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[sho_bc]

I was asked by Andrea several times at our 1 practice and again yesterday, and kamini asked as well.... We'll see how my work schedule works out for next year. I'm going to be working towards at the very least being a ringer for the NTTs though. :)

[TracerFX]

Woot! Gold, silver, bronze and either 4th or 5th in men's 20s. 10 races for me, 11 races total. Was an awesome day.

Nice..I was there to watch a couple of your races, good thing that local teams rule haha

When you get your medals in the mail, post it up! :D

It was a really good practice, took a while to get used to the different rhythm that you guys have, but I got it eventually. I like how Brad paces his practices so we're not super exhausted, though that last piece was nasty. I'll be there Tuesday if I don't find out I'm cut by then lol

We do that last piece quite often, as a closure for practice. Good piece to train endurance coz if we can go 100% ish at 4-5 min then we'd be good for 2 min.

I'm pretty sure you wont be, If you are serious about going to SF with us, and are willing to put in the work in terms of technique and committing to practice, then you'd be fine. :thumbsup:

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[TracerFX]

I'd suggest you email Brad/Denis today or something so they can get back to you, then they will know after today's practice that you are still interested.

Assessing our current SF roster, we'd probably need more right side paddlers, so you'd have a good chance.

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[RAYClovis]

Don't worry, I'm known for bitching whenever certain people don't show up for practices often enough, so I understand your frustration in doing well but some of the team just won't ever show up.

[TracerFX]

Yeah, I've thought about the right sided paddler thing, that would be a saving grace. I've emailed Brad, hasn't gotten back to me yet. I'm pretty impressed with your girls btw, showing up earlier than the guys, and they weren't shy about introducing themselves to me haha.

Victoria racegrid is out, and we have a really late first race, almost noon lol. Should be a good race with Red Fusion. To be honest, I'm frustrated a bit with my team, a lot of ppl aren't showing up to practice and it's going to show in Victoria.

It'll be at least a few days before he can get back to you since he's out of town and he'll prolly need to work the roster to see the what's what.

lol, we have a good bunch of girls, shyness is a not a magnum's trait haha

That's probably the reason why some people who desires to be in a more competitive/committed environment move to other teams like FCRCC. Dedication/commitment is a big issue, I personally hate ppl skipping practices. It just shows that you are not really committed to the team, to winning.

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[RAYClovis]

Yeah, but even the dedicated teams of FCRCC isn't without their participation problems. =\ There's always work and family for some people even if it's past dinner time. Likewise, I'm pretty much jobless and schoolless these days (Well, just about the entire summer) so I had SOOO much free time outside of my injuries. Then again, Magnum is a 3x a week team with optional sessions and FCRCC can easily give you more than enough training sessions for a week's worth, so participation issues is expected when people look at 'Oh I'm going so many times anyway... I'm gonna just skip so and so.'

No, I don't know if Denis' back tomorrow, perhaps in a week.

[TracerFX]

Denis will be back today, but I'm not sure what time his flight's at, so he might not be at prac today.

[RacePace]

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[RAYClovis]

Nah, we don't always have too many people. Currently we sit at something like 21 paddlers, not including the two who're supposedly quitting the team now and won't be making SF. You should be able to get a seat.

[TracerFX]

Its gonna be tighter now that Crabtain Corn is coming back on Thurs :haha:

[xXDragonXx]

Fakk... I dislocated my shoulder today at work, but it got popped back in. It's feeling a little ackward right now though, but I might sit out tomorrow's practice =[ Hope it feels better, the big games are coming!

[RAYClovis]

Good job, Terry, now you can join Tony in dislocated shoulder.

Also, damnit, we really need to stop getting injured. :(

[RacePace]

how do you dislocate a shoulder at work lol

Damn, the race grid got changed, no more Red Fusion in first heat. I'm going 80% lol

[TracerFX]

Fakk... I dislocated my shoulder today at work, but it got popped back in. It's feeling a little ackward right now though, but I might sit out tomorrow's practice =[ Hope it feels better, the big games are coming!

Good job, Terry, now you can join Tony in dislocated shoulder.


Man, that suxs big time, I feel u bud.
Once you get that, its for life...unless u have surgery to correct it.
The diff between Terry's and mine is that mine occurred 4-5 years ago, and I'm still very cautious with it today...coz the pain is BAD if it happens.
DB has strengthened my scapula to prevent future dislocation or injuries to the rotator cuff, but I still have to be careful with it and learn what my body is telling me.

I remember in 2006, I somehow popped it and my arm couldnt get back into normal position, It was stuck at an awkward angle for about 15 min while I tried to 'pop' it back, and obviously I was in agony the whole time :haha:


how do you dislocate a shoulder at work lol


Yea, my question exactly :D

[TracerFX]

u coming today jacob?

[RacePace]

Yep, another practice before Victoria will do me good, though I feel very ready. Hopefully I can get a confirmation on San Fran. Has everyone booked plane tickets already?

[RAYClovis]

Most of us, likewise for the hotel rooms.

[TracerFX]

I think abt 80% of us purchased the flight ticks already, as well as the rooms as Clovis said.

Once you get confirmation, dont worry abt the rooms, I've seen the rooming arrangement list, plenty of spaces available. :thumbsup:

[RacePace]

Cool, lucky you guys got the Marriot, free shuttle to the festival, can't beat that.

