[mike313]

In the three weeks since the April 20th explosion and sinking of the Deepwater Horizon oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico, and the start of the subsequent massive (and ongoing) oil leak, many attempts have been made to contain and control the scale of the environmental disaster. Oil dispersants are being sprayed, containment booms erected, protective barriers built, controlled burns undertaken, and devices are being lowered to the sea floor to try and cap the leaks, with little success to date. While tracking the volume of the continued flow of oil is difficult, an estimated 5,000 barrels of oil (possibly much more) continues to pour into the gulf every day. While visible damage to shorelines has been minimal to date as the oil has spread slowly, the scene remains, in the words of President Obama, a "potentially unprecedented environmental disaster."


http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/05/disaster_unfolds_slowly_in_the.html

[greendb7]

this is sad..

[Greenstoner]

real sad

[shenmecar]

this is bad

[Great68]

You know, I was all for offshore drilling here on the west coast but now not so much anymore...

[LiquidTurbo]

Drill Baby Drill!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn2Tyh6b5dE

[Spectre_Cdn]

:(

[Great68]

Drill Baby Drill!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn2Tyh6b5dE

I can't believe that woman is still receiving so much attention after she embarassed herself in the last election.

[dub.g]

:(

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/oilspill_05_12/o06_23298053.jpg

[gdoh]

wow you know they still havnt capped it yet and bp has already spent over 500mil on clean up...no words for this

[2damaxmr2]

woot gas price is going up. Instant cash grabbbb

[TylerTL]

Although I don't know much about this kind of thing, I really don't see why there wasn't an emergency valve at the base of the pipe. You would think that, because of the potential for financial and environmental disaster, some sort of precaution would be in place on these oil rigs. If BP has already spent over a half billion on "clean up" and lost what probably adds up to billions of dollars in leaking oil, the cost of an emergency valve would have been a wise investment.

Can't they just lower something made out of really heavy material to 'cork' the opening? 4:20 was a long time ago, I can't believe this is still leaking!

[Qmx323]

noooo


my wallet is sore from the rape

[Supafly]

this is bad

real bad....michael jackson bad...

[c3m]

Although I don't know much about this kind of thing, I really don't see why there wasn't an emergency valve at the base of the pipe. You would think that, because of the potential for financial and environmental disaster, some sort of precaution would be in place on these oil rigs. If BP has already spent over a half billion on "clean up" and lost what probably adds up to billions of dollars in leaking oil, the cost of an emergency valve would have been a wise investment.

Can't they just lower something made out of really heavy material to 'cork' the opening? 4:20 was a long time ago, I can't believe this is still leaking!

they did try to turn it off but the valve is stuck

[gdoh]

i think this wouldn't have happened if it already had a pump on it

[Great68]

Although I don't know much about this kind of thing, I really don't see why there wasn't an emergency valve at the base of the pipe. You would think that, because of the potential for financial and environmental disaster, some sort of precaution would be in place on these oil rigs.
Can't they just lower something made out of really heavy material to 'cork' the opening? 4:20 was a long time ago, I can't believe this is still leaking!

They do have an emergency valve, it's called a "Blowout Preventer", and it failed.

It's not easy to just "Cork" a wellhead, the oil is under HUGE pressure.

[Jsunu]

real bad....michael jackson bad...

This is makes me mad...real mad, Joe Jackson

[TylerTL]

They do have an emergency valve, it's called a "Blowout Preventer", and it failed.

It's not easy to just "Cork" a wellhead, the oil is under HUGE pressure.

Yea, I guess it would be too easy to just plug a hole that is so deep in the ocean and under so much pressure. I wonder how much longer it will go before they find a solution?

[Great68]

It's actually a lot WORSE than what we're hearing from the media right now.

The hole is 5 feet in diameter, and the oil is under 70,000psi of pressure. They're thinking it's closer to 4 barrels of oil (42 gallons, or 160L) per SECOND coming out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeVxjCSgbiI&

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-8199-Breakthrough-Energy-Examiner~y2010m5d13-A-volcano-of-oil-erupting

[124Y]

This is real sad indeed... and this is only the visible part of what we are doing to our planet... :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYa364KYpbU&feature=player_embedded

[you!]

It's actually a lot WORSE than what we're hearing from the media right now.

The hole is 5 feet in diameter, and the oil is under 70,000psi of pressure. They're thinking it's closer to 4 barrels of oil (42 gallons, or 160L) per SECOND coming out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeVxjCSgbiI&

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-8199-Breakthrough-Energy-Examiner~y2010m5d13-A-volcano-of-oil-erupting

holy fuck!!!

[orange7]

mutation..

[sunny_j]

:(

[JesseBlue]

watch while they 180 this whole thing to profit themselves in the end...

high demand...blah blah...low reserves blah blah...

[twitchyzero]

how often does something like this happen? (not oil tanker leak but oil rig?)

[RollingStone]

I hope out of all this people will finally WAKE UP and realize that our oil addicted-way-of-life is wack. Society needs to do everything it can to move towards a post-oil world by seriously investing in public transportation, renewable energies, increasing energy efficiency, increasing population density etc.

+1 for increasing the carbon tax (as long as we get an equal rebate on our income tax)

[91LS-VTak]

That's a lot of friggin' oil pouring out into the gulf. Bye bye animals =(

[Hondaracer]

there is no amount of money BP can put forward to fix this problem or even come close

today on the news they said "this spill is now 1/4 the amount of the exxon valdez"

i thought it was already worse than the Valdez like last week?..

[JSALES]

:(

[91LS-VTak]

In the newspapers and online (such as bbc news) the reports only say about 5000 barrels/day are leaking out. How can this guy be saying more than 200,000 barrels/day? If this guy is right, or at least closer to the actual number, why haven't any of the news companies picked up on it? Especially if BP told the U.S. gov't that a spill of 165,000 barrels/day wouldn't reach the shorelines. How could they possibly say that a 5000 barrel/day spill is reaching shore?

[Amuse]

Poor animals that have to live through that oil.

[Ch28]

Poor animals that have to die from that oil.

fixed.

:(

[LiquidTurbo]

FYI, Exxon Valdez only ranks as the 12th largest oil spill.

[!Aznboi128]

it's getting worse...

http://www.infrastructurist.com/wp-content/uploads/gulfofmexicomess.jpg

[unit]

In the newspapers and online (such as bbc news) the reports only say about 5000 barrels/day are leaking out. How can this guy be saying more than 200,000 barrels/day? If this guy is right, or at least closer to the actual number, why haven't any of the news companies picked up on it? Especially if BP told the U.S. gov't that a spill of 165,000 barrels/day wouldn't reach the shorelines. How could they possibly say that a 5000 barrel/day spill is reaching shore?

5000 a day is probably very conservative.
considering bp has hardly released any pictures of the actual leak, its just a figure that they're going by to keep the public happy.
at first they said 1000 a day.. .then it was changed to 5000.
i wouldnt be surprised if it were more like 30-40,000+ but who knows for now.
i think bp is trying to keep the # conservative because they're hoping to solve the prob before the truth has to come out.

[Porschedog]

damn... poor animals

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

damn that is simply insane, the ocean is totally polluted

[mikemhg]

What I don't understand is that when the Exxon Valdez Tanker capsized, it was on the new 24/7 it was media overload, pictures of birds covered in oil, on a daily basis.

This oil leak might be the largest in history, yet the media is barely touching it?

What a strange shift the world has turned in the last decade.

[bloodmack]

Sad thing is, we're going to get drilled up the nuts for gas prices, even though we dont get oil from the states.

[Manic!]

What I don't understand is that when the Exxon Valdez Tanker capsized, it was on the new 24/7 it was media overload, pictures of birds covered in oil, on a daily basis.

This oil leak might be the largest in history, yet the media is barely touching it?

What a strange shift the world has turned in the last decade.

Because oil has not hit the shores and covered animals as hard as like Exxon spill did. It will but it hasn't yet.

[cressydrift]

We are all to blame for this. If you do anything which requires oil (basically everything) then you are part to blame... I say "you" loosely though because I have a car and etc as well.

