[Great68]

True the Military spends their time developing machines for war. It just happens that one of the machines of war could actually stop this.

If you are referring to the Nuke method, not only is it not a sure thing but it could make things WAY worse than they are now. Maybe as an absolute laaaaast resort would it be a good idea to consider that option.

[sunny_j]

i don't believe it until I see it.

Here's the link again so ya dont need to go back a page.

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

bump

[_Hotsauce_]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/4/2010/06/8f25289dfcdf6647b19e769862e3e8de/340x.jpg

[orange7]

^

RIP

[trip]

LOL

[cressydrift]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugHu6ijw7o0

[StylinRed]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/4/2010/06/8f25289dfcdf6647b19e769862e3e8de/340x.jpg

Huh... Aquamans costume is coloured the BP logo... hmmm conspiracy!

[Great68]

Failure after failure after failure. Now they are abandoning the diamond wire cutter and going with less precise way of cutting the riser pipe. This means that there will be more oil leakage coming out of the "top hat".

This whole ordeal shows just how unprepared the whole oil industry was to ever deal with something like this. They put all their faith into one piece of equipment (The BOP) and now they're fucked.

[woob]

http://www.ifitwasmyhome.com/

Puts into perspective how big this spill actually is.... Damn.

[sunny_j]

theres a shit load of oil coming out right now

[Amuse]

^ wow, a lot!

[1exotic]

Damn, those guys in the US are some slow fuckers. Just nuke that shit pussies.

[- kT]

http://www.ifitwasmyhome.com/

Puts into perspective how big this spill actually is.... Damn.

holy shit
i punched in my address, and it's basically big enough to cover all the way to chilliwack to the right, all the way past vancouver island to the left, and about halfway up BC

not to mention it's just getting bigger by the second too

[sunny_j]

60 Minutes - BP disaster - Deepwater Horizon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0onXmlFgF8I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N58oCgl9j2c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzPod_jSh8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNkuWuicFJE

[NashMan]

dame i just put mine in too holly crap

[Not really racist!]

spill is about the size of ireland

[LiquidTurbo]

Nice 60min documentary!

[LiquidTurbo]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dG2__iWuqsM/TAUb5avK7gI/AAAAAAAAEC8/0ztIcgilads/s1600/tumblr_l3adjiIDJK1qzpwi0o1_500.png

[sunny_j]

heres a link to all 12 rov live streams

http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=9033572&contentId=7062605

[penner2k]

I'm not sure what they are doing now.. some sort of robot thing is moving stuff around

[LiquidTurbo]

Vid of Oil covered pelicans..

@ CBSnews.com

[Spectre_Cdn]

Vid of Oil covered pelicans..

@ CBSnews.com

I don't see pelicans - wrong link? :confused:

[sunny_j]

birds covered in oil:mad:
video
www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6544966n&tag=api
1 minute in is very sad

pics
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/06/caught_in_the_oil.html

[LiquidTurbo]

^

thats a really sad series of pics dude!

[_Hotsauce_]

BP has officially given up trying to seal its gushing oil well in the Gulf of Mexico until it can finish drilling at least one "relief well" in mid-August. Although its latest attempt to temporarily control the spill may succeed, what if the long-term "relief wells" solution fails, as experts say is entirely possible?

Source

http://theweek.com/article/index/203613/new-bp-spill-worst-case-scenario-oil-till-christmas

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-06-03/bp-prepares-second-attempt-to-cut-gulf-oil-well-pipe-update1-.html


ALSO.

BP CEO Appologizes

http://bp.concerts.com/gom/bp_response_tv_60_060310.htm

[Gumby]

Fuck, all BP is interested in is to retrieve/recover the oil. Screw the leak, and screw the environment.

[cressydrift]

That fucking bird.... Why doesn't the fucking camera man do something? Jesus, I could not sit there and watch that.

[sunny_j]

12 bp feeds in 1 window
http://www.jtnog.org/

[Alphamale]

Absolutely sickening...

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/oil_06_03/o02_23681001.jpg

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/06/caught_in_the_oil.html

[murd0c]

holy fuck its a whole lot worse then yesterday thats for sure.

[!LittleDragon]

There's a sunken oil rig near by, why don't they just drag it on top of the leak? Or sink an old cruise ship on it? It may not stop the leak but at least sufficiently slow the leak plug it up with cement

[Amuse]

Absolutely sickening...

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/oil_06_03/o02_23681001.jpg

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/06/caught_in_the_oil.html

That is just sad...

[Hondaracer]

yea fuck.. might as well just walk the beach with a .22 and shoot those birds they are living in hell right now

[Not really racist!]

BP's efforts are fucking pathetic, in the end its all about the money and in the end its going to be us that are going to suffer the consequences. I really wonder how fucked our aqua life is gonna be in the next decade, especially if a hurricane blows through the whole mess

[danny_d19]

The rov's aren't doing anything now. Just sittin there watching the oil fucking pump out

[Fafine]

holy shit

[LiquidTurbo]

That fucking bird.... Why doesn't the fucking camera man do something? Jesus, I could not sit there and watch that.

Such as what dude?

[_Hotsauce_]

That fucking bird.... Why doesn't the fucking camera man do something? Jesus, I could not sit there and watch that.

Because he's being paid to take pictures of the oil spill?

[LiquidTurbo]

There's a sunken oil rig near by, why don't they just drag it on top of the leak? Or sink an old cruise ship on it? It may not stop the leak but at least sufficiently slow the leak plug it up with cement

Suddenly everyone is a Heavy Petroleum Engineer! And by 'they' you mean some of the worlds smartest Engineers, I think they've considered your idea. ;)


Really, there is no way out short of..

1.) Relief Well
2.) Nuke

That's the unfortunate reality. When dealing with extreme formation pressure, and extreme water depths, the options are very limited. Even then, there are no guarantee the relief well will work 100%. That's why they started on two. What if both don't work? Then they have to try drilling again, again, and again. This could get extremely ugly.

[cressydrift]

Such as what dude?

Kill it, take it out of its misery. The thing is drowning (CBS video clip from previous page). Or clean the fucking thing off. I guess I have a heart.

[sunny_j]

birds covered in oil:mad:
video
www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6544966n&tag=api
1 minute in is very sad

pics
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/06/caught_in_the_oil.html

bump

bp should be giving more updates on the situation

[LiquidTurbo]

This shit could hit Europe!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juG970Z47jc&feature=player_embedded

[fishing666]

here is a livestream of the leakage
http://www.livestream.com/wkrg_oil_spill

[J____]

this sucks. well at least the good thing is oil doesnt mix with water... imagine cleanup if oil is diluted in the water.....

[LiquidTurbo]

The shit is outta control.

[Ch28]

Absolutely sickening...

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/oil_06_03/o02_23681001.jpg

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/06/caught_in_the_oil.html

That's so sad and pathetic. :(

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

:( man feel bad for the wildlife


BP really fucked up this time

[Heavy_user]

It saddens me to see the wildlife and environment suffer while BP is still more concerned with the money.

[Great68]

So have they closed the vents on the cap yet?

Because on the video it looks like the cap is doing 4/5ths of fuck all right now.

[asian_speedster]

this sucks. well at least the good thing is oil doesnt mix with water... imagine cleanup if oil is diluted in the water.....

The problem is that the chemical dispersant that they have been using do dilute the oil into the water making it nearly impossible to recover or remove. Apparently there are plumes of the chemically dispersed oil underneath the surface of the water but we cant see it!

[Noir]

I really really wish I can dump 75,000 barrels of oil per day on BP execs personal home and offices.

Maybe then they'd have the same urgency as they did when drilling that hole to begin with.

[maxxxboost]

Just watching this shit makes me sad.

Nontheless, they fucked up hard. Thank god i'll be dead before the world is unliveable.

[Alphamale]

^Don't plan on having kids, nieces, nephews..etc?

[sunny_j]

it looks like even more oil coming out
http://www.jtnog.org/

[Not really racist!]

right now the amount of oil gushing out is the most i've seen

fucking craazy

[BlackZRoadster]

i am stupid

why do the birds not fly away? serious question

[_Hotsauce_]

i am stupid

why do the birds not fly away? serious question

Your a fucking idiot; Go jump in a pool of oil.

[sunny_j]

i am stupid

why do the birds not fly away? serious question

the oil sticks to the feathers and makes it hard to move pretty much paralyzing them. they cant hunt , loose body heat and freeze to death.

[TOPEC]

it looks like even more oil coming out
http://www.jtnog.org/

the link crashes my firefox browser, anyone else have this problem?

[sunny_j]

the link crashes my firefox browser, anyone else have this problem?

the link works on my pc but not on my mac

[HonestTea]

the link crashes my firefox browser, anyone else have this problem?

works fine on my FF

[BlackZRoadster]

the oil sticks to the feathers and makes it hard to move pretty much paralyzing them. they cant hunt , loose body heat and freeze to death.

but why do they fly into the oil?? the ocean is quite big,

[sunny_j]

but why do they fly into the oil?? the ocean is quite big,

they dive in head first to catch fish. the birds dont know there is oil on top of the water.

[penner2k]

but why do they fly into the oil?? the ocean is quite big,

Cuz birds cant just go to the grocery store to get their food... they actually catch it themselves!

http://palmgoon.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/the_more_you_know2.jpg

[orange7]

but why do they fly into the oil?? the ocean is quite big,

because that where their home and food are.


Are you suggesting that the birds should fly to the arctic and live there instead for this time of the year?

[Amuse]

but why do they fly into the oil?? the ocean is quite big,
Bird's can't read newspapers or browse the internet... they don't know there is an oil spill. It sucks if they are looking for food for their young and they can't return back to their nest to feed them.

[sunny_j]

more pics
http://www.reuters.com/article/slideshow/idUSTRE65204220100606#a=2

[PavelGTR]

It's been what two weeks? how have they not stopped this yet?

[LiquidTurbo]

^

If you have any ideas.. please share. Don't get your hopes up. This thing will gush till August.

[c3m]

It's been what two weeks? how have they not stopped this yet?

It started April 20, 2010. so... we are actually closing in on two months.

[LiquidTurbo]

2 months. :(

[sunny_j]

BP Logo ReDesign Contest

http://www.logomyway.com/contestView.php?contestId=1746

:haha::haha:

[hal0g0dv2]

Going to take 4 ever to clean this disaster up
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[TOPEC]

any updates on this? heard on the news today that they put a cap on and is containing the leaking oil? wasn't really paying attention.

[mr_chin]

any updates on this? heard on the news today that they put a cap on and is containing the leaking oil? wasn't really paying attention.

They did that at the beginning. It worked very well but it was a permanent solution. With that much pressure coming out, its gonna be pretty hard to fix.

They should have just cope with it and make a rig with a really big funnel that sits in between the well and the rig. Suck all the oil including the water up. On the rig there is a filter system that filters out the water and keeps the oil. Water would be dumped back into the sea. It won't be 100% filtered but its better than this
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[_Hotsauce_]

I believe they are drilling relief well(s) at the moment, going to be leaking until they are complete in August

[sunny_j]

New oil plume evidence uncovered

As if the pictures of birds, fish and animals killed by floating oil in the Gulf of Mexico are not disturbing enough, scientists now say they have found evidence of another danger lurking underwater.

