[PK6o4*]

edit wrong thread

[strykn]

OLD FORMULA UNOPENED 1MR FOR SALE
OLD FORMULA RAZOR8 TUB ( 4 SCOOPS USED) FOR SALE

PM@!

[strykn]

edit: double post fail :okay:

[XplicitLuder]

dam! i woulda bought the 1MR haha, i JUST went n picked up by Jack3d , gonna give this a try will let you guys know how i like it :D

[XplicitLuder]

took jack3d today for the first time, only one scoop. But good god, that was the best workout i had! i felt so concentrated

[chin3se604]

lucky you ... i had to take 3 scoops of jack3d to feel something

right now taking razor 8 1/2 scoop

don't really feel anything ( tingles, jitters, etc ) and no crash

but it helps me focus on my last few reps

[XplicitLuder]

i'm just doing as it says, one scoop for the first 3 times, on the 4th one ill prob do 2 until i dont feel anymore and ill go up to 3 after that , once im done this though, ima give assault a try

[Stealthy]

When you take pwo's are you guys taking it on an empty stomach?
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[JSilver]

I prefer empty. Kicks in instantly as drive to my gym.

[hal0g0dv2]

More or less hour or 1.5 after my last snack
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[Stealthy]

I prefer empty. Kicks in instantly as drive to my gym.

More or less hour or 1.5 after my last snack
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Ill keep this in mind next time because I had a light snack and then drank R8, felt like it didn't kick in as I'd expect it. 1 full cup. Still had a really nice workout though!

[chin3se604]

When you take pwo's are you guys taking it on an empty stomach?
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i usually take it 1.5 hrs after my last meal and then workout like 30 mins after

[!Yaminashi]

i'm just doing as it says, one scoop for the first 3 times, on the 4th one ill prob do 2 until i dont feel anymore and ill go up to 3 after that , once im done this though, ima give assault a try

When you go onto assault it'll be a different type of energy. I found it was enough to wake me up and get me going, but my workouts were never as good as on 1MR

[XplicitLuder]

When you go onto assault it'll be a different type of energy. I found it was enough to wake me up and get me going, but my workouts were never as good as on 1MR

so you're saying give 1MR a try before assault ? and the new or old formula ?

[Fcukedd]

Looks like Muscletech released their own "super-concentrated" pre-workout called Neurocore.
It looks to have a good profile, but what do you guys think of it?
I might give it a try, since the price is similar to Jack3d, 1MR, etc.

MuscleTech NeuroCore at Bodybuilding.com: Lowest Prices for NeuroCore (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mt/neurocore.html)

[hal0g0dv2]

I find mp assault keeps me focused and good feelin the whole workout , I do no like being jacked up on caffeine , mp assault is prob the best pre I have tried
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[incubus]

so you're saying give 1MR a try before assault ? and the new or old formula ?

1mr might be too strong if your new to preworkouts

Assault is probly the way to go good clean energy no crash and not really over the top caffeine high like 1mr

White flood v2 is a close second

Ultima is my fav preworkout non stim and legit profile
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[DC5-S]

I don't take pre workouts anymore :) only intrabolic now
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[!Yaminashi]

so you're saying give 1MR a try before assault ? and the new or old formula ?

Personally I like 1MR alot more than assault. This might be because it was the first caffeinated preworkout supp I tried so I started off being all jacked up on stimulants.

Thats not saying assault is bad, but I prefer 1MR.
IF you decide to try 1MR first and you're new to supps, do NOT take a full scoop

[van_driver]

anyone know where i can buy C4 locally? popeyes doesnt have it

[incubus]

Not that great has 1,3d in it
Its just a weaker jack3d gl finding it don't think cellucor is well known yet
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[vafanculo]

Almost done my 1mr and gonna try assualt. Does popeye carry it? Or, should I try Ripped Freak cause I'm cutting? Or, is it really all the same BS?
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[Dazzl240]

How long do you guys keep taking you pre-workout stuff? I think I've been on it for a year with maybe a week or two off in between.

[RRxtar]

popeyes carry MP?

[JSilver]

^^ Yeap.

[XplicitLuder]

nope i'm not a n00b at pre-workous. Almost done my jack3d and i gotta say i cant effing wait! 3 scoops of it, and its so sweet its DISGUSTING! ugh lol Now i wanted to try Assault, but i do like the feeling of being jacked up on caffeine (i was taking fat burners before = LOTS of caffeine lol) so i'll prob go with 1MR or Razor 8.


popeyes carry MP?

why not buy it from bb.com ? I'm pretty sure its WAY cheaper lol

[Fcukedd]

If you think Jack3d is sweet, just wait 'till you try Assault. That shit is the sweetest stuff ever. 1MR is quite sweet as well IMO

[XplicitLuder]

fuck me..oh well lol maybe depends on the flavour ? haha

[Jer3]

assault is pretty sweet like fcukedd said. razor8 isnt as sweet but i find it taste like an asshole. if u buy from popeyes, its pretty damn expensive. $60 when i saw it (assault that is). happy i only paid less than $25 a tub when they had that buy 2 get 1 deal on bb.com

[RRxtar]

i get a pretty good deal from popeyes, works out close to svn or supplimentscanada prices. and i cant pick stuff up from across the border or shipping is a bitch from bb.com

[XplicitLuder]

assault is pretty sweet like fcukedd said. razor8 isnt as sweet but i find it taste like an asshole. if u buy from popeyes, its pretty damn expensive. $60 when i saw it (assault that is). happy i only paid less than $25 a tub when they had that buy 2 get 1 deal on bb.com

what asshole have you tried before...:troll: haha and yee if and when i buy i'll be doing it through bb.com or maybe not even gonna buy that yet. I'm more into losing weight right now, so i might be getting on dat der ECA stack thing lol

[vafanculo]

Anyone try Ripped Freak? I'm finishing my 1mr this wk and deciding between MP or RF
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[incubus]

Yeah I got 3 tubs for 20 haha still got some left

I'd wait a bit before trying ripped freak or anything else that's a lot of caffeine u should cycle off for 2 weeks atleast or else your body builds up tolerence
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[XplicitLuder]

ye i just got off RF before going onto jack3d. I think the guy who gave me the "how to take it" did it wrong cus i think my body got used to it =[

i kept taking 2 pills + a single white caffeine pill in the morning and once again before my workout...

[incubus]

A fat burner wit caffeine and adding more just prooves u need to cycle off caffeine coffee pop etc
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[XplicitLuder]

:werd: plus i am addicted to soda, no jokes lol

i think the eca stack that everyone is doing off epi + caf pill or whatevs does better results then RF

[strykn]

1mr old formula sealed , delivered $35 , ill throw in half a tub of whiteflood for free.