And to think the world almost didn't use oil 100 years ago. Tesla. Nothing makes me more angry than something like this. WE DO NOT NEED OIL, its just rammed down our throats and apparently there is no "alternative" solution. BULLSHIT. Its going to be the end of us.


ps - Running out of oil my ass... Look how much is coming out of one well.

Sorry for ranting just pissed about this.

[NashMan]

bye bye wild life for louisiana


well at lest they will still have there hot sauce


still in shock that is has not been plugged yet

[goo3]

you wonder how many of those oil wells have faulty cut off valves.

[orange7]

so is BP still going to run after this accident? or would it be bankrupted?

[LiquidTurbo]

you wonder how many of those oil wells have faulty cut off valves.

You can be sure that after this incident, every single ring is working overtime to ensure their safety valves are 100% operational.

[LiquidTurbo]

What I don't understand is that when the Exxon Valdez Tanker capsized, it was on the new 24/7 it was media overload, pictures of birds covered in oil, on a daily basis.

This oil leak might be the largest in history, yet the media is barely touching it?

What a strange shift the world has turned in the last decade.

People don't want to see sad images. They want to keep on driving their car. So, they'll briefly see some images of oils covered in oil.. and go "Oh that's sad.", then wait for engineers/volunteers to clean up this spill, and then down the road another spill happens and the whole thing happens again.

[turb0fr3ak]

sadly the world cannot live without oil right now....but for the past week friends and i have been taking the transit/bike/walk to give awareness to others about the environmental issues in the gulf of Mexico.

[Mr.HappySilp]

sadly the world cannot live without oil right now....but for the past week friends and i have been taking the transit/bike/walk to give awareness to others about the environmental issues in the gulf of Mexico.

good luck with the transit system in vancouver you will quit in 1 week. Is ok if you are going to work on the skytrain during rush hour but for going out it is uesless. Waiting 30mins for a bus? Skytrain having issue every week? yea those are pretty normal in our transit system.

[Minata]

this is the perfect example as to why there is NO justification to offshore drilling. are we going to learn? not necessarily. fucking tragic..

[_Hotsauce_]

You can be sure that after this incident, every single ring is working overtime to ensure their safety valves are 100% operational.

And who do you thinks going to enforce that? Why not just pay off a few high players in the Gov....sure be a hell of alot cheaper of fixing/checking/replacing valves on all of their platforms.

[alwaysideways]

All this happens and still we dont care

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/breakingnews/gulf-oil-spill-wont-change-bc-position-on-offshore-drilling-minister-92692764.html


Tragic :(

[impulse777]

Just reading this article thought I'd post it, Does not sound good I hope he's just being pessimistic...


The original estimate was about 5,000 gallons of oil a day spilling into the ocean. Now they're saying 200,000 gallons a day. That's over a million gallons of crude oil a week!

I'm engineer with 25 years of experience. I've worked on some big projects with big machines. Maybe that's why this mess is so clear to me.

First, the BP platform was drilling for what they call deep oil. They go out where the ocean is about 5,000 feet deep and drill another 30,000 feet into the crust of the earth. This it right on the edge of what human technology can do. Well, this time they hit a pocket of oil at such high pressure that it burst all of their safety valves all the way up to the drilling rig and then caused the rig to explode and sink. Take a moment to grasp that. The pressure behind this oil is so high that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it.

When the rig sank it flipped over and landed on top of the drill hole some 5,000 feet under the ocean.

Now they've got a hole in the ocean floor, 5,000 feet down with a wrecked oil drilling rig sitting on top of it spewing 200,000 [gallons] of oil a day into the ocean. Take a moment and consider that, will you!

First they have to get the oil rig off the hole to get at it in order to try to cap it. Do you know the level of effort it will take to move that wrecked oil rig, sitting under 5,000 feet of water? That operation alone would take years and hundreds of millions to accomplish. Then, how do you cap that hole in the muddy ocean floor? There just is no way. No way.

The only piece of human technology that might address this is a nuclear bomb. I'm not kidding. If they put a nuke down there in the right spot it might seal up the hole. Nothing short of that will work.

If we can't cap that hole that oil is going to destroy the oceans of the world. It only takes one quart of motor oil to make 250,000 gallons of ocean water toxic to wildlife. Are you starting to get the magnitude now?

We're so used to our politicians creating false crises to forward their criminal agendas that we aren't recognizing that we're staring straight into possibly the greatest disaster mankind will ever see. Imagine what happens if that oil keeps flowing until it destroys all life in the oceans of this planet. Who knows how big of a reservoir of oil is down there.

Not to mention that the oceans are critical to maintaining the proper oxygen level in the atmosphere for human life.

We're humped. Unless God "LOL" steps in and fixes this. No human can. You can be sure of that.

[Purely]

Just reading this article thought I'd post it, Does not sound good I hope he's just being pessimistic...


The original estimate was about 5,000 gallons of oil a day spilling into the ocean. Now they're saying 200,000 gallons a day. That's over a million gallons of crude oil a week!

I'm engineer with 25 years of experience. I've worked on some big projects with big machines. Maybe that's why this mess is so clear to me.

First, the BP platform was drilling for what they call deep oil. They go out where the ocean is about 5,000 feet deep and drill another 30,000 feet into the crust of the earth. This it right on the edge of what human technology can do. Well, this time they hit a pocket of oil at such high pressure that it burst all of their safety valves all the way up to the drilling rig and then caused the rig to explode and sink. Take a moment to grasp that. The pressure behind this oil is so high that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it.

When the rig sank it flipped over and landed on top of the drill hole some 5,000 feet under the ocean.

Now they've got a hole in the ocean floor, 5,000 feet down with a wrecked oil drilling rig sitting on top of it spewing 200,000 [gallons] of oil a day into the ocean. Take a moment and consider that, will you!

First they have to get the oil rig off the hole to get at it in order to try to cap it. Do you know the level of effort it will take to move that wrecked oil rig, sitting under 5,000 feet of water? That operation alone would take years and hundreds of millions to accomplish. Then, how do you cap that hole in the muddy ocean floor? There just is no way. No way.

The only piece of human technology that might address this is a nuclear bomb. I'm not kidding. If they put a nuke down there in the right spot it might seal up the hole. Nothing short of that will work.

If we can't cap that hole that oil is going to destroy the oceans of the world. It only takes one quart of motor oil to make 250,000 gallons of ocean water toxic to wildlife. Are you starting to get the magnitude now?

We're so used to our politicians creating false crises to forward their criminal agendas that we aren't recognizing that we're staring straight into possibly the greatest disaster mankind will ever see. Imagine what happens if that oil keeps flowing until it destroys all life in the oceans of this planet. Who knows how big of a reservoir of oil is down there.

Not to mention that the oceans are critical to maintaining the proper oxygen level in the atmosphere for human life.

We're humped. Unless God "LOL" steps in and fixes this. No human can. You can be sure of that.

Only the Nuclear bomb will help..?

[Ch28]

Just reading this article thought I'd post it, Does not sound good I hope he's just being pessimistic...


longassarticle.txt

Link to article?

[orange7]

Just reading this article thought I'd post it, Does not sound good I hope he's just being pessimistic...


The original estimate was about 5,000 gallons of oil a day spilling into the ocean. Now they're saying 200,000 gallons a day. That's over a million gallons of crude oil a week!

I'm engineer with 25 years of experience. I've worked on some big projects with big machines. Maybe that's why this mess is so clear to me.

First, the BP platform was drilling for what they call deep oil. They go out where the ocean is about 5,000 feet deep and drill another 30,000 feet into the crust of the earth. This it right on the edge of what human technology can do. Well, this time they hit a pocket of oil at such high pressure that it burst all of their safety valves all the way up to the drilling rig and then caused the rig to explode and sink. Take a moment to grasp that. The pressure behind this oil is so high that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it.

When the rig sank it flipped over and landed on top of the drill hole some 5,000 feet under the ocean.

Now they've got a hole in the ocean floor, 5,000 feet down with a wrecked oil drilling rig sitting on top of it spewing 200,000 [gallons] of oil a day into the ocean. Take a moment and consider that, will you!

