler, in term of OC speed. Also, you didn't really describe that guy in red Magnum shirt. <_< (I didn't go OC so I don't know who went.)

[TracerFX]

Hrmph, we should be quick on it, though, if we're going to try to get a team going. Why not post the '10 Magnum paddlers' thread already? Just say we're looking for a comp, high-intensity team to merge with. :D (Seriously, we should get this going to make sure that we have a team going.)

Uhmm, thats coz I dont really know if we actually have 10 ppl wanting to go, some say they wanted to go paddle for beat/breaker/goju-go, some for synergy, some for masters...its all over the place.

I dont really want to deal with the hassle to set that up..and I think that thread might sound abit snobbish IMO. We should do a proper head count first if we ever proceed with that intention.


Who was the guy in the red magnum shirt OCing today? His stroke seemed pretty short, more reach and rotation! :D Dave looked pretty good though, as you probably noticed as he was way out front

That was me, were you there today? (I guess I was too focused on the 'other' members of RGL :D)

I was testing a different stroke technique (a mix of last years and this year's stroke) on the 5k time trial. Did pretty well with it since the last time i had a time trial, was last year. My time was right around Denis's 1st 5k time trial. :thumbsup:

Dave O was just being eager :D, I'll catch up to him in 1-2 months. I'll be back to my former self soon enough.

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If there's an RGL practice, I'm always there lol. I thought that was you, I was the shirtless guy that passed by you on Tuesday, I'm sure you knew it was me

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[TracerFX]

If there's an RGL practice, I'm always there lol. I thought that was you, I was the shirtless guy that passed by you on Tuesday, I'm sure you knew it was me

LOL, You know how many shirtless guys there were that hot ass day? I tend to divert my eyes away from shirtless guys, dont want no misunderstandings ya dig..especially in the locker rooms haha

All I recognized was Clovis's Barber who was shirtless, coz I sorta know him from last season. I dont know if Denis emailed you or not, but you can come to our tryout practice for San Fran on Sun Aug 9th, then we'll be able to finally introduce ourselves :thumbsup:

[sho_bc]

Alex, you should come to our workplace when someone accidently dials 911. Mary dialed it by mistake and an officer came lol, they are always coming. InComm at Commerce parkway :D

Unfortunately not the zone I work. Move your offices into central Richmond.

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LOL, You know how many shirtless guys there were that hot ass day? I tend to divert my eyes away from shirtless guys, dont want no misunderstandings ya dig..especially in the locker rooms haha

All I recognized was Clovis's Barber who was shirtless, coz I sorta know him from last season. I dont know if Denis emailed you or not, but you can come to our tryout practice for San Fran on Sun Aug 9th, then we'll be able to finally introduce ourselves :thumbsup:

omg...there's a tryout practice? Is it on OC or DB? You guys are going to make me work myself silly

[TracerFX]

Yup, there is..on DB.
Our coach wants to see blending/gelling/rhythm/stroke/etc.

There will be Paddlers coming from WW, Masters, SIB, and etc on that day. Its gonna be fun! :D

[RacePace]

How am I supposed to make it against all those guys?!? lol

It's practically an entirely different team, are you going to rename in San Fran or keep DH Magnum?

[TracerFX]

You never know...Our coach is doing this so he can see the talent and pick out 3 guys and 1 girl for SF.

Nope, Magnum all the way :thumbsup:, We're only short like 2 actual paddlers, while the other 2 will be spares in case of injuries and for open divisions/out of town teams divisions, etc.

Come on out and test your mettle, It'll be a blast! I myself will probably be on the coach boat or a C-lion

[RacePace]

Very slim chance then, new paddler + lower level team.

I'll still come and fight for it, it'll be a good learning experience regardless

[RAYClovis]

Yeah, but don't worry too much about it. It's still a good experience and it's a chance for you to get to known to our team/coach in case you want to move higher up the competition ladder but doesn't feel like having to be basically A-level in order to race ala FCRCC A/B. I'll likely be on OC/coach boat on that day and just cruising my way through while you guys battle nails and teeth. XD

Also, just showing up even though you think you don't stand a chance alone is worth a commendation for your commitment.

