[Ronith]

So easy to trash Lil Wayne, but do you really know how many lives he's touched?

Are you fucking serious?

The only people who look up to him his trash. Trashy people.

And who gives a fuck how much other people make?

If you want to be as rich as them, log off Revscene and do something.

[Jason00S2000]

Are you fucking serious?

The only people who look up to him his trash. Trashy people.



:rukidding:


Anyone with his work ethic I can respect, and even admire.

[Mr.Money]

:rukidding:


Anyone with his work ethic I can respect, and even admire.

yeah,& the same goes for a Colombian drug lord who makes 20 million a day :suspicious:

[Akinari]

Why does this thread still exist...

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

yeah,& the same goes for a Colombian drug lord who makes 20 million a day :suspicious:

you couldn't be a colombian drug lord if your life depended on it, and they gave you 1000 lives to try.

[Mr.Money]

you couldn't be a colombian drug lord if your life depended on it, and they gave you 1000 lives to try.

http://i48.tinypic.com/2ed8rv9.gif who said i was again? :derp: No i'm batman my life depends on it.

[Jason00S2000]

Why does this thread still exist...

I think this is an entertaining conversation.

Many people on this forum like fast cars, money, fine dining, hot chicks, and a little joshing of each other. Perhaps even some healthy ball-busting.

Maybe you'd prefer a brony thread, Pikachu?

[Manic!]

:rukidding:


Anyone with his work ethic I can respect, and even admire.

The dudes of cough syrup and other drugs 24/7.

[Jason00S2000]

The dudes of cough syrup and other drugs 24/7.

So many of the world's greatest musicians, actors, painters, and countless other creative people (have) use(d) substances to enhance cognitive ability.

:hat:

[Energy]

After you mentioned Lil Wayne I really don't want to know who these great musicians, actors, painters and other creative people of yours are :facepalm:

[Gridlock]

you couldn't be a colombian drug lord if your life depended on it, and they gave you 1000 lives to try.

Lol. It would be fine. Just keep introducing yourself as "I'm not DEA"

[PJ]

Honestly man, I've argued, and fought, and tried to promote a different idea of how to live. But in the end, I'm cheering for you to go somewhere with this. I'd rather see you make it, in order to prove to myself that maybe my way isn't the only way. I've become a bit jaded seeing a lot of my friends either fail or accept their fate. You're one of the few individuals who I've seen rise from humble beginnings and really achieve some success in your field. Along with having a hell of a lot of cool experiences along the way.

Who knows.
If you make it, that might be the inspiration I need to leave my job and get that law degree I've always wanted.


Much respect.

Honestly, I have tons of respect for anyone who devotes countless amounts of time into a dream.
Writers, performers, athletes, artists, etc, don't pick up their skills or perfect their crafts overnight. It takes months, years, and not uncommonly, decades.
It's something they just do out of passion.

Through reading this (entertaining) thread, Jason's outlook and plan might actually be outlandish and crazy enough to work.

Back on-topic, I personally know a writer of a certain e-book that makes six figures a month. A month! Mind you, he is a genius when it comes to SEO, PPC, and all that jazz.

@Jason, I just signed with a new agent. Looks like we'll be having a good ol' fashioned battle of traditional vs self-pub.
I have an odd feeling, that, given the millions of daily click-through rates on porn sites, your plan may be more feasible than we thought.

[Akinari]

I think this is an entertaining conversation.

Many people on this forum like fast cars, money, fine dining, hot chicks, and a little joshing of each other. Perhaps even some healthy ball-busting.

Maybe you'd prefer a brony thread, Pikachu?
Oh god, anything but bronies

[Ronith]

:rukidding:


Anyone with his work ethic I can respect, and even admire.

That is pathetic

[Manic!]

So many of the world's greatest musicians, actors, painters, and countless other creative people (have) use(d) substances to enhance cognitive ability.

:hat:

99% of his music is crap. Anyone who makes as much music as he does is bound to have a few hits.

[PJ]

99% of his music is crap. Anyone who makes as much music as he does is bound to have a few hits.

It's interesting how the music industry has changed.

Lil Wayne is using the scatter-shot technique. He puts out hundreds and hundreds of songs, and hopes that a few will be blockbusters and score those big royalty checks. To play devil's advocate... he did put in the time to write and record them all.

Sadly, that technique is more effective nowadays to achieve fame and fortune. 100 sub-par songs will gain more traction than a few well-written songs. Quantity over quality.