The University of South Florida recently discovered a second oil plume in the northeastern Gulf. The first plume was found by Mississippi universities in early May.

USF has concluded microscopic oil droplets are forming deep water oil plumes. After a weeklong analysis of water samples, USF scientists found more oil in deeper water.

"These hydrocarbons are from depth and not associated with sinking degraded oil but associated with the source of the Deep Horizon well head," said USF Chemical Oceanographer David Hollander.

Through isotopic or microscopic fingerprinting, Hollander and his USF crew were able to show the oil in the plume came from BP's blown-out oil well. The surface oil's so-called fingerprint matched the tiny underwater droplet's fingerprint.

"We've taken molecular isotopic approaches which is like a fingerprint on a smoking gun," Hollander said.

continued
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/07/gulf.oil.plume/index.html?hpt=T1

[orange7]

gg

[Greenstoner]

does anyone know the amount of oil has leaked is good for how many month or years of consuming ?

[Ducdesmo]

Goldman Sachs sold 44% of its BP Stock, Three weeks before the Oil Rig disaster.
Made $276million. Makes you wonder..

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/136466

http://moneycentral.msn.com/ownership?Holding=Institutional+Ownership&Symbol=BP

[quasi]

does anyone know the amount of oil has leaked is good for how many month or years of consuming ?

The world consumes about 85 million barrels per day. Canada consumes about 2.3 million barrels and the USA 20.6 million barrels p/day.

They are estimating 22 million barrels have leaked to date but who really knows how reliable that number is. If the estimates are correct the amount that's leaked to date is just over the amount the USA consumes in 1 day.

Oil Consumption Link
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ene_oil_con-energy-oil-consumption

Estimated amount leaked Link
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2010/05/how-much-oil-has-spilled-in-the-gulf-of-mexico.html

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

^

that is a lot of oil to destroy our ocean

[_Hotsauce_]

Goldman Sachs sold 44% of its BP Stock, Three weeks before the Oil Rig disaster.
Made $276million. Makes you wonder..

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/136466

http://moneycentral.msn.com/ownership?Holding=Institutional+Ownership&Symbol=BP

You think BP sabotaged their own oil rig?

[q0192837465]

You think BP sabotaged their own oil rig?

More like there are hints of the inherent problems with the rig or the entire BP operations. Things we average joes will never get to know.

[Ducdesmo]

You think BP sabotaged their own oil rig?

I don't know, but considering GS is under investigation for fraud and JP Morgan chase are known for market manipulation, I wouldn't doubt that GS has something to do with the event.
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[trip]

interesting

http://www.blogster.com/joannemor/bombshell-expose-the-real-reason-the-oil-still-flows-into-the-gulf-of-mexico

[LiquidTurbo]

Goldman Sachs sold 44% of its BP Stock, Three weeks before the Oil Rig disaster.
Made $276million. Makes you wonder..

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/136466

http://moneycentral.msn.com/ownership?Holding=Institutional+Ownership&Symbol=BP

You think BP sabotaged their own oil rig?

http://www.jamesbondvillains.com/James-Bond-Villains/James-Bond-Villain-LeCheffe-Casino-Royale_files/Le_Chiffre_by_Mads_Mikkelsen.jpg

[Gumby]

From http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/News/world/2010/06/08/14307966.html:


BP shares fall 5% on Obama 'kick ass' comment
By KRISTEN HAYS, REUTERS

HOUSTON - Energy giant BP Plc said Tuesday it had sharply increased the amount of oil it was capturing from its blown-out Gulf of Mexico well, but U.S. officials want to know exactly how much oil is still gushing out.

The London-based company’s share price fell about 5 percent in London trading after U.S. President Barack Obama said he wanted to know “whose ass to kick” over the massive spill.

He told NBC News’ “Today” show that if BP Chief Executive Tony Hayward worked for him, he would have fired him by now over his response to the 50-day-old spill, the worst environmental disaster in U.S history.

BP already faces a criminal investigation and lawsuits over the April 20 explosion aboard the Deepwater Horizon oil rig that killed 11 workers and triggered the massive spill. Some 120 miles of U.S. coastline have been soiled in the disaster that threatens the Gulf Coast’s lucrative fishing industry.

The company said Tuesday it had collected 14,800 barrels of oil on Monday, 33 percent higher than the amount collected on Sunday and the highest capture rate since it installed a new system to contain the oil spill last week.
It infuriates me that BP seems way more concerned about collecting the oil. Their attempts to stop the leak itself seem half-assed - just to appease the general public I guess.

[orange7]

From http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/News/world/2010/06/08/14307966.html:


It infuriates me that BP seems way more concerned about collecting the oil. Their attempts to stop the leak itself seem half-assed - just to appease the general public I guess.

+1

Instead of focusing some of its work force on drilling two relief wells, BP should've used its full work force on on plugging the leaks. After the leaks are completely plugged, then it should drill relief wells to collect oil again.

[Gumby]

+1

Instead of focusing some of its work force on drilling two relief wells, BP should've used its full work force on on plugging the leaks. After the leaks are completely plugged, then it should drill relief wells to collect oil again.
Well, in their defense, the relief wells are proven solutions to the oil leaking from their main well. If the first one doesn't work for some reason, they'll have the second one. In fact, I think Obama instructed them to start drilling a 3rd one just in case.

The only problem with these relief wells is that they take time - weeks, if not months - to build. Plugging the leak itself would probably only take days - if they had come up with a working solution...

Edit: Here's an article (from BP, haha) that explains how the relief wells work:

http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=9033657&contentId=7061734

[Great68]

+1

Instead of focusing some of its work force on drilling two relief wells, BP should've used its full work force on on plugging the leaks. After the leaks are completely plugged, then it should drill relief wells to collect oil again.

No. Starting the Relief wells ASAP was the right thing to do. It may be almost impossible to PLUG the leak, and right now the only "Full work force" they have available to plug the leak is 12 ROV's.

[G]

It's hard to say BP should just "plug the leak", I'm pretty sure a lot of engineers and specialists are trying to figure out a way to do it, but building something that will "plug" it will take years considering how deep it is and they can't do a half ass job on the "plug" either.

It's the right thing to find ways around the leak to try to gather as much of the spill as they can but as of now. What they SHOULD be focusing on is how to contain the spill so it doesn't spread even more. That's the only thing they can do as of right now.

But from what I see it, it's not going to end soon... sigh..

[46_valentinor]

i think they should stop using the oil dispersing chemical!! it's going to be impossible to clean up the oil once it dilutes with the ocean water!! As long as the oil is still floating on top, they can still burn it off...

[Ferra]

+1

Instead of focusing some of its work force on drilling two relief wells, BP should've used its full work force on on plugging the leaks. After the leaks are completely plugged, then it should drill relief wells to collect oil again.
They already tried everything to plug the leak, but none of the methods worked (capping it, top kills..etc). That was the first thing they did after the accident.

The relief drill is more like a "last resort" after they've exhausted all options.

[7seven]

(CNN) -- The morning the Deepwater Horizon oil rig exploded, a BP executive and a Transocean official argued over how to proceed with the drilling, rig survivors told CNN's Anderson Cooper in an exclusive interview.

The survivors' account paints perhaps the most detailed picture yet of what happened on the deepwater rig -- and the possible causes of the April 20 explosion.

The BP official wanted workers to replace heavy mud, used to keep the well's pressure down, with lighter seawater to help speed a process that was costing an estimated $750,000 a day and was already running five weeks late, rig survivors told CNN.

BP won the argument, said Doug Brown, the rig's chief mechanic. "He basically said, 'Well, this is how it's gonna be.' "

"That's what the big argument was about," added Daniel Barron III.

Shortly after the exchange, chief driller Dewey Revette expressed concern and opposition too, the workers said, and on the drilling floor, they chatted among themselves.

"I don't ever remember doing this," they said, according to Barron.

"I think that's why Dewey was so reluctant to try to do it," Barron said, "because he didn't feel it was the right way to have things done."

Revette was among the 11 workers killed when the rig exploded that night.

In the CNN interviews, the workers described a corporate culture of cutting staff and ignoring warning signs ahead of the blast. They said BP routinely cut corners and pushed ahead despite concerns about safety.

The rig survivors also said it was always understood that you could get fired if you raised safety concerns that might delay drilling. Some co-workers had been fired for speaking out, they said.

It can cost up to $1 million a day to operate a deepwater rig, according to industry experts.

Safety was "almost used as a crutch by the company," Barron said. He said he was once scolded for standing on a bucket on the rig, yet the next day, Transocean ordered a crane to continue operating amid high winds, against its own policies. "It's like they used it against us -- the safety policies -- you know, to their advantage.

"I don't think there was ever a plan set in place, because no one ever thought this was gonna ever happen," he added.

BP spokesman Robert Wine would not comment on specific allegations, saying the company has to "wait for the investigations to be completed. We can't prejudge them."

"BP's priority is always safety," he said.

Transocean, the world's largest offshore drilling contractor, said its top priority is safety.

"There is no scenario or circumstance under which it will be compromised," the company said in a written statement. "So critical is safety at Transocean that every crew member has stop-work authority, a real-time method by which all work is halted should any employee suspect an unsafe situation or operation."

The Justice Department has launched a criminal investigation into the massive oil spill that has spewed as much as 798,000 gallons (19,000 barrels) of oil into the Gulf of Mexico every day.

The rig workers have filed a negligence suit against BP, Transocean, oil field services contractor Halliburton and other companies involved with the deepwater rig.

"I've seen gross negligence, and this conduct is criminal," said Steve Gordon, the lawyer representing the men. "There's a crime scene sitting 5,000 feet below the water."

Brown, the rig's mechanic, had traveled with the rig from South Korea, where it was made nearly a decade ago. He had seen the mechanical crew get downsized over the years. Yet as the rig aged, the engines began having more problems.

"It became overwhelming," he said. "We couldn't keep up with the flow of it. ... We constantly over the years kept telling them, 'Hey, we need more help back here.'

"They pretty much just said, 'Well, we'll look into it.' "

About nine months ago, Brown said, he got an additional first engineer, yet the crew was still overloaded with work.

Even more alarming, the rig survivors said, was the amount of resistance the well was giving them. "We had problems with it from the day we got on," Matthew Jacobs said.
There was always like an ominous feeling. This well did not want to be drilled.

Nearly every day, Jacobs said, "we had problems with that well."

Barron said it was like an eerie cloud hung over the well being dug 5,000 feet into the sea.

"There was always like an ominous feeling," he said. "This well did not want to be drilled. ... It just seemed like we were messing with Mother Nature."

At times, the drill got stuck. Many times, it "kicked," meaning gas was shooting back through the mud at an alarming rate.

"I've seen a lot of gas coming up from muds on different wells, and the highest I've ever seen in my 11 years was 1,500 units. And this well gave us 3,000," Brown said. "I've never been on a well with that high of gas coming out of the mud. That was kind of letting me know this well was something to be reckoned with."

It all came to a head at 9:56 p.m., when the first of three explosions rocked Deepwater Horizon, 52 miles southeast of Venice, Louisiana, with 126 people aboard. Tiles fell from the ceiling, walls collapsed, and people ran for their lives. It reminded Matt Jacobs of the movie "Titanic."

"It looked like you was looking at the face of death," he said. "You could hear it, see it, smell it."