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[TracerFX]

At that rate, you'd better taper or you'll burn out sooner than later.

[RacePace]

I know, and to be honest, I'm a little scared because there's also three gym sessions in that week

But it's just a one week push and I really want to go, and fighting's what I do best. At least I'll be ready for Victoria

[RAYClovis]

Give yourself as much rest as possible after the one week push. Cut the gym/OC if you have to, you ain't much older than us.

[TracerFX]

Old or young, it doesnt make that much of a difference. I say this because physical burnout is not just about injuring the back muscles or the big limbs.

Its the little things that could get you in trouble or injury. Things from rotator cuffs, wrist ligaments, to finger tendons, those are the worst for dragonboaters and OC Paddlers (besides pulling your back/hip). Once you feel pain, you're fucked...and it could be a permanent injury.

As much as getting lots of rest after that intense schedule will help you, it wont do as much good as actual rest in between to give time for muscles/tendons/ligaments/etc to properly heal up. You work out, so you know to never work the same muscles in consecutive days...You do that in gym, your muscles just never develops properly and you could get injured. In DB/OC, injuries almost always happen, no two ways about it.

My 2 cents. :thumbsup:

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[sho_bc]

At that rate, you'd better taper or you'll burn out sooner than later.

If FCRCC guys can train harder than I will, then I can do it.


I paddled every day a minimum of 1 time/day for 2 years straight. Sometimes I paddled 3 sessions in a day.
You can do it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rAHnwWfsaY

[RacePace]

I paddled every day a minimum of 1 time/day for 2 years straight. Sometimes I paddled 3 sessions in a day.

I think you'd pretty much have to live at Granville island to do 3 times a day lol

Like you told me months ago, if I wanted it bad enough, I guess it's time to find out

[sho_bc]

This is what I count as 3 sessions:
- 6am paddle with sprint men
- dick around for a bit, then coach a team from an OC1 ~9:30am
- ~12, do a nice distance paddle out past Jericho Beach and back

...once upon a time, when I was in much better shape than I am now...

[RAYClovis]

FCRCC may train 5-6 times a week, but they don't go 100% every practice. They usually have a recovery week after a high-intensity week and whatnot. There's a training out there somewhere that explains it.

[TracerFX]

I paddled every day a minimum of 1 time/day for 2 years straight. Sometimes I paddled 3 sessions in a day.

That's the thing though, it differs with everyone..some of us can paddle hardcore for 2 years straight, and not get injuries, but some of us will..and who knows what will happen in the 3rd year, or 4th,5th, etc..you never know. Good physique and good warm-ups prevents injuries, but its not an absolute.

I think you'd pretty much have to live at Granville island to do 3 times a day lol


I wish I lived in Granville Island :D

[sho_bc]

Yah. For the first year of that, there was a whole lot of not stretching done by FCRCC except for a select few. Towards the end of the 2006 paddling season, when we were ramping up for Toronto's CCWC, we started to incorporate a team warm-up and stretch.

For the past 9 months or so, I've been pretty bad with stretching, which might explain my current condition :( I'm most likely NOT going to be able to paddle in the WPFG now, but I've still got my fingers crossed.

[RacePace]

That's really strange, stretching is a must for me, even before OCing. I find it weird how ppl can just hop in the boat without stretching first, unless they planned to do a 60% paddle the entire time

[sho_bc]

I used to do lots of stretching throughout the day anyway, and so jumping straight into a boat wasn't a big deal back then. But... the only stretching I get done during the day now is twisting to the right to use the computer. :D

[RAYClovis]

sho, out of curiousity, do you get a lot of on-job activities outside of just driving really fast occasionally? I see/hear way more police sirens in Vancouver than in Richmond.

[sho_bc]

We get the occasional running after people, but not often. We walk around here and there, but generally we're standing around talking with people, driving, sitting in the car driving/typing or in the office typing

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[sho_bc]

Richmond ppl are good ppl :D Nothing really bad goes on. Unless you're a traffic cop, which you're not

Where do you usually stand around? I'll drop by for a chat sometime lol

We're rarely just standing around doing nothing... its usually talking with clients. If nothing is going on, we're usually patrolling around looking for stuff.