I didn't realize how many of you Magnum ppl read this thread btw, need to watch what I say more lol

[TracerFX]

Free shuttle AND a 4 star hotel haha
You'll be able to stay there too.

lol, what made u realize that?

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[TracerFX]

lol, lurkers are better than trolls haha

[~Shibikku~]

what's wrong with lurking?!

[RAYClovis]

lol, lurkers are better than trolls haha

This is true, although I admit I do have quite a bit of fun trolling at times.

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[Tapioca]

Victoria is a heck of a venue. The Milleniums are pretty decent boats; I'd be happy if they used these instead of Gems on the mainland. The festival is well-run and it seemed to be livelier than Alcan, but maybe that had to do with the small space. If it wasn't so darn expensive to get there (BC Ferries), I think more teams from the mainland would attend.

It's always nice to come home with a gold medal, even if you run the risk of looking like a douche by wearing it on the ferry ride home. :)

[RAYClovis]

Congratulation on your 4th overall. :) Yeah, the Navy got edged out of their Victoria gold medal last year by Without Warning, so it's no surprise they're pretty determined this year. I wonder if they'll show up at Kelowna? Magnums would love nothing more than a rerace of last year's Kelowna final between RGL and Navy. :D

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[TracerFX]

We got 4th overall in Victoria.

Congrats dude! Though I feel for you about getting the bookmarks :haha:


It's always nice to come home with a gold medal, even if you run the risk of looking like a douche by wearing it on the ferry ride home. :)

No way you'd look like a douche for wearing your hard earned medals man! People who judge you for wearing it are either envious or sore losers. With that said though, its definitely better when its the bunch of you wearing it versus just by yourself...Strength in numbers lol


I got a email from Denis and I won't be going to San Fran. So to all the Magnums that come on here, thanks for welcoming me and I think I've definitely moved up a level in terms of paddling ability while practicing with you guys. Pass it around to those who don't come on here.

I'm glad you were in our boat Jacob, good experiences for all.
Dont be shy and say hi next time you see us.
Dont be shy and hold back a little next time your team races with us. :D
Come join us next year if you crave more competition, you'll have a seat on the boat. :thumbsup:

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[RAYClovis]

Haha, it's understandable. No worries about it, just put your home team first. :)

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[TracerFX]

A few of them got scared I would leave when I started practicing with you guys.

Thats coz they got the hots for you haha

If you change your mind next year, We'll be here :D

[sho_bc]

A few of them got scared I would leave when I started practicing with you guys.

When I went from my first team (so-so Rec team no longer in existence) to FODB (also no longer in existence.....), they all understood that I was moving on for the bigger challenge and more experience. However when I went from FODB to FCRCC that same season, there were a handful of people that didn't want me to leave.

The people who are your friends will encourage you to paddle for the team that pushes you/that you enjoy paddling with the most. They may not want to lose your strength & speed, but they also realize that clinging on to you for the team is a waste of skill on your part.

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[RAYClovis]

When Magnum was still mostly a rec team and we decided to go comp, where was only a handful of us that stayed with that decision for the next year. We had to recruit a good amount of new paddlers and likewise for this year's stepping it up. In fact, I'd say that a little more than half of Magnum this year are people who we've had to recruit. So yes, if RGL want to step it up, you'll have to expect to recruit people who're also willing to step up, but it's very possible with dedication and enthusiasm. Obviously, if way less than half of a boat want to step up, it'd be less of a hassle to look for another team. It doesn't hurt to discuss it with your team, especially now that it's near the end of the season.

[xXDragonXx]

Hey Alex, were you ever a part of Synergy? Just curious cause I vaguely remember you with synergy.. or maybe it's because you went out with Melody (my old teammate's sister :D)

But yeah, i'm part of the handful of magnum paddlers that joined this year. My team from last year folded, and I was also looking forward to a more competitive team. I like your decision to stay with RGL for a few years. A lot of us here strive for high-end competition and striving to be the best we can possibly be... but it was nice paddling with Rice Rockets for the years that I did. We really bonded well as a team, and those were some extremely fun years I had with them that I wouldn't take back... Many of them will be my friends for life. And likewise, a lot of the team decided not to do db this year, and some joined various teams, but when I was out there with Magnum at Alcan for example, I felt a tremendous amount of support from my old coaches, managers, teammates, etc. So just for the friendship aspect, I commend your decision to stay with RGL for a while.. and it also gives you time to grow mentally and physically for DB.

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We are not doing it as a team for sure.
I believe abt 5-6 of us are doing it with other teams like Synergy and DH Beat.
Myself and 1/2 other guys will be paddling for How Wet Can You Get for fun since the Beat is full.

Just the 10 men boat races? lol..FYI, all 10 men boats races are actually women's race...but since most teams have only 8 women, they are allowing 2 men on the boat, but minimum 8 females. :p

[RacePace]

Synergy is making a comeback?

[sho_bc]

anyone up for a paddle (oc1) tomorrow AM?

[RacePace]

how early? I could do a lap before practice

[sho_bc]

what time is your practice? thinking 8 or 9-ish?

[RacePace]

Practice is at 10. how about in the middle, 8:30

[TracerFX]

Synergy is making a comeback?

lol, not sure, ask Terry.

anyone up for a paddle (oc1) tomorrow AM?
Going to be trying out the 10 men boat tonite, so no paddling tomm morning hehe

[RAYClovis]

I wish I could paddle on the 10 men boat sometime, but I'm not on any LG team, so yeah.

