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El Bastardo
06-01-2009, 11:52 AM
It deserves it's own thread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u-hxCvGEas
Chairman Kaga
06-01-2009, 12:14 PM
Instead of the token black guy they made it the token white guy :lol
Game looks like it's taking more ofa TF2 style
wouwou
06-01-2009, 12:22 PM
OMFG Melee weapons lol
That will be wicked under suvival mode
Ikkaku
06-01-2009, 12:28 PM
so they're gonna release a new L4D every year? those bastards :lol
Presto
06-01-2009, 01:33 PM
Oh Hell YES!!!
BlackV62K2
06-01-2009, 02:00 PM
Sweet!!!! Cant wait for this one.
El Bastardo
06-01-2009, 02:27 PM
We managed to get some vids snagged of the gameplay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUAhEC7_ZUQ
Check out the incendiary bullets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZTAeCVI4eU
Sorry about my cheesy jokes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK2xDnDT2Hw
BlackV62K2
06-01-2009, 02:40 PM
2 black people this time? Where's the asian player lol. I know this one takes place in Southern States but there's gotta be @ least one asian survivor there lol.
twitchyzero
06-01-2009, 02:42 PM
^ i like how some infected are in hazmat suits.
seems like its setting supposed to represent new orleans?
chainsaw on tank should be epic
but i still stand by the fact that this should've been a $20 add-on to L4D. Historically, Valve doesn't sell a game as a full-fledged sequel unless it's using a new engine...or at least debut it in spring 2010 as the original game still has much shelf-life from the new Surival Pack
BlackV62K2
06-01-2009, 02:52 PM
http://blastmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/left_4_dead_the_parish.jpg
Italian mobster, Da Brat, Kimbo Slice or Uncle Phil from Fresh Prince, the Scout from TF2
lol
meepmeepdeath
06-01-2009, 03:57 PM
couldve made this as an expansion to the first..
DanHibiki
06-01-2009, 04:15 PM
i dun like how it's day time, not as scary, doesn't set the mood as well.
BlackV62K2
06-01-2009, 04:37 PM
i dun like how it's day time, not as scary, doesn't set the mood as well.
Well it's not like Left 4 Dead is scary or anything. At least I dont get scared playing it lol
DanHibiki
06-01-2009, 04:46 PM
I know its not but it feels more right when it's dark
underscore
06-01-2009, 05:36 PM
^ if it started as daytime, and fades to sunset then night, could be fun.
Presto
06-01-2009, 09:26 PM
Well it's not like Left 4 Dead is scary or anything. At least I dont get scared playing it lol
At first, L4D was scary for me, and the people I played with. There were a lot of surprises in the beginning, like the first horde rush, witch/tank encounters, worrying about what lurks around the corner, etc. I know I screamed a lot as I wildly fired my shotgun in all directions. :) We feared the witch for a long time. Now I just rub up against her to piss her off, and shoot her in the face.
Looks the same really.
They need a huge rambo gun that just shreds them up.
.Renn.Sport
06-01-2009, 10:25 PM
no zoey....meh
wahyinghung
06-01-2009, 10:49 PM
loving it ! All they need to do is to make a PS3 Ver ........
twitchyzero
06-01-2009, 11:00 PM
never saw $$$$$ in Valve's eyes until this announcement
ps3 version would suck..i wonder how people play it on xbox....especially when hordes run so fast
edit: wtf...g reed gets censored into $$$$$?
El Bastardo
06-02-2009, 12:05 AM
This game starts out in Savannah, Georgia and heads to New Orleans. On the way they appear to hit Jackson, Mississippi and work their way through the bayou as well.
This game is entirely set in the south.
The big black guy is a high school coach. The woman is a chick from Cleveland covering the outbreak for a cable news network. The redneck/scout looking guy is a mechanic. The guy in the suit is a compulsive gambler.
yangwenli
06-02-2009, 01:14 AM
people will be all over Modern Warfare 2 instead of this piece of shit
the original is awesome. the 2nd one better have MORE GUNS.
DanHibiki
06-02-2009, 09:29 AM
Introducing the AI Director 2.0, L4D's dynamic gameplay is taken to the next level by giving the Director the ability to procedurally change weather effects, world objects, and pathways in addition to tailoring the enemy population, effects, and sounds to match the players' performance. The result is a unique game session custom fitted to provide a satisfying and uniquely challenging experience each time the game is played.
Featuring new Survivors, boss zombies, weapons, and items, Left 4 Dead 2 offers a much larger game than the original with more co-operative campaigns, more Versus campaigns, and maps for Survival mode available at launch.
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604Sparda
06-02-2009, 10:33 AM
They also said they will introduce with a new game mode. Any idea what that may be?
We basically paid $50 to beta test for this game.
Presto
06-02-2009, 11:22 AM
^^^
I don't see how we're beta testers. L4D 1 was complete, and didn't have too many bugs. L4D 2 isn't a release to correct issues with the first one. It just expands on what made the first one great. Along with a bunch of other people here, I only paid $25 for it when it went on sale.
El Bastardo
06-07-2009, 03:44 AM
Ch28 isn't alone in his accusation tho. I've been reading about similar sentiment all over the web.
Hitler isn't too happy either
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQe4tlsfRbY
Simplex123
06-07-2009, 08:45 AM
^ LOOOL hitler's a huuugggee valve fanboy
underscore
06-07-2009, 10:31 AM
unless it has a new engine, this shouldn't count as a new game
TOPEC
06-07-2009, 11:51 AM
aw y they get rid of zoey
^^^
I don't see how we're beta testers. L4D 1 was complete, and didn't have too many bugs. L4D 2 isn't a release to correct issues with the first one. It just expands on what made the first one great. Along with a bunch of other people here, I only paid $25 for it when it went on sale.
Ch28 isn't alone in his accusation tho. I've been reading about similar sentiment all over the web.
Werd!
A lot of people (including myself) are pretty upset at this "sequel"
We were promised significant content after the release of the game (just like most multiplayer oriented Valve games) and weren't offered them. It took them how many months to put out the SDK for the public to use?
