[Roach]

Edit: Here's the story:

http://www.globaltvbc.com/video/million+dollar+impound/video.html?v=2113328382&p=1&s=dd#video

Just saw the evening news hour, 13 "supercars" impounded for driving erratically down highway 99 south this afternoon.

Didn't see anything else on the forum. Looked like all Vansky kids.

Orange LP560 Superleggera
Blue LP560
Red California
Matte Black R8
DB9
White SLS

Story emphasized them mainly having N signs.

Cars have been impounded for 7 days or something. Serves them right for using the highway (during near rush hour) as a race track.

Take it to the track kids.

Kev

[haulin oats]

Just saw on global news a bunch of sr cars getting impounded. Including mattzhangs r8, and a bunch of other SR cars. Doing over 200k/hr on hwy99.

Dumb move got caught

[jmvdesign]

Just saw this too. LOL 2 million dollar worth of cars impounded for 7 days just near White Rock. People called it in the police claiming they were street racing along 99 weaving in and out of traffic.

[Roach]

Here is the only news story I can find so far:

WHITE ROCK – Eleven swank sports cars were towed out of White Rock to the impound yard early Wednesday evening after police stopped what appears to have been a massive street race down Highway 99 into White Rock.

Const. Janelle Shoihet said Lamborghinis, Maseratis and Nissan 350Zs were among the cars seen weaving in and out of traffic.

White Rock RCMP, Surrey RCMP and Deas Island Patrol are involved in the investigation, of which few details are available at this time of writing.

“I think they all pulled over peacefully,” Shoihet said of the drivers.



Read more: Swank cars to be impounded following suspected street-racing bust (http://www.thenownewspaper.com/Swank+cars+impounded+following+suspected+street+ra cing+bust/5336731/story.html#ixzz1Wg8HbWN0)

Kev

[asahai69]

mattzhang fail

[alex.w *//]

yup saw this too

[AndM]

Just more evidence to show that money can't buy class or brains for that matter :failed: :facepalm:

[Roach]

Highway 99 south is quite busy around 3pm too. I travel that route everyday. What a dumb and dangerous move pulling 200k.

They must have been doing some dumb shit for multiple motorists to dial 911.

Kev

[1exotic]

Const. Janelle Shoihet said Lamborghinis, Maseratis and Nissan 350Zs were among the cars seen weaving in and out of traffic.


lol 350z? more like R35 GTR's.

[SeedBNR]

I always see that ugly ass GTR with a blue lp560 and white sls ripping it around richmond together..

[Culture_Vulture]

7 days for putting public roads/motorists in danger like that? That's retarded.
My friend got 7 days for doing 80 up UBC.

Dem traffic laws.

[alex.w *//]

neccessary to have 3 threads on this topic?

[alex.w *//]

neccessary to have 3 threads on this topic?

[Zyzz]

what happens after u snort coke

[jbsali]

damnnn

[Roach]

neccessary to have 3 threads on this topic?

About as necessary as you posting the same thing in all 3 threads. Check the timestamps. Fuck. Not a difficult thing to comprehend.

Kev

[!e.lo_]

Merged that shit.

[jbsali]

saw it too. i'm surprised that the cars were only impounded for 7 days. Anything for 40km qualifies for 7-30 days of vehicle impoundment... they got off easy if you ask me

cops should pull the DLs from the N drivers..

[Roach]

First post updated with a video link to the story.

Kev

[!e.lo_]

courtesy of dbaz
Million dollar impound - News Hour Final - Videos | Global BC (http://www.globaltvbc.com/video/million+dollar+impound/video.html?v=2113328382&p=1&s=dd#video)

[StylinRed]

would have been :fullofwin: if they were to be auctioned off

[Szeto]

impound their cars for 2 months and suspend their license for 2 years is what should have happened. :fuckyea:

[Greenstoner]

lol is it really mattzeng É

[StylinRed]

impound their cars for 2 months and suspend their license for 2 years is what should have happened. :fuckyea:

the ones with "N" will probably have to redo their licensing

[jpark]

i still dont understand how these kids only got 7 days of impound speeding on busy roads, considering the f430 scuderia and the m5 a whileback on mt seymour received alot worse penalty, which wasnt even as dangerous as this...

[Szeto]

the ones with "N" will probably have to redo their licensing

Didn't the Ferrari from while back get auctioned off? We could do the same to these cars :troll: and yeah, give them like a 5 year suspension or something.... long enough to keep them off the road :)

[MindBomber]

lol is it really mattzeng É

Edit:

The car shown in the news report has the plate number 888-XDS, skip to 22 seconds, so it was Matt.

http://www.globaltvbc.com/video/million+dollar+impound/video.html?v=2113328382&p=1&s=dd#video

[TOS'd]

Unless there were two matte black R8s at the summer meet, it was NOT Matt Zhang. Check out the pictures in this thread, the plate is 888-888.

http://www.revscene.net/forums/652089-2011-revscene-summer-meet-pictures-videos-6.html#post7553258

The car shown in the news report has the plate number 888-XDS, skip to 22 seconds.

Million dollar impound - News Hour Final - Videos | Global BC (http://www.globaltvbc.com/video/million+dollar+impound/video.html?v=2113328382&p=1&s=dd#video)
From other thread:
I cant wait to hear his excuse for this one lol

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6069/6067696021_fdd79805ce.jpg
from the RS meet

[MWR34]

Unless there were two matte black R8s at the summer meet, it was NOT Matt Zhang. Check out the pictures in this thread, the plate is 888-888.

http://www.revscene.net/forums/652089-2011-revscene-summer-meet-pictures-videos-6.html#post7553258

The car shown in the news report has the plate number 888-XDS, skip to 22 seconds.

Million dollar impound - News Hour Final - Videos | Global BC (http://www.globaltvbc.com/video/million+dollar+impound/video.html?v=2113328382&p=1&s=dd#video)

there was 2 Matte black R8's in the Meet, one had no front plate, and the other had 888 on the front plate.. and it was 888 XDS... the 888 888 was photochopped.
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3480/dsc0180s.jpg


Oh Mr.Zhang, your lucky it isnt going to BCauction

[rageguy]

Unless there were two matte black R8s at the summer meet, it was NOT Matt Zhang. Check out the pictures in this thread, the plate is 888-888.

http://www.revscene.net/forums/652089-2011-revscene-summer-meet-pictures-videos-6.html#post7553258

The car shown in the news report has the plate number 888-XDS, skip to 22 seconds.

Million dollar impound - News Hour Final - Videos | Global BC (http://www.globaltvbc.com/video/million+dollar+impound/video.html?v=2113328382&p=1&s=dd#video)

Photoshop, my friend.

[jpark]

Oh Mr.Zhang, your lucky it isnt going to BCauction

he will just buy it back even if it did :D

[Great68]

Did they actually radar these guys at 200km/h, or did they take some joe public's phone call to 911 saying "Oh my god they must be doing twoooo hundredddd"?

[MindBomber]

Photoshop, my friend.

:failed:

I just scrolled through the summer meet thread until I saw what appeared to be Matt's car, I didn't realize the plate had been edited.

[Lamboda]

Highly disappointed at these fellows. I thought it was common sense not to drive that fast in broad daylight with so many cars around. Seriously money can't buy lives.

[CP.AR]

CBC.ca Player (http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Local_News/BC/1317899897/ID=2113312174)

skip to 7:00

please... RCMP, charge the children. if possible put them into prison.

[XplicitLuder]

dinner party gone wrong :troll:

TOO LATE JUNIOR!

[TOS'd]

Highly disappointed at these fellows. I thought it was common sense not to drive that fast in broad daylight with so many cars around. Seriously money can't buy lives.

So its okay to drive on a public road that fast in the dark and with not so many cars around?

[6thGear.]

The Rents are gonna be mad their car's are missing...:troll:

[G]

In for waiting for Matt's response.

[nack]

In for waiting for Matt's response.

QFT

[donjalapeno]

in before matt zhang says " im so sorry guys :okay: , can you guys still be my friends?, ill let you drive my friends supercars oh wait i cant"


i still dont understand how these kids only got 7 days of impound speeding on busy roads, considering the f430 scuderia and the m5 a whileback on mt seymour received alot worse penalty, which wasnt even as dangerous as this...

IT WAS A M6 IDIOT. god

[XplicitLuder]

every cop made its quota for the month :troll:

[satek]

Never liked the kid, doubt I ever will.

[Lamboda]

So its okay to drive on a public road that fast in the dark and with not so many cars around?

No, if they're speeding they're breaking the law. But what I'm trying to get at is if they're going to do something dangerous, do it so that no one else gets hurt. They were weaving in traffic, so they should have done it with no/minimal traffic which is at night.

[Szeto]

^ when one of the cars loses control and wipes out the other cars it's not really "no one else gets hurt" ....

[lgman]

No, if they're speeding they're breaking the law. But what I'm trying to get at is if they're going to do something dangerous, do it so that no one else gets hurt. They were weaving in traffic, so they should have done it with no/minimal traffic which is at night.

U and Freddy Fonseca would make good friends.