He scrambled to the lifeboat deck. Jacobs had been trained to fight fires aboard the rig. But when he looked at the flames shooting 150 feet into the air, he knew there was nothing they could do. "There is no way we can put that fire out," he thought.

Jacobs hopped in a lifeboat. He screamed for co-workers to jump aboard. A second explosion rocked the rig. The lifeboat, still suspended in the air, went into a free fall of about 3 feet.

"Here I am on a lifeboat that's supposed to help me get off this rig," Jacobs thought. "And I'm gonna wind up dying."

He bowed his head and prayed.

Now, 50 days later, the survivors are telling their stories. It's become part of their everyday lives. They can't shake what happened that day, even when they close their eyes at night.

"It's like being in a neverending nightmare," Brown said. "You dream about it. You see it in your sleep. Then, we wake up in the morning, and we realize it's not a dream. It's real. ... It doesn't end for us."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/08/oil.rig.warning.signs/index.html

[Gumby]

^
Hate to be a dick, but this is starting to sound like an action movie. When Michael Bay's done with Transformers, would he be interested in working with Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck again?

[woob]

LONDON—As the crisis in the Gulf of Mexico entered its eighth week Wednesday, fears continued to grow that the massive flow of bullshit still gushing from the headquarters of oil giant BP could prove catastrophic if nothing is done to contain it.

The toxic bullshit, which began to spew from the mouths of BP executives shortly after the explosion of the Deepwater Horizon oil rig in April, has completely devastated the Gulf region, delaying cleanup efforts, affecting thousands of jobs, and endangering the lives of all nearby wildlife.

"Everything we can see at the moment suggests that the overall environmental impact of this will be very, very modest," said BP CEO Tony Hayward, letting loose a colossal stream of undiluted bullshit. "The Gulf of Mexico is a very big ocean, and the volume of oil we are putting into it is tiny in relation to the total volume of water."


Hayward's comments fueled fears that the spouting of overwhelmingly thick and slimy bullshit may never subside.

According to sources, the sheer quantity of bullshit pouring out of Hayward is unprecedented, and it has thoroughly drenched the coastlines of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida, with no end in sight.

Though no one knows exactly how much of the dangerous bullshit is currently gushing from BP headquarters, estimates put the number at somewhere between 25,000 and 70,000 words a day.

"We're looking at a truly staggering load of shit here," said Rebecca Palmer, an environmental scientist at the University of Georgia, who claimed that only BP has the ability to stem the flow of bullshit and plug it at its source. "And this is just the beginning—we're only seeing the surface-level bullshit. It could be years before we sift through it all and figure out just how deep this bullshit goes."

Congressional hearings aimed at stopping the bullshit have thus far failed to do so, with officials from BP and its contractors Halliburton and Transocean only adding to the powerful torrents of bullshit by blaming one another for the accident.

Along with the region's wildlife and fragile ecosystem, countless livelihoods have been jeopardized by BP's unchecked flow of corporate shit. Those who depend on fishing or tourism for their income are already feeling the noxious effects of the bullshit firsthand, as out-of-control platitudes begin to reach land and seep ashore.


Dense streams of shit are expected to continue spreading throughout the region and the entire United States.

"This bullshit, it's everywhere," said Louisiana fisherman Doug LaRoux, who lost his house to a tide of government bullshit following Hurricane Katrina. "It reeks. Big buckets of disgusting shit are oozing everywhere you look and I don't know if it's ever going to stop. I feel helpless"

Added LaRoux, "I never thought I'd be the victim of so much bullshit."

Observers have noted that after the Exxon Valdez spill in 1989, corporate bullshit gushed up like a geyser for two decades and didn't wane until the oil company had bullshit its way through an exhaustive process of court appeals that ultimately reduced payouts to victims by 90 percent.

Despite Hayward's denials that BP is at fault for the environmental disaster and his concern that it will result in "illegitimate" American lawsuits, the embattled CEO has still managed to trickle out a few last drips of bullshit sympathy for Gulf Coast residents.

"I'm as devastated as you are by this," Hayward said after a meeting with cleanup crews on Louisiana's Fourchon Beach. "We will clean every last drop up and we will remediate all of the environmental damage."

"There's no one that wants this thing over with more than I do," he added a week later, just absolutely defying belief with the thickest, most dangerous bullshit yet. "I'd like my life back."

Millions of Americans reported feeling ill and disoriented upon contact with that particularly vile plume of bullshit.

Many environmentalists, including Palmer, have called for a boycott of BP until the bullshit stops or is at least under control, but they emphasize that in the long term, Americans will have to change their habits if they wish to avoid future catastrophes.

"We must all work together if we're going to cure our nation of this addiction," Palmer said. "The sad fact is, the United States has been running on bullshit for decades."

http://www.theonion.com/articles/massive-flow-of-bullshit-continues-to-gush-from-bp,17564/

<3 onion

[97ITR]

From http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/News/world/2010/06/08/14307966.html:


It infuriates me that BP seems way more concerned about collecting the oil. Their attempts to stop the leak itself seem half-assed - just to appease the general public I guess.

Why do you think it seems like they're more concerned about collecting the oil? You do realize the oil they collect they're burning right? Furthermore, BP has seen about a 100 billion dollars of market cap wiped out because of this mess, do you really think they're not concentrating all their efforts to solve this mess?

[sunny_j]

Why do you think it seems like they're more concerned about collecting the oil? You do realize the oil they collect they're burning right? Furthermore, BP has seen about a 100 billion dollars of market cap wiped out because of this mess, do you really think they're not concentrating all their efforts to solve this mess?

where did you get that from?

[sunny_j]

Second (Small) Gulf Oil Spill Confirmed
As if the oil spill in the gulf weren’t already sticky and complicated enough, news started emerging late Tuesday of a second oil well in the region leaking crude, producing an oil slick that was visible from the air.

The news was spotty and a little vague, but the Department of Interior did confirm Tuesday that “small amounts of oil – on average of less than one-third of a barrel per day – have been leaking” from wells operated by a company called Taylor Energy.

CNBC was reporting that this new leak originated from a production platform that was destroyed by an underwater mudslide in 2004, when Hurricane Ivan slammed the area. The site has been leaking ever since, as Taylor has sought to contain and close the well.

Taylor Energy, meanwhile, issued a statement Tuesday, saying that the photos of a second oil slick were taken while the company was actively working at the site, deploying a containment system: “Unidentified aircraft took photos this weekend that incorrectly reported an oil leak coming from the drilling rig Ocean Saratoga. At the time of these photos, Taylor Energy was actually conducting marine operations on site with a 180 foot dynamically positioned workboat for a regularly scheduled subsea containment system drainage,” the company said.

So it’s a small leak that Taylor is actively trying to contain.

But what’s a little less clear is how long this leak, which is still producing around 14 gallons a day – roughly a car tank’s worth – has been belching oil into the open ocean. Yes, Taylor is working to contain it, but how many days out of the last six years has oil been flowing freely? Assuming the leakage rate was always 14 daily gallons, that’s more than 30,600 gallons since 2004.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/06/09/bad-and-worse-second-gulf-oil-spill-confirmed/

http://cnmnewsnetwork.com/119227/2nd-oil-spill-in-gulf-of-mexico-2010-ocean-saratoga-oil-leak/

[Gumby]

Why do you think it seems like they're more concerned about collecting the oil? You do realize the oil they collect they're burning right? Furthermore, BP has seen about a 100 billion dollars of market cap wiped out because of this mess, do you really think they're not concentrating all their efforts to solve this mess?
No, I did not know that they were burning off the collected oil. I thought they were gonna refine and sell it.

At this point, it looks like BP has given up on stopping the leak. Instead, they will rely on one or more relief wells, which won't be ready until August. Meanwhile, oil will continue to leak - some of which they will be able to collect. That doesn't really sound like an immediate solution to the leaking problem... Then again, an immediate solution just might not exist!

[Great68]

No, I did not know that they were burning off the collected oil.



Because they're NOT.

What fucking sense would that make?

They would only ever burn what they don't have the capacity to process.

[Spectre_Cdn]

They plan to burn some of it:

Unable to process and store all of the hydrocarbons flooding up from an undersea well, BP PLC will begin using a ship to burn off some of the leaking oil as early as next week.

The company is fitting a mobile drilling vessel known as the Q4000 with an oil-burning device that will allow it to flare both natural gas and up to 10,000 barrels per day of oil.

“What we’re concerned about is making sure that oil doesn’t hit the water,” said Admiral Thad Allen, the U.S. national incident commander for the massive Gulf of Mexico spill.

Just over 15,000 barrels per day of crude is currently being collected on a different vessel, the Discoverer Enterprise, which the U.S. Coast Guard now says is capable of processing up to 18,000 barrel, up from earlier estimates of 15,000. The undersea hydrocarbon leak is being captured using a containment cap, but must be processed by shipboard equipment capable of splitting out the oil from the natural gas.

The Q4000 will use an alternate siphoning method in an attempt to increase the volume of recovered hydrocarbons. Unlike the Discoverer Enterprise, however, it is being equipped with special equipment that will allow it to burn off rather than store the captured crude.

BP, which first stated the oil was leaking at about 1,000 barrels per day and resisted higher estimates, has now declined to estimate how much oil is leaking from the well. That task has now fallen to a technical group convened by the U.S. government, and which has calculated that between 12,000 and 25,000 barrels per day are flowing from the well.

But the lower end of that estimate has proven to be wrong – BP is now capturing 15,000 barrels per day, and oil continues to billow from the sea floor through vents in the containment cap that are designed to relieve pressure on the well. And BP has not had sufficient vessel capacity to process the full stream, whose volume some scientists now believe may be multiple times initial estimates.

The Q4000 ship will boost surface oil-handling capacity to 28,000 barrels per day when it is in place “some time next week,” Adm. Allen said.

If that proves insufficient, it will take at least another week before BP has in place greater capacity. It has ordered two larger ships to sail to the site of the oil leak, one from the North Sea, that will be able to process the full extent of the leak and ferry it to shore. Those ships will provide “a more robust package,” one that “can survive heavier weather,” Adm. Allen said.

They will not, however, be ready to accept oil for seven to 10 days after the Q4000 arrives – or more than two weeks from now.
http://www.ctv.ca/generic/generated/static/business/article1597646.html


BP has poured millions of gallons of oil into the Gulf of Mexico. Now it wants to fill the skies with oily fumes.

The British oil giant at the heart of the worst oil spill in U.S. history plans to burn oil its containment dome collects from the gushing underwater well.

As the cap nears its capacity, BP has to find a means to dispose of the oil.

The company claims it has a rig armed with a device that can turn oil into vapor and burn without creating visible smoke. BP says the flames would not endanger other vessels.

But what about the air?

The company that makes the oil-burning device, Schlumberger Ltd., calls the process “fallout-free and smokeless combustion.”

One Gulf Coast scientist, however, calls it a bad idea.

"This is one of those decisions that will have negative impacts," Wilma Subra, a chemist, told The Associated Press. "Even though it's crude dispersed in water, the burning of crude will raise some health issues."

More alarming is figuring out how much oil is still spewing into the ocean.

Government estimates state between 600,000 gallons to 1.2 million gallons of oil leak into the Gulf’s waters each day.