The game is coming out ~a year after L4D was put out which means they basically started work on this game once L4D was complete. So much for the promises of significant content :mad:
Looks like Blizzard is the only "good" video game dev now lol
El Bastardo
06-07-2009, 03:12 PM
^ LOOOL hitler's a huuugggee valve fanboy
You know, I've seen Downfall and that scene actually isn't all that interesting. I have no idea why people keep using it in vids like that.
JHuJHu
06-07-2009, 06:33 PM
fack. i agree. they shoulda just made a expansiion.... l4d came out only in the last year....
DanHibiki
06-07-2009, 06:57 PM
if you think about it like a sport game (a new game every year) then it's not so bad!
orange7
06-07-2009, 07:41 PM
the player in those vids is a newb. You reload faster when you use melee (right click) while reloading.
underscore
06-07-2009, 10:42 PM
^ unless they changed that for L4D 2
Bastardo I think its just the variety of situations it can be bent to with subtitles.
Yuhsuke
06-12-2009, 09:46 PM
they should of at least waited like a couple of years b4 releasing left 4 dead 2 or at least what others have mentioned, and expansion.
40ft e-Peen
06-13-2009, 09:19 PM
looks fun, they should make it lan-able?
Ulic Qel-Droma
10-28-2009, 07:50 AM
who else has theirs preordered?
twitchyzero
10-28-2009, 08:14 AM
im surprised they didnt' release this trailer on halloween
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBC-7qodzbY
Presto
10-28-2009, 08:33 AM
That was an awesome trailer. I am fuckin' stoked!!
tonyvu
10-28-2009, 09:42 AM
Got mine Preordered! Can't wait to play the demo today if it does come out :)
man so pissed about this but i will still probably get it.
TOS'd
10-28-2009, 12:29 PM
im still in the process of finding ppl to split the four pack ):
dont want pay full price for this one i bought thefirst one at full price right when it was released for like $5x
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^ how many people you got? Ill pitch in if you pre order
lilaznviper
10-28-2009, 01:46 PM
i bought the 4 pack with my friends and came to about 37 bucks each person
now the wait for it to be released
way2quik
10-28-2009, 01:57 PM
as much as i want to test this out, im waiting till this game reaches $20.
after being mia for l4d1 for months, iono if this is worth it.
red_2
10-28-2009, 02:10 PM
the new trailor just sold me on it
illicitstylz
10-28-2009, 02:18 PM
dude after playing so many games, this is the first one i've actually pre-ordered.
split it as a group of 4, just waiting on the release in mid nov, which is unfortunately right before finals . . .
Meowjin
10-28-2009, 03:20 PM
valve demo fail >:(
Crowtservo
10-28-2009, 03:27 PM
valve demo fail >:(
true. So many delays.
tonyvu
10-28-2009, 04:19 PM
For those who prepurchase the DEMO is out
veery stoked. pre-ordered!!!!!!
orange7
10-28-2009, 05:33 PM
so when is starcraft 2 coming out?
Ulic Qel-Droma
10-29-2009, 02:14 AM
the hardest mode is crazy, insane.
illicitstylz
10-29-2009, 03:42 AM
i just did a quick run through of the first campaign.
they say it's running the same engine as l4d which I had no issues with but it's a lot choppier for me running l4d2.
As powerful as the melee weapons + kick is, i miss the dual pistol action to provide some ranged firing when toting a shotgun..
Crowtservo
10-29-2009, 08:20 AM
i just did a quick run through of the first campaign.
they say it's running the same engine as l4d which I had no issues with but it's a lot choppier for me running l4d2.
As powerful as the melee weapons + kick is, i miss the dual pistol action to provide some ranged firing when toting a shotgun..
I've heard people saying it's choppy but mine wasn't at all. Also, you can still get dual pistols, you don't HAVE to have a melee weapon.
The demo was a little disappointing only in that it was too short. I was really hoping to be able to play through an entire campaign not just the first two levels. No epic final battle. Already beat it on hardcore, now I just gotta wait for the release.
TOS'd
10-29-2009, 08:26 AM
The demo was a little disappointing only in that it was too short. I was really hoping to be able to play through an entire campaign not just the first two levels. No epic final battle. Already beat it on hardcore, now I just gotta wait for the release.
Guess you weren't there for the first L4D demo.
SlySi
10-29-2009, 01:33 PM
the hardest mode is crazy, insane.
As it should be!
Will definitely get it for my xbox.
they say it's running the same engine as l4d which I had no issues with but it's a lot choppier for me running l4d2.
As powerful as the melee weapons + kick is, i miss the dual pistol action to provide some ranged firing when toting a shotgun..
Try disabling the multicore option in the advanced video options, it stopped some stuttering I had.
Also, dual pistols are in the demo - just grab a second one off the ground and you got yer dual pistols.
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/5461/left4dead22009102901123.th.jpg (http://img257.imageshack.us/i/left4dead22009102901123.jpg/)
Guess you weren't there for the first L4D demo.
I had more fun in the demo L4D demo than I did in the final game, I think I burned myself out on the 1.5 levels. I'm trying not to do that this time.
Ulic Qel-Droma
10-29-2009, 08:25 PM
machete is the fuckin best.
twitchyzero
10-29-2009, 09:31 PM
The demo was a little disappointing only in that it was too short. I was really hoping to be able to play through an entire campaign not just the first two levels. No epic final battle. Already beat it on hardcore, now I just gotta wait for the release.
How can you expect them to give you a full campagin if that's gonna be 20% of the game on release date lol
underscore
10-30-2009, 07:41 AM
^ plus they wouldn't want to give a full demo because people already roughly know how L4D works. they just needed to put out enough of a demo to suck people in.
Crowtservo
10-30-2009, 07:49 AM
How can you expect them to give you a full campagin if that's gonna be 20% of the game on release date lol
I don't think that's unreasonable. My point was I played the entire demo (advanced then hardcore) in less than an hour and now have to wait 3 weeks for release. Since there are only the first 2 levels of the campaign there isn't really any replayability to it so there is nothing to do but wait.
Ikkaku
10-30-2009, 12:13 PM
and then once they reach 5 campaigns, you guys will have to fork out another $50 for L4D3 :lol
Ulic Qel-Droma
10-30-2009, 11:24 PM
Since there are only the first 2 levels of the campaign there isn't really any replayability to it so there is nothing to do but wait.