[Jer3]

1mr old formula sealed , delivered $35 , ill throw in half a tub of whiteflood for free.

good deal. too bad im not a fan of 1mr :okay:

[Fcukedd]

Currently using Neurocore by Muscletech.
Probably their only supplement that's good, and not overpriced.
It's very similar to the energy you get from Jack3d, and no bad crashes either.
$39.99 at US GNC (used my friend's gold card), so it came down to $29.99
I believe it's like $30 on BB.

[ed99]

Currently using Neurocore by Muscletech.
Probably their only supplement that's good, and not overpriced.
It's very similar to the energy you get from Jack3d, and no bad crashes either.
$39.99 at US GNC (used my friend's gold card), so it came down to $29.99
I believe it's like $30 on BB.

Where did you manage to get Neurocore? I tried ordering it on bb but there is an ingredient that is restricted to Canada. On the side note how do you like it so far compared to other pre-workout?

[Fcukedd]

Oh yeah they have Geranium in the ingredient list which is banned in Canada. I was able to purchase it since I was in the States for the weekend. You can have it shipped to Point Roberts and pick it up from there.

It's probably my favourite one aside from Jack3d (old formula). They're both very similar; I just love the feeling when on 1,3 DMAA (Geranium) and caffeine.

[dealt]

1mr old formula sealed , delivered $35 , ill throw in half a tub of whiteflood for free.

Check your PM bro

[Jer3]

just ordered some no xplode 2.0 to sample. at $7 for 10 servings, u cant really go wrong. will see how it stacks against the other NO products out there

[areyez]

what flavours goood for assault??i wanna try blue raspberry, but after trying 1mr's blue raspberry im kind of hesitant, cuz it tasted like ass

[incubus]

Rasp lemonade or fruit punch imo some of the new ones don't have suma root
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[hal0g0dv2]

green apple is great for assault and fruit punch is also really good, mp makes really good products

[areyez]

any inputs on the flavors of combat powder by mp?gonna switch over from isoflex

[hal0g0dv2]

any inputs on the flavors of combat powder by mp?gonna switch over from isoflex

choc peanut butter is good

[vafanculo]

I've done 3 superpumps, 1 1mr, and now working with razor8, all with no breaks. Time for a break?? I still feel the effects, I'm just more worried about health reasons.
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[Jer3]

what flavours goood for assault??i wanna try blue raspberry, but after trying 1mr's blue raspberry im kind of hesitant, cuz it tasted like ass

im not a big fan of their blue raspberry. if u know how amazing superpump's blue raspberry taste, this one is a lot shittier tasting and flatter. the green apple is good tho. taste like a green jolly rancher.

[zubairali]

how long should you take 1MR for?? please help, here is how i take it

day1- 1 scoop 1MR
1.5 scoops Whey Isolate
1-2 scoops Vitargo

day2- 1 scoop 1MR
1.5 scoops Whey Isolate

Day3- break

day4- 1 scoop 1MR
1.5 scoops Whey Isolate

day5- break

[XplicitLuder]

if it's like any other supplement, so lets say jack3d. You just take a scoop everyday before your workout, until it runs out. Never heard of taking a "day" break then back to it again

[Jer3]

gave no explode 2.0 a try. first time using a bsn product and im pretty impressed. 1 scoop got me clean energy and little to no burnout. feels a bit like assault. taste for the fruit punch flavor is not bad. first preworkout that ive tasted that has a bit of fizziness to it. worth the $7 for 10 serving mini bottles on bb in my opinion.

[JSilver]

what flavours goood for assault??i wanna try blue raspberry, but after trying 1mr's blue raspberry im kind of hesitant, cuz it tasted like ass

Any flavor is fine to me. But if I had to choose one it would be Fruit Punch.

Quit swirling the drink in your mouth and just slam it.

[strykn]

Got this new one called PHD Wired, no 1,3, .... 60 servings per tub. It is 10% stronger than assault, more servings, win.

[Supafly]

Just finishing up my Tub of 1MR.....feels good bro...

Whats your guys take on Animal Rage???

[incubus]

All assault flavors are good

Like I said orange mango is out on bb.com

Stryken how is that stuff? I looked into it couple months ago

Wasn't a fan of animal rage orange tasted worse than 1mr blue rasp, stick wit 1mr or go razor 8 if u like the 1,3
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[Supafly]

Wasn't a fan of animal rage orange tasted worse than 1mr blue rasp, stick wit 1mr or go razor 8 if u like the 1,3
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okay good to know. Im on the new 1MR without the 1,3....don't know what being on 1,3 is like :concentrate:

[hotong]

muscle pharm assualt + added beta alanine = win

[strykn]

muscle pharm assualt + added beta alanine = win

are u trying to kill ur self...


and to incubus got a killer deal on it 40$ local, might as well give it a try.. its MUCH better than assault imo (focus wise) and more servings... but it doesn't buffer the lactic acid build up good as assault

[BrRsn]

okay good to know. Im on the new 1MR without the 1,3....don't know what being on 1,3 is like :concentrate:
Kinda like this,

Took to many pills - YouTube


Started taking creatine again. Can one of you guys that take creatine with tea help me out, is it ok if I load 20G/day for 4 days with my morning coffee/tea, and then stay steady at 5g/day with my morning coffee/tea?

I can't take it 3x daily for the first 4 days, so is it okay if i just take a large amount once a day?

[areyez]

i got an extra tub of muscle pharm assault(green apple) if anyone wants to trade

[G35_]

1MR ftw

[Excelsis]

I think I'll get myself a pre workout.. anyone here tried out jack3d, 1MR, and Razor? Any differences or is it just same stimulants with different brand names?

ah btw, anyone know how long it takes for the stimulant 1,3-dimethylamylamine to get out of your system? I'm an athlete and competitions won't let me allow to do that or should i just stay away from it?
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[Fcukedd]

Well the Jack3d and 1MR sold here have a revised formula without the 1,3 DMA..so it shouldn't be a problem.

[Excelsis]

what about razor8? and was looking a bit through this thread.. how come white flood is banned in Canada?
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[Fcukedd]

Not too sure about Razor8, and White Flood.

Anyways, I'm still taking Neurocore and it's probably the best PWO I've ever taken. I always feel strong as hell, and super concentrated. No crash either!

[SkinnyPupp]

Ordered some White FLOOD. Since I train fasted, I find that the caffeine really gives a nice kick now. Could care less about the 'pump' aspect... I am still not that interested in trying 1-3D though, so I stuck with the old school pre workout supp.