However, one team of scientists with the U.S. Geological Survey say the range is closer to between 798,000 gallons and 1.8 million gallons.

BP’s containment cap can collect more than 600,000 gallons before reaching capacity.

The Deepwater Horizon oil rig exploded April 20, killing 11 workers and has, so far, leaked anywhere between 23 million and 48 million gallons of oil.

With News Wire Services

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/06/09/2010-06-09_bp_to_burn_oil_it_collects_from_gulf_spill_as_c ontainment_dome_runs_out_of_space.html#ixzz0qOnP71 Ix


And just a FYI in case you didn't already know; one drop of oil can contaminate one million drops of water - 1:1000000 http://www.onedrop.org/en/foundation/water-crisis/pollution.aspx

[Great68]

They plan to burn some of it:



Like I said, only what they can't process. They wouldn't just burn money away otherwise.

[Blue_StreakR]

It's quite the mess for sure and unfortunate how much it has negatively affected an already weak New Orleans economy. I was there for the memorial day weekend and chatted with many people that were working doing cleanup and pretty much every restaraunt had to import there fish instead of getting it locally.

[Hondaracer]

Been reading up on investing into BP at rock bottom

but a few highly respected analysts say they may not even make it through the next 5 years

the Exxon Valdez incident made Exxon stock sink to new lows, but since prince william sound is virtually uninhabited there was not much in terms of settlements for the residents of the area, they only had to pay for cleanup and rehabilitation, at this point Exxon stock is somthing like 6-7 times the price it was the time of the spill

BP however, these analysts are saying there is potentially no limit to the money they will have to fork over for settlements to fisherman, inhabitants, etc.

[palepilsenpin0y]

http://www.ucbcomedy.com/videos/play/6472/bp-spills-coffee

[fishing666]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AAa0gd7ClM&feature=player_embedded

funny as hell lol

[orange7]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AAa0gd7ClM&feature=player_embedded

funny as hell lol

so true
:haha::haha::haha::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Ferra]

Been reading up on investing into BP at rock bottom

but a few highly respected analysts say they may not even make it through the next 5 years

the Exxon Valdez incident made Exxon stock sink to new lows, but since prince william sound is virtually uninhabited there was not much in terms of settlements for the residents of the area, they only had to pay for cleanup and rehabilitation, at this point Exxon stock is somthing like 6-7 times the price it was the time of the spill

BP however, these analysts are saying there is potentially no limit to the money they will have to fork over for settlements to fisherman, inhabitants, etc.
Exxon oil spill only costed them a few billions dollars
BP's value went down 100 billions since the spill...(that's more than the value of Royal Bank + BMO combined)

I am sure US wouldn't have been so harsh on BP if it were an american company. The people that are going to suffer the most from the spill are the pensioners in UK.

btw US government now wants BP to pay for the wages of ALL the oil rig worker in US that are now out of work because the government decides to put a temporary ban on off shore drilling.

[Ducdesmo]

Been reading up on investing into BP at rock bottom

but a few highly respected analysts say they may not even make it through the next 5 years

the Exxon Valdez incident made Exxon stock sink to new lows, but since prince william sound is virtually uninhabited there was not much in terms of settlements for the residents of the area, they only had to pay for cleanup and rehabilitation, at this point Exxon stock is somthing like 6-7 times the price it was the time of the spill

BP however, these analysts are saying there is potentially no limit to the money they will have to fork over for settlements to fisherman, inhabitants, etc.

Better to short them.

[orange7]

the government decides to put a temporary ban on off shore drilling.

according to econ 101..

supply shifts left => oil price goes up

????

:haha::haha::haha:;)

[jlim85]

Oh Sarah Palin. You are so amusing...

http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/06/04/sarah-palins-facebook-blasts-environmentalists-for-oil-spill/

[orange7]

Oh Sarah Palin. You are so amusing...

http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/06/04/sarah-palins-facebook-blasts-environmentalists-for-oil-spill/

lol :haha::haha:

Extreme deep water drilling is not the preferred choice to meet our country’s energy needs, but your protests and lawsuits and lies about onshore and shallow water drilling have locked up safer areas. It’s catching up with you. The tragic, unprecedented deep water Gulf oil spill proves it.


Radical environmentalists: you are damaging the planet with your efforts to lock up safer drilling areas. There’s nothing clean and green about your misguided, nonsensical radicalism, and Americans are on to you as we question your true motives.

:haha::haha::haha:

[LiquidTurbo]

Oh Sarah Palin. You are so amusing...

http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/06/04/sarah-palins-facebook-blasts-environmentalists-for-oil-spill/

Someone needs to drill a hole into her head. wtf.

[q0192837465]

Just to put things in perspective for those of u who think plugging the hole is as simple as you think it is.

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6363/500xoaplandseaoceans100.jpg

[_Hotsauce_]

BP CEO states "I want my life back"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTdKa9eWNFw&feature=player_embedded

In response...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZbIV2ghWOQ&feature=player_embedded

Also

Kitties act out the oil spill as BP Execs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt617zYAbng&feature=player_embedded

[murd0c]

Just saw on Global that there is a good possibility that BP might go Bankrupt and buy them doing that they won't have to pay for the cleanup costs.

[cressydrift]

This is conspiracy heaven.

Goldman Sachs sells BP shares 2 weeks before oil spill.

Warren Buffet buys 254 million dollars worth of the chemical company that is spraying the oil right now end of last year.

BP manager's fly in and push operations to dangerous level's of drilling which causes the explosion of the rig.

Wait till this get's into the Atlantic, then everyone will really start to care.

[Carl Johnson]

Yea but the profits those guy made is tiny compared to what GS and BRK has lost in terms of their market value recently. GS or Warren Buffet does not have to disclose the reasons why they have made those investment choices, so it's all speculation without merit.

[LiquidTurbo]

It's been almost two months... and it almost seems no one care about the spill anymore. We've heard so much about it, it seems like people are almost desensitized by it!

[G]

^Mostly because it hasn't affected places near us. Most people put it in perspective of where they are living etc etc. But they don't know how bad this is in the whole perspective and it's going to bite everyone's ass.

Suspicious conspiracy? Yes, very. But I don't think they would sacrifice it on something THIS serious....

[metal]

Saw this at work today...ironic
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs329.snc3/29046_437300755259_528050259_6176104_5277630_n.jpg

[Mananetwork]

Why are people so greedy! They need unlimited wealth and more of it! How do they sleep at night knowing they are destroying the planet they live on!

[Ducdesmo]

This is conspiracy heaven.

Goldman Sachs sells BP shares 2 weeks before oil spill.

Warren Buffet buys 254 million dollars worth of the chemical company that is spraying the oil right now end of last year.

BP manager's fly in and push operations to dangerous level's of drilling which causes the explosion of the rig.

Wait till this get's into the Atlantic, then everyone will really start to care.

This is not a consipracy...it's a fact. GS is completely corrupt and I'm glad truth the finally coming out about their unethical business practice. There is a quote; When in doubt, follow the money.

[Greenstoner]

if those protestor care about it so much, they should just volunteer to clean up the shore

[Gumby]

Got this from Trinity. Pretty funny:

http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/129205081850289561.jpg

[sunny_j]

New Orleans, Louisiana (CNN) -- The numbers on every front of the Gulf of Mexico oil disaster keep their steady march upward to staggering proportions, and Friday was no exception.
As the oil spewed, so did more grim statistics.
Researchers have doubled estimates of how much oil has been gushing from a ruptured BP well, reporting that up to 40,000 barrels, or 1.7 million gallons, a day may have escaped for weeks.
If the latest estimate is correct, that would mean 90.1 million gallons have spewed in the 53 days since the rig exploded. That's more than eight times the amount spilled by the supertanker Exxon Valdez in Alaska's Prince William Sound in 1989.


http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/11/gulf.coast.oil.spill/index.html?hpt=T2
bp is so full of shit. when it first started they said there was 5000 barrels a day i think

[cressydrift]

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/oil_06_11/g33_23692825.jpg
http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/oil_06_11/g37_23742267.jpg
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/06/scenes_from_the_gulf_of_mexico.html

[murd0c]

I'm not sure if this has been posted yet but it helps to show how large the spill actually is WOW

http://www.ifitwasmyhome.com/

[cressydrift]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp7rC6h77Ds

[46_valentinor]

just nuke it, the moment the relief well doesn't work.

[sunny_j]

i dont know whats worse for the eco system oil or radiation.

[46_valentinor]

The oil and the oil plumes has already messed up the chances of life being able to survive in the region quite a bit, throwing a nuke in there won't do as much damage anymore compared to a 100% habitable area. Also, the radiation will be slowed down because it will be underwater and affect just that area compared to letting the oil continue to leak and spread around the whole world.

[TomBox_N]

Well, to be honest, Mother nature will sort this mess out no problem. We'r the ones that r fucked.
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[StylinRed]

stopped following the thread... but did you guys hear?


the guy thats going to solve the problem of all the oil leaked is none other than Kevin Costner... Waterworld star

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/greenspace/2010/06/gulf-oil-spill-costner-solution-has-green-light-but-no-green.html

he owns a machine that sucks up the sludge and splits the oil and water

BP is already going to buy 36 of them

http://bluraymedia.ign.com/bluray/image/article/103/1037100/waterworld-20091021001640428_640w.jpg

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

damn they should really nuke it now, this thing is way out of control

[Vansterdam]

wow is it really kevin costners machine? LOL

[LiquidTurbo]

Well, to be honest, Mother nature will sort this mess out no problem. We'r the ones that r fucked.
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How would Mother Nature sort this out? You really can't 'dilute' your way out of something this big.

[LiquidTurbo]

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/oil_06_11/g33_23692825.jpg
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/06/scenes_from_the_gulf_of_mexico.html

That's just plain fucking sad.:(

[_Hotsauce_]

How would Mother Nature sort this out? You really can't 'dilute' your way out of something this big.

Everything will die, and mother nature will start over in a few hundred years?

[cressydrift]

I don't know if you guys watched the video I posted, but in a round about way they said basically the well can not be plugged.

Remember when they tried to put mud into it? When they said it was suppose to take a couple days and they will know, but then all of sudden they said it didn't work? Well they had a 30,000 hp pump, pumping drilling mud into the well. When they did that, the mud started to come up through the sea floor. So basically they have cracked the earths crust and compromised the integrity of the well. So it has to keep flowing or people will find out that they have done more damage.

The countdown is on till this get's into the Atlantic. Not that they would tell us if it has or not.

[murd0c]

once it hits the atlantic we are fucked

[bengy]

Speaking of crap in the ocean...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch

[Ducdesmo]

There is a high potential that this low pressure system will turn into a tropical hurricane in the next 48hrs. Not sure when it will hit the Gulf.

http://www.stormpulse.com/

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

just keeps on getting worse and worse

[hal0g0dv2]

Why are people so greedy! They need unlimited wealth and more of it! How do they sleep at night knowing they are destroying the planet they live on!

yeah man , so stupid

[sunny_j]

Speaking of crap in the ocean...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch

ive heard about this before and it blows my mind:eek:

[sunny_j]

U.S. Gives BP 48 Hours to Boost Containment Capacity

June 12 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Coast Guard gave BP Plc 48 hours to find more capacity to contain its leaking oil well in the Gulf of Mexico after scientists and researchers doubled their estimates of the spill’s size.