...how old are you? lol, isnt that what a DEMO is supposed to be? I'm surprised they even gave us the first two levels.
most demo's are just like 1 mission, or some other really short ass thing. it's a DEMO man.
underscore
10-31-2009, 02:11 AM
^ Exactly. I half figured it would be one of those timed demos but those kinda piss people off.
Since there are only the first 2 levels of the campaign there isn't really any replayability to it so there is nothing to do but wait.
Do you even know what a demo is for? It's not supposed to have replayability, if it did, people wouldn't buy the game. Games that come out with huge demos you never feel like buying because you get most of what you want out of the demo. they're only supposed to give you a taste, and their goal is to have you wanting moar.
jeff19
10-31-2009, 11:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQe4tlsfRbY&feature=related
TOS'd
10-31-2009, 11:38 AM
^ wow whoever made that fails. he said he must have killed over a million zombies, yet he said last night he just got zombie genocide which is like 53k zombies or something.
Got my pre-order for the game.
Can't wait!
illicitstylz
11-16-2009, 12:36 PM
L4D2 Release November 16th 9PM Pacific
hotong
11-16-2009, 12:51 PM
is l4d2 going to be as short as l4d1? i got bored of the game in 2 weeks playing the same levels all over again.
L4D2 Release November 16th 9PM Pacific
Make sure you guys pre-load the game if you already pre-ordered. The game is almost 6.5GB so it'll take a long time to download if you try to get it tonight since the servers will be hammered.
Shotgun + Machete = invincible :D
illicitstylz
11-16-2009, 04:58 PM
is l4d2 going to be as short as l4d1? i got bored of the game in 2 weeks playing the same levels all over again.
that's why you play versus, even though maps are the same, it's completely different once you step into multiplayer.
a VERY good read on the new l4d2 maps/weapons/game modes/new special and common infected
http://www.zombicidal.com/l4d2/#achievements
preloading at 50.7% i hope i'll make it in time LOL
lilaznviper
11-16-2009, 07:51 PM
preloaded it a couple days ago
now just waiting it to be release!!!!!
Grandmaster TSE
11-16-2009, 08:03 PM
its time!!!!!
terkan
11-16-2009, 08:10 PM
Now we know valve can't keep to their deadlines. Same thing happened with the demo.
illicitstylz
11-16-2009, 08:11 PM
lol good thing in a way, my pre-loading is taking forever, been going since 4pm and its only 81%
the steam l4d2 forums can't even load probably due to server overload lol
TOS'd
11-16-2009, 08:45 PM
is it up? mine says its still not live...
illicitstylz
11-16-2009, 08:50 PM
it's delayed even though on the official l4d2 site it said 9pm pacific.
chances are it's delayed, the steam forums are overloaded lol everyone is complaining
Ikkaku
11-16-2009, 08:54 PM
so are they hooking up free accounts for the trouble, like with l4d? HAHA
TRDood
11-16-2009, 09:10 PM
sorry to sound stupid. i haven't played computer games in my PC since CS1.5...
is there a way to pay for the game online and download it online?
i don't feel like searching everywhere for a copy of the game.
how does this work? i just installed steam and downloading the demo.. lol
i know the game is 7.5gb, but it doesn't really matter cuz shaw extreme is fucking fast.
terkan
11-16-2009, 09:10 PM
it's up restart steam
lilaznviper
11-16-2009, 09:45 PM
mines still down
edit
slowly decrypting the game files...
lilaznviper
11-16-2009, 10:01 PM
started it and it lags like crazy
guess i'll play tmr
orange7
11-16-2009, 11:35 PM
sorry to sound stupid. i haven't played computer games in my PC since CS1.5...
is there a way to pay for the game online and download it online?
i don't feel like searching everywhere for a copy of the game.
how does this work? i just installed steam and downloading the demo.. lol
i know the game is 7.5gb, but it doesn't really matter cuz shaw extreme is fucking fast.
how fast is shaw xtreme speed for you?
I'm running on it too, and it's quite slow.
illicitstylz
11-17-2009, 12:56 AM
it's working fine for the last 3 hours that I played.
This new update, wow definitely makes the game so much more difficult and challenging.
The biggest challenge is the rolling crescendos, where you have to pick up gas tanks/run through a maze etc instead of in L4D1 where you just sit in a corner and weather the storm.
and TRDood. Just open up steam, go to the STORE tab, and purchase steam there, it's practically instant.
TOS'd
11-17-2009, 01:11 AM
OMGGGggggg carnival campaign is a bitch.
.Renn.Sport
11-17-2009, 01:13 AM
realism + expert is almost impossible
TRDood
11-17-2009, 02:15 AM
yea.. just read more about it and found out that i can buy it on steam.
does that mean since i dont own a hard copy, if steam ever goes under or gets hacked or fucks up. i will be SOL?
the concept is good. but wheres the insurance?
sorry for thinking like a mother. lol
i download at about 2mb/sec. which is not bad.
haha. i downloaded the demo at sfu earlier at 2.1mb/sec. it only took 15 mins! its pretty fun. a lot more challenging tho.
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Ulic Qel-Droma
11-17-2009, 05:40 AM
realism is fuckin hard man, cant see god damn items, can't see god damn people. can't play with god damn random ppl online, if you do=death.
OMGGGggggg carnival campaign is a bitch.
the last part with the non stop rush of zombies down that corridor did us in
tonyvu
11-17-2009, 10:12 AM
Realism is a bitch of a mode
El Bastardo
11-17-2009, 10:16 AM
The game feels so much more different then L4D1. I think the laser sight was un-necessary.
El Bastardo
11-17-2009, 10:17 AM
Also, add me up on XBL - Canadian Xpress. I'm only finding idiots to play with.
the last part with the non stop rush of zombies down that corridor did us in
i know that part fight infront of the saferoom on the carnival level 4 had so many zombies coming out of nowhere, so hard to get into the saferoom.
Grandmaster TSE
11-17-2009, 11:05 AM
the last part with the non stop rush of zombies down that corridor did us in
we just hero our way in with katana's :thumbsup:
hotong
11-17-2009, 12:20 PM
so is this way better than l4d1?