[PK6o4*]

went to states bought some neurocore for $40 lets see how it goes
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[Jer3]

razor8 in canada has no 1,3d. the one in the states still does tho. check out their website and u can see the ingredients labels.

[RRxtar]

got a small bottle of superdump max. so far i think i like it better than 250. actually sofar i think its my favorite of the 5 or 6 pre's ive taken. (im not a fan of anything with 1,3imgoingtodie in it like 1mr)

[BlackV62K2]

1MR makes me feel like crap after. The crash is horrible.

[Supafly]

1MR makes me feel like crap after. The crash is horrible.

I find that if i have a decent post-workout meal, the crash doesn't happen.:ahwow:

[AAnthony]

got a small bottle of superdump max. so far i think i like it better than 250. actually sofar i think its my favorite of the 5 or 6 pre's ive taken. (im not a fan of anything with 1,3imgoingtodie in it like 1mr)

I love superdump max. I had à scoop at the beginning of class, its been half an hour and im already tweaking out, sooo pumped to hit the gym. Im not dwn with any of the super concentrated blends, they make me feel so cracked out. SP max and fasttwitch are hands down my 2 favorites...clean energy
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[PK6o4*]

currently i have 1mr and neurocore

1mr one scoop gives me some pretty good energy, crash isnt too bad
neurocore one scoop did little to nothing so gonna increase it to 2scoops
and see how it goes

[Fcukedd]

The serving size for 1MR is like 2.5-3 servings of Neurocore lol
I take about 2-2.5 heaping scoops of Neurocore in 180mL of water. Super concentrated :megusta:

Oh, and why do people bash on 1,3 DMA? What's wrong with it?

[Excelsis]

athletes can't use it, you're going to get in big shit if they find that in you during a competition

[Excelsis]

btw anyone know where to buy it where it doesn't contain the 1,3 DMA?

[Supafly]

all the new 1mr does not contain 1,3 fuckurshitup.

[SkinnyPupp]

White Flood Watermelon + Greens+ :sweetjesus:

[Outreach]

Anyone try NEUROCORE from MuscleTech?

[odishaw]

Got a NO-Explode sampler in an online order recently... i have been using white flood though which provides a good focus i find, no jitters or anything..

but anyways i tried the no explode and the scooper is about 10x larger than white floods, but i read the instructions and all seemed correct, so 1 scoop mixed with water 30 mins prior to workout, and mixed one scoop with water for during workout...

well about 10 minutes into the workout (doing chest) i was super jacked, i was hyped right up, arms and hands were shaking, i couldnt stand still, i was pumped up!!! it was so extremely over the top i felt like i was on drugs. but it was to the point where my arms were shaking so much during dumbell press i actually couldnt lift.

so moral of my reveiw... i dont think ill be taking it for working out ever again, but might have a scoop pre club on the weekend? lol

[dn53]

anyone have problems sleeping after taking pwo?

hit the gym at like 8 or 9. norm ill be sleeping by 1130 or 12, but the past two days ive been sleeping at 2-3.

i was taking wired before, now im on assault and i got this problem

[hotong]

^ try drinking alot of water to flush your body

[blkgsr]

what would you guys recommend for a "wake up" after work

up at 5:30, work from 7-5, home by 6:30 and don't feel like doing shit all when i get home

i walk all day long, up and down stairs...normally tired as shit when i get home but i want to start hitting the gym again but i'm just too tired

i don't need any too crazy with super jacked up shit, just something to give me an energy boost when i get home and before the gym

[Fcukedd]

Eat a banana, take a preworkout :thumbsup:

Assault seems to be very popular on here, you should give it a shot

[TouringTeg]

For anyone on Vancouver Island, groupon in on for $20 off when you spend at least $40 at Popeyes in Victoria and Nanaimo.


$20 for $40 Worth of Vitamins and Sports Nutrition Merchandise at Popeye's Supplements in Victoria and Nanaimo http://www.groupon.com/deals/popeyes-supplements-1?utm_campaign=UserReferral&utm_medium=email&utm_source=uu29218342

[Meowjin]

I just take whatever is free/my bro gives me.

it's all the same shit. Just a shitload of caffeine.

[TouringTeg]

Ok so I've tried a Razor 8 (half scoop) recently and Assault fruit punch (full serving) today and can now compare.

Razor 8 (half serving)- Felt jittery and was jumping around a lot between sets. Comparable to drinking lots of coffee. Very high peak and then came down very hard afterwards. Had it in the morning and took about 45 mins to kick in. After 5 hours I felt like doing nothing. Was not able to lift heavier or increase volume.

Assault (full serving) - Took 30mins to kick in. Less of a peak but I could feel tingling in my legs and increased blood flow and heart rate. I was able to lift really heavy even at the end of my workout which was awesome. Hammer curls 40lbs instead of 35lbs. I find the up and down is way less dramatic than Razor 8. Less jittery. It did not give me more energy as I went for a short run after my work out and ran out of energy quickly. I did feel a little dizzy/nausea right at the end of my workout. Big side effect was that I wanted to fuck like crazy. I am guessing testosterone is ramped up. No problems with mood/impatientness. Also a note that I have been very thirsty in the hours following my workout.

I would do Assault again. Very little side effects and was able to lift heavier!

[JD¹³]

I need to find this Assault stuff, sounds decent. Any recommendations for a good creatine? I prefer capsule form and water retention doesn't concern me. The stuff I'm using now is garbage.

[strykn]

dont use capsule creatine, get a any monohydrate mix with juice or green tea in mornings

[Gh0stRider]

ive been using Purple K with is capsule form.

[Gh0stRider]

Big side effect was that I wanted to fuck like crazy.

:lawl:

[strykn]

Assault (full serving) - Took 30mins to kick in. Less of a peak but I could feel tingling in my legs and increased blood flow and heart rate. I was able to lift really heavy even at the end of my workout which was awesome. Hammer curls 40lbs instead of 35lbs. I find the up and down is way less dramatic than Razor 8. Less jittery. It did not give me more energy as I went for a short run after my work out and ran out of energy quickly. I did feel a little dizzy/nausea right at the end of my workout. Big side effect was that I wanted to fuck like crazy. I am guessing testosterone is ramped up. No problems with mood/impatientness. Also a note that I have been very thirsty in the hours following my workout.

I would do Assault again. Very little side effects and was able to lift heavier!

New assault or old assault? Sounds like the suma-root :okay:

[TouringTeg]

Honestly I don't know. It was a sample from Popeyes here in Victoria and I don't know how old the stock was.