:( I wanna win some races.

[TracerFX]

LG?

The 10 men boat was ok I guess. Its not much different other than front and back foot brace sucks, you can really feel it if anyone goes back in the boat instead of leaning out, and speed picks up faster when power is applied and dies faster the moment anybody lets up.

[RAYClovis]

Last Gasp, of course. I'm not racing in it.

[TracerFX]

If you really want to, then join 'How Wet Can You Get'.
I'm pretty sure they will still take extras as there's a lot of races for that day.

[RAYClovis]

No, I'm not racing because I'm going to rest my injuries.

[RacePace]

All the talk about the Montreal nationals is interesting. What are Magnum's goals next year in Whistler? Would you try to go to the CCWC's?

[TracerFX]

Next year's qualifier is for the 2011 Worlds in Tampa. So it's going to be only one team picked.
With that said, Magnum's plan for next year is not concrete yet but it has been discussed in the past about attending said qualifier to battle FCRCC and any other teams (west and east) for the chance to represent Team Canada. The fact that its most likely be held near here improves the chances of Magnum attending. The argument against attending will be if our core paddler stays together or not.

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[RAYClovis]

Oh, I know who you're talking about. <_< He IS pretty damn big.

Also, while it sounds nice to race for 2011 Worlds as a club crew, I don't think Magnum is ready to make that jump (Too many commitment issues), so we'll be just content with being in a Nationals. If we can make it to CCWC for 2012 I'd be happy, but will the core even stay long enough?

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[RAYClovis]

Like I said, commitment issues can factor into it. =\

[TracerFX]

Also, while it sounds nice to race for 2011 Worlds as TEAM CANADA, I don't think Magnum is ready to make that jump (Too many commitment issues), so we'll be just content with being in a Nationals.

Fixed.
I agree, but we have a decent chance nonetheless to contend.
The experience will teach us, humble us and help us strive to be better.
Because there's nothing better than to finish racing in the Nationals and leave with a sense of wanting more...bigger and better goals.

although I doubt your current core will stay long enough (people will always come and go, even in the best teams), if the team as a whole keeps their desire and standards high, and always practices hard, then Magnum could do it, even if it's with a whole new core than what you have now.

Only time will tell.

[RAYClovis]

Yes, bit the bigger and better goals requires increasing effort, skills, and talent from the paddlers. It can't be done if we have even a very small bunch of paddlers who could barely keep up. (Not to point out names.) I don't care, but the higher level we aim for, the more each and every paddler need to be accountable for his/her own skill level and dedication.

I don't want to raise the expectation for the team if we're not 100% committed, technique and effort wise. (And I mean 100%- everyone including the the spares. If we really want to reach the top, we'll definitely need to start clamping down on technical offenders.)

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[RAYClovis]

Yes, going even higher wouldn't just mean increased practices/OC time, but also gym sessions to make sure that everyone's up to the level on the power output. Which would lead to increased chance of injuries- there's a reason why FCRCC have their own personal message therapist for some outings. (You might've seen her in the FCRCC regatta.) And really, if you know about the FCRCC schedule you'll know how detailed their training really is-- every paddler is expected to know what to do, how to train an appropriate volume, and do his/her own offwater trainings like core sessions, gym workouts, and whatnot.

It's not all that uncommon when you look at the top national and international competition. So yes, maybe it'll become more than just a passion into your lifestyle, but isn't what most elite athletes do anyway? It's just a matter of gathering the people with the drive and determination to do so and making such commitment.

[TracerFX]

We have areas to work on for sure, improvements wouldn't be in the form of a 4th team practice, but more like personal oc and gym session. It all boils down to time commitment vs having a personal life. some dont want to have their personal life completely fall off the radar lol.


P.S. One Apparel's facebook pics from Montreal, picture 4, that girl is......intriguing..... LOL

:haha: she's the caller for the U of T New College New Dragons.

I think they have the same jersey type as Magnum except its white.
I really want names on the back of our jersey...:D

[RAYClovis]

I want a jersey with a collar so I don't get lifejacket burns anymore. And yeah, names on our jersey will be cool, but also another colour scheme. <_< Do we really need to go with BLACK in summers?

[RacePace]

I hope noone makes a jersey with a collar, people will be popping them all over the place. Black is the best colour, even if it gets hot, you still look cool lol

[TracerFX]

You get lifejacket burns? I'm pretty sure it depends on your PFD type.
Collared jersey's gay, turtle neck would be less gay, but hot as hell during summer.

Black is awesome for sure, but white looks good too, like lycra/dryfit white...though I'm biased coz i have a thing for white color haha

[RAYClovis]

Yes, I get lifejacket burn on my neck, it gets really bad when the skin at that area is irritated from all those rubbing, and I've already tightened my shoulder straps to as tight as possible. So yeah.

[RacePace]

loosen it, don't tighten it

[sho_bc]

The mock-collar is best.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=76047&l=223547fcb1&id=508373524

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[sho_bc]

Ouch, that'll hurt.

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[sho_bc]

yeah, we came first in australia.

[sho_bc]

The times could be due to the course. I know we had lots of wind to deal with in Australia.

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At least our women and seniors are kicking ass lol

[TracerFX]

loosen it, don't tighten it
+1 , though snug is best, but dont over tighten.