TOS'd
11-17-2009, 12:44 PM
^ Yes
LF: 3 dedicated ppl to play all campaigns in expert mode with mics, 1 sitting. :D
we just hero our way in with katana's :thumbsup:
axe ftw
axe ftw
WRONG!
chainsaw ftw!:haha::haha:
TOS'd
11-17-2009, 01:29 PM
anyone want to play now?
yadoh
11-17-2009, 02:23 PM
nvm
!oHenry
11-17-2009, 02:27 PM
^ Yes
LF: 3 dedicated ppl to play all campaigns in expert mode with mics, 1 sitting. :D
Im down:thumbsup:
lilaznviper
11-17-2009, 10:59 PM
Set down a time for tmr and let's play
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twitchyzero
11-17-2009, 11:16 PM
does this game really feel like a sequel?
Is it worth another $60 only after 1 year since L4D's debut?
I played the demo but it wasn't representative of the whole package..
.Renn.Sport
11-18-2009, 01:14 AM
does this game really feel like a sequel?
Is it worth another $60 only after 1 year since L4D's debut?
I played the demo but it wasn't representative of the whole package..
yes, you can't really use the first game's strategy for the new one
Tim Budong
11-18-2009, 05:25 AM
my god...CARNIVAL campaign KICKS ASS SOO MUCH
bloody rollercoaster part was insane!
i will complete that stupid gnome achievement as well as the whackamole and gong show
Ulic Qel-Droma
11-18-2009, 05:29 AM
this game is really fun
I only play advanced/expert mode, or realism (advanced).
of course I have yet to pass the game.
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.Renn.Sport
11-18-2009, 07:32 AM
my god...CARNIVAL campaign KICKS ASS SOO MUCH
bloody rollercoaster part was insane!
i will complete that stupid gnome achievement as well as the whackamole and gong show
i did those achievements today LOL
but Hard Rain is fucking tough and seems like a rip, since they only used 2 or 3 maps and count as 5 chapters
El Bastardo
11-18-2009, 12:37 PM
^^ Hyde is right. At least it was a little different on the way back.
But the weather effects are awesome. Has anyone gotten the achievements to avoid the witches yet?
way2quik
11-18-2009, 05:44 PM
39.99 at ncix now.
33 left.
you heard it here first.
>.<
It is cheaper if you do group buy off Steam, by a few bucks. But for those who cannot find 3 others, this is a great deal.
twitchyzero
11-18-2009, 09:38 PM
^ I just bought mine half hour ago for $60 fook...i just check NCIX and it's back up to $60 and it's still in stock? wth
anyone up for a game right now?
ra1nn
11-18-2009, 09:43 PM
my god...CARNIVAL campaign KICKS ASS SOO MUCH
bloody rollercoaster part was insane!
i will complete that stupid gnome achievement as well as the whackamole and gong show
i totally agree! played versus @ the carnival map and the detail is amazing!
:)
lilaznviper
11-18-2009, 09:50 PM
need people to play with
so far playing with other people on normal and higher its an instant dead and restart
underscore
11-18-2009, 10:23 PM
HOLY SHIT I didn't think my laptop could run this, friend told me to check anyways, it says I can *squee* demo loading meow.
TOS'd
11-18-2009, 10:33 PM
Im up for a game whenever, just pm me your steam names/accounts to add.
.Renn.Sport
11-19-2009, 12:36 AM
^^ Hyde is right. At least it was a little different on the way back.
But the weather effects are awesome. Has anyone gotten the achievements to avoid the witches yet?
that one wasnt too hard, just melee your way in to avoid shooting the witches
but can't be done with Ai around
who ever can beat hard rain on expert + realism will be the GOD of L4D
tonyvu
11-19-2009, 03:18 AM
Anyone wanna play this game hardcore just PM me so we can beat this shit on expert then realism
Ulic Qel-Droma
11-19-2009, 05:02 AM
I'm ho316 on steam, always up for a challenge, uh yeah normal is too easy, but advanced is a little too hard at sometimes, expert is... well yeah, realism.. HAH.
TOS'd
11-19-2009, 06:59 AM
Hard Rain + Realism, later today? I'm down anytime after lunch.
tonyvu
11-19-2009, 08:47 AM
^lol a bit tricky... cause the heavy rain drowns out teammates mics, but i'm up for the challenge.
PsycHo_DraGoN69
11-19-2009, 11:48 AM
does anyone know any cheap places to get this game?
i have a gift card for $60 to futureshop, so i want to price match. NCIX took down their $40 deal so I can't price match them anymore =(
TOS'd
11-19-2009, 11:51 AM
does anyone know any cheap places to get this game?
i have a gift card for $60 to futureshop, so i want to price match. NCIX took down their $40 deal so I can't price match them anymore =(
not even sure if you could have priced matched with ncix's $40 deal. something about you cant price match sale prices etc. i tried before on something else and the guy said i could only price match from the other place's regular price, so i only saved a couple bucks.
PsycHo_DraGoN69
11-19-2009, 11:54 AM
not even sure if you could have priced matched with ncix's $40 deal. something about you cant price match sale prices etc. i tried before on something else and the guy said i could only price match from the other place's regular price, so i only saved a couple bucks.
really? Staples price matches anything 110% as long as it's the identical item (including model # of the item)
I would have thought FS would be the same way... but I guess not? hmmmm. Lame FS giftcard... ahaha
tonyvu
11-19-2009, 12:39 PM
Who's down PM me!!!!
underscore
11-19-2009, 01:57 PM
FS - will match sale prices if you have a flier and the competition has stock (hit and miss on stock, some employees don't care).
Staples - will pricematch -10%, I showed them the price on Walmarts site.
Zellers - will pricematch if you show them a flier, in my experience never checked competitor stock.
TRDood
11-19-2009, 02:04 PM
can anyone tell me the process of buying the 4 pack on steam?
what happens after i pay the $150USD?
do i get 4 CD keys and send them to 3 other accounts whenever i please?
TRDood
11-19-2009, 02:06 PM
FS - will match sale prices if you have a flier and the competition has stock (hit and miss on stock, some employees don't care).
Staples - will pricematch -10%, I showed them the price on Walmarts site.
Zellers - will pricematch if you show them a flier, in my experience never checked competitor stock.
depends on the store manager still.
FS in landsdowne are bitches, they do not PM NCIX or any other non big box stores.