[Hondaracer]

"Artists" like Wayne don't even make their own shit they buy beats and get people to write the songs, it's a viscous cycle of "gettin money like a mothafucka"

These talentless hacks just ride the coat tails of their buddies until they have enough money to start buying their own music, Wayne to Birdman and so forth
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[payrent]

Almost every song I listened to by Lil'Wayne its just constant repetition of nigga.

I dont think nigga rhymes with nigga.

[Jason00S2000]

Man, it sucks to see so much hatred directed towards someone successful.


http://www.mr-uploads.com/reddit/yababy.jpeg


The fact is, no matter what you're successful at, you will have people who hate you. Even if you work at Lordco, there will be that one delivery driver who wants to take a shit on your face and rape your dog.

[Ludepower]

This thread is about making money like a mutha fucka...why are we hating on how people made their riches?

Luck, brains, inheritance, natural talents, drugs, white-collar crimes, etc...Who gives a fuck how they got it.
We can all learn how they earned it and how they plan to maintain or build on it.

[PJ]

The fact is, no matter what you're successful at, you will have people who hate you. Even if you work at Lordco, there will be that one delivery driver who wants to take a shit on your face and rape your dog.

Haters gon' hate. Skaters gon' skate.

Congrats on the printed novel. Regardless of what people say, you told yourself you were going to do something, and you did it. Can't hate on that.

Also, I just heard back from my agent about a meeting with RHC.
Maybe we'll see each other on the bestsellers list. :D

[GLOW]

This thread is about making money like a mutha fucka...why are we hating on how people made their riches?


lets turn the negativity in this thread upside down

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/bender_haters,gonna_hate_gif.gif
http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/9/9e/697.gif

seriously though, whether or not your book is awesome or sucks, is a hit or a flop, at least you were able to accomplish your goal and do something not everyone can say they have done.

congrats jason.

[knight604]

Are you balling yet?

[Jason00S2000]

Inspirational music for an artist

The ILLZ "Closer" (Official Audio) - YouTube

Get that money!

[kunoman1]

I've lurked all 11 pages of this thread, congrats on the book Jason
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[neggo]

It is in human nature to get butt hurt when someone they know ends up making it and becomes successful. Rather than focus on themselves, they focus on others and try to bring them down. They say, "that could've been me". Indeed, it could definitely be you if you spent more time being inspired by the success of other people rather than getting mad, wondering why it wasn't you. The success of other people will not deter another from also achieving success.

Jason, props to you!
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[PJ]

It is in human nature to get butt hurt when someone they know ends up making it and becomes successful. Rather than focus on themselves, they focus on others and try to bring them down. They say, "that could've been me". Indeed, it could definitely be you if you spent more time being inspired by the success of other people rather than getting mad, wondering why it wasn't you. The success of other people will not deter another from also achieving success.


Exactly.

My old piano teacher's favourite quotes were,

"Time spent worrying about what others think is right, can be better spent working on what you think is right."

and

"It takes a sprinter more effort to look over his shoulder, than it takes for him to keep sprinting."

It's so easy to criticize writers, actors, musicians, athletes, whatever.
But they're the ones who are out there actually doing it.

Even the people that are commonly hated. Tucker Max, Stephanie Meyer, Bieber, Minaj, whoever.
They all had to start somewhere, and had to make themselves to do it.

Max and Meyer had to sit down and actually put time and effort into writing their books and finding agents.
Bieber learned guitar and piano on his own time, and Minaj wrote/recorded her early demos by herself.
Whether you like it or not, doing those things take time and devotion.
Those books and music styles aren't my cup of tea, but how can you hate on people who put themselves out there and became successful in doing so?

Sure, luck plays a part. But you can't say everyone who made it just got lucky.

[diesel_test]

Inspirational music for an artist

The ILLZ "Closer" (Official Audio) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VKJ_Ax6th8)

Get that money!

Bro, you don't need that $$$!

I am much happier and live a more fulfilling life when i don't have money:fullofwin:

[Jason00S2000]

Bro, you don't need that $$$!

I am much happier and live a more fulfilling life when i don't have money:fullofwin:


Money is like mana to a bipolar wizard of creation


I cannot summon my dreams without that power

[diesel_test]

Money is like mana to a bipolar wizard of creation


I cannot summon my dreams without that power

well, i value life experiences > making $$$

[Jason00S2000]

well, i value life experiences > making $$$

For someone who has to make their own money, they are one and the same


The one thing I have finally overcome, is the fear of change. (for better or worse)

[diesel_test]

For someone who has to make their own money, they are one and the same


The one thing I have finally overcome, is the fear of change. (for better or worse)

$$$ doesn't really make any difference.