[truth]

I need to find this Assault stuff, sounds decent. Any recommendations for a good creatine? I prefer capsule form and water retention doesn't concern me. The stuff I'm using now is garbage.

I can give you a serving of assault to try

[strykn]

selling unopened tub of assault orange mango 40$ or trading for unopened jack3d with 1,3 in it pm me

[Fcukedd]

I need to find this Assault stuff, sounds decent. Any recommendations for a good creatine? I prefer capsule form and water retention doesn't concern me. The stuff I'm using now is garbage.

http://musclepharm.com/creatine

I'm using this which is $21.99 on Bodybuilding. It has creapure in it and a nice blend of other kinds of creatine. Actually seeing some minor strength gains (an extra rep or two here and there), but not sure if I'm just getting stronger :suspicious: :fuckthatshit:

[see.lai]

^ placebo effect? :troll::troll:

i need some extra energy as well.. :concentrate:

[SkinnyPupp]

That's a lot of money to pay for 300g of creatine.. you can get 4x that much mono!

[TouringTeg]

2nd time trying Razor 8 half serving went very well. Had a good idea what to expect this time. Had me ramped up for my entire workout. Super sets no problem. Does not increase endurance but for 1hr I could feel no pain.

Crashed hard after 5 hrs and just wanted to sleep. (Took it at 4:30pm)

[SkinnyPupp]

Trying SuperPump 250 again since I had some left. :heckno:

[BlackV62K2]

Tried SP 250 raspberry lemonade mixed with the last little bit of my Assault. Best tasting pre workout drink I've ever had lol. Assault flavor was blue artic raspberry

[sindragon]

have super pump maxed raspberry lemonade. holy fuck i feel like puking every time after workout now. dunno what is up cus i was never getting naucsious before

[Stealthy]

For Assault users:

How would you compare the effects of the old formula vs the new formula?
I've got this version:
http://www.aussiefitness.com.au/product_images/a/971/assault_450_white__61433_zoom.jpg (older I believe correct me if I'm wrong)

[truth]

I've noticed a huge difference in effect when it comes to empty stomach/full stomach dosing of assault. I find I get a better energy boost when it comes to using it in the morning without any food except a banana. After about 30 minutes my hands and fingers start to tingle and that's when I book it to the gym. Took a dose after dinner tonight and didn't have the energy, but was focused.

[SkinnyPupp]

Ugh superpump 250 sucks, going to throw the rest away. Makes me feel nauseous, white flood is so much better imo.
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[Jer3]

Ugh superpump 250 sucks, going to throw the rest away. Makes me feel nauseous, white flood is so much better imo.
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strangely ive been liking white flood a lot more lately. i couldnt appreciate it before cause it never got me super stimmed out like razor8, superpump, assault etc.

[strykn]

i miss old assault gave me more of a "beast" type feeling

[RRxtar]

im so mad about gaspari changing the formula of the new superpumpMAX already that i sent them an email.

[RRxtar]

old label vs new label
http://i56.tinypic.com/2znx4i1.jpghttps://www.svncanada.com/gfx/products/12522/uploadA.jpg

most glaring fact is they pulled almost all of the b12 out of it, and it was Methylcobalamin b12 too which is the top of the line b12 and replaced it with lower quality b12.

the new label lists how much of each of their proprietary blends are in it now where the old one doesnt so its tough to see what that change is.

heres the old superpump250 label for comparison

http://weightliftingsupplementsreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/gaspari-superpump-250-ingredients1.gif
it had a TON of low quality b12

[SkinnyPupp]

It looks pretty much the same to me... Less B12 but you could just pop a pill for that. I doubt you'd miss it.

IMO the only things a pwo NEEDS to have is caffeine, bcaa, and something for dat dere pump. Anything else seems superfluous to me, because the ingredient amount is usually so low.
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[vafanculo]

I'm still supporting razor8. Been thru SP, 1mr, and R8. 1mr is good, but I got too many headrushes after squats or deadlifts. SP was ok at first, but eventually my body needed more and more. With R8, not as jittery as 1mr, no headrush, and puts a jolt in my ass every time.

Tried one scoop of assult, will prolly pick up a bottle when I'm ready to lift heavier.
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[incubus]

+1 to what skinny said, people seem to like agmatine too

Assault old and new formula not a big difference imo

If you guys want sometin stimulant heavy like razor 8 1mr ppl have been talkin bout muscle marinade too
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[JSilver]

I find the new formula of Assault to kick in faster but the old formula did feel stronger though.

Either or the new one is fine by me.

[kevin7352]

Anybody have a sealed tub of assault for sale

[tubbyboi]

new formula of assault gives me more of a focused lifting session, old formula made me feel like i should rip my shirt apart before i do a set like hulk hogan :fullofwin: but both is fine by me.

[JD¹³]

Just tried Assault for the first time having been off pre-workout supps for a little over 2 months. I was having trouble getting warm and pumped at the gym.... and today I had sweat running down my legs and beading on my arms and forehead. Epic.

[red kryptonite]

Ordered 4 bottles of 1MR from BB.com 2 weeks ago and they sent me 1000g bottle of creatine and 2 XL tshirts.
Now I got to wait another week for it to show up.
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[red kryptonite]

yes, its finally here!!!

http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss233/rk888/1mr.jpg

[AAnthony]

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[gdoh]

i dont know how people can take 1mr it was way to intense for me, nearing the end of my workout i always started to get sick

assault and glycergrow have been my go to for quite some time and i see no need to change.

new formula feels less intense than the older formula but still gives great energy for the work out

[Stealthy]

good night sweet adrenal glands

[Recon604]

Ordered 4 bottles of 1MR from BB.com 2 weeks ago and they sent me 1000g bottle of creatine and 2 XL tshirts.
Now I got to wait another week for it to show up.
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how did they send u 1000g bottle of creatine and 2 xl shirts?

[Supafly]

yes, its finally here!!!

http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss233/rk888/1mr.jpg

Good god....your liver, heart, and veins will hate you....

[hotong]

yes, its finally here!!!

http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss233/rk888/1mr.jpg

whyyyy the new formula is shit!