BP’s efforts don’t “provide the needed collection capacity consistent with the revised flow estimates,” said Rear Admiral James A. Watson, the federal on-scene coordinator, in a letter dated June 11. It was sent to Doug Suttles, BP’s chief operating officer for exploration and production, and was released today.

BP plans to almost triple its capacity to capture oil from its leaking well to as much as 50,000 barrels a day by mid-July, the Coast Guard said yesterday. The plan calls for two pairs of production ships and shuttle tankers to replace a cluster of vessels at the site, Coast Guard Admiral Thad Allen, the government’s national incident commander for the spill, said yesterday at a press conference in Washington.

The well was releasing between 20,000 barrels and 40,000 barrels a day, twice as much as previously estimated, before BP cut away a kinked pipe on June 3, U.S. government scientists and independent researchers reported June 10. They are still studying the current leak rate. BP recovered about 7,570 barrels of oil during the first 12 hours of today.

Call With Cameron

Based on government estimates, the drillship isn’t capturing as much of the spill as BP predicted earlier this month. In a June 4 interview with CBS, Suttles said the system would be capable of capturing as much as 90 percent of the flow.

The additional ships planned next month will give BP backup pumping ability in the event that one of the vessels can’t be used, Allen said.

“The issue is for BP to move quickly,” Allen said.

In its application for the well, London-based BP told the government it was prepared for a worst-case oil spill of 250,000 barrels a day.

U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron and President Barack Obama, meantime, talked today and Cameron expressed his “sadness” at the “human and environmental catastrophe” caused by the spill.

“The president and prime minister agreed that BP should continue -- as they have pledged -- to work intensively to ensure that all sensible and reasonable steps are taken as rapidly as practicable to deal with the consequences of this catastrophe,” Cameron’s office in London said in an e-mailed statement.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aRlScD2WqctA

its about time and it only took them 50 some odd days:rolleyes:

[cressydrift]

Here you go, one cracked seafloor with oil coming. Stoping well, IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2RxIQP0IBU


EDIT : This is bad... Real bad!

[LiquidTurbo]

^

Holy shit.

[Teriyaki]

^

Holy shit.

We're really effed now

[Fafine]

im curious about what u.s mean by "giving bp 48 hours" whats u.s gonna do after 48 hours if bp dont contain it

[sunny_j]

^^^holly shit

http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2010/06/13/bp-gulf-oil-spill-seafloor-oil-gas-leak-videos-photos/

[1exotic]

We're really effed now

Nuke it.

The cracks are probably from the original oil well that's shooting oil. Just nuke the mother fucking thing and see what happens... becuase there is not other option. If the nuke dosen't work then we're fucked.

[orange7]

BP has really fucked the world up. Even at the current state, it's gonna take forever to recover.

[Ducdesmo]

Nuke it.

The cracks are probably from the original oil well that's shooting oil. Just nuke the mother fucking thing and see what happens... becuase there is not other option. If the nuke dosen't work then we're fucked.

That's a very dangerous decision. If it doesn't work, then we will eventually have a black sea. Not to mention all the toxic gases that is currently coming out, I think life = gg.

[_Hotsauce_]

BP doesn't want their employees talking to the media, even though the Big Wigs say other wise....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZHnStD690U

Also, more pictures (Not from Boston Big Picture)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_and_canada/10293415.stm

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

pfff what employee, they are all gonna get fired after this...

[gdoh]

there gunna be so fucked when hurricanes pick up that oil

[LiquidTurbo]

BP doesn't want their employees talking to the media, even though the Big Wigs say other wise....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZHnStD690U

Also, more pictures (Not from Boston Big Picture)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_and_canada/10293415.stm

Hilarious. They probably told them.. "you talk to the media, we'll bury your family.".

What's more outrageous is the lack of respirators being used. because BP 'doesn't want to cause a panic'. Simply unreal.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that inhaling crude vapours and being exposed to dispersants like Corexit is not good for you.

[NashMan]

well at lest my car will be finished this life time

[StylinRed]

wow is it really kevin costners machine? LOL

well he bought the rights to it during his Waterworld movie from the guys who were developing it for the Exxon spill

then he sent it to some engineers /scientists to improve it and develop it further

so its his in that he owns it but he didnt make it :)

he did put in $20+million of his money into it though (so even after selling the units to BP he hasnt made his money back)

[BlackZRoadster]

Here you go, one cracked seafloor with oil coming. Stoping well, IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2RxIQP0IBU


EDIT : This is bad... Real bad, michael jackson!

fixed

[46_valentinor]

http://www.wimp.com/spillsolution/
have you guys seen that?
the actual demonstration starts halfway.

[c32]

wow i cant beleive how some ppl dont think the ocean is important... the ocean reefs is what filters the water... were all gona die in 10 years..

[sunny_j]

wow i cant beleive how some ppl dont think the ocean is important... the ocean reefs is what filters the water... were all gona die in 10 years..

if the ocean dies we die

[c32]

we shuolda all set up salt water fish tanks, biggest as possible and save the live rocks!!! maybe our only chance, the dam fuckers that didnt decide to fix the problem right away should pay for saving the live rocks!! set up a big fuckin tank, gather as much live rocks as possible... well the live rocks are probably soaked in oil by now..

[Slifer]

http://www.wimp.com/spillsolution/
have you guys seen that?
the actual demonstration starts halfway.

Why aren't they using the microbes?! :confused:
Have they forgotten about this technique? I don't get it..

[haymura]

here's a question no one's really asked yet.

Lets say this spill will eventually leads to "the end of the world", how long is the duration between now and when it will most likely kill life on earth? any theories/calculations?

[Fafine]

^ hmm id say maybe 2012 LOL its not gonna end the world dont worry

[Ducdesmo]

here's a question no one's really asked yet.

Lets say this spill will eventually leads to "the end of the world", how long is the duration between now and when it will most likely kill life on earth? any theories/calculations?

Im going to go on a wild guess and say that in 10 years..the population will dwindle from 7 billion down to perhaps 500 million.

[Great68]

Ok, the world is not going to fucking end from this oil spill.

There was 10x the amount of oil released into the Persian gulf in 1991. Nowadays you could hardly tell there was such a massive oil spill back then, wildlife came back, things are business as usual. The world didn't end then did it? Mother nature is pretty damn resiliant.

[StylinRed]

end of the world? god you guys are gullible or too hopeful

[bengy]

I just thought of the solution!

Make the area a free for all, and have any willing oil company come and siphon off oil for free from the spill!

[murd0c]

the big difference hear is the big spill only happened in the Persian Gulf. The issue here is once it get's into the Atlantic is will cause a whole new shit storm with the ocean current's taking it all around the world.

[Senna4ever]

Ok, the world is not going to fucking end from this oil spill.

There was 10x the amount of oil released into the Persian gulf in 1991. Nowadays you could hardly tell there was such a massive oil spill back then, wildlife came back, things are business as usual. The world didn't end then did it? Mother nature is pretty damn resiliant.
Source? I think almost all of that oil was burned and or was spilled in the desert, not into the Persian Gulf.

If true, this article is very scary: http://www.rense.com/general91/oilor.htm

[belka]

Source? I think almost all of that oil was burned and or was spilled in the desert, not into the Persian Gulf.

If true, this article is very scary: http://www.rense.com/general91/oilor.htm

Going a little overboard? Tsunami's? I somehow doubt this.

[_Hotsauce_]

^
Did you read the article? Seems plausible.

[Great68]

Source? I think almost all of that oil was burned and or was spilled in the desert, not into the Persian Gulf.

If true, this article is very scary: http://www.rense.com/general91/oilor.htm


http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/06/04/kuwait.oil.spill/index.html?iref=allsearch

Lessons learned from the largest oil spill in history

(CNN) -- As oil continues to pour into the Gulf of Mexico following the Deepwater Horizon oil rig explosion, comfort may come from an unusual direction: the largest oil spill in history.

Between five and 10 million barrels of oil poured into the Persian Gulf in 1991 when Iraqi troops, retreating from their occupation of Kuwait, set fire to desert oil wells and opened the valves on oil rigs and pipelines.

The spill -- at least five times the most recent estimate of that spilled in the Gulf of Mexico -- devastated marine wildlife and coastal habitats in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.

Yet, against all the odds, the Persian Gulf appears to have shown amazing resilience in response to the ecological disaster.

Nicolas Pilcher is a marine specialist with the International Union for Conservation of Nature.

He was in neighboring Saudi Arabia as oil began washing ashore on the beaches. It had flowed south along the coast from Kuwait.

"It was huge," Pilcher told CNN. "It's hard to describe for people who weren't there but it was basically a coast of black."

By the time Saudi authorities and international contractors initiated clean-up efforts, pumping oil from the sea into holding areas, much of the oil had sunk, evaporated or washed up on beaches, according to Pilcher.

"You would see oil on the beach or along the shoreline in the water, but it wasn't there for more than about a month," he said.

But oil slicks had an immediate and catastrophic impact on local wildlife.

Christophe Tourenq, science and research manager at the World Wildlife Fund's UAE office told CNN that researchers estimate 30,000 water birds were killed by the oil.

Fish eggs and larvae were killed by slicks, which in turn reduced the breeding success of some bird species by 50 percent in the year after the spill, he said.

But, according to researchers, in the years following the spill the Gulf's ecosystem began to make a remarkable comeback.

A 2008 joint German-Saudi research paper on the effects of oil pollution in the Persian Gulf stated that by 1994, fish and bird populations had returned to pre-spill levels. Whale, dolphin and turtle populations were largely unaffected, according to the same study.

The fishing industry was decimated after the oil spill and Iraqi mines made the Gulf a no-go area for Kuwaiti and Saudi fishermen. But, it too, had started to show signs of improvement by 1994, the same study shows, and is widely considered to have made a full recovery from the after effects of the spill today.

"What they found, and they've found in other places in the world, is that nature does recover," said Pilcher.

Although a colossal amount of oil was released into the Gulf, Pilcher said up to half may have simply disappeared from the water by a combination of evaporation and degradation by bacteria in the sea.

In the Persian Gulf, the local climate -- very hot and humid for most of the year -- would have helped.

Abdul Nabi Al-Ghadban of Kuwait Institute for Scientific Research has studied the impact of the spill.

He told CNN: "If you have a higher air/water temperature the lighter fraction of the oil, which is more toxic, evaporates, and the heavy fraction, which is least toxic, goes to the bottom."

"That's why with an incident like the Exxon Valdez, although in terms of volume it was far less than the spill in the Arabian Gulf, in that part of the world, because of the colder water the impact can be stronger.

"The lighter fraction stays there for a longer period and can inflict a lot of damage compared with hot areas."

Nonetheless, the oil spill has left the Gulf with some scars that have not yet healed. Ghadban said coral reefs have been damaged, particularly off the coast of Saudi Arabia.

And the heavier oil fractions, which don't evaporate or dissolve, have sunk into coastal sediments.

A 2003 U.S. study found huge quantities of oil in the sediment of salt marshes, mudflats and mangroves on the coast of Saudi Arabia.

Laila Hayat, of Kuwaiti activists Green Line Environmental Group, told CNN she feared that oil buried in beach sands could be released by the erosive action of coastal currents. It's a fear shared by Ghadban, who said studies are being carried out to test the likelihood of that occurring.