The mock-collar is best.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=76047&l=223547fcb1&id=508373524

I'd have to add you on facebook now lol

[sho_bc]

I don't exist on facebook... :inout:

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I don't exist on facebook... :inout:
you should, many scandalous pictures
you're right, I couldnt find you :haha::haha:

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[sho_bc]

you're right, I couldnt find you :haha::haha:

:D

[RAYClovis]

Man, the lane bias over at Prague is really going to stir up some shit now that IDBF changed their rules to fit it. Canada won the Premier Mixed 500m in that lane, too.

Now we can see everyone fighting for lane 1 in semi instead of in final.

[RacePace]

Ya, they really need to take a closer look at race courses in the future. They've been fighting for lane 1 for a while now, it's hard to just come second though when all the races are so close

[RAYClovis]

Man, I'm such a sucker for watching drama develop over at East Dragonboat forum.

[RacePace]

It's kind of annoying. Why would the freaking US head coach come onto that forum and talk trash with them, so retarded

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Did you train the full season with the FCRCC men's team btw?

[RAYClovis]

Yes, I trained with their Men's team from Jan 'til Alcan. Stopped after that due to scheduling issues.

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[RAYClovis]

The official season practice start in Jan, but you're welcome to FCRCC mixed practices during the offseason 'til it's too cold to practice, as a way to try out if they will be a fit for you. I'll likely be there once I've recovered enough, and I also plan to stick with FCRCC Men next year until Nationals time.

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That's pretty much given if I get a seat. More likely, I think that FCRCC Men will be having guys from the East to round off the roster.

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[sho_bc]

No Nationals next year. Next year will be the National Team Trials, to see who will be forming the core of the National Team for the 2011 Worlds.

My plan is to be a ringer for the NTTs next year if they're held locally. ;)

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The location was supposed to be announced at the DBC annual meeting in late Aug but nothing has come out yet.

[TracerFX]

"sources" says Whistler, so we'll see a lot of attendance from west paddlers.

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Harrison or Whistler, same diff for us lol

They are both around the same level I believe, and I'm not sure just by having me and 2 other paddler from Magnum is gonna help that much. We only had 1 practice together and it felt awkward for me in terms paddling dynamics. I would have liked to paddle for the Beat, but they are overloaded.

[RAYClovis]

Sigh, all the talk of races is making me green with envy. :( I hate my injuries. I hate how fragile I am.

[TracerFX]

I dont think you are fragile, u just over trained lol

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No you won't make a difference, but it will be fun watching Magnum paddlers race each other lol. Don't forget to yell NO FUCKING WAY on both boats

Oh, u got me wrong, there's no Magnum on the Beat boat, Just on How Wet. (Besides, Magnum race each other all the time on OC6 on sun, 3-4 boat heats :haha:)

definitely no NFW haha, they barely shout and grunt to begin with.


That will be my problem next year
Reduce it. Less frequency, more intense.
Over training is akin to sharpening a sharp blade to the point that it turns dull.

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I need to paddle out there on an OC1 and watch sometime

And that is exactly why you need to do NFW lol, even if you're the only one on the boat doing it

[RAYClovis]

Though, you're sticking with RGL United next year right? If they're still twice a week next week, then you have less worries about overtraining. It's four dragonboat practices a week when it starts to show. (I was fine for most of the season until some months after Magnum switch over to 3x DB a week instead of OC6 Sundays)

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I need to paddle out there on an OC1 and watch sometime

And that is exactly why you need to do NFW lol, even if you're the only one on the boat doing it

Not just watch, race us hahaha! We're usually there after 12:30 sometimes in the creek, or sometimes beyond burrard bridge.

Nah, I do the NFW on land, on water its Terry's job lol


Yeah, I'm sure if I would've stuck with you guys till San Fran, I would've been hurting. I'll will have OC'ed more next year than this year though.

Andrew seems to kayak even more than I OC, he was out there again today. Looking pretty good in that thing

Sugi is doing that because he doesnt want to kayak in the winter (flip), so more oc1 after oct for him lol

[RacePace]

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[TracerFX]

Sleeping in time! :haha:

One of the perks of being Magnum...you can see what it's all abt next year lol

[RAYClovis]

Christ, Tony, sleep already. D:

Also, I don't really expect to pull off an easy win in this one. It feels like everytime we manage to step it up, the field gets tougher. D: Especially with FCRCC going to races they usually don't. Kelowna probably won't see even half a boat's worth of FCRCC paddlers, but the existing teams still can pose a challenge. The defending champion will be interesting to race.

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[RAYClovis]

Oh dear, are we raiding the FCRCC forum now?

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[TracerFX]

hahaha, hopefully when i do +1, they dont go 'wtf is that?'.

the forum is kinda dead i think. I got one reply to a question and its was like 'why dont you contact the exec?' and i'm thinking to myself, isnt this forum a way to reach to them (without having to email directly). the funny thing is the guy who responded to me is the Commodore of FCRCC :haha::haha:

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[RAYClovis]

I don't think there will be SPECIFIC SPECIFIC details on Men's team or whatnot. It's more of a FCRCC the club's budget meeting and whatnot. Though, why don't you give Kamini a ring? I'm sure she won't mind you asking directly.

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[TracerFX]

It's be nice to have at least 1 working OC2 though..besides, I personally would like them to buy more C-lions..

I might attend the AGM if:
1) I still remember abt it come Oct.
2) Dont have anything better to do

I would be interested to see how its like for one time only probably lol
I highly doubt there will be info abt the men's team as well.

why don't you give Kamini a ring?

