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needless to say this, this fucker is getting flamed around the world...
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The Obama administration has denounced a plan by a Florida pastor to burn copies of the Qur'an on Sept. 11, adding to criticism from the U.S. State Department and the top NATO commander in Afghanistan.
The White House said Tuesday that Terry Jones's threat to burn copies of the Muslim holy book could endanger U.S. troops abroad, echoing similar comments by the State Department and by Gen. David Petraeus.
White House spokesman Robert Gibbs noted that Petraeus had already warned that images of a burning Qur'an would be used by extremists to incite violence in Muslim countries.
"Any time activity like that puts our troops in harm's way would be a concern to this administration," Gibbs told reporters.
At the State Department, spokesman P.J. Crowley took a tougher line, saying the administration hoped Americans would stand up and reject the church's plan to burn copies of the Qur'an to mark the ninth anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. He called the plan "un-American" and "inconsistent" with American values.
Safety of troops 'in jeopardy'
Earlier in the day, Jones, of Gainesville's Dove World Outreach Center, said he considered Petraeus's concerns "very, very serious" but was still "weighing the situation."
"We are definitely weighing the situation," Jones said. "We are weighing the thing that we are about to do, what it could possibly cause, what is our actual message, what are we trying to get across. It's very, very important that America wakes up."
In an email to The Associated Press, Petraeus said "images of the burning of a Qur'an would undoubtedly be used by extremists in Afghanistan — and around the world — to inflame public opinion and incite violence.
"I am very concerned by the potential repercussions of the possible [Qur'an] burning. Even the rumour that it might take place has sparked demonstrations such as the one that took place in Kabul yesterday. Were the actual burning to take place, the safety of our soldiers and civilians would be put in jeopardy and accomplishment of the mission would be made more difficult."
The U.S. Embassy in Afghanistan has also condemned the church's plans.
Canada's Foreign Ministry also put out a statement strongly condemning the plan.
"It is an insult to the Muslim world. It also puts the lives of Canadians in Afghanistan at risk. The burning of the Qu'ran will also give our enemies material for propaganda against allied forces in Afghanistan," the statement said. "To put this in context, Canada is not fighting against Islamic beliefs, we are fighting against the Taliban."
Protests erupt in Kabul, Indonesia
On Monday, hundreds of Afghans demonstrated outside a mosque in Kabul. They burned U.S. flags and an effigy of Jones. The protesters chanted "Death to America," and they briefly threw stones at a passing U.S. military convoy until rally organizers told them to cease.
Demonstrations have also taken place in several cities in Indonesia.
Fifteen people died in riots in Afghanistan in 2005, after Newsweek magazine reported that interrogators at the U.S. detention centre in Guantanamo Bay allegedly flushed a copy of the Qur'an down the toilet in order to provoke inmates to talk. The magazine later retracted its story.
In an article carried Tuesday, the Vatican's newspaper said Christians around the world were protesting the plan to burn the Qur'an.
The headline on the story in L'Osservatore Romano read: "No one burns the Qur'an."
In the article, Archbishop Lawrence John Saldanha of Lahore, Pakistan, described the plan to burn the book as "contrary to the respect owed all religions and against our doctrine and faith."
This kind of crap makes me ashamed to be a christian
I just wish these guys could get shut down, this is very similar to KKK behavior.
Why would it make you feel ashamed? You shouldn't be. A couple of fools don't, cant and never will represent 2 Billion people.
I'm muslim and I find this event pretty funny actually. If I could, Id walk in on them "uh, excuse me, nice fire you got there, I got this corn right here, wondering if I could get it just a little bit toasted"
Besides, they're buying the Quran anyway.. many of them.
Theres even a 0.001% chance that some of the money will end up supporting the terrorists anyway.
And a 100% chance that they're supporting the building of the NY mosque.
See, these people aren't that bad, give them credit.
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It's ironic (and moronic) that Americans (in this case, Christians) are bashing the building of the Mosque in the name of Patriotism, when a big reason why people left England was for religious freedom.