So, can any lessons from the Persian Gulf spill be applied to the ongoing Gulf of Mexico spill?

According to the latest U.S. government estimates, up to 855,000 barrels of oil have spilled into the Gulf of Mexico since a 5,000-foot-deep well erupted after an explosion and fire aboard the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig on April 20.

"There are probably similarities [between the spills], although it's too early to tell," said Pilcher. "One issue in the Gulf of Mexico is the sunken oil -- whether that ever makes it up on the surface and on the shores, or will it just sink to the bottom.

"In terms of the clean up, I think some coastal habitats are just way too fragile to be touched.

"Some of those coastal marshes will probably be more damaged by clean-up activities than they would be if they were left to deal with the disaster on their own."

For Ghadban, the lessons from the 1991 oil spill are all too relevant to the Gulf of Mexico spill.

"If you have an offshore operation you need to have a good contingency plan in case of spillage, damage, earthquake, or a problem with the pipeline.

"We learned the lesson that we have to have an action plan -- you have to expect the unexpected."

[7seven]

I was reading a blurb in the Gartman Letter last week and a very good point was made, during World War 2, German U-Boats sunk over 40 Oil Tankers off the Gulf Coast spilling approx. 500,000 tons of crude oil, refined oil and aviation fuel into the Gulf Coast. No booms, dispersants or any clean up was ever done and we all know that the wildlife, waters and shoreline restored itself.

[orange7]

^

true.. it will restore itself eventually.....

but we shouldn't look at the situation like this.

[- kT]

let's just hope that this time will be the same as those other instances

[murd0c]

the earth has died and come back to life hundreds of times I'm sure, this is just it's natural cycle is will happen again it's just really a matter of time. Fail me if you want but it happened with the Dinosaurs, if there is such a thing called Atlantis and I'm sure other cultures that have been wiped of the face of the earth we don't know about.

Like I said it might not happen now but the way we are destroying the earth it will happen again it's just up to us how quick it will happen this time.

[penner2k]

I'm still gonna go around telling girls that this oil spill does mean the end of the world and they should have fun while they still can.

[mr_chin]

Microbes will work but it will not solve the entire problem. You will need a lot of microbe to clean this up.

You can't expect mother nature to solve it. It will heal but it'll definitely leave something behind. Thing of earth as our body. If we leave a scar untreated it'll heal but it'll leave a big scar.

Nukes is problem a very very last resort because 1) if it doesn't work and it blows a bigger whole, then what? 2) radiation will create a much bigger problem than 1,000,000 barrels leaking a day.

BP is clearly not dealing with it because they're slowly raking up the oil to recover their cost. the US and every country aroud the world should realize that this is a global issue and whoever has the right yo terminate their rights still be there should come in a help aid the problem.
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[goo3]

For Ghadban, the lessons from the 1991 oil spill are all too relevant to the Gulf of Mexico spill.

"If you have an offshore operation you need to have a good contingency plan in case of spillage, damage, earthquake, or a problem with the pipeline.

"We learned the lesson that we have to have an action plan -- you have to expect the unexpected."

This is the problem right here. Can't just blame BP, blame the govt too for not setting and enforcing safety standards.

What if something fucks up? The answers apparently were "Oh, it won't fuck up" and "We'll figure something out if it happens. Maybe we'll nuke it."

[Ducdesmo]

I like how everyone thinks everything is all fine and dandy and that the earth will repair itself and life goes on. Humans created this mess and are ultimately responsible for the diaster. When the well continues to gush in august at millions of gallons per day, I hopes it knocks some sense into people. Though I would love to be wrong.
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[7seven]

^

true.. it will restore itself eventually.....

but we shouldn't look at the situation like this.

I'm not saying this isn't a serious problem, but just that everyone thats running around like chicken little screaming that the sky is falling needs to relax a bit, its not all doom and gloom/end of the world scenario.

[haymura]

i will make a statement that will probably get me a lot of fails and flame but i havent had those in awhile so bring em on.

everyone here blames BP or the US government or whoever there is to blame. I bet some people even blame chuck norris for chopping the ground with his left hand and causing the crack on the sea bed. What people fail to realize is the ones to blame are EVERYONE. We drive bikes, planes trains and automobiles and consume oil on a daily basis. RS, VCC, E90, audizine, and other car forums are to blame as well. We modify our cars with bigger turbos, bigger engines, and "all they wanna do is "ma zoom zoom and a vroom vroom, just shake it up!" all of this adds up to consumers supplying and demanding more gasoline. obviously businesses strive on consumer demand and therefore supply it to make money. That ultimately leads to companies finding more supplies and thus we are faced with the current disaster before us and guess what is happening? thats right, "we start pointing fingers"

Now i love to point fingers just as much as the next guy, especially if "it wasnt me" who caused the problem but lets face it people... we are to blame! of course, as humans we tend to be stubborn and lazy and greedy. instead of finding a way to "heal the world", we instead stare at the "man in the mirror" and say: "remember the time" when this happened before? well it will pass", and away we go with our daily lives.

think about it guys... and while ur thinking, kindly press that fail (or thank) button. im starting to feel lonely here that no one is giving me either a negative or positive credit.

[Alphamale]

^Happy?

[Ducdesmo]

I'm not saying this isn't a serious problem, but just that everyone thats running around like chicken little screaming that the sky is falling needs to relax a bit, its not all doom and gloom/end of the world scenario.

Expect the worst, hope for the best. Nobody knows if this is the end of the world. If that is the case everyone would be selling everything they own and buying hookers and blow all day long. Point is, sure there have been bigger spills in the past. But things are a bit different this time around. An estimated 20-70k psi is gushing out. A normal well is measured at 1000psi. There are toxic gases and fumes that are not being disclosed. Militrary on the shores. Bp hiding shit. People getting sick. WTF is going on.
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[Great68]

i will make a statement that will probably get me a lot of fails and flame but i havent had those in awhile so bring em on.

everyone here blames BP or the US government or whoever there is to blame. I bet some people even blame chuck norris for chopping the ground with his left hand and causing the crack on the sea bed. What people fail to realize is the ones to blame are EVERYONE. We drive bikes, planes trains and automobiles and consume oil on a daily basis. RS, VCC, E90, audizine, and other car forums are to blame as well. We modify our cars with bigger turbos, bigger engines, and "all they wanna do is "ma zoom zoom and a vroom vroom, just shake it up!" all of this adds up to consumers supplying and demanding more gasoline. obviously businesses strive on consumer demand and therefore supply it to make money. That ultimately leads to companies finding more supplies and thus we are faced with the current disaster before us and guess what is happening? thats right, "we start pointing fingers"

Now i love to point fingers just as much as the next guy, especially if "it wasnt me" who caused the problem but lets face it people... we are to blame! of course, as humans we tend to be stubborn and lazy and greedy. instead of finding a way to "heal the world", we instead stare at the "man in the mirror" and say: "remember the time" when this happened before? well it will pass", and away we go with our daily lives.

think about it guys... and while ur thinking, kindly press that fail (or thank) button. im starting to feel lonely here that no one is giving me either a negative or positive credit.

Gasoline is only one product that is produced from oil. Do you own anything made out of plastic?

Modern existence would have to de-evolve 100 years to end our dependence on oil.

[_Hotsauce_]

i will make a statement that will probably get me a lot of fails and flame but i havent had those in awhile so bring em on.

everyone here blames BP or the US government or whoever there is to blame. I bet some people even blame chuck norris for chopping the ground with his left hand and causing the crack on the sea bed. What people fail to realize is the ones to blame are EVERYONE. We drive bikes, planes trains and automobiles and consume oil on a daily basis. RS, VCC, E90, audizine, and other car forums are to blame as well. We modify our cars with bigger turbos, bigger engines, and "all they wanna do is "ma zoom zoom and a vroom vroom, just shake it up!" all of this adds up to consumers supplying and demanding more gasoline. obviously businesses strive on consumer demand and therefore supply it to make money. That ultimately leads to companies finding more supplies and thus we are faced with the current disaster before us and guess what is happening? thats right, "we start pointing fingers"

Now i love to point fingers just as much as the next guy, especially if "it wasnt me" who caused the problem but lets face it people... we are to blame! of course, as humans we tend to be stubborn and lazy and greedy. instead of finding a way to "heal the world", we instead stare at the "man in the mirror" and say: "remember the time" when this happened before? well it will pass", and away we go with our daily lives.

think about it guys... and while ur thinking, kindly press that fail (or thank) button. im starting to feel lonely here that no one is giving me either a negative or positive credit.

I agree with the fact that humans are dependent on this natural resource, but disagree with the fact that it's "everyones fault". There should have been more then ONE fucking fail safe. Sure, it's one of the deepest wells around, but yeah, RISK MANAGEMENT MOTHER FUCKERS. Learn it.

[Noir]

I agree with the fact that humans are dependent on this natural resource, but disagree with the fact that it's "everyones fault". There should have been more then ONE fucking fail safe. Sure, it's one of the deepest wells around, but yeah, RISK MANAGEMENT MOTHER FUCKERS. Learn it.

There were a couple of failsafes. The problem was that when the failsafe was damaged during drilling, and the other non-responsive, no repairs were made due the BP pushing for expediency.

[Onassis]

Everyones just gotta look at the brighter side of things, we can finally add this to the list of reasons why West Coast > East Coast.

[_Hotsauce_]

There were a couple of failsafes. The problem was that when the failsafe was damaged during drilling, and the other non-responsive, no repairs were made due the BP pushing for expediency.

To my knowledge it was just the blowout preventer. What else was there?

Every fail safe should have a fail safe. Non-responsive fail safes should are UNACCEPTABLE in this kind of situation. They should have had 10 emergency shutoff's to prevent against "non responsive" issues, or damage to another. But no, all about increasing profit and decreasing expenses.

[Noir]

To my knowledge it was just the blowout preventer. What else was there?

I'll have to watch the 20/20 Interview again because my terminology would be incorrect. But Failsafe #1 is the rubber drill valve that got damaged during drilling, and Failsafe #2 was an electronic control box on the drill.

[_Hotsauce_]

Lol....First estimates stated 5,000 barrels of oil a day leaking into the gulf. Today, scientists state it's more like 60,000 barrels per day. (Figured calculated by 2.52 mil / standard barrel size of 42 gal)

Source -->http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37700674/ns/disaster_in_the_gulf

I still find it funny that they can't pinpoint an actual amount...in the article they state "between 1.47 million and 2.52 million gallons". I know little about statistics, but you know +/-1000, or +/- 5000 would be understandable, but saying it could be figure X or X2 (roughly). Just seems a little odd to me.

Also in the article BP is quoted saying "it hopes to trap as much as roughly 2.2 million gallons of oil daily by the end of June as it deploys additional containment equipment, including the flaring system. " which is great even though they don't have an accurate # of barrels that are leaking....I guess roughly means +/- 1,000,000 gallons

[cressydrift]

^ Considering the estimated volume of the oil well was 13 trillion barrels, which starts from gulf and goes all the way to South America. There is a shit load of oil coming out...