FS on broadway will PM anything, everything, no questions asked as long as you have proof.
i once got an ink cartridge for $30 when the price on FS was $110 =DDDD
underscore
11-19-2009, 02:09 PM
woah that's an even bigger score than mine, I PM'd Walmart @ Staples and got my MP3 player for $20 instead of $60, then PM'd Walmart @ Zellers for the last copy of Assassins Creed in this town for $9. Too bad I don't like the game, but ah well.
twitchyzero
11-19-2009, 03:37 PM
if anyone's looking for a copy on PC check my sig thanks
!oHenry
11-19-2009, 08:48 PM
Anyone else have their achievements reset? I had 15 now they are all gone.
twitchyzero
11-19-2009, 08:56 PM
^ just you i think
tonyvu
11-19-2009, 10:14 PM
Anyone else have their achievements reset? I had 15 now they are all gone.
i got that too, they going to patch it up soon, same with if you have incendiary ammo, then you can't kill the witch its a glitch
BlackV62K2
11-19-2009, 10:50 PM
L4D 2 is definitely a lot harder than L4D 1.....I'm actually having a little trouble playing on Normal. I can play L4D 1 on expert no problem. Guess I need to get more familiar with the maps.
twitchyzero
11-19-2009, 11:04 PM
^ werd...i think there's a glitch in surivor mode...my teammates kept getting incap'd for no apparent reason...we were thinking that maybe it's the spitter's acid thaat didn't show up but we couldnt find spitter around us...so wierd
TRDood
11-20-2009, 12:18 AM
if anyone wants to play
my steam ID: TRDude
add thekidkiller if you wanna play a game
illicitstylz
11-20-2009, 06:44 PM
the versus now is basically designed for survivors to not make it to the end, which is what makes it so much more fun!
twitchyzero
11-20-2009, 07:12 PM
steam: twitchyzero
has anyone passed the finale of dead center on vs? It's like impossible...
lilaznviper
11-20-2009, 07:58 PM
i added a couple of you guys
hotong
11-20-2009, 10:03 PM
my steam is coryou msg me if you want to play.
TypeRNammer
11-20-2009, 10:11 PM
Any good deals for l4d2 going on right now?
twitchyzero
11-20-2009, 11:03 PM
i racked up 35 hours in the past week with this game and MW2...now I'm so fucked for school fffook :(
I'm closing steam until i can get some work done
lilaznviper
11-20-2009, 11:16 PM
i racked up 35 hours in the past week with this game and MW2...now I'm so fucked for school fffook :(
I'm closing steam until i can get some work done
Same I got finals next week and have yet to read the textbook
Posted via RS Mobile (http://www.revscene.net/forums/announcement.php?a=228)
winson604
11-21-2009, 01:22 AM
Has anybody done the gnome achievement yet? It's pretty hardcore lol
TOS'd
11-21-2009, 01:41 AM
^ I have, pretty fun one to do lol. Same with the other Carnival ones.
Hope theres a holiday sale on STEAM coming soon.
Has anybody done the gnome achievement yet? It's pretty hardcore lol
i let my team die just for that achievement, its a bitch to do, especially at that part right before you get into the stadium.
winson604
11-21-2009, 02:58 PM
^ I have, pretty fun one to do lol. Same with the other Carnival ones.
No doubt the other ones are pretty fun fo sho.
mc. - Yea that part can be a bitch in general I spent so long on that the other day because I just so happen to be playing with 3 other fucking noobs who kept dieing at the start of that section and I was left alone every time.
twitchyzero
11-21-2009, 03:01 PM
i was playing with mc in that section...we ran it 4 times on advanced and only 1 guy survived with 1hp haha.
am i the only one that thinks spitter is too strong and jockey is only useful when there's a ledge?
oh and after today's update many people are having their games crashing after the cutscene intro..I'm reinstalling as we speak
ra1nn
11-21-2009, 09:11 PM
when i play versus.. sometimes i get stuck in spectator.. does anyone else have this problem too? :(
TRDood
11-21-2009, 10:08 PM
i see a lot of you guys added me to steam, but it doesn't show up on my friend's list.
solution?
twitchyzero
11-21-2009, 11:30 PM
^go to steam, community button, then click on invite.
I'm totally locked out of L4D2...i keep crashing after intro cutscene =(
El Bastardo
11-21-2009, 11:46 PM
Has anybody done the gnome achievement yet? It's pretty hardcore lol
I did all of those achievements at the same time. I grabbed the gnome, did my test of strength, and won whack a mole. I also honked all of the noses of all of the clowns.
That was rough
illicitstylz
11-24-2009, 10:15 AM
when i play versus.. sometimes i get stuck in spectator.. does anyone else have this problem too? :(
when i first initially load in to the game/ some rounds.
i just push m and select the team i was originally in.
TypeRNammer
11-27-2009, 11:49 AM
I have an extra online copy of Left for Dead 2, sale pending
twitchyzero
11-27-2009, 01:44 PM
l4d2 is so cheap today on steam...
4pack works out to be $28USD per person
i still cant believe i bought it for $60 10 days ago =(
illicitstylz
11-27-2009, 01:55 PM
i don't mind paying $50 for mine, it's worth every dollar :D
especially with all the charger instakill spots in DEADCENTER LOL
Tim Budong
11-27-2009, 01:58 PM
ITS SOO BLODDY AWESOME OMG OMG OMG OMG
i just played with friends at DNA yesterday
i lost my voice screaming
illicitstylz
11-27-2009, 02:48 PM
ITS SOO BLODDY AWESOME OMG OMG OMG OMG
i just played with friends at DNA yesterday
i lost my voice screaming
someone posted a link to gamestop to buy the game for 24.99
if you like the game, you'll spend way more than 24.99 just playing it at internet cafes.
plus, more convenient and you can have your own account for achievements/stats etc
worth every dollar
ra1nn
11-27-2009, 02:54 PM
apparently if u go to eb games and trade in a game over 8$ then u get the game for 20$
don't know how long this special is going on for tho
wingies
11-27-2009, 03:02 PM
^^ I know I spent so much already the last few days playing at rush. But it costs way too much for me to upgrade my computer to even begin running this game
BlackV62K2
11-27-2009, 04:03 PM
l4d2 is so cheap today on steam...