[red kryptonite]

havent tried the old stuff before so i wouldnt know

[Mr.Money]

heh...i wonder if you got any for friend's too cuz i wouldn't buy that much shit.


hope you got some protein,multi-vitamin's and some glutamine,& mega-3

[Excelsis]

wat

glutamine omega 3's and vitamins aren't necessary

don't get carried away with the supplement industry, you don't need all that shit

[Mr.Money]

wat

glutamine omega 3's and vitamins aren't necessary

don't get carried away with the supplement industry, you don't need all that shit



glutamine for recovery & better immune system,your body also run's low on it when your stressed out,omega 3's since I'm pretty hard on my joint's....also gives you better skin/hair.
& vitamin's since i don't have enough time in a day to eat 3 orange's,apple's...once 'n awhile but not alway's..

i wouldn't trust it running on pre-workout's alone unless your eating high protein food every day like Steak,egg's,chicken,fish fillets.
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/8641/supj.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

Glutamine does shit all for recovery

Only thing it's reasonably good at is maintaining a healthy gut

[Mr.Money]

shit,here i thought it Helps To Build, Repair, muscle tissue..


i done be had from marketing :okay:

[gdoh]

use xtend by scivation instead

[kevin7352]

Sealed tub of green apple new formula assault for $30. PM me

[kevin7352]

Bump :badpokerface:

[RRxtar]

alright ive been switching back and forth between assault and superdumpMAX for a few weeks now i think i can make a comparison and say I definitely like max better.

imo, assault is one of the worst tasting pre-workout drinks ive ever taken (fruit punch). it makes me want to barf. max tastes better, and tastes alot better than 250 did.

assault seems to be mellower. max seems to really get me into a 'i gotta go smash shit right now! zone' max makes me really crush the gym start to finish until i absolutely have nothing left. assault doesnt do that for me.

i am currently stacking pre-workout drink, beta alanine, and creatine all into my pre-workout drink and im loving this combo.

[PK6o4*]

are you taking alanine 2 x a day or all at once?

[RRxtar]

im taking about 4.5g 30 minutes before gym

[buffme]

Has anyone tried Crazed by Drivien sports?

[kevin7352]

http://www.revscene.net/forums/639983-supplements-39.html

[ShadowBun]

what does beta alanine do again?

[RRxtar]

in bro terms:

beta alanine: it delays the burn in your muscles so you can get an extra rep or 2 out.
creatine: it helps the cells in your muscles function slightly better so you can push an extra 5-10% more weight.

[ShadowBun]

understood.

[Recon604]

fck dont get N.O Xplode. My heart is startin to ache when I drink a scoop of it. I just found out that it contains Glycocyamine and it can cause neurological disorders and cardiovascular diesease.

[Stealthy]

fck dont get N.O Xplode. My heart is startin to ache when I drink a scoop of it. I just found out that it contains Glycocyamine and it can cause neurological disorders and cardiovascular diesease.

Stay safe brah

[Recon604]

Stay safe brah

yeah just ordered assault. hopefully it does good to me

[Alpine50]

When on creating everyone's saying to drink tons of water (about a gallon?) but does it matter if it's a mixture of juice and milk?
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[SkinnyPupp]

fck dont get N.O Xplode. My heart is startin to ache when I drink a scoop of it. I just found out that it contains Glycocyamine and it can cause neurological disorders and cardiovascular diesease.
So you're switching to steroids?

[BrRsn]

So you're switching to steroids?

at low ass BW and young age, no less.

[Recon604]

So you're switching to steroids?

not knowning what your taking is one thing. It's just a warning for others who didnt know.

[Iceman-19]

I bought some Razor 8. Recommends 1 scoop, I tried that for a bit it doesn't seem to do fuck all for me. Trying 1.5 scoops mixed with half a scoop of Super Pump 250. See how that works out today. I get cracked out on a full scoop of Super Pump, but at least I knew it was doing something! I don't feel any more energized on the Razor....

[hal0g0dv2]

mixing pre workouts not the best idea

[Iceman-19]

Oh? Maybe Ill get some SuperPump max then.

[Stealthy]

Oh? Maybe Ill get some SuperPump max then.

make sure to take a dump before you go to the gym :p

[Iceman-19]

It doesnt do that to me. 250 never did anyways. Everyone loved Razor 8 that I read, I didnt feel like it did fuck all for me.

[Stealthy]

It doesnt do that to me. 250 never did anyways. Everyone loved Razor 8 that I read, I didnt feel like it did fuck all for me.

Imo, taking a stim-break for one or two weeks could help

[604_Snooze]

I bought the Costco Kaizen whey protein, is there any place I can buy a shorter version of a barbell for home use?

[SkinnyPupp]

Trying White Flood again after using Assault for a while. Also been adding Greens+ and DMAE to my PWO. Waiting for my shipment of Biotest Alpha GPC to arrive.. that should be fun :megusta:

[infin8]

Currently taking jack3d (Its banned but you can still order it from bb.com and it'll have 1,3 dime in it) and I also snagged a few from Reflex surrey a couple weeks ago (even though its over priced)

Shit is like crack. I cycle between jack3d and MP assault.

I need a stim break though. Once I cut it'll be Ephedrine and Caffeine for me :P

[hal0g0dv2]

Trying White Flood again after using Assault for a while. Also been adding Greens+ and DMAE to my PWO. Waiting for my shipment of Biotest Alpha GPC to arrive.. that should be fun :megusta:

Wow a bio test order

[Supafly]

So I went and bought an out of the ordinary PreWO....
"Bull Dose Extreme"

Heres my review on it....coming from a late 1MR user.

The Pumps: I like it....I was lifting heavier and for a longer duration....deff noticed the change when not on pwo...did chest yesterday, and up'd the weights by 10lbs on the dumbells and up'd my machine bench by 45lbs...lol

The Buzz: Wasn't really buzzing....just meh...but had energy to work the heavy bag for 20mins after my chest/back workout.

Taste: Grape. I liked it...kinda tasted like those fizz candy thingys.

Mixability: Hrmm.....25gr in 8oz of water, there was a little bit of floaties but nothing an extra oz of water swished around couldnt clean up.

----
After effects: Didnt get a crash after; so that was a bonus. Took at 300pm, was still up at 1130pm....might tone down the dosage by a couple of grams.

Will comeback for a results review in 3 weeks.

[Iceman-19]

Imo, taking a stim-break for one or two weeks could help

I only use them for a week, when I go to camp I am off them for 2 weeks.

[SkinnyPupp]

Wow a bio test order
Yes but it isn't one of their goofy supplements, it's just pure GPC Choline... I priced it out, and it is actually priced favorably to other brands (except bulk powder which I don't want to deal with)

[Verdasco]

hmm anyone here have suggestions for creatine? i need a new small tub :D

local or online don't matter as long the price is right and is good :thunbs:

[PK6o4*]

allmax 80 servings $18

[Verdasco]

allmax 80 servings $18

where?

[PK6o4*]

reflex

[buffme]

I'm thinking about buying some Neurcore. I was under the impression it wasn't sold in canada but i found it here

https://www.svncanada.com/product/2820/muscletech-neurocore

is it allowed in canada? If so, i might from bb.com . Also, are you allowed to bring jack3d across the boarder?

