[Jason00S2000]

So in one of his songs, Lil Wayne raps about getting money like a "mother fucker."

Tonight I was discussing with a friend, what monthly income would you need to be able to describe, IN VANCOUVER, how much money would you need to make to make money like a mother fucker?

I stick with 100k a month. If you made a steady 100k a month you'd be getting money like a mutha fucka.

Thoughts?

p.s. I'm not talking investments, I'm talking strictly cheque payments.

[Vansterdam]

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[zx7rrrr]

stolen from google.

Jobs that pay 1+ million/year?


Aircraft pilot for a commercial jet and putting in a lot of overtime. As you know from 9/11, there are schools that teach people to learn and get their commercial liscense. Pilots with some routes get extra incentives. But you would have to wait until you are a chief pilot to get into the million dollar catagory.

A Doctor with a speciality -- this involves 2 years of pre-med school, four years in medical school, passing your board exam then two years as a residency in general medicine and then another two year residency in the specialty of your choice and passing the board exam for that residency. You'll have read that some plastic surgeons who run their own clinics (vanity clinics to make people "better looking", not helping people who need it from accidents or other medical conditions). Although almost all plastic surgeons earn fairly hefty salaries.

Researcher -- doing research in chemistry, physics, electronics and medical science can earn you a million through multi year bonuses for making a major discoveries. My father was an electronics engineer who developed ways of uncompatible machines to talk to each other. Some medical scientists get a very small part of the pie if they discover a best selling drug that keeps them in the millionaire salary range for the life of the patent. But they also have to earn that money by developing refinements in order to extend the patent and creating a more effective versions or discovering other diseases that the drug can be used for.

Many mining engineers get million dollar salaries, but it is a highly specialized job and mining companies pay big bucks to engineers who can keep a major mine open and can find ways of expanding it.

Manager of a large mutual fund or being the custodian\advisors of rich peoples money be investing it in ways that keep them rich and reduce their taxes.

Any senior management position in a large corporation, President, one of the Vice Presidents and Directors of large Divisions.

[Jason00S2000]

Porn company owners make fucking huge bank. Rumor has it, the owner of YouJizz whom I've met, makes like 500k/month.

EL James has made 100m+ on 50 Shades of Grey! Authors can make huge bank...

A few people I've known in the real estate business have made a killing.

[CP.AR]

stolen from google.

Jobs that pay 1+ million/year?


Aircraft pilot for a commercial jet and putting in a lot of overtime. As you know from 9/11, there are schools that teach people to learn and get their commercial liscense. Pilots with some routes get extra incentives. But you would have to wait until you are a chief pilot to get into the million dollar catagory.

A Doctor with a speciality -- this involves 2 years of pre-med school, four years in medical school, passing your board exam then two years as a residency in general medicine and then another two year residency in the specialty of your choice and passing the board exam for that residency. You'll have read that some plastic surgeons who run their own clinics (vanity clinics to make people "better looking", not helping people who need it from accidents or other medical conditions). Although almost all plastic surgeons earn fairly hefty salaries.

Researcher -- doing research in chemistry, physics, electronics and medical science can earn you a million through multi year bonuses for making a major discoveries. My father was an electronics engineer who developed ways of uncompatible machines to talk to each other. Some medical scientists get a very small part of the pie if they discover a best selling drug that keeps them in the millionaire salary range for the life of the patent. But they also have to earn that money by developing refinements in order to extend the patent and creating a more effective versions or discovering other diseases that the drug can be used for.

Many mining engineers get million dollar salaries, but it is a highly specialized job and mining companies pay big bucks to engineers who can keep a major mine open and can find ways of expanding it.

Manager of a large mutual fund or being the custodian\advisors of rich peoples money be investing it in ways that keep them rich and reduce their taxes.

Any senior management position in a large corporation, President, one of the Vice Presidents and Directors of large Divisions.

First get your PPL, then get your CPL, then work up the hours, get all your ratings and instruct for a while.
Then get your ATPL, get more hours and HOPE that someone will hire you
Start from the bottom of the stack when you eventually do get hired.

To be Captain you are looking at at least 10+ years in the company.
Being in the aviation industry ain't as glamorous as it used to be

[J____]

it's not what you do, but how you do it. Hell you can make million dollar salaries collecting garbage if you do it right. Remember, do what you love and once you've become the elite in your field, money will come to you.

[dhari]

since ur listening to lil wayne songs, i doubt ur gonna make 100k/month :troll:

[punkwax]

10 days in and I believe we have a winner for worst thread title in 2013..

I think 10k per week should be considered as GMLAMF.

[GLOW]

this post has joe45 written all over it :lawl:

[RRxtar]

IMO, Getting money like a mothafucka applies to making huge money not working conventionally.

An engineer or specialty doctor, or investment bankers make huge money, but they work incredibly intensive jobs.

I think it would be more suited to someone who wakes up at 11am, wears slippers and a house coat around their ocean view house until 8pm where they throw on a 10k suit to go for dinner, and then high class penthouse party the rest of the evening. While making 100k/month. You dont know what they do really, but they make a killing doing it.

Musician, Entrepreneur, Writer, Dotcom success story, Inherited corporation.... something where you put the work up front and the money perpetually roles in after.

[Gumby]

^
Sounds like you just described Tony Stark! :p

[tacobell]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALctgLI_Cpw

[originalhypa]

First you get the book deal, then you get the power.
Then you get the money.

http://i.imgur.com/bm9iB.gif

[Iceman-19]

I think if someone says to you, MA FACKA, you be gettin money! Then you are getting money like a mother fucker. Until that happens, don't matter.

[snails]

but... if you have low income and you fuck a mother... you would be a mother fucker.. so someone else with low income would then make money like said mother fucker... :suspicious:

[Iceman-19]

You wouldnt be getting money like a mother fucker then. I have done what you said, low income and fucking a mother, and I was not gettin money like mother fuck.

[snails]

You wouldnt be getting money like a mother fucker then. I have done what you said, low income and fucking a mother, and I was not gettin money like mother fuck.

but... u are a mother fucker..... so anyone that makes the same income as u then makes money like u... a mother fucker :badpokerface:

[Iceman-19]

I see what you did there.

[KoreanHistoryCH]

http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/1378125/81064790.jpg

[originalhypa]

Do you know what your problem is Jason?


http://i.imgur.com/8UyGj.jpg

[jasonturbo]

I make more money than I can spend.

6 years ago I made "normal" money and lived more or less paycheck to paycheck.

I am no happier now than I was 6 years ago, money really isn't that important. Sounds crazy to the people out there who have stress related to bills and what not, but if you keep your standard of living in check, you can be very happy with very little money IMO.

In this city you only need the following to be happy: friends, snowboard, skateboard, skimboard, bicycle, sunny summers at the beach, and a little bit of drinking money.

[punkwax]

I think I would like to make more money than I can spend. What is your secret? :ifyouknow:

[Jason00S2000]

In this city you only need the following to be happy: friends, snowboard, skateboard, skimboard, bicycle, sunny summers at the beach, and a little bit of drinking money.


Add artistic expression in there and I would agree 100%!

[Meowjin]

Porn company owners make fucking huge bank. Rumor has it, the owner of YouJizz whom I've met, makes like 500k/month.

EL James has made 100m+ on 50 Shades of Grey! Authors can make huge bank...

A few people I've known in the real estate business have made a killing.

Funny part was he drove an s2000 for years.

[Iceman-19]

I make more money than I can spend.

6 years ago I made "normal" money and lived more or less paycheck to paycheck.

I am no happier now than I was 6 years ago, money really isn't that important. Sounds crazy to the people out there who have stress related to bills and what not, but if you keep your standard of living in check, you can be very happy with very little money IMO.

In this city you only need the following to be happy: friends, snowboard, skateboard, skimboard, bicycle, sunny summers at the beach, and a little bit of drinking money.

I can attest to this, Jasonturbo is a miserable bastard, and he is quite well off.

[Isaiah11]

I dont rely on money to be happy

"I have a double major in Econ and Philosophy

I have the ability to make money but I just dont see the point" - some comedian

[snails]

i would be happier if i didnt have to worry about bills, but the happiness i achieve on a daily basis has nothing to do with money, but the people i surround myself with

[mr_chin]

We're most happy when we're out of debt. Until then, more money = more happy.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

it's subjective.

like jasonturbo says... when you make more money than you know what to do with.

the more macro your perspective of the world, the more money you'll need.

[fT-z33wor]

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[SpeedStars]

Giggalo's make money like motha fuckas :troll:.








I'd say given the cost of living in Vancouver is quite high, 250k should be sufficient to grant you the privilege of saying that you make money like a mothafucka.
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[spideyv2]

14$ an hr
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gettin money like a motherfucker

[strykn]

it's subjective.

like jasonturbo says... when you make more money than you know what to do with.

the more macro your perspective of the world, the more money you'll need.

just blew my fucking mind

http://fatlip.leoweekly.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/f97d033e87ca.gif

[Jason00S2000]

it's subjective.

like jasonturbo says... when you make more money than you know what to do with.

the more macro your perspective of the world, the more money you'll need.


I was going to say, I think I will forever be in debt, because I have so much I want to do.

I have an idea for a public art installation that would probably cost, wild guessing, 50k-100k. However, if I were to ever be able to build it, the value to me would be priceless.

[Jason00S2000]

I'm pissed that I missed the $14 dolla balla chapter of Revscene. :(

[drunkrussian]

though the lyric is gettin money like a mofucka, what he means is spending money like a mofucka

rappers, pro ballers, and the average young american douchebag, all go bankrupt, broke or something in between, at some point. Ok, 95% of them do. This is because they make money then don't save and spend like a mofucka. Typical rap star - cars on lease, watches for cash, houses for rent, popping bottles and no savings in the bank. End of the day when they lose it, they can't afford to pay their damn taxes and go to jail. Gettin' cock in the ass like a mofucka

if antoine walker make 105 million, went bankrupt and lost it all, vs. someone who makes $14 an hour and manages to save 80% of it, person B has a 20% greater return than antoine walker.

a person who pays his bills, is free of debt, has a comfortable life, enjoys luxuries, yet still has enough to retire and is happy. In vancouver, that's often asking too much. so THAT is gettin money like a mofucker.

[noclue]

antoine walker is now poor but at least he experienced a great lifestyle in the prime of his life where a $14 wage slave will always be poor.

[drunkrussian]

^ok fine, $14 was too extreme an example lol

[RRxtar]

heard on HipHopNation on SiriusXM the IRS now has a team specially targeting rappers who are gettin money like a mothafucka and avoiding taxes like a mothafucka.

they listed off all the rappers who have been to jail, are in jail, or are going to jail, for tax evasion, and the list was astounding.

edit:

just a couple quick ones:

Fat Joe is heading to jail and owes $718,038
Ja Rule in jail for $1.1 million
Beanie Sigel for $728,000
Lauren Hill
Methond Man
Nas had to pay $3mill

Hell, even Lil Wayne himself has been in tax trouble at least a few times for a million.

and everyones heard about Wesley Snipes going to jail for owing $15million

[Infiniti]

^ Ja Rule can stay in Jail for all I care..

[Hehe]

For someone truly "getting" like a mofo, this person shouldn't be working at all.

I have met many people who clear 7 figures through their work. But they have very little personal time. Their work occupy pretty much every minute of their waking hours. What is the point? I have 0 desire of becoming one of them.

On the other hand, there are another bunch of people I know that don't clear 7 figures, but usually in the high 6s, they do nothing but play mahjong, drink old school Chinese tea and travel every day.

[PJ]

EL James has made 100m+ on 50 Shades of Grey! Authors can make huge bank...


Before she got traditionally published by one of the big-6, she had already sold 200,000+ copies of her e-book by herself. At $10 a pop, ($7 for her, $3 for Amazon), that's already over 1.4million she made on her own.

Her book sold because of the outrageousness. If the boundary for acceptable graphic content is 10, her book was a 24. The writing itself is pretty bad, but she admits she's never written before this.

So Jason, hopefully your ebook will push those boundaries as well! :fullofwin:

[Jason00S2000]

On the other hand, there are another bunch of people I know that don't clear 7 figures, but usually in the high 6s, they do nothing but play mahjong, drink old school Chinese tea and travel every day.


A bunch of dudes in the adult business make 7 figures yearly, but they're the most sterile and boring individuals you'd ever meet. YouJizz's owner has the style and flair of a Walk-in Clinic waiting room.

Another thing, many of the biggest earners in adult... are short men.

Life is a canvas, money is the brush, and the paint is fucking expensive!

[Jason00S2000]

The writing itself is pretty bad, but she admits she's never written before this.


Have you read the part where she walks into his office?

I think if my first 3 books don't do well, I'm going to publish the most intensely sexually violent novel I can write. I'll write it with the same linoleum prose she used, but push the limits of legality and taste. If people simply want titillation from the extreme, I can do that.


So Jason, hopefully your ebook will push those boundaries as well! :fullofwin:

First novel is about modern dating and one man's attempt at getting what he wants from it.(Fair amount of sex

Second novel is about a fashion designer struggling with her confidence and bisexuality.(Fair amount of sex)

Third novel is about a space DJ and three lizard aliens trying to find the right musical notes to hatch an egg as a party of a religious rite in their culture.(No sex)

Books are a way to get money like a muthafucka, but you really have to get into the consciousness of what people are thinking.

Lady Gaga is brilliant in how she coined "Born this way" and a whole movement adopted it.

Maybe a novel based upon the US government taking away people's guns. Maybe a big tittied polyamorous MILF with a black husband, they have guns and they have to defend themselves from both the Tea Party racists, AND ghetto thugs, all while I sprinkle interracial swinger sex throughout the book.

[jdc430]

it's not what you do, but how you do it. Hell you can make million dollar salaries collecting garbage if you do it right. Remember, do what you love and once you've become the elite in your field, money will come to you.

Literally. 1800gotjunk 112m annual revenue!

[subordinate]

A bunch of dudes in the adult business make 7 figures yearly, but they're the most sterile and boring individuals you'd ever meet. YouJizz's owner has the style and flair of a Walk-in Clinic waiting room.

Another thing, many of the biggest earners in adult... are short men.

Life is a canvas, money is the brush, and the paint is fucking expensive!

I was curious and googled the youjizz owner, looks like he sold it to a corporation a while back. Even then, in the beginning, he was making some good coin: 120,000 a month.



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[Hondaracer]

a few years back we helped manage the construction of a developers house we worked with in british properties, recently i was talking to the accountant of our company regarding this individual and he said without a doubt the guy who we built a house for makes 50k a day, self made man under 50

id call that, making money like a mother fucker

[1exotic]

Young Scooter- "Cash Money" Official Music Video - YouTube

[1exotic]

take notes
Birdman How To Be A 5*Stunna Webisodes #1 - YouTube

[diesel_test]

I was going to say, I think I will forever be in debt, because I have so much I want to do.