[TOS'd]

No, if they're speeding they're breaking the law. But what I'm trying to get at is if they're going to do something dangerous, do it so that no one else gets hurt. They were weaving in traffic, so they should have done it with no/minimal traffic which is at night.
So its okay to drive on a public road that fast in the dark and with not so many cars around?

[1exotic]

So its okay to drive on a public road that fast in the dark and with not so many cars around?

yes it is

[- kT]

Million dollar impound - News Hour Final - Videos | Global BC (http://www.globaltvbc.com/video/million+dollar+impound/video.html?v=2113328382&p=1&s=dd#video)

definitely matt zhang. @ 0:38 in the video i quoted above, he's the one in the middle who turns to face his friend

and really, does this surprise anybody? cause it sure doesn't surprise me

enough of this "i'm so sorry guys i was letting my friend drive blah blah please forgive me it won't happen again blah blah" bullshit. does RS allow these types of dipshits onto the boards?

[snowball]

in before matt zhang says " im so sorry guys :okay: , can you guys still be my friends?, ill let you drive my friends supercars oh wait i cant"

IT WAS A M6 IDIOT. god

more like "no guys, it was actually my friend driving!"

[BEEB]

We should do it Singapore way !
http://warrenssingapore.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/caning1.jpg

[ShyGuy]

They definitely got off easy with 7 days.

[k3mps]

this really pisses me off.
the stupidity and lack of common sense and lack on concern for others on the road.

[shenmecar]

hope they all get their license suspended for a year.

[PornMaster]

They should get more than 7 days
I am not saying this just because they were driving expensive cars and mommy and daddy will pay for it.
200km 3pm during heavy traffic?!?!?!

I know people who get 7 days impounded for going 75km on a city road

[b-dub]

If these guys are smart, they wouldn't say anything and get a good lawyer. I'm sure these guys have a shit load of money at their expense to get a team of lawyers to battle this.

You guys think that these guys having their cars impounded is going to make a difference in their lifestyle? They just take off back to their motherland, get another license and exchange it for a new BCDL or they just go party in another country for however long they get suspended for. Worst case scenario? They hire a driver or get their friends to take them to school/work/head out.


Best thing that can happen right now is if they hire a team of lawyers to fight this and set a precedence for the rest of us that has some brains not to speed in busy metropolitan areas and are "driving spiritedly" at midnight when no ones around by themselves in an isolated stretch of hwy. There is a time and place for everything, obviously they chose the wrong time and wrong place. For those of us that have some brains, I hope they set a precedence for the rest of us and with their disposable income, I'd hope that their fine is low.

[MWR34]

he will just buy it back even if it did :D

someone make a troll account on BCauction and keep upping the bid past Retail price... lol.

[king_2011]

7 days for putting public roads/motorists in danger like that? That's retarded.
My friend got 7 days for doing 80 up UBC.

Dem traffic laws.

where in ubc did ur frend get caught at?

[Soundy]

There is a time and place for everything, obviously they chose the wrong time and wrong place.

Yeah.... right here. (http://g.co/maps/rsa9)

[Soundy]

IT WAS A M6 IDIOT. god

Does that have turbo? :noob:

[GDChoi]

In for waiting for Matt's response.

sub'd for Matt's response as well:fullofwin:

[StylinRed]

Corporal Holly Marks says

...

"It's amazing to me that someone that young has that much of a powerful vehicle. And then driving it in a manner where so much injury could be caused to people. They were all traveling together. At one point you'd have two vehicles that would actually hang back, and they would hold back the rest of the traffic on the freeway, so that the vehicles ahead of them could take off in a race."

RCMP arrest 13 young people racing in expensive cars - News1130 (http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/272580--rcmp-arrest-13-young-people-racing-in-expensive-cars)

[xilley]

YES! HAH finally caught mattzhang doing something stupid
knew that kid wasn't all "obeying" the law like he said he does

[FRStan]

idiots

:moderatorban:

[asian_XL]

mainlanders are balling out of control

[Meister1982]

7 days? Should've seize their vehicles and auction them off

[Matsuda]

at least we won't have to worry about them showing their dumb asses to the meet tonight

[Nvasion]

you can see matt at 37 seconds into vid LOL

[Death2Theft]

I think the difficulty comes with proving which of the 13 cars went 200km...

[Death2Theft]

Yeah screw those exotic cars we'd much rather have meets with mazda 3's and civics.
at least we won't have to worry about them showing their dumb asses to the meet tonight

[6thGear.]

At least those mazda3's / civics were paid for by the owner and built with sweat, tears and hard earned money. A lot more respect from me for those owners.

[nns]

in before matt zhang says " im so sorry guys :okay: , can you guys still be my friends?, ill let you drive my friends supercars oh wait i cant"

Never liked the kid, doubt I ever will.

definitely matt zhang. @ 0:38 in the video i quoted above, he's the one in the middle who turns to face his friend

and really, does this surprise anybody? cause it sure doesn't surprise me

enough of this "i'm so sorry guys i was letting my friend drive blah blah please forgive me it won't happen again blah blah" bullshit. does RS allow these types of dipshits onto the boards?

more like "no guys, it was actually my friend driving!"

Wow. I thought I was the only 1 who thought this way!

I'll be really honest, since we all are. Ever since Pei Jing Zhang and his R8 appeared, he's given all R8's, IMO, a bad name. It's gotten to the point where I don't even consider an R8 a worthy spot any more because it reminds me of Pei Jing and his daddy's whip.

It was total BS how people accepted his stupid "apology" too. GTFO.

[clowe]

Wow...all 20 years old or younger.

[Jsunu]

Yeah screw those exotic cars we'd much rather have meets with mazda 3's and civics.

I rather have those Mazda 3's and civics rather than retarded exotic rich daddy street racers that rip up and down the street (ie Mattzhang and his R8 in the summer meet).

[s300ae]

If the riots proved anything, these kids will get a slap on the wrist.
Those cars should be confiscated, sold at auction, and proceeds given to charities.



Is there a YouTube or vimeo of this? I can't watch it off the site on my iPhone.
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[ilvtofu]

They should get more than 7 days
I am not saying this just because they were driving expensive cars and mommy and daddy will pay for it.
200km 3pm during heavy traffic?!?!?!

I know people who get 7 days impounded for going 75km on a city road

It's because there is so little/weak evidence, I doubt anyone was radar'ed at 200km/h. IMO they will have a lot of difficulty proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt

[Gumby]

Stupid kids + rich parents = :flamemad:

[twixxer]

It's because there is so little/weak evidence, I doubt anyone was radar'ed at 200km/h. IMO they will have a lot of difficulty proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt


exactly...people are so quick to jump on these guys, honestly people hear the exhausts making a little bit of noise and assume cars are flying.

[TouringTeg]

Concerns me that you can have your car impounded for a week and face towing/impound charges as well as fines because citizens called in to say "They are all going 200 km/h"

Anyone here got a ticket based on someone calling you in?

[91civicZC]

While I do believe the drivers should get large fines and loose licenses (especially for the N drivers), I’m a big believer in that the police or province has no right to take your property unless purchased by illegal means or with currency directly related to crime.

Toss the book at these morons, but the idea that the cars should be forfeited by the owners and sold is ridiculous and a law that Canadians should be fighting. The whole idea is extremely “big brother” to me.

Good lord I hope these idiots loose there licenses though.

[PiuYi]

Did they actually radar these guys at 200km/h, or did they take some joe public's phone call to 911 saying "Oh my god they must be doing twoooo hundredddd"?

+1

doing 200km/h near george massey at 3pm? unless these cars could actually fly, i find it highly unlikely

i'd be pissed the fck off if somebody called in and said i was going a certain speed and the po took it for fact and impounded my car too

[white rocket]

The reason this stuff happens is because licencing in BC is a fucking joke. It seems like any retard can get a licence. Monetary punishment doesn't do anything for these rich dicks. If you cannot follow the rules then that licence you were granted should be taken away, plain and simple.

[s300ae]

@91civic
I somewhat agree, but.. The people who are getting their cars impounded and sold are not struggling students living on a budget driving a 88 tercel...
They are people who are wealthy enough to buy a 100k car, can afford a good lawyer, and have complete disregard for other drivers on the road.
Ex. The two drivers driving up to whistler and racing.

SO what if they get their licenses suspended.. It doesn't stop them from driving. Prisons are over crowded for them to get any jail time.
They need to hit them where it would hurt the most. In their pocket book. Or their parents book since they are so young.
A few years ago that driver that killed a woman while street racing got pulled over a few years later with a suspensed licence.
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[Gee.Tee.Ar]

At least those mazda3's / civics were paid for by the owner and built with sweat, tears and hard earned money. A lot more respect from me for those owners.

Far more parents buy mazda 3's and civics as starter cars for their children

[jackmeister]

so can someone explain how you can do 200 km/h during rush hour on highway 99? :fulloffuck:

[dachinesedude]

seriously, if they were radared going 200km, you'd think they only get a 7 day impound? obviously its ppl calling in claiming they're going that speed, or that the media is harsh hyping it up (you know how they love street racing stories)

not siding with these guys dont get me wrong, just saying how i see it

[Spectre_Cdn]

For the second time in less than a week, Vancouver has a story on Jalopnik :\

Mounties impound 13 supercars from rich kid street race (http://jalopnik.com/5836512/mounties-impound-13-supercars-from-rich-kid-street-race)

[nns]

Who cares how fast they were going. It was fast enough to get people to call the cops after them. It's not like everybody who called was from RS looking to troll these guys. It was Joe Public.
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[Roach]

Yep, and keep in mind it was multiple people who dialed into 911. I travel 99 regularly and it has to take something pretty aggregious for me to feel compelled to call someone in. Much less have multiple people call it in.