[PK6o4*]

they sell it in canada now saw it at reflex

[incubus]

really hard to gauge which pre workouts are good alot of solid formulas

been trying biopulse madness, iforce hemavol, iforce intense but assault seems to be pretty consistent but intense and madness are more stim caffeine heavy in a good way though

[butters]

Just bought assault from bb.com, $41 includes shipping to canada, save $20 instead of buying from popeyes/reflex :fuckyea:

[Recon604]

just tried one scoop of Craze, I used to use Assault. I got to admit wow, this stuff from Craze works. It allows me to push beyond my limits, I am not kidding.

One serving of Craze is 5.3grams, while one serving of Assault is 23 grams. So the scoop for Craze is hella small, yet does so much shiet.

BUT The side effects of Craze for me was it gave me the side effects of CAPS. This stuff is serious. The side effects of Craze tat are similar to the ones I get from popping is I sigh a lot and my mouth is constantly gulpling, swallowing and grinding and my tongue is also constantly moving around.

I dont know whether to recommend this stuff or not, it works but not good for your brain...

edit: searching online, apparently others also exhibit these side effects...

[Stealthy]

just tried one scoop of Craze, I used to use Assault. I got to admit wow, this stuff from Craze works. It allows me to push beyond my limits, I am not kidding.

One serving of Craze is 5.3grams, while one serving of Assault is 23 grams. So the scoop for Craze is hella small, yet does so much shiet.

BUT The side effects of Craze for me was it gave me the side effects of CAPS. This stuff is serious. The side effects of Craze tat are similar to the ones I get from popping is I sigh a lot and my mouth is constantly gulpling, swallowing and grinding and my tongue is also constantly moving around.

I dont know whether to recommend this stuff or not, it works but not good for your brain...

edit: searching online, apparently others also exhibit these side effects...

Lol yes, except I don't have the grinding and tongue moving. Mouth gets REALLY dry.
Albeit I feel happy as shit after I workout though!

[Excelsis]

+1 on being happy but don't really notice dry mouth

do you guys drink water during workout?

[Stealthy]

+1 on being happy but don't really notice dry mouth

do you guys drink water during workout?

Tons, I finish my 600 ml bottle every 10-15 minutes

[hal0g0dv2]

+1 on being happy but don't really notice dry mouth

do you guys drink water during workout?

2/3 litres

[BinsentoW]

2-3 litres, or 2/3 of a litre? I drink about half a litre and donpt like the feeling of too much liquid in my stomach

[ShadowBun]

i personally drink enough to satisfy my dry-ness
basically less than 100ml

[Recon604]

holy fck tat craze fcked me up. I am still experience some side effects... I aint takin this shiet anymore, it is exactly like popping. If I want to pop, Ill get some caps but this shiet is way too much for a preworkout drink.

[Stealthy]

holy fck tat craze fcked me up. I am still experience some side effects... I aint takin this shiet anymore, it is exactly like popping. If I want to pop, Ill get some caps but this shiet is way too much for a preworkout drink.

How much are you dosing?

[strykn]

I drink 2-3 litres as well

[Recon604]

How much are you dosing?

i only took one scoop of it, god i couldnt even go to sleep last night.

[hal0g0dv2]

That is 2 . 3 liters for me

[JSilver]

+1 on being happy but don't really notice dry mouth

do you guys drink water during workout?

:suspicious:

[kevin7352]

I just discovered the best pre-workout.
Almonds.

[Excelsis]

:suspicious:

lol asked because I sigh a lot and my mouth is constantly gulpling, swallowing and grinding and my tongue is also constantly moving around.

[TouringTeg]

I got Assault last week and have been trying it again. Rasberyy Lemonade flavour is great. 1/2 scoop didn't help much but a full scoop was awesome. Was thristy through my workout and into the evening so I have to drink plenty of water.

Even though I took it at 4pm, it kept me awake! I am very sensitive to caffeine and preworkouts though.

Craze sounds... nuts

[JSilver]

Just finished two 100 serving tubs of these and on to my next two that I just ordered:

http://assets.bodybuilding.com/store/prodimage/prod_prod460028/image_prodprod460028_white450px.jpg

I find this one much stronger than Assault but it could be reasons due to a pre-workout change. I have used Assault for a long while now and decided to switch it up.

Focus: 9/10
Strength gains: 9/10
Pump: 10/10
Taste: 8/10

[LC21]

Craze sounds like a pre-rave supplement to me.

Anyone else here just drink coffee as their pre-workout supplement?

[BrRsn]

Craze sounds like a pre-rave supplement to me.

Anyone else here just drink coffee as their pre-workout supplement?

I used to but the problem with coffee is that it gives you the shits, as does superdump 250/assault/anything with caffeine in liquid form.

200mg caffeine (pill) + 25mg ephedrine is usually pretty good to get you in the zone, and avoid the PWO induced shits.

[Araaadi]

Just a note, anyone who buys 1MR , don't buy the watermelon flavor. I bought it because it came with with 20% more, but its honestly horrible.

[PK6o4*]

holy fck tat craze fcked me up. I am still experience some side effects... I aint takin this shiet anymore, it is exactly like popping. If I want to pop, Ill get some caps but this shiet is way too much for a preworkout drink.

hey dude if u gonna throw it away throw it over here

[SkinnyPupp]

OK this looks like a legit PWO

http://www.seriousnutritionsolutions.com/img/products/Focus-XT.png

https://www.smartpowders.com/Images/focusxtfacts.JPG

Focus XT | SNS - Serious Nutrition Solutions (http://www.seriousnutritionsolutions.com/products/core/Focus-XT.php)

I just wish they had used a better form of choline

[mikemhg]

Currently using Purple Wraathhttp://assets.bodybuilding.com/store/prodimage/prod_27326/image_27326_450_white.jpg

No caffeine in it, so it's definitely not a stimulant type PWO. I'm using "Purple lemonade" flavor which tastes... meh. Let's just say it doesn't take like Lemonade, but more like Lemon Candy, like those lemon drops.

This stuff has A LOT of Beta-Alanine in it, like tons. You think Assualt gives you the itchies, this shit leaves you feeling like you have the strongest tingle lotion all over your body lol. I actually like the feeling, even if it might just be a gimic.

It's a good PWO though, I'd give it a 8/10, gives you an amazing pump. If you're looking for a PWO without caffeine I would definitely suggest it.

[BlackV62K2]

^ I took purple wraath intra workout but then i was stacking it w/ white flood as my pre workout.