4pack works out to be $28USD per person
i still cant believe i bought it for $60 10 days ago =(
+1....ohh well. This game is worth it :)
Tim Budong
11-27-2009, 06:28 PM
someone posted a link to gamestop to buy the game for 24.99
if you like the game, you'll spend way more than 24.99 just playing it at internet cafes.
plus, more convenient and you can have your own account for achievements/stats etc
worth every dollar
lol
i already own it
but when u get some friends together, its fine, not everyone has a good enuff laptop to run tis anways
JSALES
11-28-2009, 01:46 AM
looks like fun haha
illicitstylz
11-28-2009, 03:17 AM
just played two campaigns and 3 rounds of vs. so tired lol
El Bastardo
11-28-2009, 09:12 PM
For anyone who may be interested: Steam is having a sale for the next few hours on Left 4 Dead 1. $8 USD
dub.g
11-28-2009, 11:47 PM
ya, the first left 4 dead online community is still very active.. due to mods..
buy it!
but honestly, L4D2 is worth the $40, not the full retail game price.. i can justify the sale price from friday, which is i jumped in and bought it right away..
i seriously hate the jockey now more than the hunter, i find them harder to kill just before they approach you
TypeRNammer
11-29-2009, 04:51 AM
I have two extra copies available for L4D2, one friend got impulsive and bought it at BestBuy so that explains the extra copy.
Letting them go for $32 dollars each.
Now the catch is I will only accept INTERAC ® Email Money Transfer, and I'm with CIBC.
illicitstylz
11-29-2009, 11:36 PM
l4dnao's FIRST l4d2 frag video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7E1odr5ge4
ra1nn
11-29-2009, 11:45 PM
ncix has it for 30 now i believe
orange7
11-29-2009, 11:59 PM
just tried got at DNA, and dammm the graphic is soo nice!
hotong
11-30-2009, 08:11 AM
ncyx has it for 30 now i believe
such a huge price drop already, I should of waited
BlackV62K2
11-30-2009, 08:22 PM
Randoms ppl on Expert + Realism = Fail. So many idiots online! Anyone able to finish expert + realism yet?
Ikkaku
11-30-2009, 09:26 PM
the ncix deal i think is for the special monday sale... prices should go back to normal by tomorrow
Tim Budong
11-30-2009, 09:52 PM
yea it was for today only
my buddy bought a HDD
the ncix deal i think is for the special monday sale... prices should go back to normal by tomorrow
its still monday and it costs 59.99
TypeRNammer
12-01-2009, 08:23 AM
I have two extra copies available for L4D2, one friend got impulsive and bought it at BestBuy so that explains the extra copy.
Letting them go for $32 dollars each.
Now the catch is I will only accept INTERAC ® Email Money Transfer, and I'm with CIBC.
One more left:thumbsup:
TOS'd
12-01-2009, 08:43 AM
l4dnao's FIRST l4d2 frag video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7E1odr5ge4
Too bad there is no epic charger kill. One where one guy gets taken down and the other three get knocked off the map.
One more left:thumbsup:
if its sealed. ill take it.
Ikkaku
12-01-2009, 11:11 PM
its still monday and it costs 59.99
they sold out of their set aside quantity for the deal... probably got raped by RFD members :lol
wahyinghung
12-01-2009, 11:11 PM
Just picked up my copy today @ future shop gonna have to wait until the weekends before I start playing and gonna need reactivate my live account as well.........
twitchyzero
12-01-2009, 11:36 PM
we should get a l4d2 night going for RS members on versus mode after our finals :lol
Ikkaku
12-01-2009, 11:53 PM
more like a net cafe night ... so people can call each other out, be all hardcore and stuff and then realize they can't hide behind their monitors anymore
tonyvu
12-02-2009, 01:01 AM
^wheres the fun in that :D
TRDood
12-02-2009, 01:12 AM
im so proud of myself that i have gone 5 days without playing.
i can't play until Dec15!!!
Tim Budong
12-02-2009, 02:10 AM
we should get a l4d2 night going for RS members on versus mode after our finals :lol
I SO AGREE WITH THIS
LOLOL
or even find a place and LAN IT UP
Ulic Qel-Droma
12-02-2009, 03:35 AM
we should get a l4d2 night going for RS members on versus mode after our finals :lol
lol hell yeah!
Ulic Qel-Droma
12-02-2009, 03:37 AM
ok so i keep getting msgs that ppl on steam have added me (from RS), but after the msg goes away, how the fuck do i keep track of who's added me? i don't see them on my list!
TOS'd
12-02-2009, 07:01 AM
Click steam icon on systray. Go to Community. Then Invites, you will see a number in a green notification bubble.
Posted via RS Mobile (http://www.revscene.net/forums/announcement.php?a=228)
twitchyzero
12-02-2009, 04:13 PM
we should get a l4d2 night going for RS members on versus mode after our finals :lol
Tues Dec 22 10:30pm
1. twitchyzero
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
*please have your steamID name too*
:lol
Tues Dec 22 10:30pm
1. twitchyzero
2. mc.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
havnt got around to versus yet, but hell yeah!
TOS'd
12-02-2009, 06:59 PM
Tues Dec 22 10:30pm
1. twitchyzero
2. mc.
3. TOS'd
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
lilaznviper
12-02-2009, 07:50 PM
bad day... i have midterms that week
bcit program FTL...
now if it was a thursday or friday im in
TRDood
12-02-2009, 10:16 PM
Tues Dec 22 10:30pm
1. twitchyzero
2. mc.
3. TOS'd
4. TRDood (Rape the Witch)
5.
6.
7.
8.
i will be on 24/7 after my finals!
twitchyzero
12-02-2009, 11:03 PM
^+1...other than work i can finally enjoy my backlog of games :)
bad day... i have midterms that week
bcit program FTL...
now if it was a thursday or friday im in
wtf? your exam doesnt end until the xmas eve?
is anyone else having issues with their game...my game is crashing after intro ..AGAIN after the stupid patch from yesterday
TOS'd
12-02-2009, 11:19 PM
^ havent touched my game for a good 6-7 days.
tonyvu
12-02-2009, 11:22 PM
Tues Dec 22 10:30pm
1. twitchyzero
2. mc.
3. TOS'd
4. TRDood (Rape the Witch)
5. tonyvu
6.
7.
8.
VooDood
12-02-2009, 11:30 PM
1. twitchyzero
2. mc.