Kev

[twixxer]

i am pretty sure a pack of super cars with their amazing exhaust sounds and quick acceleration will get a few calls for no reason at all other than they sounded like they were going quick. What if only a couple of them were speeding? What if it was just one? Its unfair to label all these guys street racers without accurate info.

[s300ae]

so can someone explain how you can do 200 km/h during rush hour on highway 99? :fulloffuck:

You missed this part of the story: two cars would stall traffic, clearing up gaps, while others raced.

Edit: allegedly "raced"
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[91civicZC]

@91civic
I somewhat agree, but.. The people who are getting their cars impounded and sold are not struggling students living on a budget driving a 88 tercel...
They are people who are wealthy enough to buy a 100k car, can afford a good lawyer, and have complete disregard for other drivers on the road.
Ex. The two drivers driving up to whistler and racing.

SO what if they get their licenses suspended.. It doesn't stop them from driving. Prisons are over crowded for them to get any jail time.
They need to hit them where it would hurt the most. In their pocket book. Or their parents book since they are so young.
A few years ago that driver that killed a woman while street racing got pulled over a few years later with a suspensed licence.
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For me that illustrates that the penalties for driving with a suspended license need to be more extreme. I remember hearing about a case where someone was pulled over more than 10 times with a suspended license. How are these people not in Jail?

I believe in less government and common sense. Unfortunately there is less and less common sense now, which I think means penalties for certain actions needs to be higher.

The government and police departments’ ability to step in a start seizing private property for something that didn’t even see a real trial for the defendant goes beyond what I think is acceptable.

While I believe that dangerous driving needs to be dealt with in a strict manner, I don’t believe simply taking peoples property is the correct way to do it. Impounding for a set time, Large fines, possible jail time, and forfeiture of driving license is all fine to me - seizing and selling is not.

From the fails Im getting, I would suspect Im in the minority in this view anyway!

[JD¹³]

I absolutely LOVE THIS. I deal with goofs like these kids all the time and I feel no sympathy seeing their spoiled brat asses getting brought back to reality. Just look at those kids they're so young they have no concept of responsibility or any idea how to safely operate the vehicles their parents let them drive. I'm not a fan of the new speeding laws but these impounds are completely justified. I'm sure all those kids with N's will be losing their licenses for at least 3-6 months just adding more awesome to the reality bitchslap they just received.

[skylinergtr]

I saw that grey lambo with the license plate "I ZHU" yesterday morning. Surprisingly he was driving quite slow to enter hwy1 from West Van and stayed in the right lane going slowly. I even passed him. Funny to hear this story this morning.

[Pharoh]

I saw that grey lambo with the license plate "I ZHU" yesterday morning. Surprisingly he was driving quite slow to enter hwy1 from West Van and stayed in the right lane going slowly. I even passed him. Funny to hear this story this morning.

maybe Dad was driving?


BC = home of the mail order drivers license. Good thing for them this isn't Toronto, might have resulted in smashy smashy!

[spoon.ek9]

time for some :moderatorban: ? i sure hope so :D

[CharlieH]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.urlesque.com/media/2010/05/haterbatman.jpg

[tiger_handheld]

The cars have been impounded for seven days, and each driver will be issued with a $196 violation ticket and a charge of driving without due consideration for others.
Read it on Global News: Global BC | Rush hour street race ends in 13 arrests (http://www.globaltvbc.com/rush+hour+street+race+ends+in+13+arrests/6442473821/story.html#ixzz1WixeW6Os)

[CP.AR]

Yep, and keep in mind it was multiple people who dialed into 911. I travel 99 regularly and it has to take something pretty aggregious for me to feel compelled to call someone in. Much less have multiple people call it in.

Kev

Massey tunnel is such a piece of shit :devil:

[twitchyzero]

these guys probably come from the same gene pool as Freddy

[Sir_Loin]

They weren't radared by any body so they'll probably get tickets for driving recklessly due to the numerous calls made by drivers on the road. I'm surprised there were no reports of any accidents I mean speeding up to "200KMPH" during the start of rush hour should have resulted in an accident or two.

[6insomnia9]

Driving without due care is probably one of the worst charges you can get.

[s300ae]

Riots = 100s of arrests 0 charges
Reckless driving = 13 arrests... I see another goose egg in the future.

The criminal justice here is a joke. If anyone on here thinks they'll receive jail time for this must be as stupid as those kids.
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[hypediss]

i read the driving without due care is 6 points and i think that alone would mean a suspended license for many of these n's and l's

regardless - really hope they lose their license instead of having them suspended

[platinum300]

What really bugs me about this story is the way the police handled the situation. They basically arrested and impounded these exotic cars from the public phoning in without any hard evidence from a speed trap or actually a police officer seeing the actual event.

What happens if I happen to drive an exotic car and I happen to be driving through the Massey Tunnel at the same time. I'm pretty sure I would of been arrested and my car impounded.

What will happen if I see some douche bag and I didn't like the way he drove and I call 911 to report that he's driving like an idiot with speeds up to 200km/hr. Is the police going to hunt him down and arrest and impound his car?

[Great68]

Who cares how fast they were going. It was fast enough to get people to call the cops after them. It's not like everybody who called was from RS looking to troll these guys. It was Joe Public.
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In my opinion it's fundamentally wrong that based on the word of Joe Public something as drastic as vehicle impoundment can be applied, regardless of how many people called it in. If that's what happened in this case then that's fucked up.

If the police did in fact witness the act, then I have no problem with the penalties they got.

[white rocket]

I wish driving skill and common sense dictated what car you were allowed to purchase. These fucktards will pay for the impoundment and infractions with the change in their couch, hop in their highly undeserved supercars and continue to make our roads unsafe.

[s2upid]

In my opinion it's fundamentally wrong that based on the word of Joe Public something as drastic as vehicle impoundment can be applied, regardless of how many people called it in. If that's what happened in this case then that's fucked up.

If the police did in fact witness the act, then I have no problem with the penalties they got.

What about if the public calls in about a drunk driver, but when the officer finds them, they're not as drunk as they called in?

[unit]

+1

doing 200km/h near george massey at 3pm? unless these cars could actually fly, i find it highly unlikely

i'd be pissed the fck off if somebody called in and said i was going a certain speed and the po took it for fact and impounded my car too

although i agree that they shouldnt be impounded without proof of driving so fast, its not hard to do 200 in a car like a ferrari. few seconds on the gas from normal hwy speeds and you're there.

[Supafly]

although i agree that they shouldnt be impounded without proof of driving so fast, its not hard to do 200 in a car like a ferrari. few seconds on the gas from normal hwy speeds and you're there.

its not hard to do 200km/h in a built and boosted civic/mustang/hyundai either.....:rolleyes:

[Noir]

Suspending license is just a joke. If they're inconsiderate enough to engage in publically dangerous activities, what makes you think that they'll be considerate enough honouring the privileges of a simple a plastic card (or lackthereof).

[Qmx323]

haha, leave the country for a while

right back at it here

[Great68]

Anyone here got a ticket based on someone calling you in?

Years ago one of my buddies got one with his '69 Camaro.

One day we had been playing with the carb and he decided to give it a short go in 1st gear down the street to test our efforts. One of the neighbors phoned and complained and a cop showed up later in the day with a ticket alleging he was doing 100km/h down the street.

It was total bullshit, my buddy runs 4.10's in the back of his Camaro, so 1st @ 7000RPM you'd be doing 50km/h MAX but I imagine to the fuckface neighbors a 400hp Musclecar @ 7000RPM probably sounded like warp speed.

According to the cops on here if a judge deems the fuckwad a credible witness, the ticket would stick. Any old fuck could be deemed a "credible witness" especially if the defendant is a young adult.

My buddy never fought the ticket, I gave him shit for that.

[Supafly]

Years ago one of my buddies got one with his '69 Camaro.

One day we had been playing with the carb and he decided to give it a short go in 1st gear down the street to test our efforts. One of the neighbors phoned and complained and a cop showed up later in the day with a ticket alleging he was doing 100km/h down the street.

It was total bullshit, my buddy runs 4.10's in the back of his Camaro, so 1st @ 7000RPM you'd be doing 50km/h MAX but I imagine to the fuckface neighbors a 400hp Musclecar @ 7000RPM probably sounded like warp speed.

According to the cops on here if a judge deems the fuckwad a credible witness, the ticket would stick. My buddy never fought the ticket, I gave him shit for that.


I got called in on one before....for "wreckless driving"....the constable gave me verbal shit over the phone trying to scare me :rolleyes:....I told them, that if you're going to charge me, I'd be glad to see everyone in court (all the "witnesses" apparently there was 6 peoples.. )

No charges laid.