First they have to get the oil rig off the hole to get at it in order to try to cap it. Do you know the level of effort it will take to move that wrecked oil rig, sitting under 5,000 feet of water? That operation alone would take years and hundreds of millions to accomplish. Then, how do you cap that hole in the muddy ocean floor? There just is no way. No way.

The only piece of human technology that might address this is a nuclear bomb. I'm not kidding. If they put a nuke down there in the right spot it might seal up the hole. Nothing short of that will work.

If we can't cap that hole that oil is going to destroy the oceans of the world. It only takes one quart of motor oil to make 250,000 gallons of ocean water toxic to wildlife. Are you starting to get the magnitude now?

We're so used to our politicians creating false crises to forward their criminal agendas that we aren't recognizing that we're staring straight into possibly the greatest disaster mankind will ever see. Imagine what happens if that oil keeps flowing until it destroys all life in the oceans of this planet. Who knows how big of a reservoir of oil is down there.

Not to mention that the oceans are critical to maintaining the proper oxygen level in the atmosphere for human life.

We're humped. Unless God "LOL" steps in and fixes this. No human can. You can be sure of that.

2012

[LiquidTurbo]

2012

:twirleye:

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

Just reading this article thought I'd post it, Does not sound good I hope he's just being pessimistic...


The original estimate was about 5,000 gallons of oil a day spilling into the ocean. Now they're saying 200,000 gallons a day. That's over a million gallons of crude oil a week!

I'm engineer with 25 years of experience. I've worked on some big projects with big machines. Maybe that's why this mess is so clear to me.

First, the BP platform was drilling for what they call deep oil. They go out where the ocean is about 5,000 feet deep and drill another 30,000 feet into the crust of the earth. This it right on the edge of what human technology can do. Well, this time they hit a pocket of oil at such high pressure that it burst all of their safety valves all the way up to the drilling rig and then caused the rig to explode and sink. Take a moment to grasp that. The pressure behind this oil is so high that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it.

When the rig sank it flipped over and landed on top of the drill hole some 5,000 feet under the ocean.

Now they've got a hole in the ocean floor, 5,000 feet down with a wrecked oil drilling rig sitting on top of it spewing 200,000 [gallons] of oil a day into the ocean. Take a moment and consider that, will you!

First they have to get the oil rig off the hole to get at it in order to try to cap it. Do you know the level of effort it will take to move that wrecked oil rig, sitting under 5,000 feet of water? That operation alone would take years and hundreds of millions to accomplish. Then, how do you cap that hole in the muddy ocean floor? There just is no way. No way.

The only piece of human technology that might address this is a nuclear bomb. I'm not kidding. If they put a nuke down there in the right spot it might seal up the hole. Nothing short of that will work.

If we can't cap that hole that oil is going to destroy the oceans of the world. It only takes one quart of motor oil to make 250,000 gallons of ocean water toxic to wildlife. Are you starting to get the magnitude now?

We're so used to our politicians creating false crises to forward their criminal agendas that we aren't recognizing that we're staring straight into possibly the greatest disaster mankind will ever see. Imagine what happens if that oil keeps flowing until it destroys all life in the oceans of this planet. Who knows how big of a reservoir of oil is down there.

Not to mention that the oceans are critical to maintaining the proper oxygen level in the atmosphere for human life.

We're humped. Unless God "LOL" steps in and fixes this. No human can. You can be sure of that.



dude, i hope you are serious.

and if you are, sounds like we are really really screwed!

this shit aint even funny

:cry:

[LiquidTurbo]

Good watch:

301 Moved Permanently

(Bonus is you get to see Bill Nye the Science Guy)

[LiquidTurbo]

And who do you thinks going to enforce that? Why not just pay off a few high players in the Gov....sure be a hell of alot cheaper of fixing/checking/replacing valves on all of their platforms.

How about the notion that if it ever happens to them, they could go through the financial turmoil that BP is dealing with now.

It's cheap insurance.

[noventa]

they should just bomb it so that it can collapse

[LiquidTurbo]

they should just bomb it so that it can collapse

Do you even know what's going on?

[unit]

Just reading this article thought I'd post it, Does not sound good I hope he's just being pessimistic...


The original estimate was about 5,000 gallons of oil a day spilling into the ocean. Now they're saying 200,000 gallons a day. That's over a million gallons of crude oil a week!

I'm engineer with 25 years of experience. I've worked on some big projects with big machines. Maybe that's why this mess is so clear to me.

First, the BP platform was drilling for what they call deep oil. They go out where the ocean is about 5,000 feet deep and drill another 30,000 feet into the crust of the earth. This it right on the edge of what human technology can do. Well, this time they hit a pocket of oil at such high pressure that it burst all of their safety valves all the way up to the drilling rig and then caused the rig to explode and sink. Take a moment to grasp that. The pressure behind this oil is so high that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it.

When the rig sank it flipped over and landed on top of the drill hole some 5,000 feet under the ocean.

Now they've got a hole in the ocean floor, 5,000 feet down with a wrecked oil drilling rig sitting on top of it spewing 200,000 [gallons] of oil a day into the ocean. Take a moment and consider that, will you!

First they have to get the oil rig off the hole to get at it in order to try to cap it. Do you know the level of effort it will take to move that wrecked oil rig, sitting under 5,000 feet of water? That operation alone would take years and hundreds of millions to accomplish. Then, how do you cap that hole in the muddy ocean floor? There just is no way. No way.

The only piece of human technology that might address this is a nuclear bomb. I'm not kidding. If they put a nuke down there in the right spot it might seal up the hole. Nothing short of that will work.

If we can't cap that hole that oil is going to destroy the oceans of the world. It only takes one quart of motor oil to make 250,000 gallons of ocean water toxic to wildlife. Are you starting to get the magnitude now?

We're so used to our politicians creating false crises to forward their criminal agendas that we aren't recognizing that we're staring straight into possibly the greatest disaster mankind will ever see. Imagine what happens if that oil keeps flowing until it destroys all life in the oceans of this planet. Who knows how big of a reservoir of oil is down there.

Not to mention that the oceans are critical to maintaining the proper oxygen level in the atmosphere for human life.

We're humped. Unless God "LOL" steps in and fixes this. No human can. You can be sure of that.

they never said 5000 gallons a day, they said 5000 barrels a day.
5000 barrels = 155,000 gallons. i think you're confused.

[Great68]

When the rig sank it flipped over and landed on top of the drill hole some 5,000 feet under the ocean.



No, that's incorrect. The rig sank nowhere near the well head.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/BP_oil_containment_domes.jpg

[Aleks]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIg6ys5aTPA

[impulse777]

Unit I'm not confused maybe the author of the article is or maybe you are if you missed the first sentence.

Just reading this article thought I'd post it, Does not sound good I hope he's just being pessimistic

ch28 I can't find the article atm.

[Great68]

BP admits the oil gusher is bigger than first estimated:

Washington (CNN) -- BP acknowledged Thursday that the gusher of oil pouring from its damaged Gulf of Mexico well is bigger than estimated to date, as new video showed a cloud of crude billowing around its undersea siphon.

Company spokesman Mark Proegler said Thursday that the siphon is now drawing about 5,000 barrels (210,000 gallons) a day up to a ship on the surface. That's as much as government and company officials had estimated the spill was pouring into the Gulf every day for a month. Proegler declined to estimate how much more oil was escaping.

BP America Chairman Lamar McKay said Wednesday the figure used by the oil spill response team had a degree of uncertainty built into it. But figures by independent researchers have run up to many times higher: Steve Wereley, a professor of mechanical engineering at Purdue University, told CNN's "American Morning" that the spill could be as big as 20,000 to 100,000 barrels a day.
And members of Congress released video from the company that showed much more oil pouring out of the damaged well than the siphon was capturing.

"Most of the oil is gushing like mad out there, with just a little bit being siphoned off, which tells you there is a much greater volume than BP said," California Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer, the chairwoman of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, said Thursday.

And Rep. Ed Markey, who leads a House subcommittee investigating the disaster, told reporters, "I think now we are beginning to understand that we cannot trust BP."

More:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/20/gulf.oil.spill/index.html?hpt=T2




Well NO FUCKING SHIT. Anyone who believes that BP would be truthful to the public is an idiot.

[Ducdesmo]

Im wondering that despite this mess, why is the price of oil sliding on daily basis?
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[murd0c]

Im wondering that despite this mess, why is the price of oil sliding on daily basis?
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cause it's stock piling right now so it goes down. With summer around the corner the price will go up again with more people driving and using more up.



Seeing shit like this in the ocean is beyond sick, what a lot of people don't realize if we destroy the ocean we are dead as well. Earth wouldn't be able to survive with out it and of course neither would we.

[Hondaracer]

Rush limbaugh (sp?) says the ocean will fix itself and disapate the oil overtime, as oil naturely leaks oil into the ocean

[murd0c]

Rush limbaugh (sp?) says the ocean will fix itself and disapate the oil overtime, as oil naturely leaks oil into the ocean

OVERTIME is the key word. Where in the ocean does 200k litres a day? what Limbaugh seems to be doing to trying to deflect the serious of the spill.

[Ducdesmo]

Rush limbaugh (sp?) says the ocean will fix itself and disapate the oil overtime, as oil naturely leaks oil into the ocean

Who is this guy and how is he credible?
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[_Hotsauce_]

The Explosion That Caused the Gulf Oil Spill

http://gizmodo.com/5544123/the-explosion-that-caused-the-gulf-oil-spill

[quasi]

The Explosion That Caused the Gulf Oil Spill

http://gizmodo.com/5544123/the-explosion-that-caused-the-gulf-oil-spill

Two comments on that video made me laugh.

Those fire boats look like the equivalent of pissing on a volcano.

and

Oil is natural, part of the earth.

How much harm could it possibly do?


The situation is pretty fucked up. Hopefully they can find a way to plug that leak sooner then later.

[mr_chin]

With that much pressure coming out of a hole it'll be pretty hard to close it. They need to redirect those oil somewhere else or it'll soon fill the ocean with oil. Who knows how much is under there. Either that or bomb the hole so that the side collapse in and shuts it.

So much shit is happening as we get closer to 2012. :O
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[Great68]

Best case scenario for stopping the leak: Sunday when they try pumping drilling "mud" into the pipe

Worst case scenario for stopping the leak: August, when they have the relief well drilled.

[orange7]

so how is the progress coming along?

still leaking?

[cressydrift]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXTcM2ntlkM

Yep

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

update?

[orange7]

not sure, but i'm pretty sure the oil has reached the land.

[Harvey Specter]

Ron Paul's idiot son Rand, who made comments about the civil rights bill a couple days, had this to say about BP:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLhyPnZgKgg

Shocked that people like this could be up for office.

[cressydrift]

You can watch live if you like of the spill,

WKRG.com Live Oil Spill Cam on USTREAM: Watch a live Video feed of the 1.1 million plus gallons of oil gushing into the Gulf of Mexico WKRG.com http://www....@@AMEPARAM@@http://www.ustream.tv/channel/1422836@@AMEPARAM@@1422836

[trip]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CsxaJ4nBw8&feature=player_embedded

[Redlines_Daily]

^ "..you got a woman with a baby in the oven and bills due.." 1:48 :confused:

They must be REALLY suffering if they going to eat their baby

[sunny_j]

U.S. will "push" out BP if spill response falls short
HOUSTON (Reuters) – The U.S. government will move aside BP from the operation to try to halt the Gulf of Mexico oil spill if it decides the company is not performing as required in its response to the well leak, U.S. Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said on Sunday.

"I am angry and I am frustrated that BP has been unable to stop this oil from leaking and to stop the pollution from spreading," Salazar told reporters after visiting BP's U.S. headquarters in Houston.

"We are 33 days into this effort and deadline after deadline has been missed," Salazar added, referring to the failure of containment efforts attempted so far by London-based BP to control the gushing undersea well one mile down on the ocean floor.

President Barack Obama's administration is facing growing public and political pressure to take full charge of the oil spill containment operation as criticism against BP grows.

The spill is threatening an ecological and economic disaster along the U.S. Gulf Coast.

"If we find they're not doing what they're supposed to be doing, we'll push them out of the way appropriately," Salazar said, but he did not specify at what point this would occur or what might be the trigger for it.

"This is an existential crisis for one of the world's largest companies," he said, in a reference to the billions of dollars of cleanup and damages costs that BP faces.

Salazar also said BP had agreed to pay cleanup costs beyond the $75 million liability limit set by current U.S. law.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100523/ts_nm/us_oil_rig_salazar

i think its time for someone else to step in.

[orange7]

they should just let China step in.

They would have the job done over night. (/sarcasm)

[91LS-VTak]

they should just let China step in.

They would have the job done over night. (/sarcasm)

Why, do they need a railroad built?

[goo3]

there's plenty of time to point fingers after they plug the hole

[asian_speedster]

Oil is all over the shoreline now,

New pictures
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/05/oil_reaches_louisiana_shores.html

[orange7]

Oil is all over the shoreline now,

New pictures
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/05/oil_reaches_louisiana_shores.html


dam.. . I wish this mess would just end soon

[trd2343]

Is there any website with good visuals that explains what's going on? I've read a couple of articles and can't seem to visualize what's going on other than knowing that oil is leaking from a pipe.

[Ducdesmo]

Oil is all over the shoreline now,

New pictures
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/05/oil_reaches_louisiana_shores.html

Those photos are amazing.

[Not really racist!]

man, this thing is ugly...

[- kT]

^ "..you got a woman with a baby in the oven and bills due.." 1:48 :confused:

They must be REALLY suffering if they going to eat their baby

"in the oven" is slang for saying that somebody has a baby on the way

[LiquidTurbo]

Oil is all over the shoreline now,

New pictures
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/05/oil_reaches_louisiana_shores.html

Fantastic pics!

[mr_chin]

This is retarded. Until they get their heads out of how much money they're losing, how they can reduce as much profit loss as possible, oil is just gonna keep leaking. They have to understand that this is a global problem. It is our drinking water and our nature that is in jeopardy here.
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[Teriyaki]

Those photos were great. Its so sad how we still can't contain our own mess.

[Noizz]

U.S. will "push" out BP if spill response falls short

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100523/ts_nm/us_oil_rig_salazar

i think its time for someone else to step in.

I think someone should have stepped in when the 2nd attempt failed. This is ridiculous, the government shouldn't have to baby corporations but this is such a huge environmental disaster. The government is just as responsible in times of crisis.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

my god the shoreline is totally messed up, i cant believe it has been leaking for over a month now!!

[NashMan]

i think they should be shut down after this maybe even so set to jail

[Gt-R R34]

sadly....money talks. Once they pay up, clean up. Back to business they go, and cost, deferred to it's customers.

[LiquidTurbo]

^

Wonder how the company will turn out once this is over. Their name is tarnished forever.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

i think they should be shut down after this maybe even so set to jail

they should

but i doubt it

[Manic!]

i think they should be shut down after this maybe even so set to jail

Yep they should be shut own and 100's of thousands of people should lose there jobs.

[cressydrift]

They are planning to put concrete in the pipe tomorrow. You can watch it live to see if it works.

[LiquidTurbo]

^ You can? I thought that they were going to cut the live stream for the procedure? (Which made a lot of people angry..

[cressydrift]

Global news said they were going to leave it up, don't know how accurate they are?

[LiquidTurbo]

Oh yes, they changed their position on it..

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/25/gulf.oil.spill/index.html?hpt=T2

There's actually a risk this procedure will complicate the situation and possibly worsen the leak.

[cressydrift]

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream3


Incase people are lazy

[HonestTea]

When are they gonna start filling the leak? Right now?

[NashMan]

i saw fish swim into the oil then gtfo there as well

[murd0c]

If you go to www.bp.com you can click on a watch live leak. Nothing much for work wise is going on so far and I have been watching it the past hour
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[Greenstoner]

http://bp.concerts.com/gom/kentwells_update24052010.htm

VP from BP

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

If you go to www.bp.com you can click on a watch live leak. Nothing much for work wise is going on so far and I have been watching it the past hour
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you actually stare at the oil leak for one hour?