[sunny_j]

I agree with the fact that humans are dependent on this natural resource, but disagree with the fact that it's "everyones fault". There should have been more then ONE fucking fail safe. Sure, it's one of the deepest wells around, but yeah, RISK MANAGEMENT MOTHER FUCKERS. Learn it.

did you watch these?

60 Minutes - BP disaster - Deepwater Horizon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0onXmlFgF8I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N58oCgl9j2c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzPod_jSh8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNkuWuicFJE

[Great68]

I'll have to watch the 20/20 Interview again because my terminology would be incorrect. But Failsafe #1 is the rubber drill valve that got damaged during drilling, and Failsafe #2 was an electronic control box on the drill.

First of all those are all part of one system: The blowout preventer. They are no other safety systems other than the BOP to stop a blowout.

Second, those devices cannot be called "fail safes" as they do not inherently put the system into a safe state. The rams that close in on the pipe are hydraulic and require a motor with adequate battery power to make them work. Many things could go wrong from keeping the system working.

A more conceptual "fail safe" design would be if they had constant hydraulic pressure keeping the rams OPEN against spring pressure or something, then if hydraulic pressure was lost the springs would ram the BOP closed. This is kind of how Air Brakes on trucks work, the air pressure keeps the brake shoes OFF the drums so if air pressure is lost the brakes are automatically applied hence fail safe. I'm not saying what I describe is practical to do on a BOP on the ocean floor, but it illustrates what actually is "fail safe" design.

They did not even design the BOP to be able to cut through joints in the drill pipe, which means they never did design for some of the worst-case scenarios in the first place. They just went on the fact that something like this had not happened before, so therefore they were safe. One GOOD thing that will come out of this disaster is that they will completely redesign the BOP's.

[trip]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRl6-o8CpXA

[donjalapeno]

fuck.....bye bye sea life. I hope BP loses everything they have.

[mr_chin]

i will make a statement that will probably get me a lot of fails and flame but i havent had those in awhile so bring em on.

everyone here blames BP or the US government or whoever there is to blame. I bet some people even blame chuck norris for chopping the ground with his left hand and causing the crack on the sea bed. What people fail to realize is the ones to blame are EVERYONE. We drive bikes, planes trains and automobiles and consume oil on a daily basis. RS, VCC, E90, audizine, and other car forums are to blame as well. We modify our cars with bigger turbos, bigger engines, and "all they wanna do is "ma zoom zoom and a vroom vroom, just shake it up!" all of this adds up to consumers supplying and demanding more gasoline. obviously businesses strive on consumer demand and therefore supply it to make money. That ultimately leads to companies finding more supplies and thus we are faced with the current disaster before us and guess what is happening? thats right, "we start pointing fingers"

Now i love to point fingers just as much as the next guy, especially if "it wasnt me" who caused the problem but lets face it people... we are to blame! of course, as humans we tend to be stubborn and lazy and greedy. instead of finding a way to "heal the world", we instead stare at the "man in the mirror" and say: "remember the time" when this happened before? well it will pass", and away we go with our daily lives.

think about it guys... and while ur thinking, kindly press that fail (or thank) button. im starting to feel lonely here that no one is giving me either a negative or positive credit.

I agree with you that BP and the government shouldn't be blamed. As a matter of fact, we shouldn't be blaming. But your statement about being everyones fault goes waaay back into history. Do you expect to rely on nothigng except on what is in front of us made naturally but mother nature. You can't. In these situation, its okay to gather natural resources from this planet but we need to consider that there is a borderline and not just go out of everyones way top get them without even thinking that our planet is at stake. This kind of accident need to be dealt with immediately by anyone who can. All money and stocks and all that kinda bullshit needs to be put aside. Unfortunately, for the sake of business and not our home planet, everyone only worries about their wallet.

To the person saying that this is not a doomsday situation and everyone needs to calm down. Everyone needs to panick to put pressure on whoever is recovering this mess. Every minute and every hour, this mess gets bigger. If what rense.com say is true, then calming is definitely not something we should do.
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[murd0c]

What I'm kinda worried about now is the releif well that won't be ready until aug. One main concern with the original well is the unseen pressures comming from it. Who says that this releif well won't see the same pressures and could cause another blowout?????

Has that even been brought up yet? It seems like they are saying once the 2nd well is drilled everything will be fine but it seems like no one has asked do we even have the technolgy to handle these pressures now?????
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[_Hotsauce_]

It's all BS and no one has any fucking idea wtf to do.

[Tegra_Devil]

fuck.....bye bye sea life. I hope BP loses everything they have.

BP is a corner stone to the British Economy.

it will get rough there if they go under

[nosaj]

did you watch these?

60 Minutes - BP disaster - Deepwater Horizon



thanks for the good watch

[Noizz]

What I'm kinda worried about now is the releif well that won't be ready until aug. One main concern with the original well is the unseen pressures comming from it. Who says that this releif well won't see the same pressures and could cause another blowout?????

Has that even been brought up yet? It seems like they are saying once the 2nd well is drilled everything will be fine but it seems like no one has asked do we even have the technolgy to handle these pressures now?????
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Pressure was only part of the equation. In the 60 minutes video, they knew the annular was broken because black chunks of rubber were comping up the pipe, but nobody decided to do anything about it.

The reason it blow-out occurred was because of faulty blow-out preventer (the rubber annular was not functioning). If the annular is functional in the new blow-out preventers then it should work. Hopefully......

[trip]

Simmons - 125,000 bbl A Day Now -
Nuke Is Only Option - Vid

http://video.godlikeproductions.com/video/Simmons_Says_Nuclear_Device_Only_Option_to_Stop_Oi l_Flow?id=0010887cc7d849469a1

[trip]

Sea creatures flee oil spill, gather near shore


GULF SHORES, Ala. — Dolphins and sharks are showing up in surprisingly shallow water just off the Florida coast. Mullets, crabs, rays and small fish congregate by the thousands off an Alabama pier. Birds covered in oil are crawling deep into marshes, never to be seen again.

Marine scientists studying the effects of the BP disaster are seeing some strange — and troubling — phenomena.

Fish and other wildlife are fleeing the oil out in the Gulf and clustering in cleaner waters along the coast. But that is not the hopeful sign it might appear to be, researchers say.

The animals' presence close to shore means their usual habitat is badly polluted, and the crowding could result in mass die-offs as fish run out of oxygen. Also, the animals could easily get devoured by predators.

"A parallel would be: Why are the wildlife running to the edge of a forest on fire? There will be a lot of fish, sharks, turtles trying to get out of this water they detect is not suitable," said Larry Crowder, a Duke University marine biologist.

The nearly two-month-old oil spill has created an environmental catastrophe unparalleled in U.S. history as tens of millions of gallons of have spewed into the Gulf of Mexico ecosystem. Scientists are seeing some unusual things as they try to understand the effects on thousands of species of marine life.

Day by day, scientists in boats tally up dead birds, sea turtles and other animals, but the toll is surprisingly small given the size of the disaster. The latest figures show that 783 birds, 353 turtles and 41 mammals have died — numbers that pale in comparison to what happened after the Exxon Valdez disaster in Alaska in 1989, when 250,000 birds and 2,800 otters are believed to have died.

Researchers say there are several reasons for the relatively small death toll: The vast nature of the spill means scientists are able to locate only a small fraction of the dead animals. Many will never be found after sinking to the bottom of the sea or getting scavenged by other marine life. And large numbers of birds are meeting their deaths deep in the Louisiana marshes where they seek refuge from the onslaught of oil.

"That is their understanding of how to protect themselves," said Doug Zimmer, spokesman for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

For nearly four hours Monday, a three-person crew with Greenpeace cruised past delicate islands and mangrove-dotted inlets in Barataria Bay off southern Louisiana. They saw dolphins by the dozen frolicking in the oily sheen and oil-tinged pelicans feeding their young. But they spotted no dead animals.

"I think part of the reason why we're not seeing more yet is that the impacts of this crisis are really just beginning," Greenpeace marine biologist John Hocevar said.

As for the fish, locals are seeing large schools hanging around piers where fishing has been banned; apparently the fish feel safer now that they are not being disturbed by fishermen.

Also, researchers believe fish are swimming closer to shore because the water is cleaner and more abundant in oxygen. Father out in the Gulf, researchers say, the spill is not only tainting the water with oil but also depleting oxygen levels.

A similar scenario occurs during "dead zone" periods — the time during summer months when oxygen becomes so depleted that fish race toward shore in large numbers. Sometimes, so many fish gather close to the shoreline off Mobile that locals rush to the beach with tubs and nets to reap the harvest.

But this latest shore migration could prove deadly.

First, more oil could eventually wash ashore and overwhelm the fish. They could also become trapped between the slick and the beach, leading to increased competition for oxygen in the water and causing them to die as they run out of air.

"Their ability to avoid it may be limited in the long term, especially if in near-shore refuges they're crowding in close to shore, and oil continues to come in. At some point they'll get trapped," Crowder said. "It could lead to die-offs."

The fish could also fall victim to predators such as sharks and seabirds. Already there have been increased shark sightings in shallow waters along the Gulf Coast.

The counting of dead wildlife in the Gulf is more than an academic exercise; the deaths will help determine how much BP pays in damages.

Roger Helm, chief of the Fish and Wildlife Service's contaminants division, said the government expects a battle with BP over the extent of the damage and has every incentive to be scientifically credible.

"Both sides go to their own corner and interpret the data the way they want," Helm said. "This is a legal process, and if we can't get an agreement we'll end up in court."



http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gEsS5h6C_l_Ndr7VMsRzKLN9qNdgD9GCIK304





Gulf Coast beaches update

(CNN) -- The oil spill on the Gulf Coast has states and visitors bureaus working hard to keep the public updated and reassure beach-bound travelers.

Here are some of the latest updates from destinations affected by the oil disaster:

Northwest Florida

Dime-size to 5-inch tar balls continue to wash up in widely scattered areas of the region, but all of Florida's beaches remain open, according to Visit Florida, the state's tourism corporation.

"There have been no reports of Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill-related oil products reaching the shore beyond the Northwest Florida region," Visit Florida's website said.

The beaches and waters at tourist hot spots like Destin, Fort Walton Beach and Okaloosa Island are open, according to the Emerald Coast Convention and Visitors Bureau, which represents the three destinations.

"The air here is also still fresh and clean, with no smell of oil whatsoever," the bureau's website said.

A few tar balls have been spotted, however, and there is a chance the area could see the approach of oil sheen in the coming week, according to the bureau.

iReport: Share your photos of affected beaches

There have been no oil effects in Panama City Beach, Florida, and the area's beaches and waters are open, the Panama City Beach Convention and Visitors Bureau website said.

The water at Pensacola Beach is also open for swimming and fishing, according to the Pensacola Bay Area Convention and Visitors Bureau.

A health advisory has been issued for beaches stretching from the Florida-Alabama line to the entrance of Johnson Beach on Perdido Key, the Pensacola Bay Area visitors bureau said. Swimming and fishing in the affected waters are not advised.

Gulf Islands National Seashore

All of the Gulf Islands National Seashore sites, which are located in Florida and Mississippi, are open, the park service's website said.

Crews are finishing the cleanup of existing oil on Petit Bois Island, Mississippi.

Meanwhile, more oil has been reported approaching Pensacola Pass, between the western point of Fort Pickens on Santa Rosa Island and the eastern coast of Perdido Key, according to the website.