[GLOW]

sounds like too much F&F and initial d

http://cdn.chillnite.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/pinkyfinger.jpg

:troll:

[Greenstoner]

Lets be real, if you see exotic cars on the streets.. normally people would admires it even if its speeding.

they must be driving so stupidly for people starts calling cops on them

either excessive speeding or driving dangerously..

[xpl0sive]

i wonder how many of these witnesses are actually trained at estimating speed to be calling in 200km/h street racing supercars? These kids will get off the driving without due care and speeding tickets by paying for a half decent lawyer. I doubt they will be able to convince the superintendent to let them keep their licenses and they will have to pay the impound fees because of this stupid new law. the police are now allowed to convict a person of a crime on the side of the road and take theirs, or in this case, their parent's property and hold it. That sounds illegal to me.... But if the cop's story is true about two cars hanging back holding up traffic, while the other two lined up to race, then i'm sure these guys went well over 200km/h... oh well what can you do...

[Volvoman]

Took this pic a while back, wonder if this was one of them

http://members.shaw.ca/volvoman/index/Pictures/Nikon/lambo.jpg

[hk20000]

I think there was this scenario where the police had to "chase down" a bunch of those other cars that tried to flee - hence the evidence for that bunch...

the others? Maybe they are so bad in English and police questioning that they just downright admitted that they did a 200kph.

But who here with a 300+HP car hasn't done a 200 just to see how things go? Sure it's stupid to try to block off traffic and do it in the day time but it's 200 all the same.

[s300ae]

That guy ^^ tried to race me on burrard bridge once after the red room.

Edit: guy in the lambo lol
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[hk20000]

^ That guy is not me. Just to clarify.

[Qmx323]

shit i've done 200km/hr+ in my 240...

in NFS shift.

:troll:

[Pharoh]

Proof?

oh I'd bet video of the actual events will surface sooner or later...either from a witness who saw all the nice cars flying by, or a tunnel cam or maybe even (as we've seen with the riots) in the hands of the idiots behind the wheels or in the passenger seats.

I'd still like to see what grounds they police had to impound the cars, not that I care...I'm just curious.

I can't watch the video from the office but was this a case of a roadblock being set somewhere or did the police intercept them in the act?

[asahai69]

He should have just blamed it on the nearest white dude. Lol
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[xpl0sive]

Proof?

oh I'd bet video of the actual events will surface sooner or later...either from a witness who saw all the nice cars flying by, or a tunnel cam or maybe even (as we've seen with the riots) in the hands of the idiots behind the wheels or in the passenger seats.

I'd still like to see what grounds they police had to impound the cars, not that I care...I'm just curious.

I can't watch the video from the office but was this a case of a roadblock being set somewhere or did the police intercept them in the act?

from the picture in the article, the lambo was being towed from a city street, not on the side of HWY99, so they did not get caught in the act

http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2011/09/race1top.jpg

[ntan]

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[unit]

its not hard to do 200km/h in a built and boosted civic/mustang/hyundai either.....:rolleyes:

ok? :wgaf:

[elcurto99]

from the picture in the article, the lambo was being towed from a city street, not on the side of HWY99, so they did not get caught in the act

http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2011/09/race1top.jpg

^^ 152st in White Rock, just before 16th street

[Jermyzy]

Alleged B.C. street race with $2M in luxury cars - Yahoo! News (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/alleged-b-c-street-race-2m-luxury-cars-151254319.html)

..Alleged B.C. street race with $2M in luxury cars
CBC – 26 minutes ago....tweet0EmailPrint......Related Content.
...A high-end vehicle is impounded after an alleged street race in Metro Vancouver on …
....B.C. Mounties say 13 high-end luxury cars were impounded and 13 people fined after an alleged street race in Metro Vancouver on Wednesday afternoon — and police are looking at permanently seizing the vehicles.

At about 3:30 p.m. local time, police received several complaints of high-end cars speeding southbound along Highway 99 in the area of the George Massey tunnel.

Witnesses reported the cars were travelling at speeds up to 200 km/h, and on several occasions two cars would travel side by side and slow down to allow vehicles in front of them to take off in a race.

The cars exited the highway into Surrey, where six of the 13 vehicles were stopped by Surrey RCMP. The other seven cars were located and stopped by White Rock RCMP a short distance away.

Thirteen drivers were pulled over and their cars — worth a total of more than $2 million — were impounded.

"The vehicles that we're dealing with here were Lamborghinis, high-end Mercedes, Maseratis, Aston Martins, high-end Nissan sports cars," said RCMP Insp. Bryon Massie.

"The majority of them had personalized plates as well and were souped-up, so they're fairly distinguished and the witnesses had no problem in providing us with the descriptors that were tracked back to the vehicles."

The drivers have each been fined $196 and will have to pay for the cost of impounding and storing their vehicles for seven days.

However, RCMP Supt. Norm Gaumont said police are looking at tougher measures.

"So we've asked our team to be looking at the possibility of criminal charges and ... if we have enough evidence to lay a charge of dangerous driving. We're also going to be looking at seizing the vehicles for good," Gaumont said.

The names of the drivers have not been released, and Massie said it's not clear where they are from.

"The drivers of the vehicles are all in around the age of 20 years old. They're all new drivers. The majority of them do not have their full driver's licence status — they're still in the 'N' new category," Massie said, referring to B.C.'s graduated licensing program, which puts restrictions on new drivers and requires them to put an 'L' or 'N' decal on their car to alert other drivers of their novice status.

The registered owner of the Lamborghini, Massie said, is only 18 years old.

He said it appears the group was getting together to celebrate one of their colleagues leaving the area.

Massie said the incident highlights an important message to drivers: "Speed is fairly unforgiving. Whenever you're involved in a motor vehicle accident where there's any speed at all, it's unforgiving ... Slow down, be responsible and understand that speed limits are there for a reason."

...

[Walperstyle]

Kids are amateur, come play with us on highway 93 in the Rockey Mountains
aka- away from the public, pedestrians, and police
(A track is better, but we all know how lame our tracks are, and how few and far between they are)

[no_clue]

there goes 13 of SR auto's "preferred" customers lol

[Gumby]

I'm angry at the incident, the way it's being reported, and the consequences. :flamemad:

[Pharoh]

there goes 13 of SR auto's "preferred" customers lol

LOL

[shawnly1000]

Not 100% sure but I would assume that Air One was probably following them, and if so they'd have video proof, perhaps with a possible way of deducing speed

[Happy]

street race away from cops
not into them :failed:

[Oshiguru]

street race away from cops
not into them :failed:

Or don't street race? Take it to Mission raceway.

[Happy]

Or don't street race? Take it to Mission raceway.

i don't understand why they didn't
their parents would probably pay for the tires/gas/cost too

[FI-Z33]

I guess sales for rs6 and m5s are going to go up. There's their punishment right there.
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[GG]

Good they got caught, getting fined and all that bullshit jazz.


But what the fuck are the pigs thinking about a new method just to fuck them over?
If there was no hard evidence, base on some joe blow on the street, OMFG the sound of a v10 roars they must be doing 4000000km an hour, give me a fucking break.

Did they crash? no, did they kill anyone? no
they might if they crash, but the fact is they didnt.

The fuck you wonna lay a criminal charges on them for? seizing their property, what a fucking joke.

NExt thing u know, pigs will be seizing ur gf's tits for evidence.


and just a FYI


which exotic dont speed?

google on youtube

there will be a million of them all doing over the speed limit.

buttom line, witness can eat a dick

[1exotic]

What really bugs me about this story is the way the police handled the situation. They basically arrested and impounded these exotic cars from the public phoning in without any hard evidence from a speed trap or actually a police officer seeing the actual event.

What happens if I happen to drive an exotic car and I happen to be driving through the Massey Tunnel at the same time. I'm pretty sure I would of been arrested and my car impounded.

What will happen if I see some douche bag and I didn't like the way he drove and I call 911 to report that he's driving like an idiot with speeds up to 200km/hr. Is the police going to hunt him down and arrest and impound his car?

most of the people calling the cops are jelly to begin with.

[Vancitydj]

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x69/Digital_Eon/gif/2vamw79.gif

[Qmx323]

WHY 13 SUPERCAR IMPOUND?

BECAUSE RACE CAR

[GG]

most of the people calling the cops are jelly to begin with.

time to start making shit up and call the pigs


OMFG i see a douche bag swirling around lanes, he must be under the influence of weed and pussy


:speechless:

[vo_hantu]

So from the article above they each got $196 speeding ticket and 7 day impound...

Last time I checked excessive speeding ticket was $3xx and they were "claiming" to go as fast 200 km/hr. Interested to see the results of the 'evidence' they can prove.

But yes, serves these idiots right.

[originalhypa]

However, RCMP Supt. Norm Gaumont said police are looking at tougher measures.

"So we've asked our team to be looking at the possibility of criminal charges and ... if we have enough evidence to lay a charge of dangerous driving. We're also going to be looking at seizing the vehicles for good," Gaumont said.



Fuck that french pig.
I want to know who allowed these laws to become so well written that mere speeding justifies taking someone's property? Taking one's personal assets is akin to what autocracies in Africa do. It's what Gaddafi and Hitler did. Taking the assets for offenses against the vehicle code is ludicrous. While I don't condone what these goofs did, I hope their lawyers tear the province a new one, and create a precedent for all of us to fall back on. If not, the crown will continue to take under the guise of "public safety".