My eyes just scanned that and I'm thought wedding ring :haha:

[sho_bc]

If you're not interested specifically in the politics of the club, the AGM is quite boring....

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It's be nice to have at least 1 working OC2 though..besides, I personally would like them to buy more C-lions..


I think the C-lions are great, but I'd like to see a different boat actually, something that doesn't have a straight iako so I don't hit the front one accidently

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[RAYClovis]

I want a team's gold medal for magnum already. :( We've never been able to finish it in the finals this season, no matter how well we do in the day or who we faced. I want to train even harder because of it, but everyone's telling me to rest. =\ Next year, I hope that the team decides to take it even more seriously and make sure that we can finish it this time.

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I think Alcan and Whistler are two examples where you had good finals. You should definitely rest, even though I'm not, and I said I would lol. My teammates pushed me to paddle again, one of them had a drunken rant about how he could beat me in an OC, proved him wrong and have an email of him admitting I was better lol.

It's weird to think how you guys can take it more seriously. You guys will definitely get better though, just cause of this year's experience. You'd have to take it to near FCRCC's level of commitment. Hopefully you have the people with the mentality for it. I have the same hope for my own team (but obviously on a different level), but I've come to the realization that "semi-competitiveness" is a tricky place to be, you have people who want to be competitive and some who want to be in a good team, yet not work as hard as a true competitive team. You need everyone to have the same goals to be successful

[TracerFX]

go back again next year and try it again.....and take me along next time :D

LARD's a good team, I believe they have international level paddlers

For sure, why dont u just join us right away :haha:

LARD is indeed a good team, they just had a better race on that one race is all, so they definitely deserved the gold.

We've never been able to finish it in the finals this season, no matter how well we do in the day or who we faced. I want to train even harder because of it, but everyone's telling me to rest. =\ Next year, I hope that the team decides to take it even more seriously and make sure that we can finish it this time.

REST Clovis.

IMHO, aside from LARD giving their best race, I think our downfall is exhaustion. Magnum as a team (except 2 others and myself in Last Gasp) have never raced so many races in a festival. I think the mens/womens/masters/visiting cup races on sunday ate away at our energy for the semi and final races. I didn't even have time to eat in between races...I remember my stomach growling while marshaling for the semis...and when you do get a little time to rest and eat, you cant really eat much anyway since you have to be ready for the next race.

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[RAYClovis]

What can they say? Finding committed paddlers is pretty much something that no competitive teams can overlook. ;) I'll be joining you on the FCRCC Men once I've enjoyed my three-month rest.

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This year, I believe they're in need of more paddlers for Men's team, so as long as you work hard, being at least a spare is pretty much secured. Then again, with me and my planned three month break from paddling, I've got a very long way to catch up to you guys. :( (December is offlimit from paddling for me since that's the time the creek start to freeze.) Of course, it's a lot better to just move your boat faster than others. :D

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Not offland. We do get weekly onwater workout plan just so everyone on the boat know what to expect whenever we train.

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[RAYClovis]

Damnit, damnit, you guys get all the fun OC lessons. :(

Now, where's my middle finger emoticon?

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[RAYClovis]

Kind of old news by now, considering how much of a breeding ground for drama this year's Worlds was. <_< And now you find out that even FCRCC can have issues. It seems like, the higher level the competition, the more drama tend to come out of it. (Sometimes this is understandable.)

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[RAYClovis]

Why is that everyone overhears everything? :( I'd love to be able to eavesdrop without staring.

[RacePace]

Cause people don't know who I am and think that me hearing things doesn't really matter, which is true in a way

I was just setting up my boat and listening to them at the same time, and delaying it out by stretching at the dock like I usually do lol

[RAYClovis]

Man. I know DB isn't the only sport that's being shafted in term of access because of the Olympics, but I still wonder how well it will go. Seeing how Granville Island is promoted as a apart of the Olympics, it will have a shitload of tourist and people and whatnot. Dragonzone's pretty much blocked off, and yeah.

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[RAYClovis]

Eh, the access restriction could extend all the way into middle of March, I believe. Anyway, it's going to be a pain getting into and out during the Olympics, so we'll probably see a break or something.

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[sho_bc]

Some other team will pop up who are able to challenge. It always happens.

As for the water being restricted, shutting down east of Cambie will kill more than 1000m each way of paddling space! ah well....

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[sho_bc]

haha! sounds good! You'll just have to beat me, first. ;)

Honestly though, given my lack of being on the water in the last 2 years, you probably will. haha

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[sho_bc]

Yep. I can still pull a 27min 5km loop though.... so whatchu got? :D

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[TracerFX]

ooooo, Dave O'Connor is in my small boats coaching group, I look forward to battling him

Really?? I didnt know he took it. How was the course?

omg, Ontario's Mayfair Predators are gone. Noone can challenge FCRCC for Team Canada now

Where did you hear that from?

Some other team will pop up who are able to challenge. It always happens.


Chances are, those teams will probably have ex-predator paddlers lol

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[RAYClovis]

Again, I wish I am out paddling instead of resting and bulking up.

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[xXDragonXx]

Bulking is easy, do more all you can eat sushi's, eat like a pig, have Sophia sit beside you all the time lol.

^LOL

But yeah, it is indeed true. Mayfair is done. I was talking to the Hydrophobic guys that took the trip and paddled with Air Canada down in San Fran. They said that although they're done, they're certain that another team will arise because the paddlers still want to paddle and are looking to form a new team.