I have an idea for a public art installation that would probably cost, wild guessing, 50k-100k. However, if I were to ever be able to build it, the value to me would be priceless.

Tip: DEBT makes you rich if you know how use to it:woot2::woot2:

[sdubfid]

Tip: DEBT makes you rich if you know how use to it:woot2::woot2:

would you guys file for bankruptcy if you had 30,000 of debt with no job nor any assets you own that can be taken away??

casino-- losing like 2G's atleast everytime i go lol

show us the way diesel test

[Jason00S2000]

Tip: DEBT makes you rich if you know how use to it:woot2::woot2:


I should help rich people find things to spend money on to make them feel good

[diesel_test]

show us the way diesel test

ok, gambling was many years ago. Lets put this aside now.

Say i borrow a million dollars to get a business started up and running and after all the business operations/expenses it gives me a return on investment of 150-250k yearly, now that is a good return right?

A million in debt now gives me 200k of income. You see?:badpokerface:

You could also do this with borrowing money from credit cards to make money at casinos as well. Take out 1000 of borrowed money and you win 10,000, now that is 1000% return on investment!!

But we all know gambling don't have the best odds but sometimes you do get lucky lol :D

[noclue]

ok, gambling was many years ago. Lets put this aside now.

Say i borrow a million dollars to get a business started up and running and after all the business operations/expenses it gives me a return on investment of 150-250k yearly, now that is a good return right?

A million in debt now gives me 200k of income. You see?:badpokerface:

You could also do this with borrowing money from credit cards to make money at casinos as well. Take out 1000 of borrowed money and you win 10,000, now that is 1000% return on investment!!

But we all know gambling don't have the best odds but sometimes you do get lucky lol :D

Man I need to learn how to make money from you. Who cares about low risk like a LOC at 3.5% and put it in a ETF/stock that gives you 5%+ in return. Every bank knows how much I stunt and loan me a mil with no personal guarantee. Gotta go all in or nothing playboy.

[Hondaracer]

yea, getting cash advances at the casino at daily compounding interest is a brilliant idea, cause ya know, casino's are like a sure thing

[604nguyen]

http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/9/9e/697.gif

[diesel_test]

yea, getting cash advances at the casino at daily compounding interest is a brilliant idea, cause ya know, casino's are like a sure thing

im not saying going to the casino with borrowed money is a good idea but sometimes you get lucky and its fun you make $$$ too:fullofwin:

there were occasions i bought in for 1k and i go on winning streaks for 2 weeks and up 10-20k with 1k. That aint too bad right?


if you win and leave you can make it sometimes but after years if you keep going eventually the casino catches back on you

[Iceman-19]

Hahahah. There needs to be a diesel_test forum, where he can just regale us day and night with his worldly wisdom on investing, gambling tips, business advice, women and dating, and whatever else comes out of that beautiful mind of his.

[diesel_test]

Hahahah. There needs to be a diesel_test forum, where he can just regale us day and night with his worldly wisdom on investing, gambling tips, business advice, women and dating, and whatever else comes out of that beautiful mind of his.


im from a family that owns a business so i'd know a thing or two about that and investing although i haven't personally really got started on creating my own wealth yet. Im looking into starting a business in the next few months

and definately, im NOT saying gambling is a good idea but its fun and you can win some if you have some excessive cash

[Iceman-19]

Dude, don't hate, Im trying to get you hyped up. We get enough people involved, you could have your own advice forum on RS.

[CP.AR]

alternatively, you can always be a murder consultant

Horrible Bosses - Motherfucker Jones (Jamie Foxx) - YouTube

[The7even]

I am not sure why, but I dislike people that chase money and only money and place it above all else.

You can be worth a million bucks, and still be poor or worse off than someone who barely gets by.

I do always encourage everyone to chase happyness and if that leads to money so be it. But if your whole life revolves around looking for ways to just make bucks.. that's sort of shitty and can make a person do shady things to get to where they want to be.

With that said, I'd be happy making > 90K/year.

Edit: Lil wayne is a faggot - a cancer for anyone that likes music.

[Jason00S2000]

Edit: Lil wayne is a faggot - a cancer for anyone that likes music.


How could you NOT like Tha Carter III?

[Manic!]

How could you NOT like Tha Carter III?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5axz4DUpDcw

[Gumby]

ok, gambling was many years ago. Lets put this aside now.

Say i borrow a million dollars to get a business started up and running and after all the business operations/expenses it gives me a return on investment of 150-250k yearly, now that is a good return right?

A million in debt now gives me 200k of income. You see?:badpokerface:

You could also do this with borrowing money from credit cards to make money at casinos as well. Take out 1000 of borrowed money and you win 10,000, now that is 1000% return on investment!!

But we all know gambling don't have the best odds but sometimes you do get lucky lol :D
First you say "put gambling aside".

Then this post, and your next few, talk about going to the casino.

Make up your mind!

[Happy]

How could you NOT like Tha Carter III?

Tha Carter II/III was dope but he fell off hard after that
probably too much lean fucked up his brain, only reasonable explanation for the shit he wears

[Redlines_Daily]

ok, gambling was many years ago. Lets put this aside now.

Say i borrow a million dollars to get a business started up and running and after all the business operations/expenses it gives me a return on investment of 150-250k yearly, now that is a good return right?


150k per annum is not a great return on a business that costs $1M. Considering the risks inherent with starting a new business plus the time required if you are managing it yourself, it would take 6.5 years just to get your money back. $250-300k is where I would want to be on a million dollar venture.

[diesel_test]

150k per annum is not a great return on a business that costs $1M. Considering the risks inherent with starting a new business plus the time required if you are managing it yourself, it would take 6.5 years just to get your money back. $250-300k is where I would want to be on a million dollar venture.

if the bank is lending you 1M, you're not putting your own $$$ to start the business. the bank wants atleast 25% secured cash down payment from you though


ROI of anything over 10% after interest and expenses using the banks money to make money is considered good today.

i put 25% of my own money to get a 1M business giving me 150-250k per year is not good, wtf?

Being in DEBT using only 25% of my own money is gonna make me richer and richer. the key word is cashflow and leverage

If the debt is giving you cash flow, you're good :D

[StaxBundlez]

when you have racks on racks on racks

YC - Racks ft. Future - YouTube

http://youtu.be/knWnMKKEt88

[Jason00S2000]

Tha Carter II/III was dope but he fell off hard after that
probably too much lean fucked up his brain, only reasonable explanation for the shit he wears


There are a couple good tracks on Tha Carter IV.

I renamed Blunt Blowin' to Kitchen Cleanin' because whenever I smoke and put the song on, next thing I know my kitchen is sparkling clean!

Also, Abortion is a great track to smile even when you're down.

"...and when life sucks, I just enjoy the head!"

Two Shots is also pretty good.

[originalhypa]

I should help rich people find things to spend money on to make them feel good

No man, you need to get real. You need to grow up, and get a real job. Maybe focus on a career, considering that you're not 21 anymore.


While you were out getting laid, I was buying real estate. You banged a 50 y/o asian bitch, I just moved into a 6200 square foot house.
While you were getting high, I was learning about electrical engineering as it pertains to my industry. Your lungs are full of weed smoke, while my garage is full of cars.
While you were writing a book, I was moving product in a competitive industry making money, slowly but surely. Putting cash away every month, letting that cash make money for me. Passive income is sexy.


Life is a long road, but the decisions you make today will have a profound effect on the person you are tomorrow.

[Meowjin]

you probably had a better situation and aren't bipolar mang.

[hud 91gt]

stolen from google.

Jobs that pay 1+ million/year?


Aircraft pilot for a commercial jet and putting in a lot of overtime. As you know from 9/11, there are schools that teach people to learn and get their commercial liscense. Pilots with some routes get extra incentives. But you would have to wait until you are a chief pilot to get into the million dollar catagory.



Is this off Wikipedia? lol

No airline pilot in this day and age makes upwards of a million dollars. I have heard rumors of the oldest payscale(no longer around), A Cathay Pacific pilot could make upwards of 3/4 of a million dollars which is unheard of. Since that was the A scale, they are now onto the D scale... Meaning if your lucky you could bring in upwards of $250000 a year. Keep in mind, this is after 30 years with the company.

This is coming from an Air Canada pilot making $45k a year, only 25 years until I can start making real money :p

[diesel_test]

While you were out getting laid, I was buying real estate. You banged a 50 y/o asian bitch, I just moved into a 6200 square foot house.
.
ya and now you can even have girls 10-15 years younger than you come over to your 6200 sq ft house anytime if ya want:fullofwin:

[PJ]

No man, you need to get real. You need to grow up, and get a real job. Maybe focus on a career, considering that you're not 21 anymore.

While you were out getting laid, I was buying real estate. You banged a 50 y/o asian bitch, I just moved into a 6200 square foot house.
While you were getting high, I was learning about electrical engineering as it pertains to my industry. Your lungs are full of weed smoke, while my garage is full of cars.
While you were writing a book, I was moving product in a competitive industry making money, slowly but surely. Putting cash away every month, letting that cash make money for me. Passive income is sexy.

Life is a long road, but the decisions you make today will have a profound effect on the person you are tomorrow.

Agree and disagree.


Writing is a whole different art from music and acting. Music and acting has a lot to do with looks. Writing all comes down to whether you're good or not. I personally know a handful of authors who have collected into the 6-figures worth of royalties. It is not uncommon for a writer to get a 5 to 6-figure advance, with 4-figure royalty checks coming in every x amount of months.

- Having said that, it isn't wise to put all your eggs into one basket and just swing for the fences, hoping your book will be the next blockbuster. I'm a songwriter for a record label and a writer for a literary agency, but I'm also an engineer by profession.



No one has the right to tell anyone else how to live. I'm sorry, but this is one of my biggest pet peeves.


Not everyone's dream is to work a day job, buy a car, buy a house, have kids, and tell them to rinse and repeat.

If you live in a world where you really think that's all there is, I truly, truly, feel sorry for you.

Everyone has different aspirations. Just because your path is for you doesn't mean it's for everyone else. Life is meant to be lived the way you want. Life is anything BUT one-size-fits-all.

[parm104]

No man, you need to get real. You need to grow up, and get a real job. Maybe focus on a career, considering that you're not 21 anymore.


While you were out getting laid, I was buying real estate. You banged a 50 y/o asian bitch, I just moved into a 6200 square foot house.
While you were getting high, I was learning about electrical engineering as it pertains to my industry. Your lungs are full of weed smoke, while my garage is full of cars.
While you were writing a book, I was moving product in a competitive industry making money, slowly but surely. Putting cash away every month, letting that cash make money for me. Passive income is sexy.


Life is a long road, but the decisions you make today will have a profound effect on the person you are tomorrow.

I'm glad I'm not the only one sitting here reading Jason's stupid posts. Jason reminds me of my manager at my first job @ Tommy Hilfiger years and years ago. The guy wanted approval so bad that he would come up with the dumbest shit because he thought it would impress us. We would awkwardly laugh because he was our boss but all thought he was a tool. Same shit applies to Jason.

Your lifestyle isn't really one to be envied. Your "philosophies" are results of years of drug abuse and alcoholism. Don't take this as an me putting down people who have these problems; it's not meant to be a sarcastic diss. It's a logical conclusion that I've come to. After all, you're the one who brags about your excessive drug and alcohol use. So really, most of the times you say something on this forum, it gets disregarded as some bullshit that most don't care to read.

You're fairly transparent in your ways. Desperate to make sure everyone knows that you're living in GasTown as if you think it's an accomplishment. If ever there is a silence on this forum, you feel the need to name drop porn stars and producers into the mix assuming that any of us are actually mesmerized that you know these people. Lastly, every time you speak of someone or refer to someone who is financial successful you ALWAYS have the need to remind us that you would "rather be happy." It's like you're trying to convince yourself that financially successful people are worse off than you, which couldn't be further from the truth. You seem to think that all people with wealth are miserable or that they aren't living life to the fullest. I think you're probably the only one who values porn and drugs as the top priority in your life. Guess what, you can do both those things, have money, a family, own a real house AND yes, this may sound very surprising to you but you could even maybe own your own CAR!

Get over it dude, no one cares about your "Fantasy Lifestyle" so stop spitting it out every opportunity you get. If I wanted lifestyle advice from someone, I'd go to Dr. Phil; not JasonS2000nocarlivingingastowndoingblowwatchingpor n.



Everyone has different aspirations. Just because your path is for you doesn't mean it's for everyone else. Life is meant to be lived the way you want. Life is anything BUT one-size-fits-all.

You're 100% right. And I'm certain Hypa's response was made after constantly hearing Jason talk about how everyone with money is miserable and he's better off than they are. It's subjective and personal but this guy feels the need to constantly shove his shit down everyone's throats as a form of impressing us. First few times it was entertaining and informational, after the 1000th post about the same shit, it ends up being ignorant and shameful.

[Jason00S2000]

My life is colourful and exciting, I haven't even released the first book yet!

If I start making some good money through novels, ya'll muthafuckas going to be hatin' on the shit I post after that, guaranteed!

:fullofwin:

[parm104]

My life is colourful and exciting, I haven't even released the first book yet!

If I start making some good money through novels, ya'll muthafuckas going to be hatin' on the shit I post after that, guaranteed!

:fullofwin:

We'll see Charlie Sheen...

[Jason00S2000]

We'll see Charlie Sheen...


Guarantee Charlie has had a much more exciting life than you have, and probably will continue to do so for many years...

[Happy]

There are a couple good tracks on Tha Carter IV.


haha I raped president carter + this song on C4

Lil Wayne Up Up and Away - YouTube

that's about it though, everything other song on C4 was pretty brutal

[El Bastardo]

http://i.imgur.com/6NhzP.jpg

[AAnthony]

In my opinion I think it's more shallow to say...

"My life's so great because I have so many material possesions and nice things (6200 square foot house, garage full of cars, etc). You need to grow up, get your shit together and OWN MORE THINGS"

Than it is to say

"My lifes so great because I party all the time and bang hot broads, I wanna do this shit till I die"
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[Jason00S2000]

In my opinion I think it's more shallow to say...

"My life's so great because I have so many material possesions and nice things (6200 square foot house, garage full of cars, etc). You need to grow up, get your shit together and OWN MORE THINGS"

Than it is to say

"My lifes so great because I party all the time and bang hot broads, I wanna do this shit till I die"
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Hehe, well, he's talking about what he's been taught to bring happiness. In my experience on earth, there are many, many paths to happiness and personal fulfillment.

[El Bastardo]

I think the message was lost in the delivery. He was essentially saying "I worked hard for these things and it paid off. These tangible assets will be there long after other people's hoes go home in the morning"

[AAnthony]

I know what he meant, I was just pointing out that he's starting to sound really materialistic...