[Pharoh]

Fuck that french pig.
I want to know who allowed these laws to become so well written that mere speeding justifies taking someone's property? Taking one's personal assets is akin to what autocracies in Africa do. It's what Gaddafi and Hitler did. Taking the assets for offenses against the vehicle code is ludicrous. While I don't condone what these goofs did, I hope their lawyers tear the province a new one, and create a precedent for all of us to fall back on. If not, the crown will continue to take under the guise of "public safety".

relax, it's most likely just a PR statement. Unless they have hard evidence then I suspect that (sadly) nothing more will happen except the fine and the 7 day wait at mom and dads house

[Geoc]

The law is probably the last thing these kids would be worried about, their parents can hire an army of lawyers to get off free.

They are probably more worried about their parents. I am pretty sure no matter how rich of an Asian you are, your parents always have a beating stick tucked away in the closet.

[Roach]

I don't think they will be seizing property as it sounds like they have no hard evidence.

That being said, I think these kids need a good scare.

Kev

[b92]

its mostly the stupid elderly down here in white rock that call the cops on everyone. Fucking annoying hicks. During near rush hour, I've always driven along hwy 99 back to white rock and I can tell you, everyone drives so fucking slow that its not possible to get near 200kms, most is 120km. Hate rats that try to make someone else day go bad. Those rich kids just gonna buy another expensive car.

[Vale46Rossi]

This is an interesting case to follow; since everything that happens now will be set as a precedence.

I will be interested to see "the group" dispute the ticket and ask for full disclosure to see what evidence do they have on them.

This will be the key to the case and also we will know who is right or wrong.

I would be interested in going to court and watching this case as well!

Since ALL of the "N" drivers will get an auto 3 months suspension (minimum depending on driving record) if the ticket sticks due to 6 points driving without due care + 596 dollar fine.

Should be an interesting case to follow.

[1exotic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odwyeIq7mxs

Bugatti Veyron vs Nissan GTR - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYyPQvp-CtE&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QCOXaW8Xyo&feature=relmfu


:fuckyea:

[b92]

from the picture in the article, the lambo was being towed from a city street, not on the side of HWY99, so they did not get caught in the act

http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2011/09/race1top.jpg

those cars got pulled over along the side of 152nd just in front of semiahmoo mall, price smart and sushi restaurant. I live few blocks away :fullofwin:

[Cr33pUh]

Did the Cops give tickets those who called in and were driving?:troll:

[sonick]

Took this pic a while back, wonder if this was one of them

http://members.shaw.ca/volvoman/index/Pictures/Nikon/lambo.jpg

Bridgeport & #3 Road starbucks :D

[TRDeol]

LOL @ Matt Zhang, hes pictured in the hoodie in the video

[rriggi]

Nissan Skyline GT-R vs Nissan GT-R and Corvette ZR1 vs Nissan GT-R - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odwyeIq7mxs)

Bugatti Veyron vs Nissan GTR - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wA3shjuP-Y)

(HD) McLaren SLR vs Audi RS6 (0-200 km/h) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYyPQvp-CtE&feature=relmfu)

(HD) Audi RS6 (333 km/h) vs Yamaha R6 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QCOXaW8Xyo&feature=relmfu)


:fuckyea:

Considering this is in Russia, I assume these people probably own the police department, and that if any cop did seize these cars they wouldn't be waking up the next morning...

And the GTR with the Wald Black Bison kit is giving me a third leg........

[taylor192]

I want to know who allowed these laws to become so well written that mere speeding justifies taking someone's property? Taking one's personal assets is akin to what autocracies in Africa do. It's what Gaddafi and Hitler did. Taking the assets for offenses against the vehicle code is ludicrous. While I don't condone what these goofs did, I hope their lawyers tear the province a new one, and create a precedent for all of us to fall back on. If not, the crown will continue to take under the guise of "public safety".

Hint: They were NOT mere speeding.

[ed99]

Gallery: The end of the road for street racers (http://www.theprovince.com/mobile/iphone/story.html?id=5340363)

Check it out 19 pics. Anyone recognize any cars here. The matte black r8 looks familiar to the one in the summer meet
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[bloodmack]

I got called in on one before....for "wreckless driving"....the constable gave me verbal shit over the phone trying to scare me :rolleyes:....I told them, that if you're going to charge me, I'd be glad to see everyone in court (all the "witnesses" apparently there was 6 peoples.. )

No charges laid.

I got ticketed like that, some lady did a hit and run in a truck because she was hardcore raging and people started saying i was racing her and shit. So cops came to my place gave me a ticket, douchebag felt big of himself so he told me not to dispute the ticket. :fuckthatshit: disputed and the pig didnt even show up.

[b92]

Gallery: The end of the road for street racers (http://www.theprovince.com/mobile/iphone/story.html?id=5340363)

Check it out 19 pics. Anyone recognize any cars here. The matte black r8 looks familiar to the one in the summer meet
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matt zhang wearin a hoody in 23 degree weather yesterday lmao. Crazy?:fullofwin:

[1exotic]

I got ticketed like that, some lady did a hit and run in a truck because she was hardcore raging and people started saying i was racing her and shit. So cops came to my place gave me a ticket, douchebag felt big of himself so he told me not to dispute the ticket. :fuckthatshit: disputed and the pig didnt even show up.

lol Pigs

http://media.myspacepimper.com/content/gif/animals/animals_115.gif

[parm104]

from the picture in the article, the lambo was being towed from a city street, not on the side of HWY99, so they did not get caught in the act

http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2011/09/race1top.jpg

None of them got caught on Highway 99. They were all stopped on 152nd street near the end of White Rock (Semiamhoo). They were probably heading towards the beach.

[dbaz]

doesnt matter if they were caught speeding with a radar gun or not. they have enough calls to know these kids were doing stupid shit. if the speeding tickets dont seem sufficient because of no actual radar gun they can just give tickets for "stunting".

[Phil@rise]

BWAHAHAHA Three of those cars were at the chevron on garden city when I was fuelin up the corvette yesterday afternoon right before this
An unfortunate side effect, SR may go through some financially tough times as a result of this.

[Harvey Specter]

There's a time and place to act like fools but acting like fools during rush hour in a multiplicity that is controlled by the RCMP isn't one of them.

I really hope the RCMP comes down hard on all the owners because I'm sure some of us have be tailed or cut off by idiots like these guys who think they're in a video game and have no regard for the safety of other drivers and pedestrians.

[ARTSUPRA1]

Confiscating cars - NOT
Suspending license for 1+ year - YES

Cars could get confiscated if drivers are charged with criminal offense, If the calls where made by private citizens and there are no factual evidence for criminal charge then cars won't be taken away.

I am against confiscation and rather see these kids loose their license for a long time. Confiscation is a cheapshot way for province to fill their coffers.

[parm104]

doesnt matter if they were caught speeding with a radar gun or not. they have enough calls to know these kids were doing stupid shit. if the speeding tickets dont seem sufficient because of no actual radar gun they can just give tickets for "stunting".

The point isn't whether it's right or wrong...Well it actually it is...But logistically speaking, the law is the only thing that matters.

So if these kids can afford $100K+ cars...they can afford very expensive lawyers who will be able to use all these loopholes to get them out of any real punishment.

At the end of the day, you can easily dispute a speeding ticket if there wasn't any equipment or a Peace Officer to record and witness the incident in question. The drinking and driving example is different and obviously stupid to even bring up because once someone has given the police reasonable cause to investigate a DUI, they can simply administer a breathalyzer.

You can't administer a speed-a-lizer to see if someone was speeding 20minutes prior to the point where they were pulled over. At the end of the day, we are dealing with a legal system that requires a burden of proof on the part of Crown and reasonable actions will be taken based on what they can prove and what they cannot.

[ed99]

matt zhang wearin a hoody in 23 degree weather yesterday lmao. Crazy?:fullofwin:

Dang first the summer meet and now this.
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[El Bastardo]

Matt Zhang thinks everything he does is so cool, so he wears a hoodie everywhere to keep warm.

[toyobaru]

man i wished i was on the high way. slam my brakes on one of these suckas sue them next then id be the one driving an exotic car...in alot of pain haha

[optiblue]

I hope all their licenses get suspended for driving like douches~ One thing to note, it would really suck if you had a super car and were just cruising in the area that day...

[Groot]

all i can say is
http://www.fistofblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/simpsons_nelson_haha2.jpg

[ecsw]

$300,000 Ferrari and BMW Seized for Speeding up for Auction | Helablog (http://helablog.com/2010/11/300000-ferrari-and-bmw-seized-for-speeding-now-up-for-auction/)

time to hit the auction? lol
They should not allow to get license at all.

[gars]

The point isn't whether it's right or wrong...Well it actually it is...But logistically speaking, the law is the only thing that matters.

So if these kids can afford $100K+ cars...they can afford very expensive lawyers who will be able to use all these loopholes to get them out of any real punishment.

At the end of the day, you can easily dispute a speeding ticket if there wasn't any equipment or a Peace Officer to record and witness the incident in question. The drinking and driving example is different and obviously stupid to even bring up because once someone has given the police reasonable cause to investigate a DUI, they can simply administer a breathalyzer.