[murd0c]

you actually stare at the oil leak for one hour?

On and off, I'm at work and have nothing better to do.
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[Mugen EvOlutioN]

:thumbsup: i like the sound of that lol

[LiquidTurbo]

7pm tonight.

[quasi]

I think whats more alarming is this is page 15 news in the paper. IMO it's kind of a big deal, more relevant then the Richmond council rent a bike network or the Lions Gate becoming a National shrine.

[LiquidTurbo]

Everyone knows about it. No one really cares about it. Its human nature to not care till it directly affects them. We live far far away from the spill, so we'd rather not look at it - afterall, what good does it do?

[quasi]

Everyone knows about it. No one really cares about it. Its human nature to not care till it directly affects them. We live far far away from the spill, so we'd rather not look at it - afterall, what good does it do?

You could say that about most the news, what in the paper really effects us directly? Some junkie on the front page got murdered, why do I care I don't know her? Some Bollywood director got his money, phones and sunglasses stolen. Again, I could careless.

This issue effects us all on a global scale. I'm not saying it should be front page but you have to really dig to find any info.

[LiquidTurbo]

^

I don't disagree with you, just saying the reality of the situation. That being said, I am surprised also it isn't more of a prominent news stories, knowing all the treehuggers that live in Vancouver would probably want to follow the story quite closely..

[murd0c]

They are trying to plug it right now so there's a whole lot of action(well more then before lol)
Trying to pump in thousand of lbs of deep drilling mud and then concrete.
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[Not really racist!]

hmmmmmmmmmm

did they fill it already? lol

[Great68]

hmmmmmmmmmm

did they fill it already? lol

Uh, it's a 3 mile long well. It takes a bit longer than a couple of hours to fill it up.

They won't know for another 24 hours if they're going to be successful, it will probably take 2 whole weeks before the well kill is complete.

[murd0c]

it says below the link it will take 2 days to know how the plug worked.

[murd0c]

this is on the BP site below the live link

Throughout the extended top kill procedure – which may take up to two days to complete - very significant changes in the appearance of the flows at the seabed may be expected. These will not provide a reliable indicator of the overall progress, or success or failure, of the top kill operation as a whole. BP will report on the progress of the operation as appropriate and on its outcome when complete.

[keitaro]

From Breaking News Twitter Feed
BP exec says it appears only drilling mud flowing from well, not oil, six hours into 'top kill' effort.

[murd0c]

i don't believe it until I see it.

Here's the link again so ya dont need to go back a page.

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

[sunny_j]

i don't believe it until I see it.

Here's the link again so ya dont need to go back a page.

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

there is 3 different color liquids coming out right now:\

[Not really racist!]

is it just me or does it seem like theres more gushing out than there was like a couple hours ago.. well at the place where the camera is showing at least

[sunny_j]

is it just me or does it seem like theres more gushing out than there was like a couple hours ago.. well at the place where the camera is showing at least

it does seem like more now

[impulse777]

LiveLeak.com - 1979 Gulf Oil Leak

This is shocking. :mad:

Same thing happens 31 years ago in 200 ft of water and it takes 9 months to drill relief wells. Now it's at a depth of 5000ft. What are the worst case scenarios here say oil leaks for a year then what.

[Ch28]

I'd say we're f'd if the oil leaks for a year. The oil has been leaking for a month and look at the damage it has already caused. Give it another 11 months and fuuuu

[sunny_j]

Obama is on cnn having a press conference

[Greenstoner]

this is G G

[sunny_j]

this is G G

G G?

[freakshow]

GG stands for "we're screwed"

[sunny_j]

new estimate is 12-19000 barrels a day
so far the top kill hasnt worked according to cnn

in 1989 exxon valdez spilled 262,000 barrels in total

[LiquidTurbo]

LiveLeak.com - 1979 Gulf Oil Leak (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=127_1274931222)

This is shocking. :mad:

Same thing happens 31 years ago in 200 ft of water and it takes 9 months to drill relief wells. Now it's at a depth of 5000ft. What are the worst case scenarios here say oil leaks for a year then what.

Haha, omg. That's crazy. Since this top-kill isn't looking promising.. we'll have to wait till the relief wells are drilled?

:facepalm:

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

GG stands for "we're screwed"

says who

[TylerTL]

LiveLeak.com - 1979 Gulf Oil Leak (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=127_1274931222)

This is shocking. :mad:

Same thing happens 31 years ago in 200 ft of water and it takes 9 months to drill relief wells. Now it's at a depth of 5000ft. What are the worst case scenarios here say oil leaks for a year then what.

WOW this vid really puts things into perspective. Her last statement is what really pisses me off, they've advanced the tech to drill deeper but there has been absolutely no advancement in dealing with a leak. They've only made drilling riskier by drilling deeper but have no new strategies to deal with a leak!

[Great68]

so far the top kill hasnt worked according to cnn



When did they say that?

So far everything I have read from CNN says that it's actually working according to plan.

""The top kill procedure is going as planned, and it is moving along as everyone had hoped," said U.S. Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, who is leading the government's response to the oil spill.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

I'd say we're f'd if the oil leaks for a year. The oil has been leaking for a month and look at the damage it has already caused. Give it another 11 months and fuuuu

just in time for 2012?


perfecto

[sunny_j]

When did they say that?

So far everything I have read from CNN says that it's actually working according to plan.

""The top kill procedure is going as planned, and it is moving along as everyone had hoped," said U.S. Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, who is leading the government's response to the oil spill.

thats the ticker said when obama was having his press conference. now they are saying it seems to be working

[Phil@rise]

I don't understand how the governments associated or at least the ones giving the licenses and permits can allow drilling at such depths. When the shit hits the fan its nearly impossible to keep it localized.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

^

its one of those loop holes, until shit hit the fan, ppl dont realize how serious it is. Unfortunately this time it blew way out of proportion that no human can contain. really unfortunate....



one way or the other we are fucking it up, burning those crude oil, causing a shit load of smoke cant be good either for the o-zone

[LiquidTurbo]

I don't understand how the governments associated or at least the ones giving the licenses and permits can allow drilling at such depths. When the shit hits the fan its nearly impossible to keep it localized.

Hindsight is 20/20 ain't it!

[LiquidTurbo]

http://i.imgur.com/P0qkj.jpg

[jlim85]

what the dispersants are doing under water :(

http://blueplanetalmanac.wordpress.com/2010/05/25/5-25-10-underwater-footage-in-the-gulf-sam-champion-and-phillipe-cousteau/

[Liquid_o2]

Everyone talks about BP all the time, but I don't hear much discussion of Transocean and how they play into this disaster. They owned and operated the rig that went down. What role do they have in this cleanup effort, if any?

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

they operate the plant, and they failed at maintaining the fail safe valve

[Great68]

Everyone talks about BP all the time, but I don't hear much discussion of Transocean and how they play into this disaster. They owned and operated the rig that went down. What role do they have in this cleanup effort, if any?

BP owns the well,and therefore is the one charged with the cleanup.

Transocean is BP's subcontractor, it's BP's responsibility to ensure it's subcontractors are operating to spec. BP could go after Transocean after the fact, but right now this is BP's baby

Also, there were testimonials from survivors that a transocean and BP official were in an argument about the process they were going to use to cement the well.

They're going to play the blame game for a long time after this is over.

[sunny_j]

top kill has been temporary suspended

[TOPEC]

Everyone talks about BP all the time, but I don't hear much discussion of Transocean and how they play into this disaster. They owned and operated the rig that went down. What role do they have in this cleanup effort, if any?

watch the show "60 minutes" that was posted earlier, and u'll understand why this is Bp's fault, and not transocean's. BP was pushing the transocean crew harder and harder because it was costing BP way too much money than originally planned to drill this well, thus BP flew people onto tranocean's rig and lay the smack down on how to do shit the BP way, and now shit hits the fan, BP points fingers at transocean.