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He's going to be a dick, but he has every right. If I recall, draw Mohammad day in May was on a far greater scale. That's what make freedom of speech and living in the western world so great. Violence in response to someone being a dick like this is lunacy (especially if on the other side of the planet). In fact I'd bet any violence would be towards people who have absolutely nothing to do with this guy.
I am unabashedly anti-Islam, but not anti-Muslim. Likewise with other religions though to a lesser degree. Most have progressed to allow more fucking reality and goodness into their world. Science, human rights, sexual equality, freedom of choice, things that advance civilization and pull us from the dark ages.
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stupid news wants to get reactions out of people. this guy pastors a church of just 50 people or less.
he has no clout. the news blew this out of proportion
he isn't the only one calling for the burning though
there's going to be major rallies and guest speakers throughout the states and at the sight of the WTC girt wilders a hate speech monger who's been banned in the UK is going to be in NY spouting his filth (he's a dutch politician too)
what's going on in America lately is very shocking and scary like something out of some sci-fi movie; these Islamaphobes have already torched a Mosque that's being built in the states
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I am unabashedly anti-Islam, but not anti-Muslim. Likewise with other religions though to a lesser degree. Most have progressed to allow more fucking reality and goodness into their world. Science, human rights, sexual equality, freedom of choice, things that advance civilization and pull us from the dark ages.
Ignorance is bliss. most of these anti-islamers like to mix their intelligence with assumptions or mere base level examples and think they have a good understanding and hold on the situation to perpetuate their hate but they completely ignore, or even find accepting, examples from the non-arab/islamic world (i say arab because 99.9% of these islamaphobes cite their arab crazy counterparts instead of the rest of the muslim world which far outnumber the arab); it's like that guy in the 2nd video of yours he's always releasing videos trying to speak in a british accent and sound intelligent about his topics but he also ignores facts (intentionally im sure as i agree he doesnt sound like an idiot) to perpetuate his stance and the only supporters he garners are the ignorant or like minded deceptive, disingenuous people
There's a hilarious video on youtube about 2 hicks going to burn a quran but the 1 guy who's going to buy it buys crayons
and then they go to a mosque and get a quran and are like "wow there's great stories of moses n jesus in here" etc
bah i can't find it or id share its hilarious
what's going on in America lately is very shocking and scary like something out of some sci-fi movie; these Islamaphobes have already torched a Mosque that's being built in the states
That is sick, and I agree that it is shocking. Hateful blind discrimination and aggression like that has no place in our society.
The rest of your post had absolutely no substance.
They have every right to burn the Koran just like like the people in New york have every right to build a mosque. I don't see the big deal in burning a book because it's just a vessel that contains a message. Burn all the books you want the message won't change. Muslims have also blown up mosques of other sects and I bet some korans were burned then. People eare just making a big deal out of nothing.
He's going to be a dick, but he has every right. If I recall, draw Mohammad day in May was on a far greater scale. That's what make freedom of speech and living in the western world so great.
Just because you're allowed to be a dumbass doesn't mean you should be one. Exercise that freedom of speech and do something productive. Otherwise, you're just dead weight abusing you're privilege.
Yeah but come one, 2010 needs a new joe the plumber.
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So the Pastor says he's not going to burn them anymore
the Pastor says the Imam says he's moving the Mosque (news doesnt really believe him thinks he's just a publicity whore)
no word from the Imam
Donald Trump says he'll pay 25% above the market price for the building of the Cultural Centre will be if the Imam moves the Centre 3 more Blocks down the street... (but the developer has said in the past that they've been offered 3x the purchase price so hmm and they said the Centre is NOT being moved)
why shouldn't the pastor be allowed to burn the koran?
the koran is the same as any other piece of paper. the fact that people are getting pissed off about burning pieces of paper, and drawing certain people in cartoons tells me alot about them.
tasteless perhaps, but he has every right do do this.
my belief is that if you wanna dish it, you gotta take it too. as long as he's okay with the inevitable death threats and attempts on life that comes with the territory, all the power to him
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