Favourite quote from them:

"Guys! Guys! You just need to be agressive! Just DIG DEEP AND BE GREEDY WITH THAT WATER! JUST BE GREEEEDY WITH IT!"

[TracerFX]

^LOL!
Everytime i read that, I imagine him doing his air paddling while saying that haha

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[RAYClovis]

What'd you think of Kamini's coaching?

[sho_bc]

Meh, I dominated everyone by a fair margin. Dave will need some work to catch me, something about his technique looks odd, wonder if he's still doing the Magnum stroke in the OC

Don't let your head get too big! :p

[TracerFX]

Meh, I dominated everyone by a fair margin. Dave will need some work to catch me, something about his technique looks odd, wonder if he's still doing the Magnum stroke in the OC

lol, I do have to ask what the distance was on this?

Keep in mind, being good on OC1 doesn't necessarily equate to being good on DB.

Yea, how was Kamini's methods?

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[sho_bc]

Its a good thing if Kamini ignores you. It means you're doing things right. :thumbsup:

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Time Trials next year is confirmed for Whistler btw

http://www.dragonboat.ca/node/122

[TracerFX]

Just doing the loop from Cambie to Science world. It was my goal to dominate everyone lol, I dunno how hard everyone else was going, I was going 85% from Cambie to Science world, which needs a bit of endurance.

Ya, wish I was still DBing so I can translate my OC skill, my technique on the OC is quite different than on the DB now. And my problem was always more in timing than technique

Kamini was just going around to different people in her coach boat to assist them, we were all different speeds so fairly far apart from each other. She's actually fairly nice, my coach said she's mean sometimes and ignores you, I didn't find that at all. Maybe cause she was dealing with new people.

I was at the cinema with Dave tonight and I asked him how it was and he told me Kamini got him to do 70%, probably to assess what your technique is like, to use it as a baseline or whatnot.

I just wonder how the video session is actually going to work out with it being so dark out there lol

Ya, I figured that for my own coach. She said she "loved my body movement" though lol

Loved your body movements eh.... :haha:

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[sho_bc]

Eh. I went from Rec C to paddling at the NTTs and CCWC in less than a year. You can do it!

[RacePace]

Time to see how fast I can do 5km, going to be aiming for your 27 mins lol. Going to give it a try next week I think

[sho_bc]

haha! my 27 min is probably going to be closer to, or above, 30 min this time around.... I've been off the water and out of the gym for way too long.

[TracerFX]

post your times after the time trial :D

[RacePace]

haha Alex signed up, now it's going to be a party

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[RAYClovis]

I'd be lucky to hit 35mins this time around. Haven't paddled since San Fran and all I've been doing are intermittent gym workouts. :| Just about the entire Magnum is telling me to keep my ass on the ground, but I'll see if I can paddle within the next couple of weekends.

[RacePace]

You should be fine by now, unless you're actually still hurting

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[TracerFX]

Either still on a break or feel like they have nothing to prove lol

[TracerFX]

you should post on dbw and ask that, to encourage them to come and do TT haha

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[TracerFX]

just innocently/noobly ask a question on the mailing list, 'how come there's so many girl buts so few guys? are they on vacation?' lol

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[TracerFX]

Wow, paragraph much?

[RAYClovis]

I'm not certain if those mailing lists are supposed to be used public like that. <_< But yeah, certain emails were just amusing to read.

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[RAYClovis]

Wouldn't be just FCRCC B, if some of the stronger teams also step up or actually show up at Alcan.

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[TracerFX]

It aint no walk in the park for sure, but it's our goal and we just have to work real hard at closing the gap. no more 4-6 second diff between FCRCC A and us. With us upping our commitment level, hopefully we can get within a few seconds behind them or on par, we'll see how the season goes lol

Besides, our principle is always racing our own race, so our biggest enemy is ourselves.

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[TracerFX]

We will be doing OC6 starting this week. Other are doing OC1 at their own time.

As for who's faster than who, we'll leave that up to the time trials, I'm assuming Dave will be doing the Nov 22 TT, if so then let the results speak for itself.

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[RAYClovis]

Never remember him talking about the time trial. I really should get back into paddling but I'm getting all four of my wisdom teeth extracted on Friday, so I'm pretty much stuck on land.

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[RAYClovis]

Look at the post above. I'm getting my wisdom teeth extracted surgically this Friday, and I don't feel like paddling with fresh stitches in my month and high on painkiller.

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[TracerFX]

for being the dragon boat rep, he should be lol

[RAYClovis]

He's basically one of those paddler-coaches when it comes to OC.

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[NimbeeTT]

Any teams recruiting right now? :)
Right side female paddler, been paddling since 2007 but haven't gotten back on the water for the past two seasons. I was a stroke for my previous team.
I'm helping with coaching a junior team this coming season, practicing out of False Creek on Sundays but that's not gonna give me a chance to really paddle, so I'm looking for a stable team with more experienced paddlers. Preferably practicing out of False Creek.

PM me pls! Ty :)

[46_valentinor]

so im joining dragonboating this year!!!
i have two options, which are either red fusion or splash test dragon.
any recommendations? =D

[RacePace]

Hmm, why are those your two options?

I think Tapioca paddles with Red Fusion, or used to, could PM him for more info

[xXDragonXx]

Agreed with EvilBroScientist, there are PLENTY of teams to choose from but does age group matter to you? And competitive level?