You can't administer a speed-a-lizer to see if someone was speeding 20minutes prior to the point where they were pulled over. At the end of the day, we are dealing with a legal system that requires a burden of proof on the part of Crown and reasonable actions will be taken based on what they can prove and what they cannot.

Was the Ferrari/M3 driving up Seymour caught on radar/laser? Or was it solely based on witness testimony?

[Gh0stRider]

Mattzhang LOL
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[parm104]

Was the Ferrari/M3 driving up Seymour caught on radar/laser? Or was it solely based on witness testimony?

It was an M6...I don't know too many people, if any, that would race their M3 against a Scuderia...

And yes, they were not only clocked prior to being stopped but in addition, they had aerial footage of the two racing.

[kookoobird88]

vancouver is getting flooded with more and more mainlanders every year. all buying there kids 100K + cars 8/10 super cars I see has a N with a mainlander , not too mention they are buying 5+ houses at a time, leaving not many houses for people who have been here their whole lives, if not that they just out bit them

[Rogue951]

N Drivers should have a horsepower limit.

Thanks to you idiot speeders for making the rest of us young asian guys look even worse.

I hope the cars get crushed.

[drunkhomer]

let's just deport matt zhang back to the mainland

[Tai Chi]

Video: BC Daily Buzz - Luxury Cars Impounded (http://www.bcdailybuzz.com/media/8784/Luxury_cars_impounded/)

Richmond Review - Teens in speeding Lamborghinis, Maseratis face fines (http://www.bclocalnews.com/richmond_southdelta/richmondreview/news/128886793.html)

[dignatas]

I doubt they will auction all those cars but from the sounds of it, they are going to review their license which probably means revoking it.

[E_Fahlman]

If they were in rice'd out honda's and acura's they wouldve never got caught but the fact they were all in supercars left them pretty disginguishable
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[firebird79_00]

Heres what i dont get, They said the driver of the Audi R8 contacted them telling the story wasnt correct. He said some were going over 200km/h, but they were only keeping up with them. If your keeping up with them, that means your doing 200km/h. Some people :fulloffuck:

[Great68]

Hint: They were NOT mere speeding.

The police better have hard evidence to prove otherwise.

[Tim Budong]

Was the Ferrari/M3 driving up Seymour caught on radar/laser? Or was it solely based on witness testimony?

i think they were clocked by the rader

this instance, they were not, so as much as u can throw the book, there is no hard evidence of what the actual speeds were
regardless. Suspend their licenses but if they were to confiscate the vehicles, its going to waste taxpayers money because these kids probably will have lawyers at bay ready to fight to get the car back.

[Hondaracer]

Just on global national:

"the owner of the R8 contacted global to set the record straight, he said himself and a few of the other vehicles were simply following the group and were not involved in the speeding"

....after seeing the pictures of the drivers oh how bad I want to make over the top racist remarks..
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[EM1]

Though it is hard to prove that they were actually doing 200+km/h, Global National tonight just said that the owner of the Audi R8 contacted Global and admitted that some of them were easily doing over 200km/h but that he was just an innocent bystander cruising with them.... at 200km/h, of course, in order to cruise with them.

So... there you have it.

[racerman88]

should be interesting to see what happens to them

[Geoc]

Heres what i dont get, They said the driver of the Audi R8 contacted them telling the story wasnt correct. He said some were going over 200km/h, but they were only keeping up with them. If your keeping up with them, that means your doing 200km/h. Some people :fulloffuck:

Did mattzhang just accidentally testified that they were excessively speeding? LOL

[TOS'd]

^ cause hes a nice guy, he just wanted to set the record straight and pint out he wasnt leading the pack. Just a follower.

[parm104]

let's just deport matt zhang back to the mainland

It's idiots like you that shouldn't be able to post on issues like this. Your prejudices or stereotypes towards a group of people should have no weight on the punishment or repercussions that you think these people should face. That is of course if you're a reasonable, logical person, which you clearly aren't...

Regardless of the vehicle make, model or engine, regardless of the driver's age, ethnicity or religion, the punishment should be the same throughout the board for all people that commit this crime. It looks to me like the public is demanding for a harsher penalty for these guys to teach them a lesson. The lesson is meant to be the same for everyone that commits the infraction. Whether they chose to learn from it is on their own merit.

[Datsun]

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee40/vpfreemrusername/disgunbgud1-1.gif

[Hondaracer]

It's idiots like you that shouldn't be able to post on issues like this. Your prejudices or stereotypes towards a group of people should have no weight on the punishment or repercussions that you think these people should face. That is of course if you're a reasonable, logical person, which you clearly aren't...

Regardless of the vehicle make, model or engine, regardless of the driver's age, ethnicity or religion, the punishment should be the same throughout the board for all people that commit this crime. It looks to me like the public is demanding for a harsher penalty for these guys to teach them a lesson. The lesson is meant to be the same for everyone that commits the infraction. Whether they chose to learn from it is on their own merit.

When your going 200+ with an N on the back I think the punishment should be a little more severe
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[Tim Budong]

MattZhang just fucked this whole thing up by going to the media. shoulda just stay quiet.

[JSALES]

LOL fucking idiots!

[parm104]

When your going 200+ with an N on the back I think the punishment should be a little more severe
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Agreed....But this guy suggested that we get ICBC and Canada Border Services to work together as form of "little more severe punishment."

[E_Fahlman]

I wonder if this at all is going to have a negative impact on MCL or SR Auto Group's reputations in the luxury car world
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[Hondaracer]

Yup you're right..."a little more severe." You suggested that we get ICBC and Canada Border Services to work together as your form of "little more severe punishment."

That's your defence for suggesting to deport one of them...:thumbsup:

That wasn't me that suggested that..with that said maybe I'm not against it
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[parm104]

That wasn't me that suggested that..with that said maybe I'm not against it
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LOL I stand corrected! Sorry.

[StylinRed]

Is Jacob Ung on revscene? was just on CBC talking about bringing these things to the track etc


anyhow only 1 of those 13 drivers was the registered owner of the car and another was driving on a foreign license

showed an asian guy holding a giant purse looked so wrong

[Valour]

So with no photo or radar evidence, no damage to personal property, police can seize $2 mil worth of personal property.

BUT with 50-100 or so mostly white HA riding their motorbikes reving loud exhaust disturbing traffic - 0 charges, pussy out hiding in their cruisers

BUT with 100+ mostly white cyclists blocking traffic every Friday afternoon rush hour with no due consideration or whatever bullshit NO CHARGES, NO SEIZURES

BUT WITH photo evidence of a young WHITE male with molotov cocktail in hand burning a police car AND a confession - 0 charges laid, $0 personal property seized or held.

Fuck the POLICE! When did rich chinese get treated like Compton blacks?

PS don't speed or u will die

PPS this is a civil liberties issue, not a pro rich boy issue

[Graeme S]

So, correct me if I'm wrong, but don't most of those superexotics have Navi units? And the geeteeahhlo has a bunch of funky loggers and whatnot, right? Given that they seized the car and issued tickets, this sounds to me as thogugh a judge would most likely grant a warrant for access to the data loggers, right? Cheap shitty car = no fancy tech = no evidence; expensive car of win = fancy shiznizzle = busted!
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[tr0ubl3s0m3x]

Looks like translink just got a few more customers! Haha what a bunch of spoiled kids. Is it just me or does the next generation look look bleek? Lots of teens(18,19) think they're entitled to something these days. IE. Having a driver's license. Bad parenting ftl.
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[tgeo]

I agree with Rogue. Licenses should be also based on displacement.

L & N Drivers ---- allowed to drive <2.0 Litres 4 Cylinders
<5 Years driving ---- up to 3.0 Litre 4 Cylinder
6-8 Years driving ---- limited up to 6 cyclinder
8+ Years driving ---- unlimited

Or some something like that...

I would love to see an Audi R8 with a VW 1.8T or a Ferrari with a Fiat 500 engine.

And traffic fines should be based on price of your car... If your driving around in a $100,000+ Car then you should pay more for your fine. eg. $15,000
If you are caught speeding in your Yugo(if you could do the speed limit) your fine would be considerable less.

The fine is to deter you from doing it again. Correct?

Sorry for the RANT... Also the L and N should be larger.

Hell I have 2 Driving teenagers(1 L and 1N) They are allowed to drive sub 2.0l cars in the garage. No way are they driving the V8s. I guess I care about them and the drivers around them. That being said maybe the 13 drivers parents don't give a shit on what their children are doing.

T.

[LP700-4]

Looks like translink just got a few more customers! Haha what a bunch of spoiled kids. Is it just me or does the next generation look look bleek? Lots of teens(18,19) think they're entitled to something these days. IE. Having a driver's license. Bad parenting ftl.
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I dont think any of these guys only have 1 accessible car. Only the car is impounded not license suspended right?

[JSALES]

hope they suffer more consequences

[AznFlipOut604]

Is this matt zhang character seriously retarded? He comes up with the worst excuses everytime

[AWDTurboLuvr]

I doubt their parents know what they are doing...considering a few of the drivers live in my building or next door (the orange Superleggera, Gold GTR, SLS) and their parents aren't here.