[SkinnyPupp]

yeah that's more of an intra workout, perfect for doing fasted workouts. I use Xtend. I have used Atomic 7, but I find that the flavour is too weak to use a lot of water with.

[hal0g0dv2]

blue raspberry amino from bb.com supplements its really tasty

[TouringTeg]

Will be interesting to see if products with DMAA (Jack3d/Oxylite) are pulled in the US. It was already banned in Canada in July 2011.

News Headlines (http://www.cnbc.com/id/47244948/)

[SkinnyPupp]

Yes they are in the process of being pulled. Smartpowders is having a fire sale on pure DMAA, so when the new products come out without it, you can add it back in.

[dealt]

Yes they are in the process of being pulled. Smartpowders is having a fire sale on pure DMAA, so when the new products come out without it, you can add it back in.

Link please? Can't find it on their site?

TIA

[SkinnyPupp]

https://www.smartpowders.com/p-5366-13-dimethylamylamine-200-caps-20mg.aspx

[hal0g0dv2]

True Nutrition | 1,3-dimethylamylamine Powder (3g) (http://www.truenutrition.com/p-1135-13-dimethylamylamine-powder-3-grams.aspx)

[Powerslide]

I find Beta-Alanine supplements super unpleasant.

I dont know if anyone else had this, but I used to take Superpump Max and SizeOn from Gaspari. I'm virtually certain it was causing mild heart palpitations and a persistent skin reaction.

My thought is that some of the shit in these must be fat soluble, because it took a while for my skin to go back to normal after I quit it.

I also would occasionally get 'grey-outs' while working out on Superpump around the time right before I stopped using it. Also would have to take a leak around 12 times per workout.

It made me feel like fucking superman when I took it- I used to look forward to the superpump almost more than the workout itself.
Glad I got over that stuff.

[hal0g0dv2]

Beta alanine makes everyone skin tingly
That is a side effect

[PK6o4*]

not liking beta alaanine either bought it a few months ago used maybe 16 servings out of 80, first time felt tingly every time after that nothing much pretty nauseous upped the dosage from 6g to around 10-12g a day and after a few days stopped taking it and is now in my room

[SkinnyPupp]

Beta alanine helps recovery, but only quick recovery. Like if you rest more than 1 minute between sets, it's not worth taking. But it works wonders if you are doing circuits, supersets, or HIIT

[PK6o4*]

in that case i may get back to it, i started a new routine this week, with tons of pre exhaust, rest pause and supersets which leaves me exhausted between sets and sore as fuck next day, coming from strength based routines with 3min+ breaks

[Excelsis]

i think i'm into 2nd or 3rd week taking beta alanine

probably not getting again lol

[SkinnyPupp]

in that case i may get back to it, i started a new routine this week, with tons of pre exhaust, rest pause and supersets which leaves me exhausted between sets and sore as fuck next day, coming from strength based routines with 3min+ breaks
It will help. I promise. Just take 8g a day, and spread it out if it makes you sick or too tingly. Also take it with food!!!

BA is NOT a pwo! It has no acute effects that are beneficial to working out AFAIK. How it works is increasing carnosine in the blood, and that happens over time. The only reason it's in pwo formulations is because pwos are mostly stupid gimmicks, and they put it in there because people can "feel it working"

[SkinnyPupp]

I'm on the way to the gym, and already the effects are pretty noticeable. Music sounds amazing :fulloffuck:

[SkinnyPupp]

Strong laxative effect. I pity the fool who had to clean that toilet when I was done with it. :pokerface:

[strykn]

I'm on the way to the gym, and already the effects are pretty noticeable. Music sounds amazing :fulloffuck:

what are u talking about?

[SkinnyPupp]

what are u talking about?
With Focus XT + Oxiracetam.. music seems 'brighter' and there are components that come to the forefront that I never noticed before. Colors seem a bit more 'vivid' too. It's not as pronounced as weed of course, but if you look for it, the effect is there.

Oh and I should report that the laxative effect never happened again. That was a one time thing, probably because I took my creatine too late.

[Jordanl250]

been using 1MR for heavy days, just bought some craze. Hopefully its as good as they claim

[hal0g0dv2]

did u like it ^^^

[Jordanl250]

did u like it ^^^

Yeah I love it, I've pretty much tried every Pre workout on the market. I have a really high tolerance to caffeine so the old 1MR was the only thing that really worked for me. Jack3d, Assault, Neurocore, Razor 8 just seemed like weaker versions of it. I like Craze its a different feeling than 1-3 dimeth. It's give you some crazy focus with way less caffeine. The effects last longer too.:notbad:

[SkinnyPupp]

Personally I would be wary of taking Craze for very long. I finally found out what this orchid extract was all about... turns out it contains 3 different Phenylethylamines... in other words, it is chemically 99% identical to amphetamine. I guess you could say that this is a bath salt drug in the form of a PWO?

Here's a good writeup on (http://hightowerpharmacology.blogspot.com/2012/04/new-phenylethylamine-derivatives.html) the three compounds.

There is currently a lawsuit about these supplements, and I think it even alleges that they used actual amphetamines, so the label may not be on the up-and-up... They allege that it is not actually a plant extract, but synthetic chemicals. This is similar to the problem the 1,3d supplements had, where they would call it "geranium extract" but it actually contained no geranium at all (because the plant version is ineffective in humans) Here is a good writeup on the lawsuit (http://www.nitricoxidesupplementsite.com/driven-sports-craze/lawsuit).

Something to consider, if you care strongly about what goes into your body. Especially if you have to take drug tests for work or sports.

[Jordanl250]

Personally I would be wary of taking Craze for very long. I finally found out what this orchid extract was all about... turns out it contains 3 different Phenylethylamines... in other words, it is chemically 99% identical to amphetamine. I guess you could say that this is a bath salt drug in the form of a PWO?

Here's a good writeup on (http://hightowerpharmacology.blogspot.com/2012/04/new-phenylethylamine-derivatives.html) the three compounds.

There is currently a lawsuit about these supplements, and I think it even alleges that they used actual amphetamines, so the label may not be on the up-and-up... They allege that it is not actually a plant extract, but synthetic chemicals. This is similar to the problem the 1,3d supplements had, where they would call it "geranium extract" but it actually contained no geranium at all (because the plant version is ineffective in humans) Here is a good writeup on the lawsuit (http://www.nitricoxidesupplementsite.com/driven-sports-craze/lawsuit).

Something to consider, if you care strongly about what goes into your body. Especially if you have to take drug tests for work or sports.

Aware I've done my research, not too worried

[SkinnyPupp]

What research have you done? You're not concerned at all that you are taking an amphetamine with one methyl group added? Like a legit one, not a bogus plant extract...