Yes, family is rich but even if they are making 1million+, they live like anyone making 50k and aren't GIVING anything anytime soon.

at the time being im living on 20k per year and im happy! :D that is until i figure what i really wanna do

[Jason00S2000]

at the time being im living on 20k per year and im happy! :D that is until i figure what i really wanna do


Buy an EPIC camera for 25k and travel the world capturing insane shit.

If I were a young mofo with rich parents, I would borrow the cash to get an EPIC camera

EPIC (http://www.red.com/products/epic)

and I would go here:

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy287/stevep1031/San%20Diego%20Balboa%20Museums/_MG_0143.jpg


Then I would probably make other cool travel videos, and perfect my ability to show extreme environments to people. Maybe take the EPIC to Everest!

[Jason00S2000]

Also, you would get laid by hot chicks everywhere

[diesel_test]

Also, you would get laid by hot chicks everywhere

i have a long-term gf now, yes its tempting for sure but im much better off being in a relationship than go hunting for 10 chicks per month. :D

[GabAlmighty]

It's also nice knowing you have a fall back

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

Money is like mana to a bipolar wizard of creation


I cannot summon my dreams without that power

hahahahahaa quote of the year.

[Vansterdam]

totally down :fullofwin:
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[prznali]

To be honest money makes a difference, but up to a certain income ... It also depends on your own aspirations and what you wanna do in life, because for a majority of things anybody would want in life they will need money to do it ..

its kinda sad but this is the reality of our society

[Jason00S2000]

its kinda sad but this is the reality of our society


Maaaan, we live in such awesome times, comparitively!


You have a dream? As long as you have the cash and/or willpower you can make it happen!

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

some people's dreams are that cash should disappear, so that they don't need to have a dream to feel like life has meaning lol.

[Hondaracer]

Always pictured Jason as some frat boy type lol
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[subordinate]

Lookin' Good Jason,

No Homo.

[Jason00S2000]

How are you gonna getting it like a muthaf if all book proceed goes to charity? :suspicious:


Because I'm going to market the SHIT out of it online and MMLAMF through online sales, but all the profits from however many books I sell at the actual event I'm going to donate. I figure it's a good thing to do since the book is full of marijuana, blow, and heartbreak.

[Ronin]

LOL just got a press release about your book, Jason.

[TheKingdom2000]

This is pretty epic.
I remember a time when members were hating on Jason's posts, trolling him, or calling bullshit on whatever he says.

Now, it's the complete opposite. I love the interwebz.
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[Razor Ramon HG]

People may think Jason is vain or egotistical, but I've always enjoyed his posts. He brings a particular personality to RS that's rare in the world.

[Isaiah11]

shit, I might pick up this book

[Jason00S2000]

If I end up making a shit ton of money from this book, I will buy an Aventador and take each and every RS member a ride in it if they want, hehe

Come down to the launch party from 6-9 PM at the Portside Pub in Gastown, February 14th!!!

[diesel_test]

If I end up making a shit ton of money from this book, I will buy an Aventador and take each and every RS member a ride in it if they want, hehe

Come down to the launch party from 6-9 PM at the Portside Pub in Gastown, February 14th!!!

you'll know if its successful or not in a month?

[Jason00S2000]

you'll know if its successful or not in a month?

Things like this can take years to become a hit. I'm going to write a bunch more books, my 2nd and 3rd are already coming along nicely.

I do have some marketing tricks I'm going to use to get a lot of attention, fast, for my novel.

[PJ]

City of Singles launch party on Valentine's Day. Clever. :D

[radioman]

Things like this can take years to become a hit. I'm going to write a bunch more books, my 2nd and 3rd are already coming along nicely.

I do have some marketing tricks I'm going to use to get a lot of attention, fast, for my novel.

Like...


"VANCOUVER AUTHOR RUNS NAKED THROUGH STREETS AFTER BOOK SIGNING - BOOK SALES RISE

[LSF22]

If I end up making a shit ton of money from this book, I will buy an Aventador and take each and every RS member a ride in it if they want, hehe


let the sign up list begin...?

[Excelsis]

lol he got banned

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

lol why was he banned haha... wtf

[7seven]

lol why was he banned haha... wtf

My guess is that it was because he was using every thread he posted in to spam about his book and book release, basically trying to advertise for free.

What I don't get is why that guy in the local girl missing in LA thread got banned and Hondaracer got banned for basically just stating their view/opinions that maybe a mod didn't like, seems touch sensitive no?