Just saw Brad huli in a surfrigger at the dock this morning, couldn't do anything for him :(

Even the best of us can still huli

I'll be sure to make fun of him next time i see him. :)

[RacePace]

Anyone interested in going to Victoria with RGL? We need one extra male paddler

[TracerFX]

I'm most likely NOT going to be able to paddle in the WPFG now, but I've still got my fingers crossed.

You sure abt that? I heard the medals are awefully pretty :haha:

the only stretching I get done during the day now is twisting to the right to grab donuts. :D

Fixed :D

Just saw Brad huli in a surfrigger at the dock this morning, couldn't do anything for him :(


Brad who?

no one needs help to recover from a huli, if they do, they shouldn't be out there in the first place. (newbies notwithstanding)

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[TracerFX]

Brad Howie

I highly doubt that. Its like one of those things like: not getting ass blisters from the evil DB seats or 2 girls coming on to ya and saying they would like a threesome.

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[sho_bc]

You sure abt that? I heard the medals are awefully pretty :haha:

Yeah, i'd love to... but there is no way i'd be good for the 12 races we'd be doing in one day..... I'm going to grab a K1 tomorrow and test it out (super low resistance through the water), but most likely not paddling. I've been switched to team manager... aka team bitch. ;)

[RAYClovis]

Well, nothing wrong with passing out cold drinks to the team and massaging their calloused feet. :D

I'll be on OC tomorrow as well, Tony, what time you feel like hitting the water? I want to be on by like 5 or 6 and head back before it gets dark. (Okay, I need better tan.)

[sho_bc]

Eh. been roped into paddling.... not all 12 races though. we'll see how it goes

[RAYClovis]

That was fast. I guess foot massage isn't your thing. ;) Good luck with the races and bring home some bling. You know which other nations brought a boatload of experienced paddlers?

[sho_bc]

What can I say, I'm a sucker for competing/racing. I'm going to be very sore the next day though.

[RacePace]

It'll be interesting to see how fast the Australians and Hong Kong police are. No slouches I'm sure

[xXDragonXx]

It'll be interesting to see how fast the Australians and Hong Kong police are. No slouches I'm sure

Some members of the Australian DB team came into my restaurant and as I was talking to them, they mentioned how they were gearing up to repeat as champions. I've gotten a chance to hold the medal cause of all the Fire and Police game participants that go eat there, and the medal is pretty heavy. Definitely a high quality medal.. oval shaped, with the a thick band holding the medal.

[TracerFX]

try going out OC with the guys tomorrow evening. email tony or something."

So pretty much, it's more of an emphasis on pulling with your back right?

P.S: You're on the hook for OC! lol

Regardless of the stroke technique, the emphasis should always be pulling with your back in combo with leg drive, more power that way, because strong arming it will only get you so far, before you cramp up or get fatigued.

In any case, a bunch of us are going on OC at 6:30 today, if you would like to join.


Yeah, i'd love to... but there is no way i'd be good for the 12 races we'd be doing in one day.....
I've been switched to team manager... aka team bitch. ;)

Eh. been roped into paddling.... not all 12 races though. we'll see how it goes

lol, yeah you dont have to do all 12 races..what are spares/subs good for then...as long as everybody gets the nice bling, its all good, I believe even team bitch gets one too :haha:


I'll be on OC tomorrow as well, Tony, what time you feel like hitting the water? I want to be on by like 5 or 6 and head back before it gets dark. (Okay, I need better tan.)

6:30pm dude

[RacePace]

me and another RGLer will be there at 5:30, so we'll see you on the water or when we go back in

[TracerFX]

If bored at work

http://www.gwndragonboat.com/pub/docs/Ranking%20System_08_01_09.pdf

:D

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[TracerFX]

I'd be lying if I said I wasnt lol

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[sho_bc]

Woot! Gold, silver, bronze and either 4th or 5th in men's 20s. 10 races for me, 11 races total. Was an awesome day.