3. TOS'd
4. TRDood (Rape the Witch)
5. tonyvu
6.Voodood - add me on steam Okitora
7.
8.
illicitstylz
12-03-2009, 12:12 AM
1. twitchyzero
2. mc.
3. TOS'd
4. TRDood (Rape the Witch)
5. tonyvu
6.Voodood - add me on steam Okitora
7. _precision ` (i'll join the rs.net group that day)
8.
Tim Budong
12-03-2009, 12:52 AM
1. twitchyzero
2. mc.
3. TOS'd
4. TRDood (Rape the Witch)
5. tonyvu
6.Voodood - add me on steam Okitora
7. _precision ` (i'll join the rs.net group that day)
8. darthchilli (williamchack, thats my steam name)
Ulic Qel-Droma
12-03-2009, 01:19 AM
lol fuck
9. Ulic Qel-Droma
I'll be jerkin myself.
TOS'd
12-03-2009, 01:52 PM
^ I'm sure you will get a spot. Someone is going to drop out forsure.
twitchyzero
12-03-2009, 09:40 PM
we'll have 2 back-ups just in case someone flakes
yeah..i hope everyone's got a mic or you shouldnt be playing this game in the first place haha.
1. twitchyzero
2. mc.
3. TOS'd
4. TRDood (Rape the Witch)
5. tonyvu
6.Voodood - add me on steam Okitora
7. _precision ` (i'll join the rs.net group that day)
8. darthchilli (williamchack, thats my steam name)
9. ulic
10.
VooDood
12-03-2009, 09:44 PM
i got a vent server we can use if we need.
TOS'd
12-03-2009, 10:02 PM
So... 1-4 vs 5-8?
twitchyzero
12-03-2009, 10:12 PM
^ nah we'll mix it up a bit
we could just random the teams
tonyvu
12-04-2009, 09:51 AM
i got a vent server we can use if we need.
ahah same, hopefully everyone got mics, cause i've yet to see a guy type out "help zombies are buttfucking me" while hes getting buttfucked by a billion zombies :haha:
tonyvu
12-06-2009, 02:57 AM
1. twitchyzero
2. mc.
3. TOS'd
4. TRDood (Rape the Witch)
5.
6.Voodood - add me on steam Okitora
7. _precision ` (i'll join the rs.net group that day)
8. darthchilli (williamchack, thats my steam name)
i'm pulling out cause my buddy just got my steam account banned. fml
someone else can fill in.
TOS'd
12-06-2009, 03:25 AM
^ wow wtf??????
and yea im pulling out for now. ive gotten bored of the game. if its down a player or something ill fill in closer to the 22nd.
1. twitchyzero
2. mc.
3.
4. TRDood (Rape the Witch)
5.
6.Voodood - add me on steam Okitora
7. _precision ` (i'll join the rs.net group that day)
8. darthchilli (williamchack, thats my steam name)
StylinRed
12-06-2009, 12:17 PM
steam> Stylinred
Vansterdam
12-06-2009, 07:16 PM
xbox>all
underscore
12-06-2009, 07:21 PM
xbox<all
fixed
SlySi
12-07-2009, 09:34 AM
Any Xbox L4D players here?
Vansterdam
12-07-2009, 11:05 AM
right here man i need ppl to play with lol
roastpuff
12-08-2009, 09:27 AM
1. twitchyzero
2. mc.
3. roastpuff (steam: diondi)
4. TRDood (Rape the Witch)
5.
6.Voodood - add me on steam Okitora
7. _precision ` (i'll join the rs.net group that day)
8. darthchilli (williamchack, thats my steam name)
Just got the game for my birthday, completely unexpected present. Gotta love friends who are awesome! :thumbsup:
when r we playinnnn on steam?
ra1nn
12-08-2009, 03:05 PM
1. twitchyzero
2. mc.
3. roastpuff (steam: diondi)
4. TRDood (Rape the Witch)
5.
6.Voodood - add me on steam Okitora
7. _precision ` (i'll join the rs.net group that day)
8. darthchilli (williamchack, thats my steam name)
i might join ^^ depends if im home that night~
if bean joins thats me haha =)
SlySi
12-09-2009, 09:55 AM
right here man i need ppl to play with lol
Vansterdam
Add me.. Slimebag44
NEVERMIND. I see your gamertag.
I will add you..
:o)
twitchyzero
12-09-2009, 10:02 AM
1. twitchyzero
2. mc.
3. roastpuff (steam: diondi)
4. TRDood (Rape the Witch)
5.ulic
6.Voodood - add me on steam Okitora
7. _precision ` (i'll join the rs.net group that day)
8. darthchilli (williamchack, thats my steam name)
9.Tos'd
10.
11.
let's get a few more names as back-up. Gosh my l4d2's been broken for 2 weeks i hope it gets fixed by then.
PsycHo_DraGoN69
12-09-2009, 11:17 AM
1. twitchyzero
2. mc.
3. roastpuff (steam: diondi)
4. TRDood (Rape the Witch)
5.ulic
6.Voodood - add me on steam Okitora
7. _precision ` (i'll join the rs.net group that day)
8. darthchilli (williamchack, thats my steam name)
9.Tos'd
10.PsycHo_DraGoN69
11.
let's get a few more names as back-up. Gosh my l4d2's been broken for 2 weeks i hope it gets fixed by then.
TOS'd
12-09-2009, 01:16 PM
^ so your l4d is acting up too, like twitchyzero? :p
twitchyzero
12-14-2009, 04:45 PM
YOO
Zoey, Francis, Bill and Louis are coming back!11
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/96856-Valve-Announces-First-L4D2-DLC-Featuring-Original-Survivors
introduce a new co-operative challenge mode of play." Presumably we'll be able to choose any of the eight in Survival and Scavenge, and this "new co-operative challenge mode" makes me think that there will be a mode specifically designed for all eight Survivors to be played at once - in other words, an official Left 16 Dead (16 if you include the zombies, that is).
Not official yet, but 8v8 would be sweet. Imagine 2 boomers, 2 spitters and a tank wreaking havoc amongst the survivor.
I'm really hoping it's free lol (don't think Valve has ever charged PC users DLC..but valve is getting greedy these days so who knows) damnit wanna play this game again..why wont my game fix itself.