Ironically, I live quite close to SR.

[7seven]

Just on global national:

"the owner of the R8 contacted global to set the record straight, he said himself and a few of the other vehicles were simply following the group and were not involved in the speeding"

....after seeing the pictures of the drivers oh how bad I want to make over the top racist remarks..
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:facepalm: :seriously: I am seriously getting sick of this kid MattZhang and his excuses, 1st it was oh I let other people drive like idiots in my car, now its he was only following the other idiots??? I could care less if he was nice to offer other RS members the opportunity to drive his car, its your vehicle take responsibility for it.

And stop with the excuses, your car is pretty recognizable and I have personally witnessed you drive like an idiot in city traffic before cutting people off nearly causing an accident...or are you going to claim it was someone else driving your car, that oddly enough looked a lot like you in the Global news footage.

[nns]

All you guys getting raging about possible civil forfeiture, it's not a done deal. It's just a possibility.

You guys should be upset towards the lawmakers who granted the powers to the police, not the police themselves.

[k3mps]

I agree with Rogue. Licenses should be also based on displacement.

L & N Drivers ---- allowed to drive <2.0 Litres 4 Cylinders
<5 Years driving ---- up to 3.0 Litre 4 Cylinder
6-8 Years driving ---- limited up to 6 cyclinder
8+ Years driving ---- unlimited

Or some something like that...

I would love to see an Audi R8 with a VW 1.8T or a Ferrari with a Fiat 500 engine.

And traffic fines should be based on price of your car... If your driving around in a $100,000+ Car then you should pay more for your fine. eg. $15,000
If you are caught speeding in your Yugo(if you could do the speed limit) your fine would be considerable less.

The fine is to deter you from doing it again. Correct?

Sorry for the RANT... Also the L and N should be larger.

Hell I have 2 Driving teenagers(1 L and 1N) They are allowed to drive sub 2.0l cars in the garage. No way are they driving the V8s. I guess I care about them and the drivers around them. That being said maybe the 13 drivers parents don't give a shit on what their children are doing.

T.


I think your limits are a bit unfair. (which i assume you would be more negotiable)

#1 I sold my car, and i drive my family car. It's got a 2.5 V6 in it. According to this logic, I would not be allowed to drive to work / school. I'm not alone. This would prohibit teens from driving their family cars (if they only have 1 car) if they were V8's. I've got a friend who's only family car is a V8 Cherokee

#2 Limiting the displacement / cylinders does not limit the performance of a car. Yes you see civics with 1.8 4's with 140 w.e horsepower, but there are also 2L cars are push upwards of 300- who knows how much power

#3 Some people NEED larger displacements. If you were in the construction industry or w.e industry would require a truck for work, It would be near impossible to find an adequate truck for work if you only have 3/4 years of driving experience

As far as your fine theory, I COMPLETELY agree. In fact many countries already do this; where you get fined based on either (correct me if I'm wrong) your salary or the value of your car.
I believe it's your salary...

[Carl Johnson]

So with no photo or radar evidence, no damage to personal property, police can seize $2 mil worth of personal property.

BUT with 50-100 or so mostly white HA riding their motorbikes reving loud exhaust disturbing traffic - 0 charges, pussy out hiding in their cruisers

BUT with 100+ mostly white cyclists blocking traffic every Friday afternoon rush hour with no due consideration or whatever bullshit NO CHARGES, NO SEIZURES

BUT WITH photo evidence of a young WHITE male with molotov cocktail in hand burning a police car AND a confession - 0 charges laid, $0 personal property seized or held.

Fuck the POLICE! When did rich chinese get treated like Compton blacks?

PS don't speed or u will die

PPS this is a civil liberties issue, not a pro rich boy issue

When you are driving like a bunch of maniacs on public road 3 in the afternoon going 200km/hr or just speed that put others in danger, unfortunately you put yourself in a very vulnerable position. In this case it just happened to be young Asian kids, I doubt the police would've reacted any different if it was White kids or EI kids.

Although there was no damage to any individual or property, this thing had the all the ingredients (driver's age, N, vehicle, speed, time of day...) in becoming a really bad accident. That is what the police is looking at.

[doma]

So with no photo or radar evidence, no damage to personal property, police can seize $2 mil worth of personal property.

BUT with 50-100 or so mostly white HA riding their motorbikes reving loud exhaust disturbing traffic - 0 charges, pussy out hiding in their cruisers

BUT with 100+ mostly white cyclists blocking traffic every Friday afternoon rush hour with no due consideration or whatever bullshit NO CHARGES, NO SEIZURES

BUT WITH photo evidence of a young WHITE male with molotov cocktail in hand burning a police car AND a confession - 0 charges laid, $0 personal property seized or held.

Fuck the POLICE! When did rich chinese get treated like Compton blacks?

PS don't speed or u will die

PPS this is a civil liberties issue, not a pro rich boy issue

:fulloffuck: :fulloffuck:

How can you compare a cyclist with a speeding supercar??

and when did this become a whites v chinese thread....

[hypediss]

fucking retarded excuse

if your friends decides to jump off the building will you follow him?


one thing im pretty sure everyone's po'd about is the lack of respect these individuals have for the public and the authorities

these guys need a lesson thats not based on money

[Hondaracer]

the funniest part like 7seven mentioned is how many times the idiot has defended his driving and his actions here, in the spotted thread, etc. now this

I swear he phoned global just because he knew revscene would catch onto it lol

[124Y]

Moar pics from Vansky :fullofwin::

http://i54.tinypic.com/20ggrwo.jpg

LOLOL fucking MM Design
http://i55.tinypic.com/35j02le.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/of0pzt.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/2jfkcqf.jpg

http://i51.tinypic.com/alotp4.jpg

[impulse777]

5 min to write a post and my point has been covered. Data logging could reveal what went on....

[ImportXxX]

i like how msn phrase it...lol

Rich kids prove our driving laws are backwards - Sympatico.ca Autos (http://autos.sympatico.ca/waste-gate/9606/rich-kids-prove-our-driving-laws-are-backwards/3)

[parm104]

5 min to write a post and my point has been covered. Data logging could reveal what went on....

I don't believe data logging works that way...A data logger has the ability to record a certain amount of information. For us to expect that a car's computer has the hardware to allow it to record a unlimited amount of data such as car's speed at any given time, would be far-fetched.

I know for sure that a data logger will indefinitely record when something triggers it to do so. ie: a fault code, a rapid change in wheel speed (whether it's up or down), and of course in the case of a collision.

I'm not saying that the data logger doesn't record speeds but what I am saying is that since there was no collision involved here, and we don't know exactly how much time has passed since they were allegedly going 200+Km/hr to the point where they stopped, a data-logger could not/will not be used. It's not possible for you to search the data-logger to see what speed the car was going and Y time unless something instigated the car's computer to save it.

Also, there are privacy issues when it comes to using the data logger in court and for the judge to rule that the data logger evidence is admissible in court, would require some extreme, perhaps tragic event to have occurred. Fortunately that did not happen here and for a judge to allow data logging evidence based on citizen, eye-witness testimony saying that these guys were speeding in excess of 200km/hr would simply not be sufficient in court. At the end of the day, the data-logger and the data stored in there is under the sole ownership of the owner of the vehicle.

[niu99]

mainlanders balling out of controll

[PornMaster]

Hopefully they learn there lesson before its to late

I am pretty sure all of us when we where young they would get the urge to speed.

After a couple car accidents (not my fault), I realized how dangerous cars can be and slowed the fuck down. I don't want to injure and cause bodily harm to others.

[PiuYi]

vancouver is getting flooded with more and more mainlanders every year. all buying there kids 100K + cars 8/10 super cars I see has a N with a mainlander , not too mention they are buying 5+ houses at a time, leaving not many houses for people who have been here their whole lives, if not that they just out bit them

for every 1 richass mainlander driving 100k car, i know 10 mainlanders that come here for school, work twice as hard as the average student, and drive their parents' second hand corolla. please don't think of these guys as a "typical mainlander"

When your going 200+ with an N on the back I think the punishment should be a little more severe
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because going 200+ with a full license is less dangerous?
endangering people's lives should be punished severely no matter the license type

[Harvey Specter]

Anyone down for a "Gone in Sixty Seconds" heist?

[k3mps]

Anyone down for a "Gone in Sixty Seconds" heist?

we need a black guy and a barbie

[vvd]

The law is probably the last thing these kids would be worried about, their parents can hire an army of lawyers to get off free.

They are probably more worried about their parents. I am pretty sure no matter how rich of an Asian you are, your parents always have a beating stick tucked away in the closet.

Regardless of whether or not they have a beating stick tucked away, if they actually dusted it off and used it once in a while I don't think this thread would be in existence. lol

[Volvo-brickster]

we need a black guy and a barbie

Gone IN 60 Seconds Dolls Dance - YouTube

[jimmerz]

http://i55.tinypic.com/35j02le.jpg
this thing looks hideous
i guess the other guys were just going 200 just to get away from being seen with it

[falcon]

I see this car at UBC all the time.

http://www.driving.ca/vancouversun/5340479.bin?size=620x400

I bet there is more to the story than what they are saying. A few years ago when I had my Skyline I was at a meet and we were cruising back to Coquitlam from Mission on the #1. No excessive speeding, more like cruising in a convoy at like 100-110. Sure over the limit but not racing... Anyways, long story short a road block was set up in Coquitlam and everyone was all accused of racing. Supposedly they had a "tip" come in that we were racing (and I reaffirm again, there was no racing going on). After a bunch of sweet talking and basically telling them they had no proof and to go f off. Eventually they did and we went on our merry way. Same type of thing could have been happening here? Or they could have been racing... I just have such a hard time believing the media anymore or cops. At the end of they day... sucks for them!... lolz

Based on this quote, my comment above stands in whether anything happened other than hearsay...