I personally believe that life experiences will always bring you more happiness than anything with a price tag on it. People spend their whole lives accumulating money, then guess what, they die, and none of their money comes with them. Think of all the old businessmen who on their deathbed wished they lived a life like Jason.
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[dinosaur]

I'm glad I'm not the only one sitting here reading Jason's stupid posts......

Best thing I have read all day.

http://thingist.com/user_uploads/321362382158439961.gif

[Jason00S2000]

I think the message was lost in the delivery. He was essentially saying "I worked hard for these things and it paid off. These tangible assets will be there long after other people's hoes go home in the morning"


I will be immortal through novels. Once I'm published and earning income from my imagination, I'll have better things to worry about than a Langley millionaire's opinion of me, hehe. :)

[knight604]

keep dreaming.

[Jason00S2000]

keep dreaming.


"Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do." - Steve Jobs

[The7even]

"Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do." - Steve Jobs

While I hold no stance against the way you, or anyone does things, I will add that Steve Jobs is shit. He stole Ideas and when others stole from him he would get butthurt. Glad hes gone.

Just to clarify, not hating. I just don't like the douche you quoted.

[knight604]

:crybaby:

jason

[AAnthony]

Jason, you sure have high hopes and aspirations for your book...

As a marketer I've got a question. If I'm looking for a book on sex, drugs, and rock and roll why wouldn't I just buy a book written by a legendary rock star or celebrity?

Surely readers would prefer to read about the lives and crazy times of Motley Crue, The Chilli Peppers, Mike Tyson, Lil Wayne, George Clooney, etc as opposed to some greasy porn producer.

I almost believed you were living the dream: I thought you were producing some "perfect 10" model porn or something. Then l I read a post by you that says your most profitable website is filthycrackwhores.com or something. Your day job consists of zooming in on some crackwhores snatch... That's so greasy!

You're FAR from the revolutionists Steve Jobs is talking about...
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[Jason00S2000]

As a marketer I've got a question. If I'm looking for a book on sex, drugs, and rock and roll why wouldn't I just buy a book written by a legendary rock star or celebrity?
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You'll have to read the book to find out, it's not exactly what you think it is. Far from, indeed!

Also, I will be the first author to ever market a novel using his own homemade sex tape. We'll see if the notoriety of that gets me anywhere. I'm filming an intro to the tape using local actors as well.

It's not just a book release, it's an art project.



You're FAR from the revolutionists Steve Jobs is talking about...


If you could predict revolutions, they wouldn't happen. ;)

[Jason00S2000]

I thought you were producing some "perfect 10" model porn or something.
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Porn is passe. I have experienced every sexual fantasy I've ever had, without paying for it, without a camera being there.

My mind operates on a much higher level than thinking with my dick. I only really seek out a vagina when I'm high and/or drunk as a result of the stresses caused during the creative process.

[Akinari]

Get an education, get a proper job.

/thread

[SkinnyPupp]

Well this thread has turned a corner
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[Isaiah11]

you sound like Dennis from Always Sunny

do you use a system?

[Jason00S2000]

Get an education, get a proper job.

/thread


Location: White Rock



/thread

[Lomac]

Location: White Rock



/thread

Seriously?

[RRxtar]

I can't wait to be 45 years old passed out naked in my bathtub high on coke saying "that was a sweet party banging 20 year olds last nite, those people really get me man. I hope my next book sells"


wait no I don't. that sounds like a lonely dead end.



prove me wrong and become a successful novelist. but don't sit there telling me you are someone when you haven't sold a book yet.

[diesel_test]

You'll have to read the book to find out, it's not exactly what you think it is. Far from, indeed!

Also, I will be the first author to ever market a novel using his own homemade sex tape. We'll see if the notoriety of that gets me anywhere. I'm filming an intro to the tape using local actors as well.

It's not just a book release, it's an art project.




If you could predict revolutions, they wouldn't happen. ;)

who the hell wants to read that shit? i'd rather watch a movie when a nomadic lion takes over a pride and mates with his new females instead

[Jason00S2000]

Seriously?


Living and interacting with people in an urban environment is far, far different than living in Langley. Absolutely huge differences in lifestyle.

[parm104]

Living and interacting with people in an urban environment is far, far different than living in Langley. Absolutely huge differences in lifestyle.

This is going no where...lol

[knight604]

I think you've been talking about so called famous books in every thread, maybe you should do that when you are actually a #1 seller or get it published.

Because all i hear is :spamarama::bla

[Akinari]

Living and interacting with people in an urban environment is far, far different than living in Langley. Absolutely huge differences in lifestyle.
Do you live in a fucking cave or something? Do you have any idea what the majority of people who can afford to reside in White Rock, do or did for a living? Ever heard of Ocean Park? How about Crescent Beach? Yeah, didn't think so.

Get your facts straight kiddo.

[68style]

^
He lived in White Rock before moving downtown lol

[diesel_test]

^
He lived in White Rock before moving downtown lol

anybody can make 15 an hour and live downtown. it aint diffucult

you pay 2k for rent and you still have 400 to spend eat whatever you like:fullofwin:

[Akinari]

^
He lived in White Rock before moving downtown lol
Irrelevant. It's like what the above poster says, anyone can live downtown with a steady source of income, especially when OP does not have a car.

[Energy]

I don't get the appeal of this guy. Who wants to spend their whole life just doing drugs and having sex? Does that really give you happiness and satisfaction? In the end you are just a slave to your own selfish desires.

I want to see a sample of this so called work of art. If I can stand to read 5 pages maybe you have a shot at minor success. The thing you need to understand is that the odds are against you. People come up with "ideas" everyday. For every revolution and every guy like Steve Jobs there are thousands, even tens of thousands that fail. I can't predict the next revolution but I'm willing to bet you're not it.

Btw, you creating this thread is like you trying to subtly tell us that your book will make you money. Don't try to deny it.

Just like how you keep going on and on about this random girl you banged on some side street at whatever time.

Are you that desperate for attention or are you trying to impress us or are you just seeking approval?

[68style]

Irrelevant. It's like what the above poster says, anyone can live downtown with a steady source of income, especially when OP does not have a car.

I don't know where you were getting that I was talking about affordability of downtown. It's relevant because he's trolling you making fun of White Rock, I recall him having nothing but good things to say about living there.

[AAnthony]

Irrelevant.

Its completely relevant genius.
If he used to live in White Rock, that meanins he's obviously aware of Whie Rock housing prices, and affluent neighbourhoods such as Ocean Park, and Crescent beach.

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[Yodamaster]

It's said that whenever someone takes out a mortgage on a condo downtown, the unicorn men assemble on the peak of Cathedral Mountain and shed the tears of Atlantis onto the frigid earth.

[Jason00S2000]

Its completely relevant genius. He lived in White Rock he's obviously aware about White Rock housing prices, and affluent neighbourhoods such as Ocean Park, and Crescent beach.
No need to educate the masses...
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All vanilla. Walking around White Rock and there is no art, no fascinating characters, no taste.


Living down here for 4 years and participating in the art scene, having met so many interesting people, I could never go back to White Rock. I would feel suffocated in a world of grey commuter cars and black pea coats.

[sdubfid]

loftscene.net gastown's #1 no car and urban environment interacting site

If you are actually releasing a book and getting it published, good for you and aim high. How many copies are you making? Doesn't appeal to me or make sense to me but neither does Justin Beiber.

[Jason00S2000]

Who wants to spend their whole life just doing drugs and having sex? Does that really give you happiness and satisfaction?

No, but art does. Sex, drugs, and women are merely a by-product of being an artist.

In the end you are just a slave to your own selfish desires.

I am a slave to eating, shitting, fucking, and sleeping. Aren't we all?

[PJ]

Not taking sides.. as I'm a writer myself.

Just out of curiosity. Jason, have you finished any of your manuscripts?

You're saying you have 3 books, but are they complete/edited? Are you going the self-publishing or traditional publishing route? If you're self publishing, you have to do everything from marketing to cover design to barcode registration to copyrighting and so on. It's not an easy task. Thousands of self-published books get released every week, and less than 10% of the total ebooks out there will make enough to pay for your monthly phone bill. If you're hoping for traditional publishing, it has to show in your work that you've put the time and effort into polishing it to the best it can be.

At the risk of sounding self-indulged, I've been writing for 5+ hours a day (including holidays) for the last 5 months. I've only been sleeping ~5 hours a night, and have been editing my manuscript back and forth with my agent for over 2 months now. To this day, I'm still putting in ~5 hours a day to make sure it's ready for publishing.

I'm actually committing myself and doing the work, and consequently, have hefty publishing deals lined up for me to choose from.

You seem to be spending a lot of time researching what car to buy next, and how much money this person or that person makes.

I know it's common for us writers to get ridiculed. But if you actually sit down and write, good things can happen. Like I said a couple pages back, it's not uncommon for novels to get 5 to 6 figure advances. I know a handful of people personally who've made it, but they actually put in their time and effort. Counting your chickens before they hatch is a major no-no.

Good luck.

[bcrdukes]

Art is for fags.

So I guess this makes Jason a fag?

[Jason00S2000]

loftscene.net gastown's #1 no car and urban environment interacting site

If you are actually releasing a book and getting it published, good for you and aim high. How many copies are you making? Doesn't appeal to me or make sense to me but neither does Justin Beiber.


Using Amazon's KDP program for the eBook, and createSpace allows customers that purchase the book to print-on-demand for a small fee. I still get 70% royalties.

eBook price: $9.69
Book price: $12.69 (-4.XX for the printer costs )


I originally made this post because I was thinking, what sort of income would I need to start having more influence on the art and creativity scene in Vancouver/Canada/The World?

#SaveBCFilm people seem to think that there is NO MONEY for film here. If I were making 100k a month, I would be funding projects left and right.

Maybe my ambition will rub off on someone who sits around with a ton of money, and no desire to make an impact on the world other than buying cars and dating gold diggers. Probably not. :okay:

[Jason00S2000]

Not taking sides.. as I'm a writer myself.

Just out of curiosity. Jason, have you finished any of your manuscripts?


Yeah, I have my first novel finished and polished up. I finished it 6 months ago, and I spent the rest of the time polishing up the book, the cover, getting the ISBN, figuring out my pricing, the marketing, getting in shape and coming up with my own style to help market it as well. A book is merely a book without the weight and authenticity of it's message. It's a really globalist look on dating, and far different than what people will expect it to be. It really acknowledges that we're living in a time of MASSIVE shifts in culture and tradition.

I mean, shit, what if I can prove to other authors that my sex tape helps me sell books? Will other authors copy me? Certainly they will if I make a bunch of cash from it.

How insane would it be to live in a world where books are advertised with porn?


The next book is about a chick that wrestles with her sexuality after meeting a beautiful and assertive rebellious woman.
The 3rd book is about, well, a DJ in space, and these lizards looking for music to help an egg hatch... it will be my first novel that doesn't revolve around Vancouver and sex. I have like 10+ other book ideas written down. I know porn will always provide an income to survive on, I just have to master telling interesting stories and the marketing to get them in front of people in the meantime.

[Yodamaster]

Using Amazon's KDP program for the eBook, and createSpace allows customers that purchase the book to print-on-demand for a small feel.

http://i.imgur.com/i2oCo.png




A decent amount of money, but if you work at it, someone might notice you.

[Harvey Specter]

I don't get the appeal of this guy. Who wants to spend their whole life just doing drugs and having sex? Does that really give you happiness and satisfaction? In the end you are just a slave to your own selfish desires.

I want to see a sample of this so called work of art. If I can stand to read 5 pages maybe you have a shot at minor success. The thing you need to understand is that the odds are against you. People come up with "ideas" everyday. For every revolution and every guy like Steve Jobs there are thousands, even tens of thousands that fail. I can't predict the next revolution but I'm willing to bet you're not it.

Btw, you creating this thread is like you trying to subtly tell us that your book will make you money. Don't try to deny it.

Just like how you keep going on and on about this random girl you banged on some side street at whatever time.

Are you that desperate for attention or are you trying to impress us or are you just seeking approval?

I'd personally hate to be rich, do drugs and have sex with random women for the rest of my life. It's all if you have that lifestyle when you're in your 20's but when you're over 30, come on.

I'd rather have a enough money were I can live and retire comfortably, have a loving wife and a couple kids. Money and materialistic things don't do much when you're 40+, you wake up in the morning looking like a crack addict from the night before with some aids infested slut lying beside who doesn't care if you're dead or alive, she only cares about getting paid. And money doesn't do shit for you when you're lonely and miserable and the only people left around you are moneygrubbing whores.

[Jason00S2000]

I'd personally hate to be rich, do drugs and have sex with random women for the rest of my life. It's all if you have that lifestyle when you're in your 20's but when you're over 30, come on.


Hugh Hefner looks pretty freakin' happy!

Some people are happy praying 5 times a day, working as a humble taxi driver, and living a quiet life.

There isn't one defined path to joy. :)

[Lomac]

#SaveBCFilm people seem to think that there is NO MONEY for film here.

Too many people in the SaveBCFilm camp are idiots to take that petition as seriously as it should be.

[Jason00S2000]

http://i.imgur.com/i2oCo.png
A decent amount of money, but if you work at it, someone might notice you.


Does anyone know who that rapper guy is on Granville? The dude who raps in public during the summer?

I've seen people jeer him and tell him to shut up, and I love the way he adds it into his raps. He's getting better, too.

I bet that guy has so many people telling him to "get a real job" and to "get an education."

I donate cash to him whenever I can, those hustlers are the lifeblood of art.

[Yodamaster]

Does anyone know who that rapper guy is on Granville? The dude who raps in public during the summer?

I've seen people jeer him and tell him to shut up, and I love the way he adds it into his raps. He's getting better, too.

I bet that guy has so many people telling him to "get a real job" and to "get an education."

I donate cash to him whenever I can, those hustlers are the lifeblood of art.


I've seen a few good street level performers, don't see why so many people discourage them, it's pathetic really.

[Jason00S2000]

I've seen a few good street level performers, don't see why so many people discourage them, it's pathetic really.

The nail that sticks up the highest...


Gets hammered down.

[Iceman-19]

I don't get the appeal of this guy. Who wants to spend their whole life just doing drugs and having sex? Does that really give you happiness and satisfaction? In the end you are just a slave to your own selfish desires.

I want to see a sample of this so called work of art. If I can stand to read 5 pages maybe you have a shot at minor success. The thing you need to understand is that the odds are against you. People come up with "ideas" everyday. For every revolution and every guy like Steve Jobs there are thousands, even tens of thousands that fail. I can't predict the next revolution but I'm willing to bet you're not it.

Btw, you creating this thread is like you trying to subtly tell us that your book will make you money. Don't try to deny it.

Just like how you keep going on and on about this random girl you banged on some side street at whatever time.