IIRC, Red Fusion's age range is more on the younger side (20s-30s) whereas Splash Test Dragons are older? (some in their 20s,30s,40s)

Although turn around rates are high for some teams (with people joining diff. teams and such) and certain teams aim to make significant jumps, here's last year's standings if it matters to you.

http://www.dragonboatwest.net/index.php?page=15 (Ranked based on outcomes of races in BC, although I don't if it's been updated since Alcan).

[DaFonz]

so im joining dragonboating this year!!!
i have two options, which are either red fusion or splash test dragon.
any recommendations? =D

What are your goals?

[46_valentinor]

i just got contacted by dragon heart beat, so that is another option i have. i think i will go check out the three teams during their practice this week.
my goals?
-i want to meet new people (around my age, im 20)
-i get quite competitive, so i want to win
-i want to work hard and achieve victory
-gain new experience
-have fun

[RacePace]

You could and should probably join a more competitive team than the ones you mentioned. The Beat will probably be more competitive than the first two teams, you should get practicing soon (like this weekend) because most teams are well into training already and will have races soon.

You could join an even more competitive team next year or jump to other teams later on in the season for more races.

Have a feeling you'll cross paths with us soon enough

[DaFonz]

More competitive teams that were recruiting as of a few weeks ago:
- Dragon Hearts Ultimate
- Lifescan
- Riptide (I think)
- Starbucks

The beat, red fusion and splash test dragons are unlikely to win anything.

[RacePace]

More competitive teams that were recruiting as of a few weeks ago:
- Dragon Hearts Ultimate
- Lifescan
- Riptide (I think)
- Starbucks

The beat, red fusion and splash test dragons are unlikely to win anything.

Damn, cold as fuck cuz

There are more competitive teams, but they might be too much so for a newbie starting later in the season. Riptide and Starbucks particularly who are going to Hong Kong, and wouldn't take you along with them. Lifescan's a good team, Dragon Hearts Ultimate might be tough to break into, they are a really competitive team.
RGL United is another one that I originally started out with and might need guys. Great coach, and like to have a bit of fun too. Would probably more accommodating to a newbie.

[46_valentinor]

so today i went and checked out the Beat and....because of my lack of experience, i couldn't keep up with their rhythm when they are going at 80 percent...
im happy i went cause its definitely a new experience, but im not happy with how i did.
Not going to give up though, gonna keep working at it.
Btw, it really is a PITA!!! =D

[xXDragonXx]

The upside with Beat this year is that there's a lot of eager paddlers and their boat is looking pretty full throughout their practices which is a positive. Because my team last year is now defunct, a couple of my teammates are coaching Beat (in fact, all four teams that DaFonz mentioned have been invited to Hong Kong this year minus Ultimate, but the Beat is going). Beat and Ultimate are also planning on going to San Fran this year.. WHICH REMINDS ME, if either of you two are interested in forming a competitive mash up team to go down this year ;). Best of luck to both of you this weekend at your time trials, I'll be there to show my support and see if there's anything I can take for my own selection camp the following week:fuckyea:

Anyways, if you heard anyone screaming like a maniac tonight, it was probably me. We crossed paths a couple of times today.

[RacePace]

so today i went and checked out the Beat and....because of my lack of experience, i couldn't keep up with their rhythm when they are going at 80 percent...
im happy i went cause its definitely a new experience, but im not happy with how i did.
Not going to give up though, gonna keep working at it.
Btw, it really is a PITA!!! =D

Everybody is bad their first time, just keep working at it. There will be pain, and more pain lol

WHICH REMINDS ME, if either of you two are interested in forming a competitive mash up team to go down this year ;). Best of luck to both of you this weekend at your time trials, I'll be there to show my support and see if there's anything I can take for my own selection camp the following week:fuckyea:

Depends on Tampa, vacation days, and $$ lol

[DaFonz]

The upside with Beat this year is that there's a lot of eager paddlers and their boat is looking pretty full throughout their practices which is a positive. Because my team last year is now defunct, a couple of my teammates are coaching Beat (in fact, all four teams that DaFonz mentioned have been invited to Hong Kong this year minus Ultimate, but the Beat is going). Beat and Ultimate are also planning on going to San Fran this year.. WHICH REMINDS ME, if either of you two are interested in forming a competitive mash up team to go down this year ;). Best of luck to both of you this weekend at your time trials, I'll be there to show my support and see if there's anything I can take for my own selection camp the following week:fuckyea:


Who's in so far?

I dunno man.. sweeping San Fran last year is gonna be pretty hard to top.

[TylerY]

I'm looking into Dragon Boat for this season. I have no experience with this sport and will start by checking out a friend's open house this weekend.

If I do in fact decide to join, I would like to start strong and be able to compete. Any tips from seasoned vets for workouts, equipment recommendations or general tips you've gained over the years?

TIA

[RacePace]

Don't skip a practice, nothing else trains you like the practices do. If you miss a week or two, you will feel it.

In the gym, I would focus on the compound exercises like deadlift and squat, and even the olympic lifts like cleans and snatches. You'll want to work on feeling what it's like to use your whole body into moving weight (then translate that into doing paddling strokes)

If you need extra cardio, running helps, but I think the rowing erg is probably better albeit painful

[RacePace]

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[xXDragonXx]

Yeah, as RacePace iterated, it's really a full body action when you're performing it rather than just arms as it appears to the public while they're watching the race. There's a bunch of different exercises you can do in the gym, but water time is going to help you first and foremost. Don't miss practice like anything!