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

i've been saying for ages, RS needs some board to review mods actions.

they conduct business with no reprimands.

not to shit on anyone's feelings but it's basically like the LAPD. No code of conduct, code of honor, and no reprimands. There are plenty of bans that are not fully warranted or could be solved with much less punishment. But they don't care enough, or want to "waste" enough effort or time to do the job right. Even though that is their job when they signed up for it.

RS is not just some highschool forum anymore. It's a real business making money on traffic flow. Business cannot be conducted based on how you feel.


If the bans are temporary (reasonable), i can understand, but forever, is the same as executing someone on the street with no trial. especially a 2001 account where you know for 11.9999 of the 12 years he was relatively ok, and just one slip up and gone forever.

[rb]

i've been saying for ages, RS needs some board to review mods actions.

they conduct business with no reprimands.

not to shit on anyone's feelings but it's basically like the LAPD. No code of conduct, code of honor, and no reprimands. There are plenty of bans that are not fully warranted or could be solved with much less punishment. But they don't care enough, or want to "waste" enough effort or time to do the job right. Even though that is their job when they signed up for it.

RS is not just some highschool forum anymore. It's a real business making money on traffic flow. Business cannot be conducted based on how you feel.


If the bans are temporary (reasonable), i can understand, but forever, is the same as executing someone on the street with no trial. especially a 2001 account where you know for 11.9999 of the 12 years he was relatively ok, and just one slip up and gone forever.

I will look into the hondaracer banning but you're almost talking like RS is a public service and that we have to report everything to our members.There are reprimands but they happen behind closed doors. In fact, a few mods have been let go b/c of they got too ban happy. Most bans are temporary though it may not seem that way.

btw, its often more than a few slips. We may not ban right away but our mods often give members several chances and private warnings. You know this as well as anyone as you've been banned yourself a few times and yet we let you back in didn't we?

[Vansterdam]

anyone down to go book signing still an hour left lol

[?NR]

every ban has to have a reason unless it's blatantly obvious, and even then it has to be entered in records.

I am still waiting for a reasoning as it was absent from hondaracer's file. (yes every user has one and it is updated everytime something is done)

this is how it stands:

when the reason for Hondaracer's banning gets amended, and agreed by the mod group, the ban will stick.

if the reason is missing and not amended within 48 hrs, the ban will be reversed.

If you disagree with a ban, feel free to email the mod or the admins. We will review.

that has always been the case, didn't you get the memo??

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

I will look into the hondaracer banning but you're almost talking like RS is a public service and that we have to report everything to our members.There are reprimands but they happen behind closed doors. In fact, a few mods have been let go b/c of they got too ban happy. Most bans are temporary though it may not seem that way.

btw, its often more than a few slips. We may not ban right away but our mods often give members several chances and private warnings. You know this as well as anyone as you've been banned yourself a few times and yet we let you back in didn't we?

Yeah i've been let back in a few times but this was years back (rules were different, you could get away with a lot worse shit and still not get banned due to favouritism, or get banned without a thought due to being unfavoured), and there were huge threads of complaints and pages and pages of written complaints and attacks back and forth to get to THIS stage.

it wasn't like this before.

and if people didn't say anything they'd stay banned. that's what i don't like.
people shouldn't have to fight back for an unfair ban or a ban that could be turned temporary (but they didn't know, so the perma sticks).

that and the public doesn't know, so if we don't know, we get worried. and people will worry if they step out of line they'll be gone forever as well.

it's fear. and it puts a divide between the mods and users... aka cop haters are born.


no rs isnt a public service, it's a private one, in which you make money from us.

you don't have to report everything, but it is obvious that some information that can be let out to let users feel more satisfied, and be at a better/equal level of understanding of everything.

you keep everything behind closed doors, and the same mistakes will keep being made.


people aren't psychic, if punishment is handed out to one user, no one else knows why or how, the same mistake is bound to be made.



every ban has to have a reason unless it's blatantly obvious, and even then it has to be entered in records.

I am still waiting for a reasoning as it was absent from hondaracer's file. (yes every user has one and it is updated everytime something is done)

this is how it stands:

when the reason for Hondaracer's banning gets amended, and agreed by the mod group, the ban will stick.

if the reason is missing and not amended within 48 hrs, the ban will be reversed.