Tim Budong
12-14-2009, 07:56 PM
we should make teams of 4
then do the find team thing for the achievment
SlySi
12-15-2009, 10:26 AM
YOO
Zoey, Francis, Bill and Louis are coming back!11
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/96856-Valve-Announces-First-L4D2-DLC-Featuring-Original-Survivors
Not official yet, but 8v8 would be sweet. Imagine 2 boomers, 2 spitters and a tank wreaking havoc amongst the survivor.
.
siiiiiiick.....
Cant wait.
1. twitchyzero
2. mc.
3. roastpuff (steam: diondi)
4. TRDood (Rape the Witch)
5.ulic
6.Voodood - add me on steam Okitora
7. _precision ` (i'll join the rs.net group that day)
8. darthchilli (williamchack, thats my steam name)
9.Tos'd
10.PsycHo_DraGoN69
11.jer3 (assuming im not working that night)
1. twitchyzero
2.
3. roastpuff (steam: diondi)
4. TRDood (Rape the Witch)
5.ulic
6.Voodood - add me on steam Okitora
7. _precision ` (i'll join the rs.net group that day)
8. darthchilli (williamchack, thats my steam name)
9.Tos'd
10.PsycHo_DraGoN69
11.jer3 (assuming im not working that night)
turns out im working that night till 12, but I'll come play after if you guys are still playing
SpuGen
12-16-2009, 03:33 PM
Steamid : SpuGen.
I'm playing right now. just add me.
TRDood
12-16-2009, 11:08 PM
FUCK
im getting so fustrated..
i try to "launch" the game, but when it loads, it always kicks me back out to my desktop and "minimizes"
grrrrrrr
anyone have this problem? i have restarted my comp twicE!!!
If anyone wants to buy pc l4d2, its $29.99 at walmart... today is last day! (it's in their flyer)
twitchyzero
12-17-2009, 09:17 AM
FUCK
im getting so fustrated..
i try to "launch" the game, but when it loads, it always kicks me back out to my desktop and "minimizes"
grrrrrrr
anyone have this problem? i have restarted my comp twicE!!!
it just crashes to desktop? or minimizes? i've been having this issue haunt me for 2-3 weeks now.
Tim Budong
12-17-2009, 09:36 AM
if there is enuff interest
we should do 4vs4 tournament
im sure theres MANY more ppl on RS that play and just dont kno it
so somone should annouce it and we form a team
pherio
12-17-2009, 10:06 AM
it just crashes to desktop? or minimizes? i've been having this issue haunt me for 2-3 weeks now.
It's conflicting with AVG 9, reinstall it and problem should go away
illicitstylz
12-17-2009, 01:15 PM
FUCK
im getting so fustrated..
i try to "launch" the game, but when it loads, it always kicks me back out to my desktop and "minimizes"
grrrrrrr
anyone have this problem? i have restarted my comp twicE!!!
1) right click l4d2 > properties > local files > defragment cache files
1) right click l4d2 > properties > local files > verify integrity of game cache
twitchyzero
12-17-2009, 02:07 PM
It's conflicting with AVG 9, reinstall it and problem should go away
I use Avast.
It just gives me engine error: couldn't load library content.
Ive tried adding -novid to the launch settings, verified/defragged files, updated then reinstalled my video driver, reinstalled the game, still no hope.
Valve messed it over for me after the Dec 1. patch. They messed the game up for me with the Nov 21st patch, then fixed it with the Nov 27th patch, then after Dec 1 patch it's broken again.
TRDood
12-17-2009, 02:21 PM
thanks guys.
i will try that
do you guys have problems with lag ever since the new patch came out?
when the game first came out, my laptop can run it very smoothly.
now, i am lagging like a bitch when the horde comes out.
i have been getting only 15 fps when the horde comes out.. and even 10fps when i try to "push zombies away"...
i think my laptop is pretty good,
Vendor: GenuineIntel
Speed: 2526 Mhz
Video Card:
Driver: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570
RAM: 4062 Mb
BlackV62K2
12-17-2009, 06:29 PM
If anyone wants to buy pc l4d2, its $29.99 at walmart... today is last day! (it's in their flyer)
Awesome, was going to get this as a christmas present for someone @ full price.
Awesome
12-17-2009, 09:15 PM
This game is great. Apparently there is an upcoming official Add-on that shows you meeting up with the L4D1 characters.
TypeRNammer
12-17-2009, 09:49 PM
thanks guys.
i will try that
do you guys have problems with lag ever since the new patch came out?
when the game first came out, my laptop can run it very smoothly.
now, i am lagging like a bitch when the horde comes out.
i have been getting only 15 fps when the horde comes out.. and even 10fps when i try to "push zombies away"...
i think my laptop is pretty good,
Vendor: GenuineIntel
Speed: 2526 Mhz
Video Card:
Driver: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570
RAM: 4062 Mb
what kind of laptop is it?
twitchyzero
12-18-2009, 07:25 PM
just as i finished my exam valve decided to fix my game hahah sweet they knew i get distracted easily
versus match is still on....Tues 22nd, 1030pm
1. twitchyzero
2. PsycHo_DraGoN69
3. roastpuff (steam: diondi)
4. TRDood (Rape the Witch)
5.ulic
6.Voodood - add me on steam Okitora
7. _precision ` (i'll join the rs.net group that day)
8. darthchilli (williamchack, thats my steam name)
9.Tos'd
10.jer3 (assuming im not working that night)
11.
I'll be bumping this thread 2 more times between then and will link the RS's steam group here as well.
pherio
12-19-2009, 07:13 PM
I'd join this but I suck @ l4d2 and would just wind up pissing off whatever team I'm on:haha:
SpuGen
12-20-2009, 02:16 AM
Im gonna be online.
Send me a message if you wanna play.
I'm in the RS group.
TRDood
12-20-2009, 10:05 AM
what kind of laptop is it?
vaio 13.3 sr series online custom
Posted via RS Mobile (http://www.revscene.net/forums/announcement.php?a=228)
PsycHo_DraGoN69
12-20-2009, 10:28 AM
i might not be able to play. my new computer is taking long then expected
i'm hoping to finish it up on monday... but i'm not 100% sure since i have work all day tuesday as well.
i'll try my best to be on though
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