Gulf Shores and Orange Beach, Alabama

Gulf Shores and Orange Beach, Alabama, have experienced significant oiling, according to the Alabama Gulf Coast Convention and Visitors Bureau.

The beaches remain open for sunbathing and walking, but the City of Orange Beach is flying double red flags, meaning the waters are closed to the public.

Public beaches in Gulf Shores are flying a yellow flag, meaning that caution is necessary.

The Alabama Department of Public Health has issued an advisory against swimming in waters off Gulf Shores, Orange Beach and Fort Morgan or in bay waters close to Fort Morgan, Bayou St. John, Terry Cove, Cotton Bayou or Old River.

Grand Isle, Louisiana

Oil is affecting more than 45 miles of Louisiana coast, according to a state emergency website, although most of the coast is unaffected.

"The primary affected area is from the mouth of the Mississippi River extending east. Over 75 percent of Louisiana's coastal waters extend westward from the mouth of the Mississippi River," according to the Cajun Coast Visitors and Convention Bureau website.

Grand Isle has closed its public beach, the site said.


http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/06/16/oil.spill.beaches/




!!!

[Hondaracer]

shit is -fucked-

way worse than the media is portraying it

[sunny_j]

!!!

wow

[hal0g0dv2]

wow in that 4th video when he is putting his hand threw the water is fucked

[sunny_j]

the marine life

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_560813.html.

[sunny_j]

bp ceo tony hayward is getting grilled by a US govt. panel on cnn

[NashMan]

lots of no comments

[LiquidTurbo]

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i214/hoboknj/tumblr_l2tqlzbshR1qzenl9o1_500.gif

[illicitstylz]

the marine life

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_560813.html.

pictures like this are so disheartening when you know the wildlife are already under constant detrimental anthropogenic pressures and everyday they struggle to survive. Yet after enduring for so many years (judging by the size of the turtle) it ends up being intoxicated and poisoned with oil...

[NashMan]

dang it i had to got to school and did not see the hole roasting of BP's Tony Hayward

i figured i would find it on the net but all i find is small clips

[_Hotsauce_]

^
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/17/tony-hayward-testimony-video_n_616690.html

Not the full thing, but it's a summary

[Senna4ever]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Forum%20crap/rs004.jpg

[cressydrift]

^
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/17/tony-hayward-testimony-video_n_616690.html

Not the full thing, but it's a summary

Someone needs to put a bullet in this man's head.

[_Hotsauce_]

^
A company that has 6000+ oil rigs in the Gulf, I think it would be hard to oversea the safety regulations, and general operations of every single one.

[Ducdesmo]

It's not a CEO's responsibility to oversee each project and know all the technical details, but rather direct the company into new markets and opportunties. He is getting grilled by congress only because that is what the public would like to see. I don't think he was very ethical lying around the numbers, but at the same time I don't believe the administration is doing enough to resolve the problem.
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[LiquidTurbo]

This is fucked, BP not allowing respirator to try and downplay the 'image' of the cleanup. These are highly toxic chemicals. Firing people if they wear respirators?! WTF.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4bDW12Fr78&feature=player_embedded

[cressydrift]

^
A company that has 6000+ oil rigs in the Gulf, I think it would be hard to oversea the safety regulations, and general operations of every single one.

When something like this goes wrong... for as long as it has, it's your job to know everything. The guy clearly knows, just didn't want to say anything.

[Noir]

When something like this goes wrong... for as long as it has, it's your job to know everything. The guy clearly knows, just didn't want to say anything.

TBH, it wasn't pretty but that was the best play he can make for that situation.

[ChaKo]

Someone needs to put a bullet in this man's head.

more fuel for the fire

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=10958973&cid=ESPNheadline

[bengy]

When something like this goes wrong... for as long as it has, it's your job to know everything. The guy clearly knows, just didn't want to say anything.

Actually, the higher up the corporate pyramid people are, the less they are involved with everything bellow. It's all about numbers, and they don't care how shit gets done, they tell their underlings to find a way to do it.

[cressydrift]

Actually, the higher up the corporate pyramid people are, the less they are involved with everything bellow. It's all about numbers, and they don't care how shit gets done, they tell their underlings to find a way to do it.

Yea yea, I understand how the "Corporate Ladder" works. What I am saying is that this spill has been going on for how long? 3 months? I am sure he has been well briefed on everything.

:bullshit:

[cressydrift]

more fuel for the fire

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=10958973&cid=ESPNheadline

Awesome.

[cressydrift]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEhhVmxYSNI

[Slifer]

^Whats up with the creepy music?

[Hurricane]

To be honest...this is all a bunch of BS

The cracks in the ocean floor leaking oil are completely unrelated to this well, have been going on for millions of years, and will continue to go on in the future.

While the spill will have a significant short term environmental impact, its far from the end of the world.

As far as the microbe discussion, they are already out there. These are naturally occurring, and adding more will do nothing to help.

Every time there is an oil spill, the world (media) overreacts and time and time again, nature has proven to be exceptionally resilient in overcoming the impacts.

The only thing this particular event will lead to is the development of improved safety and preventative measures in the future. That is it. Period. End of story.

Stop believing the hype.

[_Hotsauce_]

25,000 barrels of oil

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7_rPDwSKe8&feature=player_embedded

[_Hotsauce_]

When something like this goes wrong... for as long as it has, it's your job to know everything. The guy clearly knows, just didn't want to say anything.

Yes, but it's also his job to keep his shareholders happy...Sooo, avoidance is key here I think

[jackal]

they won't have any shareholders when this is all done.

also lmfao with the last 5 sec of the vid about respirators. that guys face was priceless.

[cressydrift]

To be honest...this is all a bunch of BS

The cracks in the ocean floor leaking oil are completely unrelated to this well, have been going on for millions of years, and will continue to go on in the future.

While the spill will have a significant short term environmental impact, its far from the end of the world.

As far as the microbe discussion, they are already out there. These are naturally occurring, and adding more will do nothing to help.

Every time there is an oil spill, the world (media) overreacts and time and time again, nature has proven to be exceptionally resilient in overcoming the impacts.

The only thing this particular event will lead to is the development of improved safety and preventative measures in the future. That is it. Period. End of story.

Stop believing the hype.

So to you this is no big deal? 60 - 120+ million gallons of oil in the gulf is nothing right? Happens in nature all the time?

Your right about the media overreacting. They overreact about everything, remember swine flu? This time though I think they are under-reacting. This oil spill will be the largest in earths history all said and done. Who knows how much oceanic wildlife will die because of this MAN MADE disaster! Its not like oceanic wildlife was exactly thriving before this happened. Overfishing, pollution, and hurricanes were already made the wildlife exhausted. Now this! Who knows when the well will be actually contained, then we can really worry about everything else.

Your user name, "Hurricane" is exactly when this will get really interesting. Not only will the fish, birds and etc be covered in oil. People who just started to recover after Katrina, are going to get double fucked.

Stop being so god damn naive.

[murd0c]

Apparently u failed my post. I am not online enough to know or care exactly how the failing/thanking system works, but why not post a response and tell me which of my statements are incorrect?

Are you one of those "the US government blew up the WTC on purpose" people? Or is your life just so dull you need to embrace some melodramatic bullshit glorified narrative about how BP is going to end human life on earth.


The reason why I gave you a fail is because by your comments you come off like it's not big deal. You say things happen natually yes in small amounts but not 100k + barrels of oil a day.

We are just starting to see the impact on the wildlife and just wait it will only get worse. This has nothing to go with the goverment or this being the end of human life. This is a horrible situtation which needs to be stopped right away because it will get worse and the media should over react because this will effect millions of people over the world.

[tonyvu]

EDIT: blahhh didnt see the video

[1exotic]

here's to put things in perspective

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvQCMiXyOTs

dude are you serious.

there's a video like a few posts above.

[Ducdesmo]

To be honest...this is all a bunch of BS

The cracks in the ocean floor leaking oil are completely unrelated to this well, have been going on for millions of years, and will continue to go on in the future.

While the spill will have a significant short term environmental impact, its far from the end of the world.

As far as the microbe discussion, they are already out there. These are naturally occurring, and adding more will do nothing to help.

Every time there is an oil spill, the world (media) overreacts and time and time again, nature has proven to be exceptionally resilient in overcoming the impacts.

The only thing this particular event will lead to is the development of improved safety and preventative measures in the future. That is it. Period. End of story.

Stop believing the hype.

You obviously don't really give a shit. If that is the case, let the rest of us discuss and you go watch your UFC or Peter Chao videos.

[J____]

lol after another month, Florida's already rock bottom housing market is going to sink some more as the oil surrounds their coastline. Too bad, it's just a nice state to be =(

[_Hotsauce_]

The oil is the silver streams in the water.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/44000/44375/USA7_TMO_2010170.jpg

source

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/view.php?id=44375

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

This is fucked, BP not allowing respirator to try and downplay the 'image' of the cleanup. These are highly toxic chemicals. Firing people if they wear respirators?! WTF.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4bDW12Fr78&feature=player_embedded

damn tats fucked up

[_Hotsauce_]

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/Big%20Oil%20Kills.jpg

[sunny_j]

BP deploys Costner's oil machine in Gulf cleanup
Hollywood star Kevin Costner joined BP (BP.L) (BP.N)'s efforts to clean up the oil-fouled Gulf of Mexico on Friday as the British company began deploying his "dream" machine to separate oil from water.

BP acquired 32 of the centrifuges to help remove some of the oil that has been gushing into the Gulf from its blown-out well in the worst oil spill in U.S. history.

The units are being deployed after BP tested them to see if they could handle the crude leaking from an undersea well for two months at an estimated rate of up to 60,000 barrels a day (2.5 million gallons/9.5 million liters).

"At its core, my dream, this machine, was designed ... to give us a fighting chance to fight back the oil that's got us by the throat," Costner told reporters.

"When you are in a fight, anybody knows you go to confront it right where it is. You don't wait for it to come to your door," the actor said at this oil industry supply port in southern Louisiana.

Moored behind him was a barge with his machines mounted on the deck that had returned to port to be fitted with a global positioning system to allow it to detect concentrations of oil.

Costner's company, Ocean Therapy Solutions, signed a contract with BP to provide 32 of the units that are expected to be working in the next 60 days, BP Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles said. Financial details were not disclosed.

Each machine, called a V20, can separate 210,000 gallons of oily water a day.

Costner, best-known for such films as "Dances with Wolves" and "Waterworld," stressed he was no overnight oil spill sensation. He has been trying to employ the technology designed by his company for the past 17 years, and has invested more than $20 million of his own money in its development.

Costner testified in the U.S. Congress last week about the need for a 21st century solution to the risks of drilling in waters as deep as one mile (1.6 km).

His proposals had been ignored and bureaucratic red tape hindered the introduction of new technology, he said


http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1814007820100619

its about fucking time time bp

[trip]

Oil reported just offshore Cuba; Forecast “clearly shows the oil moving southeastward”

http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/oil-reported-just-offshore-cuba-forecast-clearly-shows-the-oil-moving-southeastward


Man Finds OIL In Oyster In NC Restaurant

http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12680124


Oil Hits Sea Side Florida - Beaches Kept Open

video: http://video.godlikeproductions.com/video/Oil_hits_Seasidemov