If you disagree with a ban, feel free to email the mod or the admins. We will review.

that has always been the case, didn't you get the memo??

that's good to know.

and no. what memo? i'm not a mod. as a mod it is your job to make sure we see the memo.
if it was just internally discussed how would anyone know? i bet 99% of users don't know this. and of the 1% that do know, 90% of them are mods.

in my mind all i see is someone gets banned and that's it.






people make threads and then some mod randomly cuts in and throws in some last words then also assumes the conclusion of the topic and closes the thread down automatically giving them the last word (like really? why should ANY thread be CLOSED down man... what if people REALLY want to talk about it? why not just throw it into fightclub and people that REALLY want to talk about it can talk about it all they want... right?)

and what's even worse is lately, other mods are too lazy to check that the thread is actually closed and keep posting, sometimes multiple times, basically (whether or not it is intentional) parading their take on the discussion, when no one else can even fucking reply.

there's a bunch of small things that could be improved with minimal effort if someone just took the time and thought about it and wrote the rules down. the users and mods would be in a much better relationship and there wouldn't be all this ego tripping mods vs groups of users.


but like i said, the only replies i ever get are something along the lines of "we aren't here to serve you"
or we arent a public service, or whatever. etc.
shit son, you guys volunteered for that position. i'm sure there are 100's of users that would happily do the same AND do the administrative work that comes with it.


I mean, yes this 48 hour thing and history update thing is a huge leap from vs 10 or even 5 years ago.

but Im still pushed to think there would be some cases where nothing is entered 48 hours in, and the user still stays banned (maybe he was an unknown user, newb or just a lurker).
or there is just a quick agreement amongst the mods (who are all on the same team to begin with), and they'll just enter some quick update stating some reason and all the mods agree and they just ban the guy and throw the key out.

what i'm getting at is, there's still a lot of subjective discrimination. there's no real impartial judge.
I know it's asking for a lot, and wishful thinking. but it's true. you see it happen so often.
mod a bans user x. mod a states reason. other mods hate user x too. they all agree. done. key thrown out.


an example is the guy that got banned in the girl missing in LA.
thanks to the "thanks/fail" feature, you can see many people agree with the fact that the user was banned on unjust means (or appear to be unjust to the users because we can't see anything else).

and there are 0 fails. you can already get a feel of user sentiment there. shouldn't it be automatically looked into and then a mod should reply letting the users know why it was justified?

or it could just heat up to be another mod vs user flame war.


I just want you guys to know the user end perspective, and how things could flow more smoothly... with not that much more effort.
the general user population would probably appreciate it and respect mods a lot more.

just a thought man.

[rb]

I dont know want this thread to turn into a users vs mods thing but your concerns have been heard. I will see what we can do to open up the lines of communication between users and mods. For now, if members are that curious as to why a member got banned or if they're curious as to whether the material they are posting is ok, post in members supoort.

[MindBomber]

Fuck. Yes.

Ulic's not alone. Clearly, look at the 'Thanks'.

First, Bcrdukes. Second, RWB. Third, LA Chick. Fourth, Money Motherfucker.

In a matter of a few days, four threads have devolved to Mod vs. User talks.

I've given my opinion before, and it's not always well-received.... but, like Ulic, I've only been expressing the thoughts of most RS users.

A major rift is opening between Mods and Users, and its easily fixable.

Open a new forum/thread;
Update it when moderation decisions are made;
Allow Users to voice an opinion;
Give consideration to that opinion;
Update with final decision, which doesn't necessarily need to be in line with the Users opinions.
Repeat each time a ban/points/mass post deletions/etc. occur.
Allow ongoing posts from Users and be open to hearing opinions, questions, concerns.

A dialogue on bans, points, post "pruning," and the like, does not need to be kept secret. It's not like we're asking RS to post its financial records, we just want to be able to voice an opinion on what happens in OUR little community. I know, "RS is not a democracy"... but, Dictatorships aren't exactly popular, and everyone here has the choice to find another way to entertain themselves if they dislike the atmosphere.

VCC is on life-support and Glove's new BChondas site is thriving, because of VERY similar issues arising and going ignored. I see internal memos for one of the large internet forum companies, and again, they've had VERY similar issues arise, they've gone ignored, and they felt major repercussions in turn.

It's not a major, complicated issue.

I don't see why it needs to be made into one.

There are a lot of very intelligent, successful people here on RS, allowing them to voice opinions would only be beneficial.

Just my opinion, I'm not out to ruffle feathers.

[SkinnyPupp]

We're talking about completely different scenarios with each user though. If you guys want to talk about it, I would recommend opening a new thread in the support forum. This particular thread resulted in a ban that you can't argue against (it wasn't the first case of spam by this user).

I'll close this thread, because honestly I don't think it deserves any more free publicity. This isn't to be confrontational, I just think a dedicated thread in the support forum is a better place to discuss these issues.