[sunny_j]

on a side note the Chevron's Burnaby refinery has been seeping oil, gas and diesel fuel into the Burrard Inlet since at least April 21

http://www.vancouversun.com/Historic+leak+from+Chevron+Burnaby+refinery+seepin g+into+Burrard+Inlet/3078018/story.html

[Hondaracer]

All BP does is talk bullshit too, obviously all these VP's are gonna talk about the best case scenario when in fact it's probably 100 times worse then they report and they know it.
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[orange7]

on a side note the Chevron's Burnaby refinery has been seeping oil, gas and diesel fuel into the Burrard Inlet since at least April 21

http://www.vancouversun.com/Historic+leak+from+Chevron+Burnaby+refinery+seepin g+into+Burrard+Inlet/3078018/story.html

wow...

[Great68]

on a side note the Chevron's Burnaby refinery has been seeping oil, gas and diesel fuel into the Burrard Inlet since at least April 21

http://www.vancouversun.com/Historic+leak+from+Chevron+Burnaby+refinery+seepin g+into+Burrard+Inlet/3078018/story.html

I bet more oil, gas, and diesel fuel gets out of motorboats and ships in burrard inlet than that Chevron refinery...

[murd0c]

on a side note the Chevron's Burnaby refinery has been seeping oil, gas and diesel fuel into the Burrard Inlet since at least April 21

http://www.vancouversun.com/Historic+leak+from+Chevron+Burnaby+refinery+seepin g+into+Burrard+Inlet/3078018/story.html

not since April21 thats when it happened. I used to work at the loading rack and they are VERY VERY environmentally conscious. They are just required to notify the government when it happens

[sunny_j]

i don't believe it until I see it.

Here's the link again so ya dont need to go back a page.

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

bump

[murd0c]

is it more or does it look worse then before?

[sunny_j]

it is more. earlier it was 3 gushers now it looks like 5.


also read that BP took a 16 hour break from top kill and never told anyone till recently

[LiquidTurbo]

Whats interesting is that BP will have to pay taxes on the amount of oil that has leaked.. (it's considered profit once it's come out of the ground..)which is probably one of their motivations in lying about the numbers.

[sunny_j]

Whats interesting is that BP will have to pay taxes on the amount of oil that has leaked.. (it's considered profit once it's come out of the ground..)which is probably one of their motivations in lying about the numbers.

interesting. i never knew that.

[murd0c]

Whats interesting is that BP will have to pay taxes on the amount of oil that has leaked.. (it's considered profit once it's come out of the ground..)which is probably one of their motivations in lying about the numbers.

so they are saying could be a max of 3.8mill litres a day right now. Thats a whole lotta tax lol

[StaxBundlez]

OBAMA:

"JUST PLUG THE DAMN HOLE!"


lol

[orange7]

I wish I could be down there and help with the clean-up.

The only thing that is stopping me is the cost of the flight, rent, food, etc.

[Anjew]

ill equip you might end up like those sick fishermen

[Harvey Specter]

The total financial cost of the response in the five weeks since a rig explosion killed 11 workers and unleashed the oil from a well head one mile down now stands at $930 million, up from a $760 million estimate on May 24, BP said.

Wow @ $930 million just for the clean up. Imagine the payouts for the massive lawsuits in the coming months and years and possible lawsuits from the various States and residents against the EPA for dumping millions of gallons of untested toxic chemicals.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

I wish I could be down there and help with the clean-up.

The only thing that is stopping me is the cost of the flight, rent, food, etc.

u need a donation from RS fellows to save up ur flight ticket

[Great68]

MSNBC is reporting that they managed to stop the flow of oil from the well with the drilling mud. Now they have to pump it full of cement.

They're not out of the woods yet.

"WASHINGTON - The flow of oil from the broken well in the Gulf of Mexico has stopped, the Coast Guard Admiral Thad Allen claimed Friday, but BP warned it would be a further 48 hours before it was known whether the "top kill" procedure had been successful.

"They have been able to stop the hydrocarbons from coming up the wellbore," Allen said on ABC's Good Morning America. "I think the real challenge today is going to be sustain the mud on top of the hydrocarbons and reduce the pressure to the point where they could actually put a cement plug in."


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37394541/ns/gulf_oil_spill/

[Gumby]

*Fingers crossed*

[Vinny G]

I wish I could be down there and help with the clean-up.

The only thing that is stopping me is the cost of the flight, rent, food, etc.

Yeah the only thing stopping me from going to Africa and saving the children from aids and famine is the cost of flight, rent, food, etc.

[LiquidTurbo]

^

Any excuse will do!

[Rotary_Rage]

My Cousin is a Oil driller in Northern Alberta. He said the only way that they will be able to stop it is to diagonally drill into the existing pipe and attempt to block or redirect the oil flow

He also mentioned that anyone that finds out how to stop it will be an instant Billionaire. His crew put in a multi billion dollar quote to drill over a period of 8 months.

[TomBox_N]

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wow. I sure hope wutever solution they have worked. It's gonna take decades to clean up. Question tho. Oil floats on water, so bottom dwellers will be ok right?

[orange7]

Yeah the only thing stopping me from going to Africa and saving the children from aids and famine is the cost of flight, rent, food, etc.

really?

I wouldn't want to go there cause it's a shitty place to stay or at least that is what I've learned from internet.

[trip]

apparently there was some oil raining down in a part of florida due to this. nuts

[_Hotsauce_]

Please watch this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHmhxpQEGPo&feature=player_embedded#!

[Qmx323]

I shaved my head and donated my hair to this organization.

http://www.matteroftrust.org/

i needed a haircut anyways (and im cheap LOL)

[ASG111]

BP should hire this guy for their PR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-QNAwUdHUQ

[NashMan]

still seems to be leaking to me

[Alphamale]

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wow. I sure hope wutever solution they have worked. It's gonna take decades to clean up. Question tho. Oil floats on water, so bottom dwellers will be ok right?

It is an entire ecosystem that is affected. Nothing goes unscathed.

[LiquidTurbo]

Startin' to see the effects.

http://i.imgur.com/3JFae.jpg

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

^


wow wtf is tat

[murd0c]

^


wow wtf is tat

that my friend looks like a dolphin :(

[quasi]

Yup. its bloated like fuck to,the gasses inside pushing its guts out.

[Mananetwork]

I don't understand how we haven't figured out a better way of moving oil and/ or preventing this shit from happening yet.. We're killing ourselves with oil, plastic and greed.

Are we going to learn from this.. fuck no. Was it worth the risk to make the money, hell ya. I hope the next wave of young people are smarter and not money driven!

[LiquidTurbo]

Top Kill failed.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/29/us.gulf.oil.spill/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

[1exotic]

Just nuke that shit...

[Phil@rise]

Hindsight is 20/20 ain't it!

Hindsight is no excuse for this kind of shit EVERYTHING fails at some point and then what. Do they hope for "divine intervention".
I just think its stupid that our governments locally and globally that have so many energy alternatives at their fingertips don't switch up to one more responsible. Sustainability isn't even an issue its just plain old responsibility.
Our governments are more addicted to oil (Read revenue) then us consumers are. we are just the sheep following the herd and using whats given to us. If thats gas and diesel then so be it but there is no reason why it cant be something responsible.
I for one would love to see a corn oil spill in Saskatchewan on the news then another tanker runs aground or oil rig explodes off the coast of......

[Not really racist!]

i don't believe it until I see it.

Here's the link again so ya dont need to go back a page.

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

just for the lazy people :p

[synchrocone]

Can they build some kind of sarcophagus? Maybe with some kinda
'removable' top? Man this is really hard to watch.
Goodluck to the engineer's next idea. Deepest prayers go out to
a working solution.
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[sunny_j]

i think they are cleaning the ROV

[LiquidTurbo]

The only sure fire solution is the relief well, but thats about 3 months away.

[Noir]

Deleted: Wrong thread

[TomBox_N]

I seriously doubt BP is actually making their best effort in solving this problem. Accountants r counting pennies and try to use as little money as possible. And at the end it cost them WAY more than it should have been. I thot Obama said they'r taking over if BP continues to fail. It's time for someone else to take charge. Money shouldn't even be an issue anymore. If we dun fix it, everbody is fucked.
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[SpartanAir]

This is what I don't understand. This is a problem that doesn't just affect the US, but that whole part of the world...the oil will spread for thousands of miles.