Are you that desperate for attention or are you trying to impress us or are you just seeking approval?
I don't know about you, or anyone else here, but I would much rather be a slave to my own selfish desires, as opposed to being a slave to what society says I should be a slave to. Just because people don't follow the normal path doesnt make it right or wrong, it makss it their own life. I would much rather come in here and read jasons provoking posts, over reading about the new matte wrap some powered by mom and dad got on his new bmw/audi/whatever. There is nothing forcing you to read his posts, yet you do. He has created thoughtful discussion. As an artist, any press is good press. Keep it up Jason, if you can pm me the name and release date if your book I would like to grab a copy when it hits shelves.

[Isaiah11]

easy on the drugs, including alcohol

no plans for kids?

[hud 91gt]

I kind of laugh at some of the insight in this thread. Do some people realize kids, family and living in suburbia is not everyones pot of tea? I mean, i'm reading this and thinking, Jason should go straight to the loonie bin, but that goes for most artists. Without art, this place would be a pretty boring place. Just like Jason said, Whiterock is full of commuter cars and black peacoats. Borrrrinng. Probably the way i'd like to end up as I measure success like most, with materialistic items, and believe security will bring less stress, in turn happiness can prevail. Although incredibly boring. Let him be. Although I must say Jason, you've created quite the stir and talk is in the air... Good job ;)

[AAnthony]

You have been placed on this earth to discover your own path.
You will never be happy if you live someone else's idea of life.
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[The7even]

Jason has a big dick.. my mom would know.

[dinosaur]

Jason is just as desperate for attention as the whores he fucks.

[snails]

Jason is just as desperate for attention as the whores he says he fucks.

:badpokerface:

[Akinari]

Jason has a big dick.. my mom would know.
What dick :troll:

[Gridlock]

Hugh Hefner looks pretty freakin' happy!

Some people are happy praying 5 times a day, working as a humble taxi driver, and living a quiet life.

There isn't one defined path to joy. :)

But you crap on anyone that gets their happiness from a successful marriage and having kids.

Fuck, I don't give a goddamn what type of house you have. To me, 6500 square feet sounds like too many rooms to dust and furnish-but to someone else, its paradise. But you crap on it because they aren't pursuing hoes and getting high. You almost act like they are settling for the life they want because they can't handle yours.

[Energy]

But you crap on anyone that gets their happiness from a successful marriage and having kids.


Yes. You make your life sound so nice and the only way to go when it really isn't.

[Hondaracer]

Gridlock and dinosaur must be the most annoying fucking people on earth to actually know in person..
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[RRxtar]

I have to give Jason credit. His quasi-trolling in the last few weeks has drawn attention to this author character he is trying to create and it is giving him a little publicity for his upcoming book.

Now you all know about his book, and it is creating interest in it. So good job for that Jason.

Its not always the brightest light bulb that gets looked at the most. Sometimes its the one that is a funny colour, or maybe flickers a bit that gets the attention.



All this thread needs is Marco now.

[dinosaur]

Gridlock and dinosaur must be the most annoying fucking people on earth to actually know in person..
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:fullofwin:

[Gridlock]

Gridlock and dinosaur must be the most annoying fucking people on earth to actually know in person..
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Well, I think Dinosaur is a fucking delight.

[Hondaracer]

:okay: :troll:
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[Jason00S2000]

But you crap on anyone that gets their happiness from a successful marriage and having kids.


I should make it clear:

I am very glad that there are all different types of people out there. I know a few very happy married men with kids. Not as many as I would expect, given how many people I know who have been married/in LTR.

I also know quite a few guys who did it "the normal way" who ended up divorced/dumped/unable to see their kids. Many of them are miserable, and frankly, they act like their lives are destroyed. I think a lot of people feel under a ton of pressure through friends and family to "put a ring on it" when they had very real doubts in the back of their minds. On the other hand, I know a few real lotharios who talk like they really want a relationship, but they hook up and bang many more women than I do without the ability to stop. They literally learned how to romance women through watching pornography.

Maybe my greatest goal is to show other men, and women, that there are more paths to happiness. Ultimately, choosing the Hypa or Jason route isn't an either or. There are many shades of colour in-between, and perhaps if someone like Hypa wrote a book about his path to happiness, other men could gain insight into what it took to create the person he is today.

One of the biggest challenges of the 21st century is to find happiness. There are reasons why so many people are on anti-depressants.

[Gridlock]

I should make it clear:

I am very glad that there are all different types of people out there. I know a few very happy married men with kids. Not as many as I would expect, given how many people I know who have been married/in LTR.

I also know quite a few guys who did it "the normal way" who ended up divorced/dumped/unable to see their kids. Many of them are miserable, and frankly, they act like their lives are destroyed. I think a lot of people feel under a ton of pressure through friends and family to "put a ring on it" when they had very real doubts in the back of their minds. On the other hand, I know a few real lotharios who talk like they really want a relationship, but they hook up and bang many more women than I do without the ability to stop. They literally learned how to romance women through watching pornography.

Maybe my greatest goal is to show other men, and women, that there are more paths to happiness. Ultimately, choosing the Hypa or Jason route isn't an either or. There are many shades of colour in-between, and perhaps if someone like Hypa wrote a book about his path to happiness, other men could gain insight into what it took to create the person he is today.

One of the biggest challenges of the 21st century is to find happiness. There are reasons why so many people are on anti-depressants.

Humanity is glad you approve. :)

[beproud]

Unfortunately with my attitude, I will never make money like a motherf***** eh lol:(
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[RRxtar]

perhaps if someone like Hypa wrote a book about his path to happiness, other men could gain insight into what it took to create the person he is today.
probably not. because building a successful life like hypa has takes a shit ton of hard work and dedication to your goals starting at an early age (early/mid 20s). i made a shit load of sacrifices in my mid 20s to start a business to set my plans to follow the hypa life model. it wouldn't make an interesting story.

and i think the reason a lot of people end up in the mid 30s+ bangin sluts lifestyle is their resentment to the idea of actually putting in sustained effort into something. especially making sacrifices from a young age.

it is a whole lot easier to say 'fuck it' to the norm and travel and party than it is to do the grind to follow the norm.

people like me, or im sure hypa, don't have the ability to spend a lifetime shooting for the hole in 1 that may or may not ever come. polishing your game shooting for par can, infact, be as rewarding and far less stressful.

maybe that's another sign im getting older.

[Hondaracer]

I think too many people in society and here on RS shoot for that stereotypical "normal" life where you've got a wife a dog a couple kids and a house with a mini van in the driveway, those ideals may have been well intentioned for a bit older generation but these days that shit doesn't fly for alot of people that even want it to work so desperately, divorce, cost of living, and other external and internal factors can ruin people in these traditional relationships/lifestyles

I was talking to the GF the other day about life and the future, kids etc and I've pretty much decided against having kids due to mainly the shit that kids have to deal with these days, and it's only going to get worse and I'd be afraid I could never be as good a parent as mine were to me

As well, I've travelled fairly extensively but feel like I've been no where. I look at these people I grew up with who had kids at 19-25 and they've done NOTHING besides raise their kids. Hey if that's what you wanted in your life all the power to you but I'm not nearly ready to be locked down in my life, a mortgage is more than enough to trap most people. freedom to do what you want when you is want is invaluable to me, and I don't see anywhere down the road where things are going to change

Also, who cares what my legacy was when I'm dead? Am I going to come back as a butterfly to see what my namesakes have done?
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[hud 91gt]

^Well said. This was for RRxtar's post

[Jason00S2000]

resentment to the idea of actually putting in sustained effort into something.

Selling porn is a straight up hustle. There is a reason why there are only a few people who do what I do independently; and thrive! You need to have a strong psyche.

Also, I worked on my book for a year. Writing requires serious effort. Of course, some authors just pen absolute crap that they whip up in weeks, home-photoshop a cover, and hit the publish button on Amazon.

How I do what I do is a sustained effort for sure, but one with a less concrete end-game than the mainstream route to a career.

[RRxtar]

a whole year?! someone should build you a statue.

a year out of your life is about the same amount of time as taking a shit in a day.

trying getting a real education. or building a business. or moving up thru a career company. or invent something and put it to market. that takes 4+ years and is hardly a splash when you look back on it.

[Jason00S2000]

trying getting a real education.

There is a ton of shit in life that school cannot prepare you for.

[Tapioca]

All this thread needs is Marco now.
Agreed.

Where's the hustler who did it the old-fashioned way? (Education and corporate schmoozing?)
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[diesel_test]

Selling porn is a straight up hustle. There is a reason why there are only a few people who do what I do independently; and thrive! You need to have a strong psyche.

Also, I worked on my book for a year. Writing requires serious effort. Of course, some authors just pen absolute crap that they whip up in weeks, home-photoshop a cover, and hit the publish button on Amazon.

How I do what I do is a sustained effort for sure, but one with a less concrete end-game than the mainstream route to a career.

why would anybody pay $$$ to read a stupid book when you get to discover porn in a more interesting way

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1alLLnXdwbQ:fullofwin:

[AAnthony]

Jason: "I don't believe in miracles. I rely on them" :lol

This was a pretty beauty thread tho, I'm glad it happened
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[Jason00S2000]

Jason: "I don't believe in miracles. I rely on them"
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Failure is an option in your world?

[AAnthony]

Well played!

I'm only 23 tho; failure is actually a necessity in my life. I like to think of failure as a free lesson in how not to do things. Another upside to failing is that you learn valuable lessons from it. If one fails and learns a valuable lesson from it, is still considered a failure?

I've made many mistakes in my life, now that I look back on it I realize that those failures were so insignificant. Yet the lessons learnt have still stuck with me. Also, I'm a very "trial and error" kind of guy, if I never made errors I would never learn anything.

I was more so referring to you putting all your eggs into one basket.
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[punkwax]

I will be the first author to ever market a novel using his own homemade sex tape.

:lawl:

Oh man, that made my day. Sig worthy.

Kinda OT but I think this whole thread derailed a long time ago... I personally love all the characters on RS. There should be a reality show with some of the more prominent figures around here. I'll leave user names out, but I can think of plenty of elitists, dirtbags, assholes, pervs and decent honest people alike to make me wanna watch if you put them all in one house lol

[bcrdukes]

:lawl:

Oh man, that made my day. Sig worthy.

Kinda OT but I think this whole thread derailed a long time ago... I personally love all the characters on RS. There should be a reality show with some of the more prominent figures around here. I'll leave user names out, but I can think of plenty of elitists, dirtbags, assholes, pervs and decent honest people alike to make me wanna watch if you put them all in one house lol

You should post the usernames to get the ball rolling, you know, so Jason could write a book about it and casually change the usernames around so he doesn't get sued.

[punkwax]

^ lol. We all know you just wanna see what category you'd be in, Dukes.. ;)

[originalhypa]

If you live in a world where you really think that's all there is, I truly, truly, feel sorry for you.


First off, keep your pity to yourself, I don't need it.
I just can't get over just how ignorant and immature this statement is. My life blossomed when my kids were born and I began to build a life for them and myself/wife. I don't expect anyone who hasn't experienced it to understand. However, I have lived Jason's life. If you think for one minute that his way is the right way, then you have a serious mental deficiency. What bugs me, is that he's recruiting similar "weak" minded individuals not much different than what Amway does. Easy money, fun times. Don't believe it? Look at the guys who failed me.

I simply said that by NOT living Jason's "fuck, drink, get high" lifestyle that I was able to focus on making money and creating a LEGACY for myself. A legacy that includes birthing new people who have been taught to work hard and use their skills. A legacy that guarantees that I can take a couple days off work to take my son to his hockey tournaments. A legacy that allows me to live a fine life while averaging 5 hours of work a day. It took 18 years to get to that point, but I'm here now.

If you don't get that, then I have no reason to continue with this thread.

Looking at the thanks and fails, I see that some of us get it while others don't.

To those who failed me, come back in 10 years and see where your life has taken you. If you're worth millions, then I apologize in advance because obviously you were right. However to those who subscribed to the Jason lifestyle I say, "Yes I would like fries with that".

[Energy]

However to those who subscribed to the Jason lifestyle I say, "Yes I would like fries with that".

:fullofwin:

[Gridlock]

I have a problem with anyone convincing anyone that their lifestyle is THE way.

Isn't that our problem with people/friends that involved in the following things:

Amway
Primerica
Church/religion

They find over-priced home products/unique home business opportunity/Jesus and instantly, you need to be convinced to also find the light at the end of the long, cold dark tunnel you exist in where you buy your dish soap at a store/buy your insurance from an agent/just live well without praying about it once a week.

Same difference here.

I'm honestly not trying to crap on your life, but dude, you come across as desperate in seeking the admiration of the group here to justify the decisions you make. Just what I'm getting.

Fuck, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the book will be a hit. See..I don't need to convince you to stop to validate that I didn't start.

[JD¹³]

I will be immortal through novels.
I will be the first author to ever market a novel using his own homemade sex tape.

It's not just a book release, it's an art project.
If I start making some good money through novels, ya'll muthafuckas going to be hatin' on the shit I post after that, guaranteed!
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h341/net0ranger/mj-laughing.gif

Get real bud. In true junkie fashion you're a cockroach that thinks he's a god.

[parm104]

It's amusing to me that he doesn't want to get caught up in a materialistic world of wealth but he talks about "making money" non-stop. Talks about making money to the extent where others will get sickened by the amount he is making...But he doesn't value it...

...I've always lived by a principle that I still stand by today...Those who have truly earned financial wealth, don't need to talk about it. Those who have not, are always talking as if they have. Those who have everything need not mention it. Those who have nothing are constantly struggling to show others that they have it all.

Why would anyone talk about how wealthy they're GOING to be...? Do you know how easy that is? To TALK!? You keep saying I'm going to be this and I'm going to be that....Talk about it less, brag about it less, become that person and then come back and say "fuck you guys...I told you." Until then, you have no ground to stand on, you've done nothing that supports your credibility for success.

For those who think this little "stir" is creating positive marketing for this guy...you're so wrong. None of us are going to say to ourself "oh we're so irritated by this guy so now we're going to buy his "book!"" Come on, get real...

[RRxtar]

For those who think this little "stir" is creating positive marketing for this guy...you're so wrong. None of us are going to say to ourself "oh we're so irritated by this guy so now we're going to buy his "book!"" Come on, get real...
that's not true, I may download it illegally to see what all the fuss is about :ilied:

[PJ]

First off, keep your pity to yourself, I don't need it.
I just can't get over just how ignorant and immature this statement is. My life blossomed when my kids were born and I began to build a life for them and myself/wife. I don't expect anyone who hasn't experienced it to understand. However, I have lived Jason's life. If you think for one minute that his way is the right way, then you have a serious mental deficiency.


MY statement is ignorant?

I never once said that Jason's way of life is the right way.