Once you get comfortable with you're paddling, and you're looking to improve more, you may want to look into outrigger canoe to really learn the sport and get your conditioning up.

FCRCC - OC1 Orientations - 2012 (http://www.fcrcc.com/news/oc1-orientations?amp;searched=oc-1%2Borientation&highlight=highlight)
(Does need a membership to the Canoe Club, but you can get a month trial if you want at first). Where's your team paddling out of?

[Nlkko]

Full body action. You won't last 200 meters arm paddling. Since you are new, I would suggest attend every practice and really pay attention to everything especially the technique. Proper paddling technique (full body pull) and being in sync with your team is the most important thing. Brute force is not. It helps if you have somebody experienced sit behind you and teach you.

[xXDragonXx]

Hey Nlkko, what team do you paddle on and what's your name? :)

[Nlkko]

I don't paddle anymore because of a bad back. I am steering for my gf's team, CC Riders. Pretty amateur team haha. Alex from Booze Cruise is our coach. You might know him :)

You're with FCRCC? You guys won last year Alcan, didn't you? Pretty hardcore team.

[xXDragonXx]

I don't paddle anymore because of a bad back. I am steering for my gf's team, CC Riders. Pretty amateur team haha. Alex from Booze Cruise is our coach. You might know him :)

You're with FCRCC? You guys won last year Alcan, didn't you? Pretty hardcore team.

Hahah no, I'm with One West, the team that lost to FCRCC by .23 seconds to come second overall. Last year we were that young, U23 crew that yelled everywhere =P

RacePace and DaFonz are on FCRCC though. Regardless, great to see more paddlers on RevScene!

[RacePace]

DaFonz is a former member *ahem* :okay:

[Nlkko]

Anyone still paddle? :hi:

I decided to start this year. Steering is way too boring.

Have been training since September. I paddle out of Dragon Zone. Their boats are green. If you see some dude on a DZ's single at night, that's probably me. Says hi. :D

[gars]

Anyone still paddle? :hi:

I decided to start this year. Steering is way too boring.

Have been training since September. I paddle out of Dragon Zone. Their boats are green. If you see some dude on a DZ's single at night, that's probably me. Says hi. :D

I've been dboating with Kanaloa (Starbucks) since last year... only started getting more serious this summer. Started OC'ing a few months ago. Got an FCRCC membership, so I'm trying to make it out onto the water once or twice a week.

I'll yell Nikko, next time I see someone on those DZ oc's.

[Nlkko]

Swift or Surge?

DZ only has 2 crappy boats so it's either me or my friend :fullofwin:

[gars]

Swift or Surge?

DZ only has 2 crappy boats so it's either me or my friend :fullofwin:

was on Sumatra last year (that's where I started), on Swift this year, and jumped onto Surge after Alcan. I didn't realize the difference between the two boats until after I got bumped up... Even though we had lost a few key paddlers after Alcan.

I've been on those DZ oc's... they're not THAT bad, but prefer paddling out of FCRCC. We still practice out of DZ though...

Are you joining a team this year?

[Nlkko]

I'm on the SFU team this year. Half is decent and half is just terrible. We're also practicing out of DZ Friday night. Trying to get more people on small boats to work on their technique.

I'm also on Lotus team for outrigger races. Hoping to do Alcatratz next summer and probably Molokai after.
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[gars]

I'm on the SFU team this year. Half is decent and half is just terrible. We're also practicing out of DZ Friday night. Trying to get more people on small boats to work on their technique.

I'm also on Lotus team for outrigger races. Hoping to do Alcatratz next summer and probably Molokai after.
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I wanted to join Lotus, but I'm too committed to DB right now, plus I have my FCRCC membership. That and it is a little far for me... Maybe next year. I did my first Lotus race in Sep though, and it was fun as hell.

Our club is thinking about possibly sending a crew out to Kona next summer, personally I want to do Pailolo.

[xXDragonXx]

Hmm, its been a while..

[goaleR]

Looking at getting into dragon boat this year. Any tips on how to register with a club? I checked a couple of sites already but not too sure where to go.
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[tool001]

^ go to a few different teams and prac. w/ them , see who u gel with . join that team. google dbwest . u have to see if u want to be in comp or rec. start rec if u dont know much about db.

i have paddled for over 4 - 5 years with various comp teams. wanted to get back into it after break of 2 years.. but cant commit time and travel any more. maybe i'd join a rec team (last time i tried out a bmo rec team , got annoyed and left to join comp)

[DaFonz]

Looking at getting into dragon boat this year. Any tips on how to register with a club? I checked a couple of sites already but not too sure where to go.
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Recruiting Centre (http://www.dragonboatwest.net/index.php?board=13.0)

Go visit a couple teams and check it out.... or better yet, learn flatwater
FCRCC - Flatwater (http://www.fcrcc.com/programs/flatwater)

Kayaks > dragonboat

[goaleR]

Thanks guys! My buddy and I dragon boated back in high school and want to get back into it (after 10years haha).

[ancient_510]

learn flatwater
FCRCC - Flatwater (http://www.fcrcc.com/programs/flatwater)

Kayaks > dragonboat

Uh... do I know you?

[DaFonz]

Uh... do I know you?

Probably.