If they REALLY wanted to stop it, they would. Put it this way: if aliens came to earth and started attacking the planet, every country would drop everything, pitch in and figure out how to get rid of the aliens.

This spill is becoming a HUGE environmental risk. The pic of the dolphin is ONE dolphin that they found...there are millions of lifeforms dying everyday in the gulf, and because we can't see it, it's like it doesn't matter as much. It's true we still have much to learn about the ocean, but we do know how VITAL it is to the survival of Earth. If other countries realized how big of an issue this is, they would pitch in to solve it.

[- kT]

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wow. I sure hope wutever solution they have worked. It's gonna take decades to clean up. Question tho. Oil floats on water, so bottom dwellers will be ok right?

the animals that are deep enough would probably get off without any harm (i'm just assuming)

but the damage that the oil is doing isn't only screwing the animals on the surface for sure. when you put cooking oil in a pot, most of it stays on the surface until the water churns a bit and then it starts spreading all around. i'm guessing it's the same thing with regular oil, and that the animals up to mid ocean depth are getting harmed too

[murd0c]

the animals that are deep enough would probably get off without any harm (i'm just assuming)

but the damage that the oil is doing isn't only screwing the animals on the surface for sure. when you put cooking oil in a pot, most of it stays on the surface until the water churns a bit and then it starts spreading all around. i'm guessing it's the same thing with regular oil, and that the animals up to mid ocean depth are getting harmed too

yes its deep and there might not be animals at that depth but the oil rises and destroys everything. I just hope this get's stopped before a big hurricane. Once that happens it's honestly over and it will get dragged all up the east coast.

Now lobster hot pot for hyde this year if that happens :(

[mr_chin]

i just read on a website of oil spills in history and there are a lot in the past. i just can't believe how much oil is going into our ocean.

[Meowjin]

my kook of a brother is telling me the worst is going to be starving in 3 months and this is part of the end of the world, and the nwo and illuminati mason jews have their hands in this, and we have to get chips in our hands to get food.

I'm not shitting you. He listens to church leaders, and he is so fucking religious it drives me nuts.

Now does anyone have any relevent information on what the oil can do to wildlife in that specific area. The most relevent im finding is the iraqi gulf spill and that itaxa 1 spill in the 80's.

[CorneringArtist]

^ You CAN'T be serious...does your brother wear a tinfoil hat and has hangers on the ceiling of his bedroom too?

[trip]

On May 27th scientists had found a second giant plume deep under the water. The plume is 22 miles long and 6 miles wide.

Today, May 28, the Washington Post is reporting that a third giant underwater plume has been discovered.

[Ducdesmo]

^ just fuking horrible.
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[murd0c]

On May 27th scientists had found a second giant plume deep under the water. The plume is 22 miles long and 6 miles wide.

Today, May 28, the Washington Post is reporting that a third giant underwater plume has been discovered.

Link?
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[Not really racist!]

Link?
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hXrdaztYWC4b-nfTbBOcb6bX0a5gD9FVSOU02

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/28/AR2010052802346.html

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/greenspace/2010/05/scientists-reporting-finding-second-oil-plume-.html

[murd0c]

Thanks for those, now those articles are talking about the length and width of the plumes but what about the depth/thickness of them? The plumes are not flat remember
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[Ch28]

http://i.imgur.com/W1khw.jpg

[goo3]

I seriously doubt BP is actually making their best effort in solving this problem. Accountants r counting pennies and try to use as little money as possible. And at the end it cost them WAY more than it should have been. I thot Obama said they'r taking over if BP continues to fail. It's time for someone else to take charge. Money shouldn't even be an issue anymore. If we dun fix it, everbody is fucked.
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It'll cost them more cleaning the shit up. Banging your fist and demanding someone to fix it is one thing.. coming up with a solution that works is the hard part.

This sucker's gonna leak til they drill that relief well. They don't know how to stop it. It's kinda stupid they're allowed to drill this deep without having good backup plans in place and all tested first.

[BaoXu]

my kook of a brother is telling me the worst is going to be starving in 3 months and this is part of the end of the world, and the nwo and illuminati mason jews have their hands in this, and we have to get chips in our hands to get food.

I'm not shitting you. He listens to church leaders, and he is so fucking religious it drives me nuts.

Now does anyone have any relevent information on what the oil can do to wildlife in that specific area. The most relevent im finding is the iraqi gulf spill and that itaxa 1 spill in the 80's.

they talk about this too in Greek Orthodox churches too??:confused:

[cressydrift]

They are on to another plan which involves a special cap. I swear they must be paying these guys millions.

My idea is to use a tapered drill and force fit that sonnnnnn bitch. I should be on there team.

Anyone who is getting a little down like I was about this... Watch this;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=948Nm34arfA

[bcedhk]

i just read on a website of oil spills in history and there are a lot in the past. i just can't believe how much oil is going into our ocean.

actually, lots of oil gets either spilled or naturally leaks out of the ocean. there are thousands of cracks at the bottom of the ocean floor and leaks constantly occur on a daily base. Only spills from oil rigs cause siginficant impact to humans since is usually close to land.

[StylinRed]

Im wondering why everyone is blaming BP though??

They just leased it from the owners who also run the oil rig Transocean Ltd.

Transocean Ltd. (NYSE: RIG) is the world's largest offshore drilling contractor. The company rents floating mobile drill rigs, along with the equipment and personnel for operations, to oil and gas companies at an average daily rate of US$142,000 (2006). Transocean's day rates extend as high as US$650,000 for its deepwater drillships
from wiki

[Vinny G]

Welcome to 2 pages ago

[Hondaracer]

BP are still the ones who hired them, and BP is still in charge of the overall operation as has been said on previous pages
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[sunny_j]

The hurricane season starts today and runs through to November

[Ducdesmo]

The hurricane season starts today and runs through to November

With 3 to 7 major hurricanes projected for this season, it's going to be a wild ride.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2010/20100527_hurricaneoutlook.html

[penner2k]

http://tv.gawker.com/5551785/how-a-nuke-will-solve-bps-oil-leak-and-maybe-kill-us-all

You know I wasnt so sure about the nuke idea but after watching this video it actually seems like a good idea.

[sunny_j]

i don't believe it until I see it.

Here's the link again so ya dont need to go back a page.

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

their cutting some pipe now

[NashMan]

its kinda scary what there going if it fails ummm wow the flow will be crazy

[danny_d19]

its kinda scary what there going if it fails ummm wow the flow will be crazy
http://www.randomfunnypicture.com/pictures/1871lol_wut.jpg

[q0192837465]

^ lol, I thot u intended to say they'r going nuclear. hahahaha

[murd0c]

There's some interesting cutting of the riser going on right now. I love how they are just dropping the cut off pieces lol
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[NashMan]

i think some thing broke never finshed the big cut

[sunny_j]

WASHINGTON - Preparing the country for the possibility of even worse news, the Obama administration on Sunday warned that BP's next effort to contain the oil spewing from a damaged well in the Gulf could result in a temporary 20 percent increase in the flow.

continued here
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37422583/ns/gulf_oil_spill/


for some reason i dont believe bp claiming on 20% more. i think it will be around 35-50%

[sunny_j]

i think some thing broke never finshed the big cut

something happened right now, there is a shit load more oil coming out now

[penner2k]

wtf.. this doesnt look good

[murd0c]

i don't believe it until I see it.

Here's the link again so ya dont need to go back a page.

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

Damm it does look like a whole lot more is comming out.

[Ducdesmo]

I have a feeling that this leak will go into August before the damn thing is sealed up.

[sunny_j]

I have a feeling that this leak will go into August before the damn thing is sealed up.

they already said it will
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-06-01/bp-seeks-to-divert-oil-flow-until-relief-well-is-done-update1-.html

[EmOne]

http://www.ihasaids.com/upload/data/1275440907.jpg

[EmOne]

http://i.imgur.com/W1khw.jpg

god damn it

[Not really racist!]

fucking a, the next procedure better work..