What pissed me off was your condescendence towards people who aren't following the path of going to school, going to work, buying a house, and having kids. That life works for you, great. You don't have to rub your superiority in the faces of people who chose a different path.

I graduated early and became an engineer at 20. I could've easily saved up, bought a house, invested, and so on. But I chose to pursue my other passions of the arts. That's what fulfills me. Is it the best financial decision? No. But I wouldn't have it any other way.

Jason's life is irresponsible, outlandish, and even offensive.

But he's happy being broke and nailing broads. You're happy taking your kids to hockey games.
Take the money and conventionalism out of the equation, and you're both just doing what makes you happy. You can't compare levels of happiness.
You're both alive and can put food on the table. The rest is subjective noise.

[parm104]

MY statement is ignorant?

I never once said that Jason's way of life is the right way.

What pissed me off was your condescendence towards people who aren't following the path of going to school, going to work, buying a house, and having kids. That life works for you, great. You don't have to rub your superiority in the faces of people who chose a different path.

I graduated early and became an engineer at 20. I could've easily saved up, bought a house, invested, and so on. But I chose to pursue my other passions of the arts. That's what fulfills me. Is it the best financial decision? No. But I wouldn't have it any other way.

Jason's life is irresponsible, outlandish, and even offensive.

But he's happy being broke and nailing broads. You're happy taking your kids to hockey games.
Take the money and conventionalism out of the equation, and you're both just doing what makes you happy. You can't compare levels of happiness.
You're both alive and can put food on the table. The rest is subjective noise.

PJ, you sound like a very smart guy and from what you're written, you probably are. But, I think you may have jumped into this conversation a little late and perhaps missed a series of events.

Hypa didn't come in here scrutinizing Jason's lifestyle...He came in here after Jason continued to rant about how his lifestyle is dominant to those who have chosen the alternate...Hypa came in to show him the contrary and that he is successful AND HAPPY and went a different route. You're making him out to be some guy who's looking down on everyone who hasn't done things his way, which is far from the case. He's simply saying that he's gone that route that Jason's criticizing and scrutinizing and constantly trying to bring down....and he's HAPPIER than he's ever been and wouldn't trade it for anything.

Don't make this a battle between people who have chosen education and the current traditional way of life against those who have not. I am one who believes in education and has chosen that route but don't feel that everyone should do it or else die...Neither does Hypa or anyone else that's commented on this stance thus far...

Now let's remember what has brought us all together here in the first place....it's our common hatred for Jason's bullshit stories and crackhead fairy tales. WE MUST NEVER FORGET THIS COMMONALITY!

[bcrdukes]

I just ordered some pizza and threw in a handful of kernels into the popcorn machine.

Dis gun be good.

[PJ]

But, I think you may have jumped into this conversation a little late and perhaps missed a series of events.

Hypa didn't come in here scrutinizing Jason's lifestyle...He came in here after Jason continued to rant about how his lifestyle is dominant to those who have chosen the alternate...

Looks like I did skip over Jason's criticisms of the working-man's life. Maybe I'm just used to skimming right through his random/OT posts :lawl:

As long as both sides are alive and happy, no lifestyle is dominant over any other.

But I will say that people who do chase a dream live more colourful lives.
Mind you, some people's dreams are, in fact, raising kids and living within the norm. And that's awesome. But that's no more and no less "real" than people whose dreams are to climb Everest.

(I'll probably get failed for this, but whatever.) To SLIGHTLY second what Jason MIGHT be trying to say, is that given the amount of time, anyone can slug through school, sit in an office, and tap away on a calculator. But not everyone has the courage to stray from that.

There are people who love being accountants/engineers/whatever, but there are also people who hate it, and just do it because that's what everyone else is doing. On the other end of the spectrum, there is no one who chases an unconventional dream just because everyone else is doing it. These people do it for themselves, because that's what truly fulfills them. So to play devil's advocate, I say Jason's argument wins over the minority (hopefully) who sticks to the norm just because they're afraid to venture outside of the box.

[Meowjin]

I wish you guys knew what bipolar really was.

[AAnthony]

^ why is that even relevant in this thread?

It's gone this far off track already ... Fuck it! Let's talk about Bipolar
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[Gridlock]

:suspicious:PJ, you sound like a very smart guy and from what you're written, you probably are. But, I think you may have jumped into this conversation a little late and perhaps missed a series of events.

Hypa didn't come in here scrutinizing Jason's lifestyle...He came in here after Jason continued to rant about how his lifestyle is dominant to those who have chosen the alternate...Hypa came in to show him the contrary and that he is successful AND HAPPY and went a different route. You're making him out to be some guy who's looking down on everyone who hasn't done things his way, which is far from the case. He's simply saying that he's gone that route that Jason's criticizing and scrutinizing and constantly trying to bring down....and he's HAPPIER than he's ever been and wouldn't trade it for anything.

Don't make this a battle between people who have chosen education and the current traditional way of life against those who have not. I am one who believes in education and has chosen that route but don't feel that everyone should do it or else die...Neither does Hypa or anyone else that's commented on this stance thus far...

Now let's remember what has brought us all together here in the first place....it's our common hatred for Jason's bullshit stories and crackhead fairy tales. WE MUST NEVER FORGET THIS COMMONALITY!

Lets take it easy on him now, and keep those hits above the belt. The last thing we need is yet another crap on so and so thread. They're cheap.

[Jason00S2000]

What will be even more interesting, is when the book comes out, and the character eerily sounds like Hypa and Parm!

Shit, if any of you guys make it to the launch party, I'll give you a signed copy, along with a triple on ice, free.

Still trying to figure out what venue to host it at in Gastown.

[punkwax]

Honestly, I was interested in the book until you mentioned the sex tape. If the book comes with a sex tape, there is no way I buy it. Did you think of that? Buying a book is one thing, buying a sex tape / book combo is a whole other ballgame. Not sure how you'd sell a sex tape at a book store though so I assume they are separate and not sure how you would get the exposure to use the sex tape as a marketing tool? :confused: Or buy the book and get a voucher of sorts for the sex tape?

Why am I even asking lol..

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

If you do what normal people do, you're going to get what normal people get.

that's all I'm going to say.

[Jason00S2000]

Honestly, I was interested in the book until you mentioned the sex tape. If the book comes with a sex tape, there is no way I buy it. Did you think of that? Buying a book is one thing, buying a sex tape / book combo is a whole other ballgame. Not sure how you'd sell a sex tape at a book store though so I assume they are separate and not sure how you would get the exposure to use the sex tape as a marketing tool? :confused: Or buy the book and get a voucher of sorts for the sex tape?

Why am I even asking lol..


No, I'm releasing the tape online, on adult tube sites, for free. I will try and get the movie a few million views in February. I have to try and see if someone can sell a book with porn. Nobody has tried it before.

I'm also planning on shooting a short film, like, 1 minute long, that introduces the porn tape. My friend has a RED Scarlet so I might hire him. Still figuring it out with less than a month to release!

[punkwax]

I think it would sense to market the book with a free online code for the sex vid. I'm sure a lot of lonely cat ladies would buy it because they would be intrigued to see the actual author bone.

Mind you I guess its easier to get people to watch porn than buy a book so you'd get a broader audience with your approach..

[Jason00S2000]

I think it would sense to market the book with a free online code for the sex vid. I'm sure a lot of lonely cat ladies would buy it because they would be intrigued to see the actual author bone.

I'm giving it away for free, with an advertisement built into the movie.


Mind you I guess its easier to get people to watch porn than buy a book so you'd get a broader audience with your approach..

Exactly.

[knight604]

What a joke , hahahahahahahaha
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[Jason00S2000]

What a joke , hahahahahahahaha
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Actually, I think most people would agree that it's a great way of reaching an audience. A lot of modern men and women surf porn. But do they read? We'll find out.

[originalhypa]

As long as both sides are alive and happy, no lifestyle is dominant over any other.

Depends on what view you take, micro or macro.
In a micro view, you're happy today and that's all that counts. But what does that do for the greater good? What does fucking hoes and doing drugs do for society? Has he volunteered any time? Does he give anything back?

It's a bit abstract, sure. But I've officially run out of things to say on the subject.
My brain is actually full of fuck.

WE MUST NEVER FORGET THIS COMMONALITY!

Viva la revelucion!
:buttrock:

What will be even more interesting, is when the book comes out, and the character eerily sounds like Hypa and Parm!

Shit, if any of you guys make it to the launch party, I'll give you a signed copy, along with a triple on ice, free.

Still trying to figure out what venue to host it at in Gastown.

As long as the hypa character has a huge cawk, great hair, and is good at hockey we're cool.

so pretty much the opposite of me.

:D

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

Depends on what view you take, micro or macro.
In a micro view, you're happy today and that's all that counts. But what does that do for the greater good? What does fucking hoes and doing drugs do for society? Has he volunteered any time? Does he give anything back?


what if you become a multi millionaire... and all you do is give society some money.. you donate it to something. you give away more money than the average person makes in their entire life time (in the country you reside in).

doesn't that mean you've already contributed more than what most people do in their entire lifetime?

even your spending style stimulates the economy more than a bunch of families combined.


what do normal people do for the greater good? they're just little gears in the machine. as long as they keep well oiled, work hard and just keep working... that's their only contribution.

the rich contribute in monetary terms... the more you make the more you spend... it's already self fulfilling in terms of "giving back".

unless you just hoard the money and never spend a dime and never give your money away.

[RRxtar]

stand up straight, be a man, do what is morally right, and not contribute to the pussification of society is one way you can contribute.

[originalhypa]

stand up straight, be a man, do what is morally right, and not contribute to the pussification of society is one way you can contribute.

werd!

i contribute 10 hours a week teaching boys to be not only hockey players, but respectful, hard working little men. that's my skill set and is my responsibility to share that.

glad you posted this because again ulic missed my point completely.
:okay:

[drunkrussian]

what do normal people do for the greater good? they're just little gears in the machine. as long as they keep well oiled, work hard and just keep working... that's their only contribution.

u answered your own question. without the cogs in the machine, there would be no machine. normal people work to keep
businesses running - businesses that serve other normal people and keep money production running. without the normal people the rich would not have anyone to work in their companies, or serve them while on vacation. without normal people the rich would not be rich. a company can function with an underpaid exec team consisting of normal people. can a company function with no normal people at all? nope
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[originalhypa]

Well said drunkrussian.
And to be completely honest, who offers more to society?

The porn broker who is more likely to offer your daughter/cousin/niece cash to show her titties? Something that has been proven to limit a woman's choices in the future (http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/19/local/la-me-0120-porn-teacher-20130120)

Or the guy who works in the lab as a radiologist?
Or the lady who spends time finding work for the handicapped?
Or the guy who drives them to work in the bus?

Who is more important to society?
Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian? Or Dr. Jonas Salk who cured Polio?

[Jason00S2000]

Well said drunkrussian.
And to be completely honest, who offers more to society?

Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian? Or Dr. Jonas Salk who cured Polio?


Keep in mind that even the lowly pornographer is important to society as the canary in the coal mine.

Look at pornography laws around the world, and you will see that they correlate directly with the levels of freedom you find in those countries.

In a true fascist/totalitarian state, the pornographer would be the first to go,
Pornography is like the barometer of freedom.

Perhaps Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian appeal to women as role models? Good looking, famous, wealthy, and having fun!

[JaPoola]

Well said drunkrussian.
And to be completely honest, who offers more to society?

The porn broker who is more likely to offer your daughter/cousin/niece cash to show her titties? Something that has been proven to limit a woman's choices in the future (Teacher who was in porn films must decide whether to appeal firing - Los Angeles Times (http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/19/local/la-me-0120-porn-teacher-20130120))

Or the guy who works in the lab as a radiologist?
Or the lady who spends time finding work for the handicapped?
Or the guy who drives them to work in the bus?

Who is more important to society?
Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian? Or Dr. Jonas Salk who cured Polio?

Radiologists don't work in labs.

[parm104]

Radiologists don't work in labs.

....yes they do/can.

[drunkrussian]

Who is more important to society?
Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian? Or Dr. Jonas Salk who cured Polio?


Keep in mind that even the lowly pornographer is important to society as the canary in the coal mine.

Look at pornography laws around the world, and you will see that they correlate directly with the levels of freedom you find in those countries.

In a true fascist/totalitarian state, the pornographer would be the first to go,
Pornography is like the barometer of freedom.

Perhaps Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian appeal to women as role models? Good looking, famous, wealthy, and having fun!

in my opinion porn brokers are important. Since beginings of our society sex and its exploitation has played a crucial role. We are a species that has sex for more than just breeding in my opinion and it only makes sense that pornogrpahy and other sex-based industries would pop up. If you watch porn or visit a strip club or get turned on when Olivia Munn is on a late night talk show, you should admit that what you're watching may not be as serious a mechanism as healing someone, but it certainly has some sort of importance.

On that note, i think the entire idea of comparing x to y, in terms of what's MORE or LESS important to society, is pointless. Society is full of niches that need to be filled and they work together to make a greater whole. This whole concept assumes that everything is EQUALLY important, as it adds a different type of value in its own unique way. Based on many cultural standards, a healer is more noble than a sex provider, who is often ridiculed, but noble does not equal important. Both are equally important, in different ways. I know it sounds crazy that i'm over here essentially saying anna nicole smith is equivalent to mother theresa.

[Energy]

Keep in mind that even the lowly pornographer is important to society as the canary in the coal mine.

Look at pornography laws around the world, and you will see that they correlate directly with the levels of freedom you find in those countries.

In a true fascist/totalitarian state, the pornographer would be the first to go,
Pornography is like the barometer of freedom.

Perhaps Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian appeal to women as role models? Good looking, famous, wealthy, and having fun!

The pornographer plays the same role in society as the coliseums did in ancient Rome. Appease the masses, give them bread and circuses.

The amount of porn one watches is inversely related to how busy and productive they are. If you watch a lot of porn that indicates that you have a lot of free time that could be used for bettering yourself or contributing to society.

[Jason00S2000]

If you watch a lot of porn that indicates that you have a lot of free time that could be used for bettering yourself or contributing to society.

With that same logic, World of Warcraft is as bad, or worse, than porn!

[RRxtar]

^it is.

i just saw a thread where people were talking about having 800-1000 DAYS of playing time in that game. that is 6-8 hours of gaming every single day for 8 years! think about that for a second. if you work 8 hours, and sleep 8 hours, you are literally spending every free second of your life, every day no exceptions, playing a fundamentally meaningless game.

[Energy]

With that same logic, World of Warcraft is as bad, or worse, than porn!

It is.

[Jason00S2000]

playing a fundamentally meaningless game.


If it weren't for the fun idea of what it would be like to make money like a muthafucka, it would be existential crisis time!


Actually, I remember reading some dude's post about his time spread across WoW, Eve, Everquest, and DAOC, and it was something incredible like 2500 days played. Some of that must have been over-lapping, the guy was like 40, so it would have been like 12+ hours a day for 15 years or something insane.

I remember he claimed to enjoy every minute of it though, so... who am I to say it was wrong or bad?

There's that guy in India who held up his arm for like a decade in dedication to Shiva. Google it, it was on Reddit the other day. If holding his arm up all the time for his faith looks dumb to us, but brings him peace, should we be happy for him, or consider it a mental illness?

I bet some people would say 10+ hours a day, every day, in a video game is borderline ill...

[rsx]

If it weren't for the fun idea of what it would be like to make money like a muthafucka, it would be existential crisis time!


Actually, I remember reading some dude's post about his time spread across WoW, Eve, Everquest, and DAOC, and it was something incredible like 2500 days played. Some of that must have been over-lapping, the guy was like 40, so it would have been like 12+ hours a day for 15 years or something insane.

I remember he claimed to enjoy every minute of it though, so... who am I to say it was wrong or bad?

There's that guy in India who held up his arm for like a decade in dedication to Shiva. Google it, it was on Reddit the other day. If holding his arm up all the time for his faith looks dumb to us, but brings him peace, should we be happy for him, or consider it a mental illness?

I bet some people would say 10+ hours a day, every day, in a video game is borderline ill...

Objectively, he's an idiot. I wouldn't say he has a mental illness though. He's just an ignorant guy.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

stand up straight, be a man, do what is morally right, and not contribute to the pussification of society is one way you can contribute.

morals are subjective though. what is moral for you may not be moral for me.

a small example (or big), is eating meat. some people will crucify you for eating meat because it's immoral. i bet you eat fuckin big ass steaks dont you? so... that's just one example.

btw what you just said, sounds hella red neck western.

i don't think you find that kind of attitude many other places in the world.

werd!

i contribute 10 hours a week teaching boys to be not only hockey players, but respectful, hard working little men. that's my skill set and is my responsibility to share that.

glad you posted this because again ulic missed my point completely.
:okay:

i didn't miss your point. you guys are missing my point.

i do not view hard working little men as something i want to be.

i want to be hard working big men. the ones that control the little men. i see higher (therefore aim higher).

just because you cannot see higher, doesn't mean it doesnt exist.

i am sure you know people that see below your scope of vision. they see even less. but you cannot blame them. they CANNOT see higher than themselves.

no human can see beyond themselves. but smart humans realise that, and realise others can see a broader range, and accept that. it's called ego, you have to accept that what you see, is not the complete picture and there are others who can see more. you have your place, and they have theirs.

u answered your own question. without the cogs in the machine, there would be no machine. normal people work to keep
businesses running - businesses that serve other normal people and keep money production running. without the normal people the rich would not have anyone to work in their companies, or serve them while on vacation. without normal people the rich would not be rich. a company can function with an underpaid exec team consisting of normal people. can a company function with no normal people at all? nope
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yes, but they are just cogs in the end. if one dies, 10 will take their place.
they are disposable. there are cogs everywhere.

yes you are right, without the little cogs, the rich people would have nothing.

but you know what, im going to be that rich person. im aiming for that. im not aiming to be a cog.

actually it's not completely true. the business i'm in, requires no cogs. and the sky is the limit for money. the richest people in the world are in this business.

Well said drunkrussian.
And to be completely honest, who offers more to society?

The porn broker who is more likely to offer your daughter/cousin/niece cash to show her titties? Something that has been proven to limit a woman's choices in the future (Teacher who was in porn films must decide whether to appeal firing - Los Angeles Times (http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/19/local/la-me-0120-porn-teacher-20130120))

Or the guy who works in the lab as a radiologist?
Or the lady who spends time finding work for the handicapped?
Or the guy who drives them to work in the bus?

Who is more important to society?
Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian? Or Dr. Jonas Salk who cured Polio?

you are assuming that he will be nothing but a porn broker for the rest of his life.

there are stages to life. if he makes it big doing porn, he will enter another world where he will meet people far more powerful and more rich than he is. and he will see the next step. the porn business will be but a stepping stone.

no rich man becomes rich overnight. there are many ways to get rich.
i don't care how people get there.

after he reaches the next level, how do u know what he's going to do?

with that kind of money... one simple thought or change of lifestyle could completely change the outcome of the story.

the path doesn't matter, only the end result.


dr jonas salk vs paris... you are only looking at one aspect.

one day paris will own hitlon, and she will employ a million cogs. and pay them.

she is doing more work than all of those cogs combined. she controls the chess pieces.

i don't care how slutty or how much drugs or whatever "immortal" things she does or how you view her.

at the end of the day, if she wants to crush your ass and own it, she can. and as a little cog, you should realise that and respect that.


the difference in mentality is, some people aim to be chess pieces. other's aim to be chess players.

the difference is very obvious in this thread.

not to bash all you chess piece types, because yes, we need you, much like you need us.

we are part of a bigger system. some people cannot see the broad scope of things, and that's absolutely fine because they'll make great workers (and they'll be happy doing it).

for people that can see more, they make horrible workers. being a big perspective person and working a small perspective job is worse than torture.

everyone has their place, regardless of morals.


just because someone isn't "hard working", doesn't make them wrong.


the "right" thing differs depending on where you stand on the mountain.

some people stand on the top, and some people stand at the bottom.
people at the top, see the big picture. people at the bottom see the little picture.
there are "right" things to be done at every level.

the thing is, people at the top will have the power to dictate what the people at the bottom have to do.

[kkttsang]

The "bottom" people have the power to say no to whatever the "top" people wants you to do.
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[Ulic Qel-Droma]

plus i think you guys have forgotten your younger days, when jerking off to porn was the best discovery up until you fucked real women.

you forgot to thank all those pornographers that provided an outlet for your horny youthful self.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

The "bottom" people have the power to say no to whatever the "top" people wants you to do.
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no they don't. that's an illusion.

they can say no, then they can just eat dirt and not get paid.

there will be plenty of "bottom" people willing to take your place for some extra cash.



plus bottom people don't "see" the orders come from top. all they see is "hiring" and they work hard and apply for the job.
the people at the top provide those places that are hiring. they are too far away to directly communicate with you.

[kkttsang]

Sounds like slavery you are describing
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[dogeatcookie]

This might be a little off-topic, but I think for what ever you get, you must pay for it one way or another, wealth isn't an exception. My parents do fairly well, but the level of happiness does not equal to the amount of wealth, quite the opposite actually. I know some people whose families own multi-national corporations and accumulated immense wealth (in the billions). They can pretty much be anywhere they want to, or buy what ever they want at any given moment, but they feel empty, they simply aren't happy with their lives.

People usually only show the brightest side of their lives, which is like a few frames in an entire movie. Pain and suffering is still there, you just can't see it. Sometimes money can take the edge off of things, but the effect doesn't last. You can reminisce about joyful memories with friends and family, but nobody reminisces about spending tons of money on meaningless things. Grass is always greener on the other side I guess.

[kunoman1]

no they don't. that's an illusion.

they can say no, then they can just eat dirt and not get paid.

there will be plenty of "bottom" people willing to take your place for some extra cash.



plus bottom people don't "see" the orders come from top. all they see is "hiring" and they work hard and apply for the job.
the people at the top provide those places that are hiring. they are too far away to directly communicate with you.

You talk as if the "bottom people" are like a subcategory of human that's subordinate to the "upper level" people. In terms of say a large multinational corporation, the entry level worker probably has very little impact on both the company as a whole and the executives that run it. But like a democracy, the power is split up among all those that are "lower". A successful business would be unsuccessful without the hard work of their employees, its directly correlated to how your workers work. Without concious recognition of your workers, you are destined to fail simply due to the fact you don't recognize that while a individuals may have little power, many individuals hold it all

[z-33]

Goes both way, you always want what you cant have. Once you obtain it, you don't appreciate/value it as much as you use to. I guess that life! Being wealthy comes with its negative and positives, but it sure as hell beats being broke! I think everyones quality of life is much better not when they have extreme amounts of wealth(having so much money you don't know what to do with it) but when your well off and don't have to worry about money on a daily bases(saving for a house, car, kids). It also depends on how you came across your wealth. Some people get a few lucky breaks in life, opportunities arise and they pull the trigger(business opportunities,stocks, even criminal activity.) Others people are born into wealthy families(I hate people who hate on kids that are born into wealth, they didnt choose their families) and in turn they use their parents money to open up business, and further increase their wealth(you need money to make money!). Than they're people who were born with not a dollar to their name, and they grind their asses off ex. school and get degrees and in turn become lawyers, doctors etc. These people are obviously going to value their wealth more because hey they worked fuckin hard for what they have, and to enjoy the lifestyle they live. So at the end of the day it all depends on how you come across your wealth, and what sacrifices you made to earn it.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

This might be a little off-topic, but I think for what ever you get, you must pay for it one way or another, wealth isn't an exception. My parents do fairly well, but the level of happiness does not equal to the amount of wealth, quite the opposite actually. I know some people whose families own multi-national corporations and accumulated immense wealth (in the billions). They can pretty much be anywhere they want to, or buy what ever they want at any given moment, but they feel empty, they simply aren't happy with their lives.

People usually only show the brightest side of their lives, which is like a few frames in an entire movie. Pain and suffering is still there, you just can't see it. Sometimes money can take the edge off of things, but the effect doesn't last. You can reminisce about joyful memories with friends and family, but nobody reminisces about spending tons of money on meaningless things. Grass is always greener on the other side I guess.

you're not accounting for all the other millionaires and billionaires that are very happy with their lives.

or accounting for all the poor to normal people that are unhappy as shit.

i can name lots of millionaires that are frustrated as fuck with their families and the "problems" created by money.

i can also name a bunch that are totally fucking happy.


it's a misconception that rich people are unhappy.

they're not unhappy cuz they have too much money.

they're unhappy because of the same reasons poor people are unhappy.
they want something that they don't know how to get (whether it be love, or money or whatever). they just don't know how to get it.

it's as simple as that.

You talk as if the "bottom people" are like a subcategory of human that's subordinate to the "upper level" people. In terms of say a large multinational corporation, the entry level worker probably has very little impact on both the company as a whole and the executives that run it. But like a democracy, the power is split up among all those that are "lower". A successful business would be unsuccessful without the hard work of their employees, its directly correlated to how your workers work. Without concious recognition of your workers, you are destined to fail simply due to the fact you don't recognize that while a individuals may have little power, many individuals hold it all

ok all humans are equal and all that bs. but if you look at it objectively... they ARE subordinates.

if your boss tells you to file a report, and you don't do it... guess what you're fired. are you not his subordinate?
that is the literal definition of subordinate.

what's your definition?

yeah, of course you recognize that combined, they have more power than you... no shit.
but when it comes to getting shit done, the order comes down, and people do it. or they don't.

if they don't, you can give them incentives... like treat them better, or give them more money (this one works very well, some jackass is going to take the money over how everyone else feels). and that's just the truth of it.

plus all of you arguing back are still looking at the small picture. the highest positions you guys keep mentioning is a ceo of some corporation.

it goes beyond that.

say you work at a coffee shop as a clerk or whatever... so the store manager is your boss... you go.. damn.. i wanna be the store manager one day.
so one day you are.

and then you realise the regional manager is your boss. ok and you keep working hard and eventually you become CEO. that's the end?

fuck no. what about the people supplying you your coffee beans?

what about the giant institutions that can move the price of coffee beans by buying or selling coffee futures?

what about the regulators that dictate whether coffee is even allowed in the country or not?

you follow the chain and there's someone higher. someone that controls it.


my perspective is to climb as high as possible in that chain of influence.
not just in your own business, but in the perspective of the whole WORLD.

i don't care if you become CEO of abc corp. when XYZ corp dictates whether you stay in business or not. you are their subordinate now. and all your subordinates are their subordinates.

yeah... big corporations do have conscious recognition of their workers...
they keep a fine balance between slavery and work. they keep them just happy enough so they accept what they do, and do their jobs.

oh wait... not only do corporations do that... but governments do that too.
tax people too high, take away too many rights, and people revolt.

the trick to managing people is keeping that fine line where they submit to your orders, vs revolting.

hence thats why i said it's an illusion that you have power.

at any time you want to revolt, they'll just give you a little treat... and you'll go back to working. if you don't accept, well they'll give you a bigger treat.

there's also a fine line when workers demand too much and the top people just decide to cut them all and hire a bunch of new workers.

but the opposite can never happen.

the bottom can "vote out" or kill off a leader and elect someone else.
but then you go back to square 1.
the leader's job is to squeeze out as much as you can from as little as possible. that is the NATURE of the leader.

eventually it will just go back to the same point.

someone from the bottom is gonna climb to the top.

i don't know how else i can explain this to you guys.


you think i look down on these "bottom" people, when in reality, i only look down on the ones that choose to ignore everything above them.

the most valuable people are the ones at the bottom, who can one day climb to the top or as high as they possibly can.

the ones that just flatline and stay at one level for the rest of their lives... well... they live in a different world than i do.

not only do they not see the structure of power.
they don't care... which is all cool cuz then there's less competition in my world i have to deal with.

but to lecture others on what is "right" and how things should be run... when in fact they don't run anything outside their own families (which is dictated by their jobs, which is dictated by their boss and their bosses boss etc)... is just retarded.

the only thing they are experts at, is being a good worker.


but this thread isnt about being a good worker. it's about Gettin' money like a muthaf

[Jason00S2000]

but this thread isnt about being a good worker. it's about Gettin' money like a muthaf

20 days until my book release!
A little nervous as it is my first novel. In fact, here's a fun fact:

I'm actually more apprehensive that my book will be a success rather than a failure.

Why? If my book releases and I make 10 sales a day, worldwide, that's approximately an extra 1.5-2k per month in income. My life won't change much and I'll stick to writing, working, and promoting. I will eat humble pie and shine Hypa's boot with my tongue.

If my book releases and I somehow sell 50 books per day on average, that would be an extra 9k per month, which would drastically alter my path in life. I could afford to hire a film crew and make my choose-your-own-adventure style erotic game I call "simrotica" based on the characters in the City of Singles universe. It's like a soap opera with sex tapes based on characters you interact with. The game would be free to play, $1 micro-payment if you want to watch the sex scenes.(filmed by anonymous body-double actors who never show their faces) Using body-doubles for the sex scenes means you could actually hire people who can act and want to act for the roles of the characters, while you could hire people who are in shape and who can fuck well on camera for the sex scenes! Win-win!

***
Also, if I was in a position to revenue-share with the couples who perform sexually, perhaps they could get royalties for years from making the tapes. Totally anonymous as well, to protect their privacy. Think of how many people out there who would love to get paid to make a sex tape with their girlfriend if they knew nobody would find out, and they'd get paid for it.(Faces not shown, tattoos covered, fake birthmarks/tattoos possibly added)
***

If, by some incredible stroke of luck and timing, my novel actually becomes popular and I sold 100 books per day on average world-wide, that would be 18k per month.