[vafanculo]

Excited. Getting my craze and superpump max delivered tomorrow woot

[Excelsis]

craze = amphetamine? lolwut, kick isn't that strong though never tried mdma or shit like that

[Benefit6o4]

I've never tried mdma before but i told my friends the aftermath of when i take craze and made him try it for a workout, told me its almost the same symtoms when your on E.

When ever im done from the gym on a craze day i feel as if the energy doesnt end 0.0 No crash LOL over tiered but cant sleep

[Benefit6o4]

The pumps it gives are fucking amazing tho

[SkinnyPupp]

I've never tried mdma before but i told my friends the aftermath of when i take craze and made him try it for a workout, told me its almost the same symtoms when your on E.

When ever im done from the gym on a craze day i feel as if the energy doesnt end 0.0 No crash LOL over tiered but cant sleep
The ingredients in craze are very closely related to MDMA

If I remember, I'll put some pics up so you can see how similar they are. For now, look up PEA

[Excelsis]

what have i been taking :pokerface:

[Stealthy]

You sold me at amphetamines

[A$AProcky]

My current nootropics stack

CDP Choline
Piracetam
Sulbutiamine
Vinpocetine
L-Tyrosine

Some herbs and shit as well
Gotu Kola
Bacopa
ac-11 aka cats claw "5000"

Need to find a good PWO to go along with this i was going to try focus xt but it has choline bitarate & huperzine a in it and i have most of the ingredients.

[Excelsis]

wut do you really need all the Piracetam, Sulbutiamine, Vinpocetine

and anyone else has the feeling of eyes kind of getting sore after craze? not sure if sore but something like that..

[Benefit6o4]

wut do you really need all the Piracetam, Sulbutiamine, Vinpocetine

and anyone else has the feeling of eyes kind of getting sore after craze? not sure if sore but something like that..
I know what you mean feels like your eyes are dry or over tiered.
Really debating weather to keep taking craze or not:suspicious:
My arm litteraly increases almost twice the size with the pump but at night i find myself not getting sleep until late

[Stealthy]

wut do you really need all the Piracetam, Sulbutiamine, Vinpocetine

and anyone else has the feeling of eyes kind of getting sore after craze? not sure if sore but something like that..

How much are you guys dosing to get these side effects?

My dose is 1.5 - 2 scoops max and I'm sleeping normally, only weird effect is that I get horny as fuck. (like mdma)

[hal0g0dv2]

I know what you mean feels like your eyes are dry or over tiered.
Really debating weather to keep taking craze or not:suspicious:
My arm litteraly increases almost twice the size with the pump but at night i find myself not getting sleep until late

hahaha twice the size wtf

[SkinnyPupp]

hahaha twice the size wtf
LITERALLY!

[SkinnyPupp]

what have i been taking :pokerface:
Whatever it is, it's not listed on the label

[A$AProcky]

wut do you really need all the Piracetam, Sulbutiamine, Vinpocetine

and anyone else has the feeling of eyes kind of getting sore after craze? not sure if sore but something like that..

why? because they have positive affects on me.

[Excelsis]

took it in the morning now on empty stomach, doesn't seem to have that effect on eyes, i think i'll lay off this for about a month then come back to it again, still have like half of container left :lol

[GGnoRE]

Anybody tried Wired before?
Also, when do you think is the best time to take creatine? 30 min before workout?

[hal0g0dv2]

Anybody tried Wired before?
Also, when do you think is the best time to take creatine? 30 min before workout?

Morning and before
Subject could be Beat to death. Try that or could do it after what ever u want

[Stealthy]

Morning and before
Subject could be Beat to death. Try that or could do it after what ever u want

wrong it's

You Can Do Whatever The Fuck You Wanna Do!!! - YouTube

[vafanculo]

Tried craze today.. And I gotta say, that shit craye!

Dunno if it was my mind playing tricks on me, or it really works. I didn't feel a big caffeine rush, and my focus was there. Did more cardio then usual, sweated more, and if it wasn't for being in a rush, I woulda stayed longer.

So far so good.

Gonna try SP Max in a few days to compare.

[The_Situation]

Just tried a scoop of craze today also. It was pretty good. Kept me focus and in the zone. I wasn't jittery at all. You guys hyped it so much. I was expecting it to be like mdma.

[Jordanl250]

^try 2 scoops maybe your tolerance is high. Took it for deadlifts today I was so focused my stare coulda burned a hole through the wall lol

[Benefit6o4]

How often do you take craze or your preworkout. i got a high tolerance and dont want to get used to it so i usually take it 2 days a week to not get used to it.

[Jordanl250]

How often do you take craze or your preworkout. i got a high tolerance and dont want to get used to it so i usually take it 2 days a week to not get used to it.

I only use it when I'm going for a 1 rep max or on days when I have zero energy

[Meowjin]

Err just read this thread. So Craze = Amphetamines?

Sucks cause I can't really touch pre-workout stuff anymore, so I just take some vitamins in the morning, my daily dose of dexedrine and just hit the gym hard.

[SkinnyPupp]

MJ see if you can fit choline and oxiracetam into your regimen. They are neither MAOI nor SSRI so should be OK. Not stimulatory per se, but can stimulate the mind.

[Meowjin]

^i'll just double check with the psych.

I heard magnesium supplements are good too.

Edit: Just read I can get it from eggs and fatty meats. I'll add a hardboiled egg to my breakfast.

Where can you get the oxiracetam in vancouver? Is it pricey?

Seems worth a try.

[SkinnyPupp]

Eggs have choline, but we're talking about 600-900mg of Alpha GPC which is highly absorbable and crosses the blood-brain barrier more easily than food based choline.. that's probably equivalent to about 20-30 eggs worth of acetylcholine in the brain.

oxiracetam would probably be really expensive in stores, I would recommend buying it from a place like smartpowders.com

[Meowjin]

i'll check it out.

[Meowjin]

So Skinny, I picked up some cheap multi vitamins from superstore, and they were trying to clear out some brand of cod liver oil so I managed to get a bottle for 3 dollars.

As for choline, I couldn't find it, but It would have been helpful if I knew that vitamin name for (b6?)

Supps weren't in this weeks budget so I gotta wait till next payday.

[SkinnyPupp]

Choline isn't technically a vitamin. Look for Choline Bitartrate for the cheapest form. Even cheaper would be lecithin but you'd be getting a lot of extra calories to reach a therapeutic dose.

Don't overdo it with the cod liver oil, that stuff is almost pure vitamin A, and can build up in your liver quite easily.