20% more fucked now

[NashMan]

nothing has happen in hour's i think the stuiped saw broke

[penner2k]

they already said it will
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-06-01/bp-seeks-to-divert-oil-flow-until-relief-well-is-done-update1-.html

That is so dumb. You just know they want to do this so they can still keep getting oil from the well.. I bet there is a way they could have fixed this weeks ago but that would mean they wouldnt be able to get oil from that well anymore..

[quasi]

That is so dumb. You just know they want to do this so they can still keep getting oil from the well.. I bet there is a way they could have fixed this weeks ago but that would mean they wouldnt be able to get oil from that well anymore..


I don't know if I buy that. You would think the short and long term cleanup costs would far exceed any profit they'd make from syphoned oil.

[StylinRed]

^^^^ its a New Oil Deposit they're not going to give it up over a spill that under law they don't have to really pay all that much for (the governments trying to strike down that limited liability law... but we'll see)



and check out these articles

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37073815/ns/business-oil_and_energy/
SAN FRANCISCO - Eight months ago, BP Plc was celebrating the discovery of a massive oil find thanks to the work of Transocean's Deepwater Horizon rig, which had just drilled the oil and gas industry's deepest well.

The Horizon is now a wreck on the seabed, following an explosion three weeks ago that killed 11 people, including nine Transocean employees, and precipitated a massive leak from another well it was drilling for BP.

In both cases, rig contractor Transocean Ltd found itself playing second fiddle to the client...

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-06-01/u-s-asks-court-to-reject-transocean-liability-cap-update1-.html
June 1 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. government asked a federal judge to reject Transocean Ltd.’s bid to use a 159-year-old law to cap its liability at $27 million for environmental claims tied to the Deepwater Horizon oil spill...

http://motherjones.com/blue-marble/2010/05/transocean-needs-boot-too

Obama's Going After BP. What About Transocean?

The Obama administration has been repeating the line about keeping the "boot on the neck" of BP to force the oil giant to take full responsibility for the Gulf disaster. But perhaps more attention needs to be paid to Deepwater Horizon owner Transocean, which has made several attempts evade liability in the wake of the oil spill. First, the company tried to invoke an obscure, 159-year-old maritime law to minimize the amount of money it might have to pay out resulting from the spill. Then it came to light that the company had transferred $1 billion to shareholders on May 14. Senators are growing concerned that the largest offshore drilling company in the world is quietly trying to shirk responsibility for the ongoing spill...


edit: omg i just found out that Halliburton is implicated in this as well.... apparently they were working on the pipes (cementing them or something or other) 20hrs (according to halliburton) prior to the Explosion / Fire... and some people who work on the rig claim that Halliburtons work was insufficient and caused the oil pressure to build up and overload and caused the resulting explosions/fire..

I guess that's why the media is concentrating on BP so much... so that good ol evil Halliburton doesn't get any more mud on its face (considering they're facing bankruptcy)

check out the article... i included the bit about Halliburton spoilered it since its kinda long anyhow:

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/807138--cascade-of-mishaps-caused-oil-spill-chernobyl


A target of the investigation, according to Rep. Ed Markey, who chairs the House energy subcommittee and met with oil company officials last week, is the final cementing job on the well. Four employees of Halliburton — founded by Erle Halliburton in 1924 as the Halliburton Oil Well Cementing Co. — were on Deepwater Horizon. They had overseen the main task of cementing the well just 20 hours before the blowout.

This is done by plunging a slurry of cement down the hollow pipe to the bottom of the well, where the cement passes through a one-way valve, then rises back up through the narrow gap, or annulus, between the steel casing and the rock walls of the hole. This stabilizes the casing in the drill hole and keeps gas and oil from rising through the drill hole to the surface.

Or at least that’s the idea. If something goes awry, such as cracks forming in the cement or the cement failing to set properly, gas bubbles can seep upward, and the pressure can begin to build toward calamitous proportions.

Kenneth Deffeyes, a professor emeritus of geology at Princeton who has studied reports of the blowout, said it’s possible that “the cement job wasn’t heavy enough and the gas bubbled up through it.” But he added another factor could have been a malfunction of the valve, or “shoe,” at the bottom of the well, which could have let gas and oil into the steel casing.

Deepwater Horizon was almost home free after several months of drilling the Macondo field. It’s job is to drill an initial well to find a reservoir, temporarily seal the well, and move on, leaving the oil production to other rigs. Before Deepwater Horizon could leave the site, it had to drop two pre-formed cement plugs into the well. The crew [halliburton] had placed one plug in the well when the blowout occurred.

A petroleum engineer whose name is not public, but who called the Mark Levin radio show in New York and is now represented by New Orleans lawyer Scott Bickford, has given an account of what happened in the final moments before the blowout, according to a report in the New Orleans Times-Picayune.

He said that the heavy drilling mud was pulled from the well and replaced with lighter sea water before the second cement plug was put in place. According to Bickford, this lowered the resistance to the natural pressure of the well, and a bubble of gas surged upward.

“The well kicked, and we took a humongous gas bubble kick up through the well bore,” said the engineer in the call to the radio show. He said he didn’t know whether human negligence played a role in the accident. Geological forces surely did, he said.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

^


thx for the info

[haymura]

This is very sad...

i am no math expert or geophysicist or whatever to calculate how much oil is going to spew out until august but i think its a no brainer that we are looking at a global scale for the duration of 2 months. now i know the whole "2012" cliche has been mentioned numerous times already but what i really want to know is, will this trigger a global disaster or will they be able to contain it somehow (given our technology) and hopefully not turn the whole ocean into black liquid.

[Gumby]

This is fucking ridiculous. One failure after another. Obama's just gonna take more and more shit if he doesn't step in and do something fast.

[StylinRed]

^^^ he should get a sub and park it on top of the leak ;)

[vl_86]

This is fucking ridiculous. One failure after another. Obama's just gonna take more and more shit if he doesn't step in and do something fast.

What do you expect Obama to do? The US government doesn't have any technological expertise like BP does in order to handle this situtation. The ball is pretty much in BP's park when it comes to this mess

[Great68]

What do you expect Obama to do? The US government doesn't have any technological expertise like BP does in order to handle this situtation. The ball is pretty much in BP's park when it comes to this mess

No kidding.

A lot of people think that getting the Military involved will do something.

Sorry, but the Military spends their time developing machines for war, not deep sea well drilling.

[sunny_j]

What do you expect Obama to do? The US government doesn't have any technological expertise like BP does in order to handle this situtation. The ball is pretty much in BP's park when it comes to this mess

obama cant do nothing about the damaged oil well but he can do something about the clean up effort which is a joke.

[Gumby]

What do you expect Obama to do? The US government doesn't have any technological expertise like BP does in order to handle this situtation. The ball is pretty much in BP's park when it comes to this mess
I just don't have much confidence in having BP in charge of stopping the oil leak. I'm no expert either, but I get the feeling that they're trying to plug the leak AND recover oil, and spare expenses wherever possible.

At this point, they should just focus on stopping the leak at all costs!

[sunny_j]

the saw is stuck right now
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/292870

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

obama cant do nothing about the damaged oil well but he can do something about the clean up effort which is a joke.

true that


should focus on it by putting in more effort

[vl_86]

I just don't have much confidence in having BP in charge of stopping the oil leak. I'm no expert either, but I get the feeling that they're trying to plug the leak AND recover oil, and spare expenses wherever possible.

At this point, they should just focus on stopping the leak at all costs!

In my opinion I think BP is trying to use everything in their arsenal to cap the leak, not only is oil leaking out day by day which is devastating to their reputation, but there are criminal charges that could put many of the top execs in jail. Not to mention the US government is pushing to have the fine cap removed which if heaven forbids goes on till August could ruin BP as a company

[penner2k]

No kidding.

A lot of people think that getting the Military involved will do something.

Sorry, but the Military spends their time developing machines for war, not deep sea well drilling.

True the Military spends their time developing machines for war. It just happens that one of the machines of war could actually stop this.