FYI:

So how many books do you actually need to sell to make it onto, say, the Times list? There is no defined threshold, but according to the Stanford study, one book made the hardcover fiction list selling only 2,108 copies a week; more typically, the median weekly sales figure in the study was 18,717. And most books can't keep even these modest sale rates up for long: Sales generally peak during a book's second week on the list and then steadily decline. Over a period of six months, the median best seller in the Stanford study averaged weekly sales of just over 3,600 copies.

Wish me luck, I don't want to be licking Hypa's dirty boot

[El Bastardo]

but this thread isnt about being a good worker. it's about Gettin' money like a muthaf


Well, its more about Jason0S2000's vanity than anything else.

[kkttsang]

You keep saying you look at the big picture but you are only looking at the big picture of the corporate food chain. You are ranking people in terms of their status. But what about other things in life. Also just because someone works at a bottom level in a corporation, that same person may have their own business on the side where he is the top boss. Therefore that one person is both at the top and bottom.
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[Jason00S2000]

Well, its more about Jason0S2000's vanity than anything else.


Said on a website dedicated to flashy cars. :suspicious:

[GLOW]

Said on a website dedicated to flashy cars. :suspicious:

wait this website is dedicated to flashy cars? :suspicious:

in order for me to get said flashy car, i suppose i would need to get money like a mutha fucka :okay:

[originalhypa]

I will eat humble pie and shine Hypa's boot with my tongue.

:lol

Honestly man, I've argued, and fought, and tried to promote a different idea of how to live. But in the end, I'm cheering for you to go somewhere with this. I'd rather see you make it, in order to prove to myself that maybe my way isn't the only way. I've become a bit jaded seeing a lot of my friends either fail or accept their fate. You're one of the few individuals who I've seen rise from humble beginnings and really achieve some success in your field. Along with having a hell of a lot of cool experiences along the way.

Who knows.
If you make it, that might be the inspiration I need to leave my job and get that law degree I've always wanted.

:badpokerface:

[JD¹³]

dribble dribble ramble ramble
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I don't know how you expect anyone to read your posts when you can't even form complete sentences or anything resembling a paragraph. Seriously please learn to type properly you've been using a computer long enough.

[Jegz]

I read all of it :okay:

[Manic!]

Sell 5000 copies total and get on the Canadian best sellers list.

What does it take to be a bestseller? (http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/story.html?id=24814403-0968-4dc5-9613-2f0fd00d7dac&k=19393)

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii482/miscgifz/store-didnt-read-lol.gif

I don't know how you expect anyone to read your posts when you can't even form complete sentences or anything resembling a paragraph. Seriously please learn to type properly you've been using a computer long enough.

my posts are designed for the adhd nature of most people now. they are paragraphs.

they are very very short ones. like this.

so that people with short attention spans will keep reading.

each space is a pause in which you should return back into your head, and do some deeper thinking and review on if what i have said actually clicks in your head before moving onto the next point.

get it?

good.

plus i tend to think of my posts as speeches, not academic papers. i speak the the broad audience, not just to people who think they're intelligent.

[Hehe]

Why do people want to get money like muthaf?!?

I'd actually be curious to know. What are you planning to do if you make a killing with your book Jason?

I am nowhere near that category. I have a decent job and some decent investments that provide me enough for toys I want, support my own family and still have something left knowing that I don't live paycheck to paycheck. I'm perfectly happy with that and nothing else really attracts me much.

My parents are 7-figures earners, but their life isn't much different than mine. We check prices for everything we buy in our life, we travel twice a year (granted they do much longer travels as they are retired) and we eat mostly at home cooked by ourselves.

Money doesn't bring happiness. In fact, my parents are always worrying how to invest their money so the money doesn't sit in banks losing value. Money just allows more possibilities in life.

Don't wish to get money like muthaf... rather, get enough. And be happy.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

yeah well, some people are satisfied at 50k a year. some people are satsified at 500k. some at 7 figures. some at 8. some at 9 figures.

you travel twice a year you say? what if some people like to travel 8 months out of the year?

or they like to build empires to spread their influence. it is their hobby and passion. and it just happens to be their job too.

it's subjective... like we discussed in the earlier pages.

every echelon of income you reach, you will most likely encounter people that live in that level/bubble. you'll most likely stop when you reach a level where you're comfortable with everyone else in that group and also the style of spending. some people want to be at the top, for the sake of being at the top. if they're happy there.. well then, let them climb.

i have a lot of friends that have "more money than they know what to do with"... they make about 80-130k+. they're about 29-31, some married, some not. they're happy. good for them. i'm not gonna tell them how to spend their money if they're already happy. but if they're ever unhappy, i'm sure they'll be all ears.

on the other hand, i have friends that are millionaires, and they seem like they're just getting started in life. like they just discovered some new world... like their entire lives have been just training to reach that moment, so that their real lives can begin.

[.Renn.Sport]

Why do people want to get money like muthaf?!?

I'd actually be curious to know. What are you planning to do if you make a killing with your book Jason?

I am nowhere near that category. I have a decent job and some decent investments that provide me enough for toys I want, support my own family and still have something left knowing that I don't live paycheck to paycheck. I'm perfectly happy with that and nothing else really attracts me much.

My parents are 7-figures earners, but their life isn't much different than mine. We check prices for everything we buy in our life, we travel twice a year (granted they do much longer travels as they are retired) and we eat mostly at home cooked by ourselves.

Money doesn't bring happiness. In fact, my parents are always worrying how to invest their money so the money doesn't sit in banks losing value. Money just allows more possibilities in life.

Don't wish to get money like muthaf... rather, get enough. And be happy.

When you are still worrying about money, you simply aren't making enough.
I also see that you are just living a fixed life on a fixed schedule. I just don't see any freedom in that. You are just saying you are happy with what you have left over and compare to a lot of ppl, you really don't have financial burden as long as you have a job. Can you quit your job and just do whatever you want? Even your parents are retired and got a good chunk of money left, they still don't have the freedom to do whatever they want any time they want.

The biggest difference is you have a job, I own a business. I could wake up 3 in the afternoon and still be making money. Can you say I feel like going to places in shanghai tonight, and just fly there? I have the freedom to do so, and to able to do so, you really need to make money like a muthaf before you can even get close to experiencing life thats not set in a box.

On another hand, the more money I make, the less I need to spend on necessity stuff like on food or travelling.

[Jason00S2000]

What are you planning to do if you make a killing with your book Jason?


Make art, innovate as much as possible. I have an endless supply of cool ideas of things I would design and fund, and a shortlist of local artists that I would support with grants. Ken Foster being one of them.

If you gave me 10 million, I would put aside only a tiny fraction for myself and blow the rest on unique projects. I have a ton of ideas!!!

[The7even]

Guys...


Guys...




The book could also be...

a hat.

[parm104]

I have a ton of ideas!!!

Like the time you and your brother turned your beds into bunk beds so you could do more activities!?

[diesel_test]

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In fact, my parents are always worrying how to invest their money so the money doesn't sit in banks losing value. Money just allows more possibilities in life.[/quote]

they have to know how to borrow money faster so they can retire in DEBT :D

do they make 1 million/yr before or after taxes?

[Gumby]

Hyde and diesel_test have participated in this thread.

If Marco_911 joins in, then my life will be complete! :ahwow:

[drunkrussian]

my posts are designed for the adhd nature of most people now. they are paragraphs.

they are very very short ones. like this.

so that people with short attention spans will keep reading.

each space is a pause in which you should return back into your head, and do some deeper thinking and review on if what i have said actually clicks in your head before moving onto the next point.

get it?

good.

plus i tend to think of my posts as speeches, not academic papers. i speak the the broad audience, not just to people who think they're intelligent.

when i read your posts i picture mr. t saying them in Rocky when he's talking shit about the fight

[Hondaracer]

It's kind of funny how some ppl in this thread talk about the "upper echelon" of society and them being so wealthy they can take limitless time off , do what they want with their day etc

Through my job I've had the opportunities to work with businessmen in the lower mainland making 8 figure salaries, have buildings around Vancouver with their names on them and have virtually limitless wealth

With that said, these people NEVER take a day off, whether it be their corporations, philanthropy, hosting events, etc they are ALWAYS "working" and in essence building their legacy as Hypa mentioned earlier in this thread the fact they are worth so much just means that are working that much harder on a daily basis than you or I, and of these people I worked along side not a single one ever gave their children a limitless visa, bought anything they wanted, etc outside of their living means you wouldn't tell them apart from the typical clown driving a 70k vehicle making $30 an hour
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[Hehe]

Can you quit your job and just do whatever you want? Even your parents are retired and got a good chunk of money left, they still don't have the freedom to do whatever they want any time they want.

The biggest difference is you have a job, I own a business. I could wake up 3 in the afternoon and still be making money. Can you say I feel like going to places in shanghai tonight, and just fly there? I have the freedom to do so, and to able to do so, you really need to make money like a muthaf before you can even get close to experiencing life thats not set in a box.

On another hand, the more money I make, the less I need to spend on necessity stuff like on food or travelling.

I can quit my job and still be perfectly happy. My job is my way of staying in-touch with the current of what I do best. But it's by no mean a necessity.

Furthermore, I don't see what's the bragging about doing what you want, when you want. It's all about being spontaneous. When I was younger, I have done many trips to multiple destinations around the world just because I felt like it. But that didn't make my life any better than now. In fact, that just meant I was a unorganized person who was stupid enough to do that.

Maybe you are not old enough to understand it yet. But there would come one day, where you appreciate stability. And you'd actually spend big bucks to get that rather than being spontaneous. I.E: I want the exact bottle of cognac year after year. All those flashy new bottles don't interest me. I just want the exactly the same. So, I load up boxes of the cognac I like rather than always buying the newest stuff.

they have to know how to borrow money faster so they can retire in DEBT :D

do they make 1 million/yr before or after taxes?

Debt? They have been debt-free for the last 20 years. What's the point of owning 100m worth of stuff and have 80m in debt?

As for their income... let's just say they are 7-figures earner no matter how you tax it.

yeah well, some people are satisfied at 50k a year. some people are satsified at 500k. some at 7 figures. some at 8. some at 9 figures.

you travel twice a year you say? what if some people like to travel 8 months out of the year?

or they like to build empires to spread their influence. it is their hobby and passion. and it just happens to be their job too.

it's subjective... like we discussed in the earlier pages.

every echelon of income you reach, you will most likely encounter people that live in that level/bubble. you'll most likely stop when you reach a level where you're comfortable with everyone else in that group and also the style of spending. some people want to be at the top, for the sake of being at the top. if they're happy there.. well then, let them climb.

i have a lot of friends that have "more money than they know what to do with"... they make about 80-130k+. they're about 29-31, some married, some not. they're happy. good for them. i'm not gonna tell them how to spend their money if they're already happy. but if they're ever unhappy, i'm sure they'll be all ears.

on the other hand, i have friends that are millionaires, and they seem like they're just getting started in life. like they just discovered some new world... like their entire lives have been just training to reach that moment, so that their real lives can begin.

Exactly. That's why I said, get ENOUGH. If one still has the desire to do some other stuff to be happy, try to earn enough to do that and be happier. But if getting more money doesn't bring any additional satisfaction, why bother?

It's like my parents. They earn a number far beyond their lifestyle. And you know what? That number is still increasing. Thus, the money doesn't bring them happiness. They are expecting to break 8-figures within this decade, but their lifestyle would still be EXACTLY like today.

IMHO, people who don't make enough to cover everything in their life would discuss about the possibilities that extra money bring them. But why not figure out what would truly make you happy and then work toward the financial status required to do so; rather than blindly seek for money.

[nabs]

right now im comfortable with what im making, but if I made double... i would be gettin money like a muthaf...

[Gumby]

IMHO, people who don't make enough to cover everything in their life would discuss about the possibilities that extra money bring them. But why not figure out what would truly make you happy and then work toward the financial status required to do so; rather than blindly seek for money.
Wow, quoted for truth!

[diesel_test]

Debt? They have been debt-free for the last 20 years. What's the point of owning 100m worth of stuff and have 80m in debt?

As for their income... let's just say they are 7-figures earner no matter how you tax it.

well, if you're 100M in debt for your house/cars/jewelry then that isn't good. you know these things don't make you more money it loses value every year

but if you're in debt for something like your business and rental properties and it makes you money, it gives you a pretty good passive income when you retire and they're taxed less than RRSP's

[.Renn.Sport]

It's kind of funny how some ppl in this thread talk about the "upper echelon" of society and them being so wealthy they can take limitless time off , do what they want with their day etc

Through my job I've had the opportunities to work with businessmen in the lower mainland making 8 figure salaries, have buildings around Vancouver with their names on them and have virtually limitless wealth

With that said, these people NEVER take a day off, whether it be their corporations, philanthropy, hosting events, etc they are ALWAYS "working" and in essence building their legacy as Hypa mentioned earlier in this thread the fact they are worth so much just means that are working that much harder on a daily basis than you or I, and of these people I worked along side not a single one ever gave their children a limitless visa, bought anything they wanted, etc outside of their living means you wouldn't tell them apart from the typical clown driving a 70k vehicle making $30 an hour
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You are right, every second of what I do involves my business. But at the same time, my business/job involves getting paid to do things that even Jason could never even dream of doing.

When you are at that level of wealth. You won't be seeking for money anymore. You would be seeking on how to change people's life with what they do and with the amount of wealth they have to accomplish it.

For me, I think time is much more valuable than money now.

[drunkrussian]

It's kind of funny how some ppl in this thread talk about the "upper echelon" of society and them being so wealthy they can take limitless time off , do what they want with their day etc

Through my job I've had the opportunities to work with businessmen in the lower mainland making 8 figure salaries, have buildings around Vancouver with their names on them and have virtually limitless wealth

With that said, these people NEVER take a day off, whether it be their corporations, philanthropy, hosting events, etc they are ALWAYS "working" and in essence building their legacy as Hypa mentioned earlier in this thread the fact they are worth so much just means that are working that much harder on a daily basis than you or I, and of these people I worked along side not a single one ever gave their children a limitless visa, bought anything they wanted, etc outside of their living means you wouldn't tell them apart from the typical clown driving a 70k vehicle making $30 an hour
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couldn agree more. granted my industry is a bit more laud back and less conservative than say financial services or lawyers

but every ceo, cfo, coo and balling enterpreneur that ive come across (at least in vancouver) not only enjoya working crazy hours but is humble and would rather have some normal food than a baller dinner. and rather drive the family around in a minivan than own a ferrari. different strokes for different folks, but even the people who i know of that do enjoy luxurious items - they spend their time with other rich people talking about work and building a brand and differentiating the company and driving up stock. not about "the finer things". work work work!
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[Hehe]

It's kind of funny how some ppl in this thread talk about the "upper echelon" of society and them being so wealthy they can take limitless time off , do what they want with their day etc

Through my job I've had the opportunities to work with businessmen in the lower mainland making 8 figure salaries, have buildings around Vancouver with their names on them and have virtually limitless wealth

With that said, these people NEVER take a day off, whether it be their corporations, philanthropy, hosting events, etc they are ALWAYS "working" and in essence building their legacy as Hypa mentioned earlier in this thread the fact they are worth so much just means that are working that much harder on a daily basis than you or I, and of these people I worked along side not a single one ever gave their children a limitless visa, bought anything they wanted, etc outside of their living means you wouldn't tell them apart from the typical clown driving a 70k vehicle making $30 an hour
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But that doesn't mean all rich people are like that. And I doubt many true super riches (I consider to be anyone with 100m+ NET worth) actually work at all.

Sure there are many rich people who work their ass off to get what they have, but that to me has more to do with the western propaganda of "if you work hard, you can make it" philosophy. And people enjoy those kind of stories.

Nevertheless, most of the true super riches that I have come across in my life don't spend more than 10% of their waking minutes on their business.

The true riches have army of smartasses taking care of everything for them. They only need to do stuff that absolutely require their presence: signing documents, meetings, events... etc.

It's rather cruel to know the amount of money they make for doing almost nothing... but that's the sad reality and many popular propaganda are simply tools to make average joes like us to feel better. :badpokerface:

[Jason00S2000]

They are expecting to break 8-figures within this decade, but their lifestyle would still be EXACTLY like today.


People like this, whether they make 4 figures yearly or 8, are drones. They will never change or influence society. There are some people who have every resource imaginable, but they have no ability to do anything with it other than live the life that other people think they should live.


Names like,

Hemingway
Wilde
Bukowski
Warhol
Jackson
Presley
Cobain
Joplin
Tillman
Armstrong

These are the people who leave a timeless legacy. Yes, many of them had drug problems and died early, but being a unique snowflake is not easy.

For each of these multi-millionaire business developers with oodles of money and names on buildings, they will be quickly forgotten. How do these people shape our art or culture?

They did nothing different than what was expected of them.

[Gridlock]

Names like,

Hemingway-self-inflicted
Wilde-interesting: imprisonment, then depression then death
Bukowski-notorious alcoholic
Warhol
Jackson
Presley-overdose
Cobain-self-inflicted.
Joplin-overdose
Tillman
Armstrong



Off the top of my head, I can't remember the circumstances of Andy Warhol's death, or the others left blank.

These people led conflicted lives. Yes, they were successful for their art, which will live on past their time-but it had a cost.

You are really romanticizing a sect of society, but I edit to add, I do appreciate that you are "doing" rather than...sorry, I was going to say "talking" but that's a lie. You are kind of doing AND talking.

[Hehe]

People like this, whether they make 4 figures yearly or 8, are drones. They will never change or influence society. There are some people who have every resource imaginable, but they have no ability to do anything with it other than live the life that other people think they should live.


Names like,

Hemingway
Wilde
Bukowski
Warhol
Jackson
Presley
Cobain
Joplin
Tillman
Armstrong

These are the people who leave a timeless legacy. Yes, many of them had drug problems and died early, but being a unique snowflake is not easy.

For each of these multi-millionaire business developers with oodles of money and names on buildings, they will be quickly forgotten. How do these people shape our art or culture?

They did nothing different than what was expected of them.

I beg to differ. The "legacy" you mentioned for these people was nothing more than the financial success that their work/job brought to them.

Hemingway could have written better than Shakespeare and still go unnoticed. They are nothing more than the by-product of those multi-millionaires. It's all part of the game. A game that millionaires play to maintain/achieve their millionaire status.

Art, in any perceivable form, is purely subjective and easily manipulated

Legacies (to the humanity as a whole) are for those who truly made a difference. Lincoln, Washington, Sun Yat-Sen, and Einstein (to name a few) are those who had a legacy... not those you mentioned.

[Jason00S2000]

Legacies (to the humanity as a whole) are for those who truly made a difference. Lincoln, Washington, Sun Yat-Sen, and Einstein (to name a few) are those who had a legacy... not those you mentioned.

Why do I get the feeling that this type of argument ends up mirroring the same divide found between Ford and Chevy guys.

[Jason00S2000]

Legacies (to the humanity as a whole) are for those who truly made a difference. Lincoln, Washington, Sun Yat-Sen, and Einstein (to name a few) are those who had a legacy... not those you mentioned.

It is not a coincidence that you chose 3 politicians/military leaders and one scientist. You could say they had massive external influence on their people, through real on-the-ground changes in society. None of the people you list were alive to see The Internet.

I think now, especially due to the ubiquity of internet connections and the lifestyles associated with that, artists have even more power to shape humanity internally. Our great struggle has gone from surviving beyond 40, to being happy and remaining entertained enough that the lifestyles of our neighbors do not offend each other. Some people say Vancouver is cold, I call it extremely tolerant, the perceived coldness is a part of that tolerance.

However, this thread isn't about freeing slaves, or crossing the Delaware, this is about getting money like a muthafucka.

http://def.sescoops.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/Wayne29.jpg

[Hehe]

It is not a coincidence that you chose 3 politicians/military leaders and one scientist. You could say they had massive external influence on their people, through real on-the-ground changes in society. None of the people you list were alive to see The Internet.

I think now, especially due to the ubiquity of internet connections and the lifestyles associated with that, artists have even more power to shape humanity internally. Our great struggle has gone from surviving beyond 40, to being happy and remaining entertained enough that the lifestyles of our neighbors do not offend each other. Some people say Vancouver is cold, I call it extremely tolerant, the perceived coldness is a part of that tolerance.

However, this thread isn't about freeing slaves, or crossing the Delaware, this is about getting money like a muthafucka.


Exactly. It's all about getting like a muthaf. But don't romanticize and justify this nasty and cruel act.

Art or not... it's all about making a buck. Would anyone care for Warhol if his work doesn't sell?

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

It's kind of funny how some ppl in this thread talk about the "upper echelon" of society and them being so wealthy they can take limitless time off , do what they want with their day etc

Through my job I've had the opportunities to work with businessmen in the lower mainland making 8 figure salaries, have buildings around Vancouver with their names on them and have virtually limitless wealth

With that said, these people NEVER take a day off, whether it be their corporations, philanthropy, hosting events, etc they are ALWAYS "working" and in essence building their legacy as Hypa mentioned earlier in this thread the fact they are worth so much just means that are working that much harder on a daily basis than you or I, and of these people I worked along side not a single one ever gave their children a limitless visa, bought anything they wanted, etc outside of their living means you wouldn't tell them apart from the typical clown driving a 70k vehicle making $30 an hour
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that's just vancouver... you're still limited by what you have seen. what about the hundreds of thousands of other millionaires out there?

yeah i know millionaire and billionaires that work alllll fuckin day. alll night. they are serious business people. business is their life.

and i know others that don't do jack shit. wake up when they want, do what they want, when they want. they have little squires that call them if anything important needs to be brought to their attention.

what you see, is just a fraction of the truth. the world is big. there are more millionaires out there than you can believe.


IMHO, people who don't make enough to cover everything in their life would discuss about the possibilities that extra money bring them. But why not figure out what would truly make you happy and then work toward the financial status required to do so; rather than blindly seek for money.

I think about this everyday. I know what will make my life happy. It involves a lot of freedom. and not having any financial burdens OR any schedule I have to follow (dictated by others).

that alone requires money.

and that's just the beginning of what I want. I don't really care about ferrari's and big houses and and blowing money on stupid shit. I grew up surrounded by that.

But like jason... i have lots of ideas. i have lots of passions and hobbies i'd like to just get up and go do. and not think of the time or money it would cost. i would just do it. and if i felt like dropping it, i'd just drop it. and pick something else up.

everything I think of... can be solved with money (certain amount).

of course I don't need 100million dollars to do that. but i KNOW if i reach that amount, it will enable me to do things I have never thought possible before.

for me it's not just about myself. if someone else close to me wants something badly. I want to be able to throw down the money for them.

you see, once you start considering not just yourself. but your close friends and family... things start getting costly.

if your dream costs millions to achieve... what about their dreams.. after you achieved yours? you'll need plenty of millions to help achieve theirs as well.


But that doesn't mean all rich people are like that. And I doubt many true super riches (I consider to be anyone with 100m+ NET worth) actually work at all.

Sure there are many rich people who work their ass off to get what they have, but that to me has more to do with the western propaganda of "if you work hard, you can make it" philosophy. And people enjoy those kind of stories.

Nevertheless, most of the true super riches that I have come across in my life don't spend more than 10% of their waking minutes on their business.

The true riches have army of smartasses taking care of everything for them. They only need to do stuff that absolutely require their presence: signing documents, meetings, events... etc.

It's rather cruel to know the amount of money they make for doing almost nothing... but that's the sad reality and many popular propaganda are simply tools to make average joes like us to feel better. :badpokerface:

This i can agree on.

for every hard working million/billionaire ive met, i've met a handful more that don't work at all.


you see... when you're in the working class, you're only going to meet other working class. your view of the world is small.

the people in the "other world"/echelon... don't hang out with you. they have no need to. they aren't your friend. they didn't grow up with you. they don't live near you. they don't work. you have very small probability to meet them. unless you're an acquaintance or you have something they need.

yeah they do whatever they want all day all night. but you guys have no right to look down on them just because they're not "hard working".

all i see in this thread, is like hehe says... western brainwashing. "work hard, be a good person, your life will be great".

it's a lie.

the proper phrase should be "do what you want, your life will be great"

and if what you want, you don't know how to get... start following and hanging out with people that have what you want.

[diesel_test]

Art or not... it's all about making a buck. Would anyone care for Warhol if his work doesn't sell?

using debt for investments the interest is tax-deductable:D

Making $1 and saving $1 doesn't work anymore. Owing $1 and making $2 off of it is the way to RICH

[Hehe]

using debt for investments the interest is tax-deductable:D

Making $1 and saving $1 doesn't work anymore. Owing $1 and making $2 off of it is the way to RICH


Yes... but taking debt is NOT the best way for tax efficiency. If taking on debt is so efficient, companies like Google or Apple wouldn't want to sit on hundred of billions in CASH!. Also, debt makes one to make irrational decisions.

As for my parents, they don't borrow to grow their fortune. Because they invest very cautiously. And opportunity that they consider worthwhile doesn't come often. Should any opportunity be beyond their budget, they would simply partner with others to pay it in cash.

And cash has this magical power... my parents have bargained the **** out of many deals simply because they didn't need to add the "pending on financing" clause.

[Hehe]

I think about this everyday. I know what will make my life happy. It involves a lot of freedom. and not having any financial burdens OR any schedule I have to follow (dictated by others).

that alone requires money.

and that's just the beginning of what I want. I don't really care about ferrari's and big houses and and blowing money on stupid shit. I grew up surrounded by that.

But like jason... i have lots of ideas. i have lots of passions and hobbies i'd like to just get up and go do. and not think of the time or money it would cost. i would just do it. and if i felt like dropping it, i'd just drop it. and pick something else up.

everything I think of... can be solved with money (certain amount).

of course I don't need 100million dollars to do that. but i KNOW if i reach that amount, it will enable me to do things I have never thought possible before.

for me it's not just about myself. if someone else close to me wants something badly. I want to be able to throw down the money for them.

you see, once you start considering not just yourself. but your close friends and family... things start getting costly.

if your dream costs millions to achieve... what about their dreams.. after you achieved yours? you'll need plenty of millions to help achieve theirs as well..

If helping F&F to achieve their dream is your ultimate dream (the single act that satisfy you the most), all I can say is... Do you need a friend? :badpokerface:

In the long run, you'd realize that it all comes back to yourself... and nothing else. That day would come... one day...

[payrent]

Theres really only two ways to get rich which is being an employer or an employee with significant stock options (which in essence makes you an employer).

How you become one takes many sacrifices and risk which is the hard part. Many people would rather work their 8 hour days and weekends off for job/relationship security instead. I've seen too many give up their ambitions because their gf/wife was not supportive of their long hours and never got back up due to being sunk by a mortgage and 2 kids.

"smart is when you hire people more intelligent than you to work for you"

[Hehe]

^

There is another way... be a lucky sperm. :troll:

[Jason00S2000]

^

There is another way... be a lucky sperm. :troll:


I have yet to meet someone born rich that has done anything really impressive with the resources available to them. Usually it's poor people who get rich who do cool shit!

[payrent]

I have yet to meet someone born rich that has done anything really impressive with the resources available to them. Usually it's poor people who get rich who do cool shit!

I know someone who's born rich, his dads worth 100m+. Sure he has nice stuff and don't need to work but he and his wife are at the mercy of his dad. Can't buy a car/vacation without permission. They're just waiting for him to die which is sad....

[The7even]

It is not a coincidence that you chose 3 politicians/military leaders and one scientist. You could say they had massive external influence on their people, through real on-the-ground changes in society. None of the people you list were alive to see The Internet.

I think now, especially due to the ubiquity of internet connections and the lifestyles associated with that, artists have even more power to shape humanity internally. Our great struggle has gone from surviving beyond 40, to being happy and remaining entertained enough that the lifestyles of our neighbors do not offend each other. Some people say Vancouver is cold, I call it extremely tolerant, the perceived coldness is a part of that tolerance.

However, this thread isn't about freeing slaves, or crossing the Delaware, this is about getting money like a muthafucka.

http://def.sescoops.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/Wayne29.jpg


For the love of God, if you're going to fucking post a picture of someone getting mad money like a muthafucka, put up Bill Gates or Oprah or someone that contributed something to humanity. Instead, you chose a piece of shit fucking retard whose biggest audiance are illeterate monkey-esque "people" that frown upon learning or any kind of intellectual progress.
He's a sell out to even the fake idiotic lifestyle and image he promotes in his... music.. is it?

"I'm original"
"I'm so not stereotypical"
"I don't set out to be different , I set out to be me, and that's what makes me different"
"I do me"
"SO GET A MOUNTAIN DEW"

hurr so unique..

[diesel_test]

I have yet to meet someone born rich that has done anything really impressive with the resources available to them. Usually it's poor people who get rich who do cool shit!

what motivates people to work hard at their jobs? poor people are trying to work hard for what? you think a lotto winner would keep working after they win?

the people born rich, why would they wanna try anymore if they already have what the poor people are striving for? that might be the answer


so here's a piece of shit for you :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3pVzO_MQcg

[Jason00S2000]

or someone that contributed something to humanity.


So easy to trash Lil Wayne, but do you really know how many lives he's touched?

[GLOW]

So easy to trash Lil Wayne, but do you really know how many lives he's touched?

i'm sure he's touched a lot women :ifyouknow:
:troll:

[StaxBundlez]

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