RCMP Supt. Norm Gaumont: "I know there's a lot of disappointment, wondering why we only charged them with an offence of $196. They fact of the matter is, we have to look at all the evidence we have and what we're able to prove."

[.Renn.Sport]

bunch of haters like always here...

these guys probably pay more taxes from sales tax than you all combined in income tax
all these fucks do in canada is spend money, nice way to treat the ppl that keeps the economy growing

either way, the cars are just pocket change to them and most of them will be back to china in a year or two.

[falcon]

o shit son! I recognize these numbers on the windshield from a certain track day not long ago....

http://www.driving.ca/vancouversun/5341810.bin?size=620x400

[LP700-4]

WTF is it just me or is the car becoming partially shiny?

[cressydrift]

Is it true that they were running a 2 car rolling road block so the cars ahead could race?

[Chin.Up]

WTF is it just me or is the car becoming partially shiny?

That's cause that part of the hood isn't vinyled.

[Manic!]

I agree with Rogue. Licenses should be also based on displacement.

L & N Drivers ---- allowed to drive <2.0 Litres 4 Cylinders
<5 Years driving ---- up to 3.0 Litre 4 Cylinder
6-8 Years driving ---- limited up to 6 cyclinder
8+ Years driving ---- unlimited

Or some something like that...

I would love to see an Audi R8 with a VW 1.8T or a Ferrari with a Fiat 500 engine.

And traffic fines should be based on price of your car... If your driving around in a $100,000+ Car then you should pay more for your fine. eg. $15,000
If you are caught speeding in your Yugo(if you could do the speed limit) your fine would be considerable less.

The fine is to deter you from doing it again. Correct?

Sorry for the RANT... Also the L and N should be larger.

Hell I have 2 Driving teenagers(1 L and 1N) They are allowed to drive sub 2.0l cars in the garage. No way are they driving the V8s. I guess I care about them and the drivers around them. That being said maybe the 13 drivers parents don't give a shit on what their children are doing.

T.
So you have to wait 8 years to become a truck driver? and it would be o.k. for a person with an N to drive Lotus elise or a Turboed Civic but a Ford pickup would be not OK. How does that make sense?

you deserve 100 :failed:'S

[some_punk]

o shit son! I recognize these numbers on the windshield from a certain track day not long ago....

http://www.driving.ca/vancouversun/5341810.bin?size=620x400

i also remember a certain 323 hatchback keeping up with this r8

[TOS'd]

WTF is it just me or is the car becoming partially shiny?

the matte wrap on the hood was coming off or something so he removed it or something.

[falcon]

I don't believe data logging works that way...A data logger has the ability to record a certain amount of information. For us to expect that a car's computer has the hardware to allow it to record a unlimited amount of data such as car's speed at any given time, would be far-fetched.

I know for sure that a data logger will indefinitely record when something triggers it to do so. ie: a fault code, a rapid change in wheel speed (whether it's up or down), and of course in the case of a collision.

I'm not saying that the data logger doesn't record speeds but what I am saying is that since there was no collision involved here, and we don't know exactly how much time has passed since they were allegedly going 200+Km/hr to the point where they stopped, a data-logger could not/will not be used. It's not possible for you to search the data-logger to see what speed the car was going and Y time unless something instigated the car's computer to save it.

Also, there are privacy issues when it comes to using the data logger in court and for the judge to rule that the data logger evidence is admissible in court, would require some extreme, perhaps tragic event to have occurred. Fortunately that did not happen here and for a judge to allow data logging evidence based on citizen, eye-witness testimony saying that these guys were speeding in excess of 200km/hr would simply not be sufficient in court. At the end of the day, the data-logger and the data stored in there is under the sole ownership of the owner of the vehicle.

Problem with this, is I recognize one of those cars from a track day I was at in August. Unless it can differentiate the time and dosen't just say "max speed ever seen" it's useless.

[Raid3n]

as far as restricting what type of cars you can drive in the GLP, we could always use a similar program like australia's 'P' plates...

[1exotic]

I agree with Rogue. Licenses should be also based on displacement.

L & N Drivers ---- allowed to drive <2.0 Litres 4 Cylinders
<5 Years driving ---- up to 3.0 Litre 4 Cylinder
6-8 Years driving ---- limited up to 6 cyclinder
8+ Years driving ---- unlimited

Or some something like that...

I would love to see an Audi R8 with a VW 1.8T or a Ferrari with a Fiat 500 engine.

And traffic fines should be based on price of your car... If your driving around in a $100,000+ Car then you should pay more for your fine. eg. $15,000
If you are caught speeding in your Yugo(if you could do the speed limit) your fine would be considerable less.

The fine is to deter you from doing it again. Correct?

Sorry for the RANT... Also the L and N should be larger.

Hell I have 2 Driving teenagers(1 L and 1N) They are allowed to drive sub 2.0l cars in the garage. No way are they driving the V8s. I guess I care about them and the drivers around them. That being said maybe the 13 drivers parents don't give a shit on what their children are doing.

T.

flawless logic mate

[Culture_Vulture]

bunch of haters like always here...

these guys probably pay more taxes from sales tax than you all combined in income tax
all these fucks do in canada is spend money, nice way to treat the ppl that keeps the economy growing

either way, the cars are just pocket change to them and most of them will be back to china in a year or two.
so why weren't you there with them keeping our economy growing?
oh right, your Yaris can't hit 200 =/!

[StylinRed]

either way, the cars are just pocket change to them and most of them will be back to china in a year or two.

No they won't be going back the whole reason their parents sent them here is so that if the dad gets arrested in China for corruption the kid will at least be safe (since the whole family gets arrested/jailed in china)

[EM1]

bunch of haters like always here...

these guys probably pay more taxes from sales tax than you all combined in income tax
all these fucks do in canada is spend money, nice way to treat the ppl that keeps the economy growing

either way, the cars are just pocket change to them and most of them will be back to china in a year or two.

What the hell is your point? Everything you said is so stupid. Because you have money, you should be treated like royalty even if you've put people's lives in danger?

[StylinRed]

What the hell is your point? Everything you said is so stupid. Because you have money, you should be treated like royalty even if you've put people's lives in danger?

That's because he lives in Asia and he thinks that attitude applies here in Canada as well
He didn't learn (because he's an idiot) is that that attitude reaches boiling points and you get revolutions


What I believe should be done with this is to force everyone of these guys to attend 8hr a day classes that preach responsible driving for about a month/until you pass (like they do in the USA)

and to scale fines based on wealth like they do in some parts of Europe

Im fine with seizing vehicles as long as the circumstances of the seizure can be proven

[parm104]

What the hell is your point? Everything you said is so stupid. Because you have money, you should be treated like royalty even if you've put people's lives in danger?

That isn't at all what he's saying...If you read the comments in this thread, you would realize his response was to those people who were saying that these guys should pay MORE fines than the AVERAGE person driving the AVERAGE car for committing the SAME crime...

No where did he say that these people deserve special treatment or exemptions to the law.

Your response my friend, is stupid as you COMPLETELY missed his point. When people suggest that these guys HAVE MORE thus should PAY MORE, he simply stated that they already are...Which in THAT SENSE, he is absolutely right...They already do pay more in car luxury taxes and insurance...So now they should pay MORE for fines when the rest of the public pays a different, lesser fine for doing the same wrong thing??

That doesn't make any sense. The law is equal to all those under it and these guys should receive the same punishment anyone else would receive in the same situation.

[PornMaster]

180-mph ride could bring huge fine (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38660951/ns/world_news-europe/t/swede-could-face-huge-speeding-fine/)

should be like switz based on income and offence.

if you guys read further in article
In January, a Swiss court slapped a $290,000 speeding ticket on a millionaire Ferrari driver who drove 60 mph (nearly twice the 30 mph limit) through a small village.

[StylinRed]

^^ scaled fines work perfectly well overseas

[4doorVIP]

Did all these kids attend dragon driving school?

[ptrinh]

the matte black audi was at the meet

[taylor192]

his response was to those people who were saying that these guys should pay MORE fines than the AVERAGE person driving the AVERAGE car for committing the SAME crime...

That doesn't make any sense. The law is equal to all those under it and these guys should receive the same punishment anyone else would receive in the same situation.

Depends how the law defines "equal". Many countries levy fines based on ability to pay. Why? Cause the fine should hurt "equally", not really hurt poor people and only be pennies to a rich person.

It makes perfect sense. A small fine to a wealthy person isn't much of a punishment, so what has the law achieved?

[rJZx]

i bet matt zhang is gonna make a new account... and he is gonna his account name somehow related to his car or name :facepalm: