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TOS'd
04-18-2020, 09:09 AM
Happyslip disappears and CivicBlues returns? :troll:

Last Activity: 04-16-2020 01:54 PM

He hasn't logged onto RS since his post (https://www.revscene.net/forums/716747-coronavirus-discussion-166.html#post8983437) trying to justify he was allowed to go outside.

Ch28
04-18-2020, 09:42 AM
Urban Fare by Fairmont Pac Rim has Fleishmann’s quick rise yeast.

113g for $5.99

There’s 8 containers left

underscore
04-18-2020, 12:36 PM
As opposed to literally anything else someone wants to buy online to keep themselves sane?

My point being people shouldn't be buying *any* useless shit they don't actually need online to reduce the risk to postal workers and reduce the load on the postal system so that things that actually matter like PPE and medications can get through the mail more quickly. Most people have more than one hobby, so if you run out of supplies for one just focus on another a little bit more for a while.

Ch28
04-18-2020, 02:11 PM
My point being people shouldn't be buying *any* useless shit they don't actually need online to reduce the risk to postal workers and reduce the load on the postal system so that things that actually matter like PPE and medications can get through the mail more quickly. Most people have more than one hobby, so if you run out of supplies for one just focus on another a little bit more for a while.

The government is already telling people to stay self-isolated at home. Now you want people to stop ordering what they feel they need to stay sane? That's a surefire way of having people break isolation protocol.

SkinnyPupp
04-18-2020, 02:35 PM
My point being people shouldn't be buying *any* useless shit they don't actually need online to reduce the risk to postal workers and reduce the load on the postal system so that things that actually matter like PPE and medications can get through the mail more quickly. Most people have more than one hobby, so if you run out of supplies for one just focus on another a little bit more for a while.
Hard disagree on that, sorry. Not much more to say other than I think you're wrong. CH28 made a good point too

underscore
04-18-2020, 02:52 PM
So giving a fuck about postal workers is wrong but you can't figure out how?

The government is already telling people to stay self-isolated at home. Now you want people to stop ordering what they feel they need to stay sane? That's a surefire way of having people break isolation protocol.

What I'd like is for people to try and be considerate of everyone involved, think about whether you actually need something or just want it because you're bored, and remember that things ordered from the internet don't just magically appear. People who are dealing with the same stuff as everyone else have to get it to you at a time when things are already overloaded.

If you need to get yeast shipped halfway around the world your sanity was never going to make it anyways.

TOS'd
04-18-2020, 03:22 PM
What is everyone's thoughts on people meeting in parking lots and chatting/eating/celebrating birthdays while maintaining social distances? Note that none of these examples are essential reasons to travel. It's not something I partake in personally, but I see a lot of it on social media.

Hondaracer
04-18-2020, 03:55 PM
What is everyone's thoughts on people meeting in parking lots and chatting/eating/celebrating birthdays while maintaining social distances? Note that none of these examples are essential reasons to travel. It's not something I partake in personally, but I see a lot of it on social media.

It’s probably better to do it behind closed doors/backyards etc. Imo

Went over to a friends house had a couple beers today in his back yard zero contact with anything respected social distancing, can’t see from the street etc.

I’d say out in public like that ain’t a great example to others

AzNightmare
04-18-2020, 04:24 PM
I wonder if people have slowly got tired of self isolation.
I've been noticing more cars on the street in my work commute as of last week.
Yesterday, it almost felt like it was back to pre-covid19 days.

I was never able to work from home, but did offices suddenly open again for others?

hud 91gt
04-18-2020, 06:13 PM
I’ve personally seen a friend a couple times. But only 1, and he has done the same. Basically an extension to our “household.” In fact I told him to move in for a while as he’s bored as Hell and I have more projects at my place. Lol.

Akinari
04-18-2020, 06:40 PM
I wonder if people have slowly got tired of self isolation.
I've been noticing more cars on the street in my work commute as of last week.
Yesterday, it almost felt like it was back to pre-covid19 days.

Did an s2s cruise today, on the way back, decided to turn right from W Georgia onto Denman. The amount of people walking around on the streets, and the amount of cars on the road, were so extreme that there was actually bumper to bumper traffic. It was insane.

SkinnyPupp
04-18-2020, 07:02 PM
Don't worry, they'll all be back home once a surge of infections hits the news in about 2 weeks

EvoFire
04-18-2020, 07:38 PM
Did an s2s cruise today, on the way back, decided to turn right from W Georgia onto Denman. The amount of people walking around on the streets, and the amount of cars on the road, were so extreme that there was actually bumper to bumper traffic. It was insane.

Denman was like that 2 weeks ago, that's why they did the whole close down Stanley Park thing, and also only allow resident traffic in certain streets. Obviously it hasn't helped.

Euro7r
04-18-2020, 09:41 PM
^Last Sunday was very quiet during afternoon. Fast forward week later, today was quite busy on the roads. It's like people are fed up staying home and decided to come out today.

mikemhg
04-19-2020, 10:39 AM
I've been biking a lot over these sunny days, went from Burnaby to do the seawall yesterday, David Lam Park was the busiest I've ever seen it in my life. I literally thought I was in the middle of a protest when I first turned the bend there, every spot on both sides of the grass were covered with groups of people hanging out.

It's what I said before, the minute it gets nice and warm out, good luck telling people to quarantine inside their homes.

It's not going to happen. The best IMHO is to plan around that fact.

Hondaracer
04-19-2020, 10:49 AM
Yea Bonny Henry said basically don’t plan on having weddings or sort of gathering through the summer ie. the PNE etc.

Big events like the fireworks etc won’t happen obviously because they are run by organizations but I reallllyyyyyyy doubt big gatherings are gonna stop through the summer. The PNE is 5+ months away.

twitchyzero
04-19-2020, 10:51 AM
So giving a fuck about postal workers is wrong but you can't figure out how?

What I'd like is for people to try and be considerate of everyone involved, think about whether you actually need something or just want it because you're bored, and remember that things ordered from the internet don't just magically appear. People who are dealing with the same stuff as everyone else have to get it to you at a time when things are already overloaded.



does that mean you only buy water/canned food because most logistics/supply chain should be dedicated to PPE/meds right now?

your tea/booze/board game also didn't magically grow in the store

ImportPsycho
04-19-2020, 07:24 PM
Empty parking lot had 10+ cars, with balloons, windows down, singing happy birthday.
Cars were spaced out and everyone stayed their cars

kinda sad but what can we do...
:tears:

Teriyaki
04-19-2020, 09:55 PM
People having literal weddings over Zoom now. What a time to be alive. We'll be talking about this for ages.

SkinnyPupp
04-21-2020, 05:12 PM
5 weeks now, longest I've gone without shaving. Hit everything with a 7mm clipper, trimmed away at about the adams apple and a bit of the scragglies on the cheeks, trimmed some of the mustache so it's not dipping into my mouth

I look 35% less homeless now SeemsGood

6793026
04-21-2020, 06:15 PM
People having literal weddings over Zoom now. What a time to be alive. We'll be talking about this for ages.

why can't i have a gf NOW and have a wedding now... falk.. "sorry honey, we can't fly to china for a whole yr, we can't have a reception now, we can't even have a banquet..".... so much money savedddddddddd ahhhaha

Teriyaki
04-21-2020, 06:22 PM
why can't i have a gf NOW and have a wedding now... falk.. "sorry honey, we can't fly to china for a whole yr, we can't have a reception now, we can't even have a banquet..".... so much money savedddddddddd ahhhaha

True, those banquets don't come cheap. And, would zoom guests still be obligated to bless your wedding with some prezzies :smug:

AzNightmare
04-21-2020, 07:17 PM
why can't i have a gf NOW and have a wedding now... falk.. "sorry honey, we can't fly to china for a whole yr, we can't have a reception now, we can't even have a banquet..".... so much money savedddddddddd ahhhaha

Your gf wouldn't let you have a zoom wedding and postpone it. Definitely not how she would have imagined her dream wedding to be like.

:troll:

AstulzerRZD
04-27-2020, 11:13 PM
Maintaining a consistent routine and energy has been a major challenge for me.

Recently bought a road bike and have been putting a lot of time in on that either alone or with the friend.
We read a paper about social distancing on a bike, and apparently need to be 20m apart... so we've actually been riding with masks.

I'm finding the sun exposure/exercise has really helped! We've been riding to a lot of scenic spots that I'd normally do in a car - Grouse Mountain, UBC, Iona Beach, QE Park, etc - some of which are closed if you have a car. I guess the big question is whether we'll be able to climb Cypress or Seymour at some point this season, but given that the roads are closed there's no better time to train.

6793026
04-28-2020, 08:17 AM
^ so many people are buying bikes its not even funny. Crazyyyy how the sales are over the roof right now. It just sucks the rain is coming this week but I'm really happy people are getting outside. I'm goign to get my parents a bike to just get out. They don't have karaoke, no ping pong, no swimming, no calligraphy classes ... heck, I just bought my dad a ping pong table for his bday yesterday so he can have something to do.

There's only so much calligraphy you can do at home and their metabolism has gone down so much.. so they are unhappy with weight gains.

sonick
04-28-2020, 08:32 AM
I've been passively considering one of them Northrock bikes from Costco the past few years to get into Cycling, but just never had the additional desire and wasn't sure if I should go for a mountain or a road bike.

Used to love mountain biking as a kid but nowadays its a pain to drive out to find trails. I have never road-biked and so don't know if I would enjoy it. It seems enjoyable though from enthusiasts I speak with.

fliptuner
04-28-2020, 09:35 AM
Aaaannnnddd.... permanent layoff.

Going to start going through my inventory of car parts if anyone is looking for B/K series or EG/Integra/EM1/TSX parts.

Infiniti
04-28-2020, 09:39 AM
Empty parking lot had 10+ cars, with balloons, windows down, singing happy birthday.
Cars were spaced out and everyone stayed their cars

kinda sad but what can we do...
:tears:

People need to get over birthdays. Moreover, so what if you skip celebrating your birthday one year, there's always next year.

PeanutButter
04-28-2020, 09:55 AM
People need to get over birthdays. Moreover, so what if you skip celebrating your birthday one year, there's always next year.

I know for myself, it's just an excuse to see my friends. I don't really care about the day or the gifts, I just care about seeing the people that i'm close to.

The older I get, I start to appreciate quality time with my friends and family more.

I actually just started talking to my parents way more the last few years and I love it. Having asian parents, communication between us was never good, but my parents are so amazing, I just didn't get a chance to get to know them.

bcrdukes
04-28-2020, 09:58 AM
Aaaannnnddd.... permanent layoff.

Going to start going through my inventory of car parts if anyone is looking for B/K series or EG/Integra/EM1/TSX parts.

Yikes, sorry to hear. Hope you get back on your feet quickly.

Do you have everything to put together a complete Honda project together?

AstulzerRZD
04-28-2020, 10:00 AM
I've been passively considering one of them Northrock bikes from Costco the past few years to get into Cycling, but just never had the additional desire and wasn't sure if I should go for a mountain or a road bike.

Used to love mountain biking as a kid but nowadays its a pain to drive out to find trails. I have never road-biked and so don't know if I would enjoy it. It seems enjoyable though from enthusiasts I speak with.

Ah! Thankfully a lot of bike stores are still open and doing test rides!

See if you could give a gravel bike a try (think a turbo Subaru Legacy)! They're usually steel framed and a lot more comfortable/versatile than a pure road bike. You also feel a lot less of the road surface and gravel/rocks don't make you worry about your wheels and tires (friend's gravel bike had 47mm width tires instead of the 25 I have). There's also cyclocross bikes that are a bit more aggressive (think WRX STI)

Not sure how tall you are, but you're welcome to come give my road bike a try if you'd like - it's more on the sporty side (think E90 335)

Teriyaki
04-28-2020, 10:01 AM
I know for myself, it's just an excuse to see my friends. I don't really care about the day or the gifts, I just care about seeing the people that i'm close to.

The older I get, I start to appreciate quality time with my friends and family more.

I actually just started talking to my parents way more the last few years and I love it. Having asian parents, communication between us was never good, but my parents are so amazing, I just didn't get a chance to get to know them.

This. Getting a little more face time with parents. Went down a rabbit hole the other day learning about some more of the family drama... could literally write a TVB Drama for 50 episodes long with the stuff in there :badpokerface:

fliptuner
04-28-2020, 10:36 AM
Yikes, sorry to hear. Hope you get back on your feet quickly.

Do you have everything to put together a complete Honda project together?

Multiple lol

I could easily do 4 complete B swaps in EG's, including the cars and have 4-5 K24A2's and a K20Z3.

6793026
04-28-2020, 10:50 AM
People need to get over birthdays. Moreover, so what if you skip celebrating your birthday one year, there's always next year.
falk.. tell this to the 10000+ girls out there who needs a huge reality check. "ugh, i'm so sad i can't have drinks with my girls"... bitc* plz, there are people who can't fly (and have paid flights for wedding) etc.

Ah! Thankfully a lot of bike stores are still open and doing test rides!

bikes are essential service (as 90% of them does repairs, hence essential; unlike those who hates cyclists and says why gov't has to be bias on just opening bike stores).

I've been passively considering one of them Northrock bikes from Costco the past few years to get into Cycling, but just never had the additional desire and wasn't sure if I should go for a mountain or a road bike.

Used to love mountain biking as a kid but nowadays its a pain to drive out to find trails. I have never road-biked and so don't know if I would enjoy it. It seems enjoyable though from enthusiasts I speak with.

It's really diff. to choose between the two; definitely mountain is what we are comfortable with (sitting position). Yes, road bike is tough to get used and you have to bend forward etc. but it's less messy to take ur dirt bike out to trails.

i went full retard with road cycling so you can pm me if you have questions.

ssjGoku69
04-28-2020, 11:14 AM
How much should I spend on race spandex for my daily commute to the office?

hud 91gt
04-28-2020, 11:22 AM
Depends how quickly you want to look like you got there.

Ch28
04-28-2020, 11:28 AM
People need to get over birthdays. Moreover, so what if you skip celebrating your birthday one year, there's always next year.

But how are they going to get that attention they crave if they don't celebrate during a global pandemic where people are dying?

hud 91gt
04-28-2020, 12:04 PM
Ones love to celebrate a birthday I believe is directly proportionate to their lack of stressful life experiences.

MG1
04-28-2020, 12:37 PM
Aaaannnnddd.... permanent layoff.

Going to start going through my inventory of car parts if anyone is looking for B/K series or EG/Integra/EM1/TSX parts.

Sorry to hear that. Like me, you are a survivor. You'll do whatever it takes to make ends meet. You are one of the most resourceful people I know. I'm not worried one bit about you. Others on here, not so much.

If, by any chance, you need anything, like a place to work on cars, tools, etc. I'm there............ 6 feet apart, that is, gulolol. There's all the other people on RS you've gotten to know over the years. I don't think any of them will hesitate to help you out, as well.


RS virtual group hug!

punkwax
04-28-2020, 12:38 PM
I feel for my daughter.. she turns 13 on Thursday and I recall becoming a teenager as being a bit of a big deal. So yesterday I was hanging LED’s in her room and she’s synching them to her Google Home to have a dance party with her siblings.

Also let her go a little nuts on amazon and tossed her her first $100 bill. Doing what I can to make this as special for her as possible because aside from a couple of driveway hellos with her BFF and grandparents, she’s not getting much else. Oh her favourite sushi too.. I got to make sure they’re open still!

Parent pro-tip: I was going to give her the $100 anyway but I positioned it as though she’s earning it each day by watching her little brother while mom and dad watch an episode of Zero, Zero, Zero. Win win! LUL

Traum
04-28-2020, 12:42 PM
Aaaannnnddd.... permanent layoff.

Going to start going through my inventory of car parts if anyone is looking for B/K series or EG/Integra/EM1/TSX parts.
Sorry to hear that. At least CERB is a certainty that you can rely on, and it is easier to deal with than EI.

MG1
04-28-2020, 12:44 PM
People need to get over birthdays. Moreover, so what if you skip celebrating your birthday one year, there's always next year.

I stopped celebrating birthdays eons ago. At my age, it means you're that much closer to your death.......... why the hell would I celebrated that?

Mind you, I should listen to my own advice, YODO and celebrate every moment I'm alive and healthy - every day is a bonus.

mikemhg
04-28-2020, 01:06 PM
If anyone is craving to do pull ups and such during this whole quarantine, I purchased a life saver last week that has been great in my backyard here.

https://www.roguecanada.ca/rogue-wood-rings

I didn't buy the exact pair as above, but picked up a similar pair from a calisthenics gym in Port Moody (they have plenty of stock apparently).

I have these setup on this wood pillar that runs above my patio.

It's been a life saver for me, way easier than drilling and setting up a damn pull up bar, potentially pissing off my Strata.

hud 91gt
04-28-2020, 02:12 PM
I love my rings. I have them setup with my TRX. Recently started using rings for the pulls vs the bar as I’m old, don’t celebrate birthdays and it was hurting my joints.

Hondaracer
04-28-2020, 06:56 PM
Anyone play Dominion? Bought two of the expansions this past weekend, really enjoying it even with 2 players

SkunkWorks
04-29-2020, 04:33 AM
On the topic of bikes...

http://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/gottaStudy.png

quasi
04-29-2020, 06:17 AM
Week 8 of isolation, getting a little stir crazy. One thing is evident, I get more work done at home then I ever did in the office and quite honestly was expecting the opposite results. Since being home I've been sticking to a pretty tight schedule of starting work at my regular time, problem is I haven't been ending or stopping at the regular hours I work longer hours and not only that I'll find myself taking a break for dinner spending a bit of time with the wife and then heading back to my office to do more work.

The other night I was just going to reply to some emails before bed then 4 hours later it's 2am and I have to be up in 5 hours.

sonick
04-29-2020, 07:00 AM
Week 8 of isolation, getting a little stir crazy. One thing is evident, I get more work done at home then I ever did in the office and quite honestly was expecting the opposite results. Since being home I've been sticking to a pretty tight schedule of starting work at my regular time, problem is I haven't been ending or stopping at the regular hours I work longer hours and not only that I'll find myself taking a break for dinner spending a bit of time with the wife and then heading back to my office to do more work.

The other night I was just going to reply to some emails before bed then 4 hours later it's 2am and I have to be up in 5 hours.

Yup, I made this very clear to my team early on in the situation to look out for this, that it's too easy to continue working and risk burn out.

Important to set clear boundaries, both physically and mentally between work and not work. Have a routine in place to indicate when work stops.

I make it a point to walk around the block when I turn off my work computer, and almost 'commute' home so that when I return, I'm in 'home' mode and avoid checking work emails as much as possible.

My work gave a wfh credit to allow people to buy things to make their workspace more comfortable, and every team member I talked to said getting a proper desk/chair/standing desk etc. setup (vs working from a couch, kitchen counter, etc) made a world of difference.

Traum
04-29-2020, 09:31 AM
I'm sure this has already been mentioned somewhere in this thread already, but it is worth repeating that if you're WFH, some household expenses are tax-deductible. You just have to get your employer to fill out a T-2200 form (https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/forms-publications/forms/t2200.html). (And of coures, you have to keep your household expenses invoices as proof of expenses.)

https://globalnews.ca/news/6841867/working-from-home-tax-deductable-expenses/

My work gave a wfh credit to allow people to buy things to make their workspace more comfortable, and every team member I talked to said getting a proper desk/chair/standing desk etc. setup (vs working from a couch, kitchen counter, etc) made a world of difference.

Ch28
04-29-2020, 09:54 AM
Week 8 of isolation, getting a little stir crazy. One thing is evident, I get more work done at home then I ever did in the office and quite honestly was expecting the opposite results. Since being home I've been sticking to a pretty tight schedule of starting work at my regular time, problem is I haven't been ending or stopping at the regular hours I work longer hours and not only that I'll find myself taking a break for dinner spending a bit of time with the wife and then heading back to my office to do more work.

The other night I was just going to reply to some emails before bed then 4 hours later it's 2am and I have to be up in 5 hours.

We had this conversation in our virtual team meeting on Monday. It seems that households that don't have young children are finding the entire idea of working from home very appealing. They're getting more work done with less distractions, whereas, employees with a younger family find it to be the opposite because their time is being taken away by their kids wanting mommy/daddy time.

Euro7r
04-29-2020, 10:07 AM
Aside from the shit communication with my company, working from home been good (saved some money). Less gas/transit/food from eating out/miscellaneous expenses. Also you get more time to yourself from not having to commute (easily 1-2 hours minimum a day saved).

Raid3n
04-29-2020, 12:03 PM
lost my job too, around mid month.
thankfully i had a lot of banked vacation and also got a really good severance package.

i hope they reopen my job in a few months, but i'm not really holding my breath lol.

maybe i'll go into a trade or something..

68style
04-29-2020, 04:22 PM
^ Sorry to hear that man hope everything works out for you

Ch28
04-29-2020, 05:47 PM
Does anyone have any experience with expensing work from home items used solely for the purpose of their home office?

I didn't have an actual home office setup prior to working from home, and now I'm in need of an office chair. The dining table chair that I've been using for the past month is completely deflated and I don't think it's viable to ruin the cushion on all 4 chairs.

I did some digging and it appears the employer needs to fill out a Form T2200 Declaration of Conditions of Employment. Is this something that is done on a case by case basis, or does the employer need to fill it out if requested by the employee?

Fafine
04-29-2020, 06:37 PM
cant head back to your office and take your chair home? thats what i did for my gf. Brought her whole set up home; keyboard, mouse, dual monitors, docking station, and chair

ssjGoku69
04-29-2020, 06:46 PM
Form T2200 Declaration of Conditions of Employment

Ask your employer if they're willing to sign a T2200 in case CRA asks for it. It doesn't cost your employer anything to sign. As long as your employment expense claim is a small amount; This shouldn't trigger CRA algorithms to request for supporting documents. However, it doesn't look like the T777 form by default considers buying capital equipment like an office chair as an expense.


Given the situation with WFH, I think there will be a lot of people claiming work-space-in-the-home expenses on their tax return.

6793026
04-29-2020, 07:29 PM
I didn't bother with the T2200. It helped like 60-300 dollars (i live in an apartment)... didn't bother.

Great68
04-29-2020, 09:23 PM
Given the situation with WFH, I think there will be a lot of people claiming work-space-in-the-home expenses on their tax return.

It's going to be an interesting one for the CRA come tax year 2021. It would normally only be applicable if it's a requirement of your employment contract to work from home.

I'm working from home, but my company never said that I could not go into they office, they just allowed people to make the choice to work from home to stay safer. I don't think I could claim this.

Expresso
04-29-2020, 09:54 PM
The amounts will be nominal. Not worth the time/effort.

EvoFire
04-29-2020, 10:05 PM
We had this conversation in our virtual team meeting on Monday. It seems that households that don't have young children are finding the entire idea of working from home very appealing. They're getting more work done with less distractions, whereas, employees with a younger family find it to be the opposite because their time is being taken away by their kids wanting mommy/daddy time.

Finding that my work day is being interrupted by my infant quite often. I end up sometimes pushing until dinner time and after dinner to try and make up the lost time. Which in turn burns me out because now I have no me time.

Liquid_o2
04-29-2020, 10:08 PM
I want to grab my chair from the office, but I don't think it will fit in my Civic :rukidding:

Wish I had a truck or wagon in times like these.

Jmac
04-29-2020, 11:24 PM
I want to grab my chair from the office, but I don't think it will fit in my Civic :rukidding:

Wish I had a truck or wagon in times like these.
Office chairs are ridiculously easy to assemble and disassemble.

Expresso
04-30-2020, 07:15 AM
I want to grab my chair from the office, but I don't think it will fit in my Civic :rukidding:

Wish I had a truck or wagon in times like these.

Co-worker threw his in the back seat of his corolla lol.

MG1
04-30-2020, 10:01 AM
Question is, did he put it through the hatch or just the rear door? Probably not the hatch if car doesn't have one. A friend of mine threw his back out the last time he tried to manage an office chair into the back seat of his subcompact. Luckily it had a hatch, so he threw it in there and left the hatch up. :troll:

AzNightmare
04-30-2020, 01:21 PM
If you don't have a hatch, it should still be alright if you slide it in to the back seats from the rear door.

One time I had a civic sedan as my courtesy car, I had to slide my huge goalie bag into the back seats in from the rear doors. It wasn't pretty, but it worked. Then I parked in the parking lot and realized I couldn't open my rear door full swing to take the bag out with cars in the adjacent stall. So you might have to take the chair out first before you fully pull in if that's your scenario.

GS8
04-30-2020, 01:56 PM
I want to grab my chair from the office, but I don't think it will fit in my Civic :rukidding:

Wish I had a truck or wagon in times like these.

Is this your office chair?

:troll:

https://i.imgur.com/W6d64x7.jpeg

Presto
04-30-2020, 02:04 PM
We are a non-profit, and income is down. My office is encouraging people to volunteer for hours/wage of 20% for 6 - 8 weeks. I took it. Long weekends sound pretty good, and we have sufficient income that this won't be too severe a hit.

6793026
04-30-2020, 06:44 PM
Never ever got the "reduce ur salary" for gov't workers.

Just cause it's shutdown, doesn't mean the city officials who are running issues are working less; in fact, they are working MORE to deal with more issues.

Also have to be careful for those who are given "the offer is only 50k now, we expect to give you back 30% more pay when this COVID is over"
errrr... so you mind putting that down on paper on a specific date when it will be over? CoV declare it over or how your company considers it being over? Who is there to govern....

MarkyMark
04-30-2020, 06:49 PM
Have any government workers been laid off from this?

68style
04-30-2020, 11:36 PM
Lots of municipal workers got laid off... not sure about fed tho

GLOW
05-01-2020, 05:55 AM
yep, at the municipal level library and community centre staff for example have been laid off.

other city staff that are still needed have taken a hair cut and reduced work days

Bouncing Bettys
05-01-2020, 07:17 AM
Working outside all day, the struggle to go to the bathroom is real. Most are closed to the public. I'm having to constantly keep an eye out for secluded areas and bushes as I go from work site to work site.

TOS'd
05-01-2020, 08:03 AM
Is it still next to impossible to find a Logitech webcam right now? Any alternatives that are readily available?

Hondaracer
05-01-2020, 08:46 AM
Working outside all day, the struggle to go to the bathroom is real. Most are closed to the public. I'm having to constantly keep an eye out for secluded areas and bushes as I go from work site to work site.

Tell me about it.. even driving around it’s tough

Ludepower
05-01-2020, 09:37 AM
Have any government workers been laid off from this?

Wife works federal. That's a NOPE.

Simplex123
05-01-2020, 09:48 AM
My temporary assignment at work ends today and they won't be extending any of the temps due to a low volume of work. They mentioned that we'll be on a recall list when things pick up.. but who knwos when that is. Good thing they're considering it a layoff and will be providing us with an ROE.

Jmac
05-01-2020, 10:18 AM
Is it still next to impossible to find a Logitech webcam right now? Any alternatives that are readily available?
If you can’t find one, I can ship you a Logitech C920 if I can find it (we moved in December, still in a box somewhere).

twitchyzero
05-01-2020, 10:25 AM
chin-up bar from amazon.ca marketplace with est delivery may 1-25 from china just had the dhl tracking # vanish :suspicious:

whitev70r
05-01-2020, 10:36 AM
Wife works federal. That's a NOPE.

Wouldn't that be irony, Feds lay off workers, then they can apply for Covid Emergency Fund OR Government can apply for the 75% subsidy to pay their employees.

TOS'd
05-01-2020, 10:41 AM
If you can’t find one, I can ship you a Logitech C920 if I can find it (we moved in December, still in a box somewhere).

Thanks for the offer. I might be changing jobs during all of this which means i have to return the one i borrowed from the office. I'll keep you posted and if I do need it, we can work out costs etc.

TouringTeg
05-01-2020, 10:49 AM
My temporary assignment at work ends today and they won't be extending any of the temps due to a low volume of work. They mentioned that we'll be on a recall list when things pick up.. but who knwos when that is. Good thing they're considering it a layoff and will be providing us with an ROE.

Sorry to hear that. Hopefully work picks up again soon.

Euro7r
05-07-2020, 07:33 AM
With provinces slowly reopening up now, hopefully my work doesn't reopen right away back the office completely. The amount of things I can get done now working from home is unbelievable as I shave off easily 1-1.5 hour of commute time which I can devote to exercising more/personal errands. My body feels healthier physically and you feel more joyful without the dread of "commuting".

ImportPsycho
05-14-2020, 04:17 PM
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quasi
06-18-2020, 09:15 AM
Who else was working at home but is back in the office full time?

I stayed home March till the end of May went back for beginning of June which was my choice. Working at home production level was 130% now back at the office It's probably 70%, so hard to focus here which seems weird.

I think it's a combination of getting back into a routine and also the projects I'm working on right now just don't interest me at all. Days were flying by when at home here they are dragging out like a mofo.

Hakkaboy
06-18-2020, 09:54 AM
Yes its the steelcase gesture. Picked it up for $1250 at modern office furnishing. Its incredibly comfortable and adjustable. Have not had any back issues since using it for 6 weeks now.

I have been sitting my ass in this chair for like 10-12 hours a day since I'm stuck at home.

I'd say its worth the money but my company covered it so I shouldn't really comment on value.



I finally got to try out the Gesture, and I think I may like it the most out of all the Steelcase and Herman Miller chairs I've tried.

I did make the mistake of trying it both with and without the headrest, and wish I didn't cuz it made it super comfy when you recline, but it's an extra $200 and you only use it when you recline

Euro7r
06-18-2020, 09:57 AM
Who else was working at home but is back in the office full time?

I stayed home March till the end of May went back for beginning of June which was my choice. Working at home production level was 130% now back at the office It's probably 70%, so hard to focus here which seems weird.

I think it's a combination of getting back into a routine and also the projects I'm working on right now just don't interest me at all. Days were flying by when at home here they are dragging out like a mofo.

Still working from home 100% (hopefully indefinitely LOL). I just hate the act of getting up and commuting to work (not that I hate working in the actual office itself). I just spent $400 on a new office chair from Autonomous, night and day difference with my cheapo $130 leather Staples chair from 5 years ago.

bobbinka
06-18-2020, 10:16 AM
bought a used Steelcase Leap on CL. wish i had pulled the trigger sooner. it feels good to have a proper chair to work in.

invader
06-18-2020, 10:24 AM
So many choices for chairs, how did you guys narrow it down to one?
I need to upgrade my chair badly

Gerbs
06-18-2020, 10:25 AM
My office has officially reopened for those who want to return to the office. However, they decided that everyone is just as efficient at home so we are allowed to work from home as well. I don't think I'll return to the office more than once every 2 - 4 weeks.

EvoFire
06-18-2020, 10:26 AM
Still working from home full time.

Amazon has said they don't expect to have ppl back in office at least until Oct.
EA not until next year.
Shopify going full remote.

Don't think the tech world is going to have everyone back to offices anytime soon. No company wants to be that first.

bobbinka
06-18-2020, 10:42 AM
So many choices for chairs, how did you guys narrow it down to one?
I need to upgrade my chair badly

1. Read/watch a ton of reviews
2. Try sitting in some

That's the only way to know if a chair is for you.

The Herman Miller Aeron and Steelcase Leap V2 are two of the most popular chairs. There are a lot of comparisons online you can check out.

6793026
06-18-2020, 10:55 AM
^^ that's because amazon and facebook in Seattle are still having outbreaks.

Euro7r
06-18-2020, 11:15 AM
So many choices for chairs, how did you guys narrow it down to one?
I need to upgrade my chair badly

https://www.autonomous.ai/office-chairs/ergonomic-chair

I bought this one. I contemplated Herman Miller since I literally sit at my desk all day for long hours (I'll use the crap out of it and get my moneys worth anyways), but the price tag for Herman Miller costs twice as much. Went for a cheaper alternative that seemed bang for buck. There is a 10% discount code and then on arrival I complained about some minor issue and they issued me another 10% refund (total 20% off lol).

pastarocket
06-18-2020, 11:15 AM
-finally got my work cell phone and laptop from management. :lawl:

-have been working at home since mid March by remote access to network using my home PC.

-slowpoke federal government gives me a work phone and laptop in early June.
:facepalm:

invader
06-18-2020, 03:05 PM
https://www.autonomous.ai/office-chairs/ergonomic-chair

I bought this one. I contemplated Herman Miller since I literally sit at my desk all day for long hours (I'll use the crap out of it and get my moneys worth anyways), but the price tag for Herman Miller costs twice as much. Went for a cheaper alternative that seemed bang for buck. There is a 10% discount code and then on arrival I complained about some minor issue and they issued me another 10% refund (total 20% off lol).

Hey that chair looks good, and it resembles the Herman Miller design. How is it so far? Would you recommend it? I need to buy two chairs total. Did it ship from within Canada? If not, did you get slapped with duty?

Euro7r
06-18-2020, 03:49 PM
Hey that chair looks good, and it resembles the Herman Miller design. How is it so far? Would you recommend it? I need to buy two chairs total. Did it ship from within Canada? If not, did you get slapped with duty?

For $400 (tax in total - after the discounts), it's definitely good bang for buck value without paying the hefty price of Herman Miller. It shipped from Canada (no duties from Fedex). So far so good, it keeps my back straight with good posture (I don't feel tired or discomfort sitting long hours so far). Shipping was stupid because they sent me an email item has been shipped in the morning and 30 minutes later it arrived at my door (not sure what happened there).

Nvasion
06-18-2020, 09:40 PM
I got this chair

https://store.steelcase.com/ccrz__ProductDetails?viewState=DetailView&store=&cclcl=en_US&sku=UG6FX6ZC9FX8FN8TV3ZP

Best chair for me ever! Was 1000 bucks though. Good thing work paid for it.

68style
06-18-2020, 10:34 PM
I would never pay more than like $100-$150 for an office chair, that shits crazy... you guys are too into brand names

(Though if work is paying for it, why the hell not hahaha)

underscore
06-18-2020, 10:40 PM
There's a lot of things that seems pricey but when you factor in how many hours of use you get out of them it's pretty reasonable. If you're working full time you're spending about 2,000hrs/year sitting in that seat or looking at that screen.

hi-revs
06-18-2020, 11:16 PM
Who else was working at home but is back in the office full time?

I stayed home March till the end of May went back for beginning of June which was my choice. Working at home production level was 130% now back at the office It's probably 70%, so hard to focus here which seems weird.

I think it's a combination of getting back into a routine and also the projects I'm working on right now just don't interest me at all. Days were flying by when at home here they are dragging out like a mofo.

My entire office is WFH until Sept at the earliest. Even then, it'll be a phased return.

TOS'd
06-19-2020, 05:36 AM
I got this chair

https://store.steelcase.com/ccrz__ProductDetails?viewState=DetailView&store=&cclcl=en_US&sku=UG6FX6ZC9FX8FN8TV3ZP

Best chair for me ever! Was 1000 bucks though. Good thing work paid for it.

The Leap v2 and the older Leap v1 are great office chairs. Had them both in my previous offices. If you don't mind buying used office furniture, these were going for $300-$450 reupholstered pre-covid.

sonick
06-19-2020, 06:47 AM
Our office is opening back up entirely voluntary with limited capacity and scheduling if needed.

Other than that, I've spent the last two months or so sprucing up my balcony, swept and mopped it, put up fake hedges for privacy, and re-arranged/cleaned the furniture.

Spending more outdoor time when the sun is out has been nice to not get cabin fever.

whitev70r
06-19-2020, 07:46 AM
Stanley Park to reopen to cars, park board decides after hours-long meeting (https://bc.ctvnews.ca/stanley-park-to-reopen-to-cars-park-board-decides-after-hours-long-meeting-1.4991325)

It was fun while it lasted!

Ch28
06-19-2020, 08:07 AM
Who else was working at home but is back in the office full time?

I stayed home March till the end of May went back for beginning of June which was my choice. Working at home production level was 130% now back at the office It's probably 70%, so hard to focus here which seems weird.

I think it's a combination of getting back into a routine and also the projects I'm working on right now just don't interest me at all. Days were flying by when at home here they are dragging out like a mofo.

Our entire department has been fully electronic for years now and our director said we'll be one of the last groups of people back into the office. Our office is currently at max capacity, so there's absolutely zero chance that they can get everyone back in without breaking provincial orders on how to distance at work. At some point, they'll start to transition the ones that really need to be in office back in, but last I heard, that's not going to happen for at least another month or two. It wouldn't surprise me if my department is working from home for the rest of this year.

What they're doing right now is plexiglassing all the cubicles and every other one will be empty. The other issue is how they're going to get everyone into work from the lobby since each elevator can only safely hold 2 people at a time :lol

Liquid_o2
06-19-2020, 09:00 AM
Stanley Park to reopen to cars, park board decides after hours-long meeting (https://bc.ctvnews.ca/stanley-park-to-reopen-to-cars-park-board-decides-after-hours-long-meeting-1.4991325)

It was fun while it lasted!

Best possible solution. One lane for cars, another for bikes. There really was no need for two car lanes for most of the year. Only on the busiest summer weekends could it be an issue.

BIC_BAWS
06-19-2020, 09:49 AM
Best possible solution. One lane for cars, another for bikes. There really was no need for two car lanes for most of the year. Only on the busiest summer weekends could it be an issue.

Or for the midnight tofu delivery

quasi
06-19-2020, 10:15 AM
Our entire department has been fully electronic for years now and our director said we'll be one of the last groups of people back into the office. Our office is currently at max capacity, so there's absolutely zero chance that they can get everyone back in without breaking provincial orders on how to distance at work. At some point, they'll start to transition the ones that really need to be in office back in, but last I heard, that's not going to happen for at least another month or two. It wouldn't surprise me if my department is working from home for the rest of this year.

What they're doing right now is plexiglassing all the cubicles and every other one will be empty. The other issue is how they're going to get everyone into work from the lobby since each elevator can only safely hold 2 people at a time :lol

Our office at least this location is a pretty small team so it's pretty easy to social distance. My biggest concern is the shared kitchen/bathrooms and touching door handles.

I can have people in my office and still maintain 6', I don't think I could do cubicles with or without plexiglass I don't want people looking at my monitors what if I'm on revscene? haha

https://i.imgur.com/Xjd9e9W.jpg

CivicBlues
06-19-2020, 11:01 AM
As of next Monday I have been WFH for exactly 1 year now (I'm remote for a US based company). I still to this day just work off my couch or the kitchen table. Granted I'm not coding or anything that requires me to stare at a screen for hours upon hours. I've spent basically $0 on any home office upgrades (because I've got no space to have one, zing!) but I have spent some $$ upgrading my balcony so that it's habitable to work from in the summer months. So far no weird back issues or carpal tunnel syndrome. People spending $500+ on an office chair out of pocket are nuts IMO.

underscore
06-19-2020, 12:00 PM
Our office at least this location is a pretty small team so it's pretty easy to social distance. My biggest concern is the shared kitchen/bathrooms and touching door handles.

I can have people in my office and still maintain 6', I don't think I could do cubicles with or without plexiglass I don't want people looking at my monitors what if I'm on revscene? haha

https://i.imgur.com/Xjd9e9W.jpg

I think I have the same desk as you (or a similar one). You should look at getting a stand for those monitors, it frees up so much desk space.

roastpuff
06-19-2020, 12:48 PM
People spending $500+ on an office chair out of pocket are nuts IMO.

Two things our body touches the most is our bed and our work chair (if you have an office-based job). Just like how we put good tires on our car, I'm okay with spending the money to have a good chair and a good mattress in order to have a comfortable resting time and working time.

Considering how both items last longer than most of our car tires, what's $500?

Euro7r
06-19-2020, 01:13 PM
Two things our body touches the most is our bed and our work chair (if you have an office-based job). Just like how we put good tires on our car, I'm okay with spending the money to have a good chair and a good mattress in order to have a comfortable resting time and working time.

Considering how both items last longer than most of our car tires, what's $500?

Agreed. If it is something you are using a lot in a given day, it's worthwhile to invest to.

winson604
06-19-2020, 01:21 PM
You never know until you try a quality chair. In my office they're all Herman millers, they are all 11 years old and have been sat on by hundreds of people daily with zero regard. Only 1 single chair has ever broke and all the rest are going strong.

bcrdukes
06-19-2020, 01:36 PM
CivicBlues' office chairs. Blue one is his.
https://adventure.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Plastic-chairs-of-South-East-Asia-Photo-credit-Chris-Hilton-03.jpg

CivicBlues
06-19-2020, 02:51 PM
:lol I must have coilovers in my spine or something, I sat all day in nice ergonomic chairs when I was back at my old job in the office. Now I'm sitting on wooden dining table chairs with some padding and I feel exactly the same. Just get up and walk around every 30 mins. Again, not saying this is for everyone and maybe this will eventually catch up to me who knows.

invader
06-19-2020, 03:10 PM
I been eyeing a proper chair for a while. After reading this thread I am going to pull the trigger for two.
And then a top of the line for my new office. If I have got TE37RT and Advan GT's for my GTR. I need the equivalent for my ass.

6793026
06-19-2020, 11:05 PM
Water cooler gossip is what I miss the most; you share insights from other companies which you don't get anywhere when you sit at home via zoom.

I'll miss all the free catered food into the office and hot co-workers to look at.

$1000 chairs versus my $50 dollar chair at home.. meh...

Lastly, open concept office has always sucked, how the F am I able to yell at someone without someone overhearing me is always beyond me. Stupidest concept ever.

spoon.ek9
06-20-2020, 09:15 AM
Our office is opening back up entirely voluntary with limited capacity and scheduling if needed.

Other than that, I've spent the last two months or so sprucing up my balcony, swept and mopped it, put up fake hedges for privacy, and re-arranged/cleaned the furniture.

Spending more outdoor time when the sun is out has been nice to not get cabin fever.

post a pic! I saw a brief balcony reno the other day on FB that got me thinking what to do with my space

Euro7r
06-20-2020, 10:37 AM
Water cooler gossip is what I miss the most; you share insights from other companies which you don't get anywhere when you sit at home via zoom.

I'll miss all the free catered food into the office and hot co-workers to look at.

$1000 chairs versus my $50 dollar chair at home.. meh...

Lastly, open concept office has always sucked, how the F am I able to yell at someone without someone overhearing me is always beyond me. Stupidest concept ever.

Reminds me of my last company I worked over 8 years for. We moved to a newly renovated office when after I few months I joined, so they gutted out the new space and redesigned it. Boss thought it would be a great idea to get rid of cubicle dividers, now they really fuck themselves in the ass with Covid. Boss didn't like how old office the cubicle dividers were blocking his vision of seeing what people were doing when he walked by. Literally nothing dividing the space, pretty much open.

6793026
06-20-2020, 03:47 PM
^Feels like you're in a freaking portable in high school and we have to do group projects... super loud.

Tegra_Devil
06-20-2020, 04:36 PM
wrong thread

dark0821
06-21-2020, 08:02 AM
Reminds me of my last company I worked over 8 years for. We moved to a newly renovated office when after I few months I joined, so they gutted out the new space and redesigned it. Boss thought it would be a great idea to get rid of cubicle dividers, now they really fuck themselves in the ass with Covid. Boss didn't like how old office the cubicle dividers were blocking his vision of seeing what people were doing when he walked by. Literally nothing dividing the space, pretty much open.

lolol... soooo a internet cafe~~~ lololol

twitchyzero
06-21-2020, 06:20 PM
this was mentioned in the RE thread briefly

'Canadians working from home permanently should expect salary changes'

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-canadians-working-from-home-permanently-should-expect-salary-changes/

tl;dr getting paid less for the same roles & responsibilities suck, but now that it's remote, anyone who can speak english with the same skill set and internet connection is fair game so competition just shot up

quasi
06-21-2020, 06:38 PM
this was mentioned in the RE thread briefly

'Canadians working from home permanently should expect salary changes'

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-canadians-working-from-home-permanently-should-expect-salary-changes/

tl;dr getting paid less for the same roles & responsibilities suck, but now that it's remote, anyone who can speak english with the same skill set and internet connection is fair game so competition just shot up

That's fair, I honestly don't have a problem with it. Now if he said everyone at home is taking a paycut because you no longer have to commute or something along those lines I'd be like that's BS.

I'm still trying to figure out how to approach it moving forward, typically people in my role do not work from home unless they are contractors I'm an employee. That said I was more productive at home and I enjoyed it, I'd like to do it sometimes not sure if that's 1 or 2 days a week or what but I'm trying to figure out what would be best and then I'll figure out a way to bring it up to the owner of the company in a way that's bringing it up without really asking to get the seed planted because I know if I go to my manager from the jump he'll shoot me down, I've asked in the past before covid and he brushed me off.

quasi
06-21-2020, 06:41 PM
Lastly, open concept office has always sucked, how the F am I able to yell at someone without someone overhearing me is always beyond me. Stupidest concept ever.

Exactly, what if I lose it and throw something at the wall, put me in an open office and it's totally a safety issue.

I'm half joking. :)

bcrdukes
06-21-2020, 07:59 PM
There are some flaws in the notion of lowering employee salaries based on where they live.

I wouldn't get so riled up about it (yet.) The jobs at Facebook typically are within the domains of software development, marketing, data scientists etc. A lot of these jobs are high in demand, and good talent often comes at a cost, like most things in life. Sure, you can have an employee live out in Boise, Idaho, or Lac La Biche, or Selkirk, Manitoba, but if you have good talent that you can't afford to lose, do you keep them by paying them less? Someone else will be ready with a juicy offer for them. Trump's politics and economic policies don't make it easy to hire foreign nationals on H1-B visas anymore. Other than to delve into the realm of third-party economics, or an outsourcing engagement in BRICS countries, it doesn't necessarily work. And do you really want to hire Russian software developers? :D

underscore
06-21-2020, 08:06 PM
this was mentioned in the RE thread briefly

'Canadians working from home permanently should expect salary changes'

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-canadians-working-from-home-permanently-should-expect-salary-changes/

tl;dr getting paid less for the same roles & responsibilities suck, but now that it's remote, anyone who can speak english with the same skill set and internet connection is fair game so competition just shot up

At the same time though you can now move to anywhere you want (like an area that's cheaper to live) and keep your current job.

6793026
06-21-2020, 08:21 PM
working from home works GREAT for certain families, if you got 4 kids (my buddy), he's dying ot go back to work in office.

2 people living in downtown was tough, not working together in the same house was fine, but now, they gotta figure out a way to have their own "zoom / webex" zones has proven difficult.

Hondaracer
06-21-2020, 08:47 PM
We’ve had serious meetings via bridged calls and virtual meetings and I’m sorry but I’ve got to say, having your kids in the background is unprofessional af.

lilaznviper
06-21-2020, 08:58 PM
yup every phone call or teams calls i get for people needing technical help, always either a kid screaming in the bg or a dog barking like crazy

punkwax
06-21-2020, 09:26 PM
^ fortunately for me, I have a quiet office space in the garage. That said, it’s not climate controlled like the rest of my house. The previous owner built it and... it’s kinda ghetto. If I have an important webinar and need silence, I’ll head in there. If I’m talking to regular clients that I have a personal relationship with, fuck it, I’m in the house.

I’ll just say this, if you’re bothered by the background noise of whatever’s going on, whoever you’re talking to is likely far more annoyed than you are. I just say it’s no big deal because chances are they’re embarrassed af already. It’s not business as usual these days.

Ronin
06-21-2020, 09:43 PM
Anyone buy any WFH gadgets? Looks like this is what I'm doing for the long haul.

I bought a massage pillow last week since I'm sitting at my desk all damn day.

Mikoyan
06-21-2020, 10:55 PM
^Made 2x4 acoustic panels out of Rockwool panels to reduce sound coming from wife's office and upstairs via the stairwell door.

I'm set up at the back of the living room/dining room downstairs. Bonus is my 5.2.4 home theatre is set up there, so the sound treatments are good for that too.

quasi
06-22-2020, 06:20 AM
^Made 2x4 acoustic panels out of Rockwool panels to reduce sound coming from wife's office and upstairs via the stairwell door.

I'm set up at the back of the living room/dining room downstairs. Bonus is my 5.2.4 home theatre is set up there, so the sound treatments are good for that too.

That's a pretty good idea I should do the same for my sons room he woke me up again last night playing his Fn games.

Typical acoustical panels are nothing more then semi-rigid insulation wrapped in fabric the same type of insulation used to wrap mechanical ducts but unfaced. That's what all the theatres use.

We have a bunch of left over Tectum in our warehouse here I've been meaning to take some home, back with insulation and add it to his walls not sure that would even help though he's so loud.

bcrdukes
06-22-2020, 11:53 AM
Trump just announced he is signing an executive order to limit foreign work visas, angering Silicon Valley high tech companies. The only exception so far are healthcare workers related to their work on the battle against COVID-19.

Ronin
06-22-2020, 12:09 PM
Trump just announced he is signing an executive order to limit foreign work visas, angering Silicon Valley high tech companies. The only exception so far are healthcare workers related to their work on the battle against COVID-19.

LOL they don't give a fuck about Silicon Valley. Trump is all about clean coal and steel workers and other old timey occupations.

CivicBlues
06-22-2020, 12:34 PM
Prepare for an influx of could-have H1Bs to Canada.

iwantaskyline
06-22-2020, 11:01 PM
silicon valley doesn't care anymore - a significant amount of their future hirings are going to be remote workers.

68style
06-22-2020, 11:57 PM
Yah shaping up to be a nice excuse for big business to marginalize workers again... oh you work from home your job is easier so you get less pay... meanwhile they are also pocketing the savings of you providing your own office and internet and whatever else and they don't have to lease a building or maintain anything or provide any amenities anymore. PROFIT$$$

Euro7r
06-23-2020, 09:26 AM
I don't quite get the argument completely why they think if people work from home in the long run or permanently maybe will be taking less pay. The organizations are spending less such as taxable benefits/office resources; whereas the employees are somewhat spending more such as telecommunications/electricity/office supplies than normal for at home usage. Some will argue it's cheaper to hire foreign workers, but I question how many really want to deal with the tax implications.

twitchyzero
06-23-2020, 10:31 AM
the worker may live further away from the city
paying less rent/mtg or upgrade to sthing bigger
save child care, gas, insurance, bus pass, work wear etc

twitchyzero
06-23-2020, 10:36 AM
not directly translatable to cost savings but the average employee will also gain 5 hours each week that would've been spent in traffic

BIC_BAWS
06-23-2020, 01:15 PM
I think this belongs here instead of the coronavirus thread?

I was in Kelowna/Vernon over the weekend to get my car. Vernon, no one wore masks, not even employees of the insurance place in Vernon wore a mask. Plexi-glass was up, hand sani was avail, and only 2 people allowed inside at a time.

In Downtown Kelowna masks were not seen at all. Went to a ribs place, employees had masks on, patio was not staggered enough but inside tables were booths. Hand sani was provided but you had to use the spray cleaner bottle.

GLOW
06-24-2020, 06:45 AM
We’ve had serious meetings via bridged calls and virtual meetings and I’m sorry but I’ve got to say, having your kids in the background is unprofessional af.

yup every phone call or teams calls i get for people needing technical help, always either a kid screaming in the bg or a dog barking like crazy

i'm kind of used to it, everyone's trying to figure out their situation. sometimes a closed door isn't enough to stop all sound and young kids look for parents. hell my coworker lives near chinatown and i hear ambulances and people screaming in the alley :lol

i just go with it, though if they're not speaking we ask everyone to be on mute. i'd rather see a person and maybe a photobomb of a kid in the background than black screens. it's more personalable IMO

Ch28
06-24-2020, 07:11 AM
We have everyone muted unless they need to speak so it weeds out a lot of background noise. Just imagine how the actual parents feel having to deal with their kids 24/7 :lol

bcrdukes
06-24-2020, 07:12 AM
I personally don't think it's that big of a deal as we've learned to deal with it. People are going to have kids to take care of, they'll run up to their parents to ask to watch Frozen or get an apple juice, or their cats will walk all over their laptop and lay there, or someone will be banging dishes on counters and what not. We've been tolerant and understanding of everyone's personal situation and circumstances. Pre-COVID, yeah, that shit would have been a fireable offence. :lol Given the circumstances - not a big deal at all.

Hondaracer
06-24-2020, 07:55 AM
My issue is when there is serious, important, discussion going on that was instigated by the individual with the kids, or the person with the kids is running a meeting and is obviously distracted or not taking the discussion seriously as they are juggling their kids in the background

I was in a very important meeting essentially ending the meeting with remarks regarding the whole reason behind the stupid meeting to begin with and the guy who instigated it just kinda replied “oh yea ok good point bla bla” as you could hear him humoring his kids in the background and talking to them

Your kids ain’t my problem. It’s been 4 months like this, figure it out.

bcrdukes
06-24-2020, 08:57 AM
If it's a serious/important meeting, I get it. Individuals need to make the necessary arrangements to remove distractions. Maybe time for you to have a serious discussion with said individual, or recommend him start looking up how to apply for CERB. :D

Great68
06-24-2020, 09:07 AM
Your kids ain’t my problem. It’s been 4 months like this, figure it out.

My kid's daycare is still closed, so my kid is stuck at home with me. Do you think it's possible to wave a magic wand and just come up with a child care solution, especially with all the other parents in the same boat looking to do the same thing? Do you think those parents are actually enjoying their situation right now?

No his kids are not your problem, but a decent human and a decent employer realizes that this pandemic is not over yet and lives are still affected. We're not back to normal.

Hondaracer
06-24-2020, 09:18 AM
My kid's daycare is still closed, so my kid is stuck at home with me. Do you think it's possible to wave a magic wand and just come up with a child care solution, especially with all the other parents in the same boat looking to do the same thing? Do you think those parents are actually enjoying their situation right now?

No his kids are not your problem, but a decent human and a decent employer realizes that this pandemic is not over yet and lives are still affected. We're not back to normal.

You don’t have like a dog kennel or somthing?

:lol

Spoon
06-24-2020, 09:18 AM
Your kids ain’t my problem. It’s been 4 months like this, figure it out.

So how many kids do you have right now? FailFish

Euro7r
06-24-2020, 09:19 AM
My kid's daycare is still closed, so my kid is stuck at home with me. Do you think it's possible to wave a magic wand and just come up with a child care solution, especially with all the other parents in the same boat looking to do the same thing? Do you think those parents are actually enjoying their situation right now?

No his kids are not your problem, but a decent human and a decent employer realizes that this pandemic is not over yet and lives are still affected. We're not back to normal.

Yesterday was having a Teams call with my colleague in IT and her kid running around in background and says bye to me at end of the call (thought it was kinda funny lol). End of the day, as long as the work gets done, who gives a real fuck if there background noise. As long as the noise isn't affecting the purpose of the call, move on with it.

punkwax
06-24-2020, 11:11 AM
You don’t have like a dog kennel or somthing?

:lol

My kids are outside kids when they need to be LUL

quasi
06-24-2020, 11:23 AM
Lol mines 14 and loud AF.

Whenever I had an important call I'd go in his room and warn him, Listen asshole dad has a meeting if I hear you at all I'm going to come in here and rip that playstation out of the wall and you won't see it for a week.

He understands real talk

bcrdukes
06-24-2020, 11:53 AM
Lol mines 14 and loud AF.

Whenever I had an important call I'd go in his room and warn him, Listen asshole dad has a meeting if I hear you at all I'm going to come in here and rip that playstation out of the wall and you won't see it for a week.

He understands real talk

Damn, savage. :lol

sonick
06-24-2020, 12:39 PM
Lol mines 14 and loud AF.

Whenever I had an important call I'd go in his room and warn him, Listen asshole dad has a meeting if I hear you at all I'm going to come in here and rip that playstation out of the wall and you won't see it for a week.

He understands real talk

Lol I originally read this as you calling yourself "asshole dad" and not saying "listen asshole," to your son. Both work I guess :lol

FOREVER
06-24-2020, 12:57 PM
I started eating my lunch during my morning meetings, and taking afternoon naps FAWK

ssjGoku69
06-24-2020, 01:15 PM
that's a slippery slope buddy. soon you're gonna be working a night shift

SkinnyPupp
06-24-2020, 07:23 PM
Lol mines 14 and loud AF.

Whenever I had an important call I'd go in his room and warn him, Listen asshole dad has a meeting if I hear you at all I'm going to come in here and rip that playstation out of the wall and you won't see it for a week.

He understands real talk
TFW you grew up in that kind of environment but still get the joke :badpokerface:

quasi
06-25-2020, 06:46 AM
TFW you grew up in that kind of environment but still get the joke :badpokerface:

Lol, we're pretty sarcastic in my house, wife and kid included. This is actually how we talk to each other, it's all love honestly.

GLOW
06-25-2020, 07:49 AM
maybe you'll cash in if your son will becomes a famous comedian and talks about you and his childhood and does the next "somebody gonna get a hurtin' really bad..." *finger wag*

:lol

CivicBlues
06-25-2020, 08:14 AM
calling it now: quasi gets cancelled in the child abuse witch hunt of 2024. :lol

quasi
06-25-2020, 10:53 AM
calling it now: quasi gets cancelled in the child abuse witch hunt of 2024. :lol

I laughed out loud. I recently put him in boxing, if he sticks with it's either that or 2 years down the road he kicks the shit out of me in my driveway declaring himself king of the house and new rule maker.

GLOW
06-25-2020, 11:25 AM
time to work on wrestling/grappling/juijitsu to be able to take him down :lol

Hondaracer
06-25-2020, 11:27 AM
Nothing like a good ol’ fashion father son domesty

Fafine
06-25-2020, 11:39 AM
Lol straight up take bjj and youll take him easy.

hi-revs
06-25-2020, 05:17 PM
Been vaping like no tmrw while WFH. Gonna be fucked when we gotta go back into the office. Lol

quasi
06-26-2020, 04:23 PM
Been vaping like no tmrw while WFH. Gonna be fucked when we gotta go back into the office. Lol

I had the owner of our company call me one Friday later afternoon when I was already half cut, funny trying to sound as sober as I can well carrying on a conversation.

mikemhg
06-27-2020, 09:03 AM
I had the owner of our company call me one Friday later afternoon when I was already half cut, funny trying to sound as sober as I can well carrying on a conversation.

This LOL.

Can't count how many times I've had an afternoon toke when my work was done, only to get a call I had to pick up and handle :lol

GLOW
06-27-2020, 10:10 AM
as i'm reading your posts i'm picturing this meme
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/010/687/4596295_fbthumbnail.jpg

6793026
06-27-2020, 10:49 AM
who the fook calls at 3 / 4 pm on friday.... ghezzzzz i hate it when bosses calls at that time esp when you know Van gets our shit done and we value our afternoon times esp. Toronto is already done.

hi-revs
06-27-2020, 01:27 PM
I've stopped picking up all incoming calls past 2pm on the regular tgese days. Lol

freesole
07-04-2020, 07:21 PM
Does anyone know how the border will monitor you to make sure that you have quarantined for 14 days (I would be coming up from the US)?

68style
07-04-2020, 08:03 PM
Does anyone know how the border will monitor you to make sure that you have quarantined for 14 days (I would be coming up from the US)?

They take all your info and phone number and RCMP does checks and you get phone calls from a number that if you don't pick up they come do a check right away...

Hope you're not intending to circumvent it though, that's a dick move

freesole
07-04-2020, 08:23 PM
They take all your info and phone number and RCMP does checks and you get phone calls from a number that if you don't pick up they come do a check right away...

Hope you're not intending to circumvent it though, that's a dick move

Thanks, no not at all. It would just be helpful to know how they track (ie. with the app on your phone or physical checks) is all.

Trust me, we live in Seattle and we are in awe as to how stupid people here are about not social distancing. We are not about to put anyone at risk in Vancouver, particularly family.

Hondaracer
07-08-2020, 03:57 PM
anyone gone to look at the guy in "South Port Coquitlam" selling refurb Herman Miller and Steelcase chairs? Says his name is Muhammed in the ad

Ch28
07-08-2020, 04:29 PM
anyone gone to look at the guy in "South Port Coquitlam" selling refurb Herman Miller and Steelcase chairs? Says his name is Muhammed in the ad

He said he needed a few weeks to procure a chair last time I reached out to him (right around the start of COVID) so I don't know if it's any better now.

Ended up getting a Steelcase Think instead of waiting

Euro7r
10-27-2020, 11:20 AM
How many of you guys are still working from home full-time?

sonick
10-27-2020, 12:10 PM
Haha I was just thinking of bumping this thread now that we're getting into fall/winter to discuss ideas on how we're all staying sane with crappy weather and more time indoors.

I have been planning monthly weekend getaways nearby so there's something to look forward to, as well as buying wet and cold weather gear to allow for outdoor activities (hiking, walks etc) even if it's wet or cold.

I'm still wfh full time, but have the option to go into the office, which I try to do once a week.

EuterVanWasser
10-27-2020, 12:22 PM
I'm WFH still. Hate it, but I don't want to go back to the office either.

Completely feel like a slave to the work laptop again after July/August felt sustainable.. I turn it on any time from 7 to 7:30am and start my day. A bigger issue is my staff all sleep in and start their day around 9:30am, then work till 6 or 7pm each night. So as a result, I was on the phone until 6pm last night for work.. The lines between work and family are completely blurred again for me, although I'll admit I only work at like 70% intensity of what I would have before.

One nice habit I've started however is I'm now walking my kid to school each day and bringing the dog with us. It forces me out of the house for 30 minutes each morning otherwise, I literally sit here all day and the dog certainly loves catching up on the neighbourhood gossip daily.

I also played hockey for the first time in a year on the weekend. Yiiiiikes am I out of shape. But, have to do something!

pastarocket
10-27-2020, 12:36 PM
I also still WFH. As a Canadian government employee, I am thankful that the feds are providing some benefits to employees who are working from home.

Federal government employees can be reimbursed up to 500 bucks in office furniture by providing receipts of purchases to their managers. Office furniture such as a high back leather chair and/or a home office desk would qualify under this employee benefits program.

My manager said that "video gaming chairs" don't qualify for this $500 reimbursement because the chair is not work related. -makes sense. It was worth a try though. :lawl:

-bought a $320 dollar leather office chair with lumbar support and adjustable armrests from Staples recently. -still looking for a decent office desk to use up the remaining 180 bucks in benefit reimbursement.

What I realize now is that my neighbourhood can be really noisy in the summer time with noise distractions from people working. For example, one neighbour had contractors replacing his home's roof. -non stop sound of a nail gun all day. Then you have neighbours cutting their lawn.

Then you have a dude driving his ice cream truck around my neighbourhood during the
summer while he plays a corny jingle song in order to attract customers. :lawl:

-hard to filter out that noise if I need top open my room windows during the warm summer months.

EuterVanWasser
10-27-2020, 01:03 PM
@pastarocket - my work allowed me to expense Airpod Pro's to help with WFH under the same type of incentive. The noise cancellation feature was amazing for getting rid of neighbourhood noise, and my kid screaming over xBox in the next room.... Plus with all the virtual meetings via Zoom/WebEx/Teams, wireless instead of corded ear buds are awesome and completely benefit productivity.

quasi
10-27-2020, 01:28 PM
How many of you guys are still working from home full-time?

1 or 2 days a week usually Thursday/Friday. Part of me would like to just work from home full time but I do enjoy the conversation and feeling like I'm part of a team when going in, it's a little different working from home.

underscore
10-27-2020, 01:55 PM
I really need a better chair for WFH, I wish we had office resellers up here like there is down there. It's hard to pay retail when you know a couple hours away they're half the price.

GLOW
10-27-2020, 02:36 PM
still at home. picked up a $200 exec chair from costco. who knows how long it'll last, but beats the wood dining chair i was using for last 6 months :lol

Razor Ramon HG
10-27-2020, 02:59 PM
Still working from home. Been here since March. Using an Ikea Renberget and no issues with comfort or back pain. Tempted to pick up a better chair, but maybe at a later date.

TOS'd
10-27-2020, 03:22 PM
Still WFH as well. Even in the new year I think our office will adopt a sort of come into the office once every couple of weeks sort of thing just to give people an escape from home.

Presto
10-27-2020, 03:25 PM
There's no coffee at the office, due to COVID. I have to go into the office every day, and that's just to grab a backup tape, but I work from home when I can. Most people are working from home, but there are a handful that are still in the office. It's good to see people IRL. My wife works about 5 ft from me, and it's been working out. She turns down the TV if I need to take a call. Can't beat the short commute!

EDIT: any suggestions for posture/comfort for people that like to work on the couch?

bobbinka
10-27-2020, 03:31 PM
EDIT: any suggestions for posture/comfort for people that like to work on the couch?

Don't work on the couch?

Presto
10-27-2020, 03:36 PM
Of course! That is genius! Why didn't I think of that? :\

It's a serious question, and I would like suggestions. The wife insists on using a laptop on the couch. She has a stand, but wants something for better seating comfort.

SkinnyPupp
10-27-2020, 03:44 PM
Honestly "don't work on the couch" is the best advice. If she insists then she has to suffer the consequences. Or buy a new couch that can accommodate proper posture, if one exists

mikemhg
10-27-2020, 03:50 PM
Still WFH, we have no plans of opening the office up until 2021, and even then, it'll be a graduated return.

CivicBlues
10-27-2020, 03:52 PM
EDIT: any suggestions for posture/comfort for people that like to work on the couch?


bought this table.
https://www.palluccifurniture.ca/hatsuko-lift-top-coffee-table/

add mouse, wireless keyboard and you're all set to work from the couch.

Source: been doing it on and off for a year now for a couple hours a day. Back still fine.

TOS'd
10-27-2020, 03:52 PM
What about those side tables that you can pull up to your couch and then you can sit up right on the couch to use it.

https://i.imgur.com/ahgoGoEh.png

Presto
10-27-2020, 03:58 PM
This is non-negotiable. My wife won't give up the couch. So, I just want to equip her the best I can. She's got a surface already. Just need support for the back to promote better posture. My wife works about 3 - 4 hours a day, and exercises for breaks.

Hondaracer
10-27-2020, 04:08 PM
If your couch is firm I suggest getting a lumbar roll. They are cheap on amazon etc. And correct posture and reduce strain. I use one when driving longer distances and it a a life saver

68style
10-27-2020, 04:38 PM
Damn that’s one high maintenance bird, how can she expect someone else to find her things that she finds comfortable or not, especially with that little actual working hours? Tell her to figure it out lol

GS8
10-27-2020, 05:40 PM
MrsHappySilp has a sister?

:troll:

sonick
10-27-2020, 05:58 PM
MrsHappySilp has a sister?

:troll:

:lawl:

SkinnyPupp
10-27-2020, 07:13 PM
MrsHappySilp has a sister?

:troll:
Stop, you got that guy's wife to ban him from coming back, don't do it to another member! LUL

Mikoyan
10-27-2020, 08:47 PM
Still WFH full time. Company extending it through to Q2. Looking like it's likely going to pretty much permanent for the most part. Pre Covid, about 1/3 of staff was remote at home full time anyways. Pandemic just accelerated it.

lowside67
10-28-2020, 07:38 AM
My wife is at Lulu - they officially announced WFH until at least end of Q2/2021 now.

-Mark

KayC
10-28-2020, 09:38 AM
WFH till July 2021. So far, company gave all employees $2720 of "covid pay" and also allowing us to expense up to $780 for any health related purchases, such as buying weights, homework out stuff, etc.

sonick
10-28-2020, 10:11 AM
What are people doing/planning on doing to survive/stay sane during the fall/winter now that there aren't patios, and less outdoor activities?

I have been making a point to schedule at least one long weekend getaway each month to local places (Squamish, Bowen Island, Sunshine Coast, etc.) to keep travelling as well as have something to always look forward to.

Investing in some better rain and warm weather gear so that we can continue to go on day trips, hikes, walks, etc. even in poor weather.

One thing I am struggling with is working out again. Now that cases have spiked again I have not been going to my usual gym and any outdoor workouts I did do at the beginning of the pandemic will likely be harder to do in poor weather.

Any other ideas?

mikemhg
10-28-2020, 10:59 AM
MrsHappySilp has a sister?

:troll:

:fullofwin:

mikemhg
10-28-2020, 11:01 AM
What are people doing/planning on doing to survive/stay sane during the fall/winter now that there aren't patios, and less outdoor activities?

I have been making a point to schedule at least one long weekend getaway each month to local places (Squamish, Bowen Island, Sunshine Coast, etc.) to keep travelling as well as have something to always look forward to.

Investing in some better rain and warm weather gear so that we can continue to go on day trips, hikes, walks, etc. even in poor weather.

One thing I am struggling with is working out again. Now that cases have spiked again I have not been going to my usual gym and any outdoor workouts I did do at the beginning of the pandemic will likely be harder to do in poor weather.

Any other ideas?

We're doing the same in terms of trips, heading to Tofino this weekend until Monday.

Join a gym, left Steve Nash and joined a new gym back in June, have been going 5 days a week since then. It's paramount to break up the afternoon by getting out of the house and hitting the gym. I also suggest bombing out to NV or somewhere local for a little hike, nothing crazy, but getting into nature even if it's raining and cold out definitely helps these early dark evenings.

Once the snow starts falling hard on the mountains, a bomb up to Cypress on a weekday is also great.

bcrdukes
10-28-2020, 11:03 AM
RIP Mr. HappySlip

pastarocket
10-28-2020, 11:07 AM
What are people doing/planning on doing to survive/stay sane during the fall/winter now that there aren't patios, and less outdoor activities?

I have been making a point to schedule at least one long weekend getaway each month to local places (Squamish, Bowen Island, Sunshine Coast, etc.) to keep travelling as well as have something to always look forward to.

Investing in some better rain and warm weather gear so that we can continue to go on day trips, hikes, walks, etc. even in poor weather.

One thing I am struggling with is working out again. Now that cases have spiked again I have not been going to my usual gym and any outdoor workouts I did do at the beginning of the pandemic will likely be harder to do in poor weather.

Any other ideas?

If we have a cold winter this year with heavy snowfall in the Lower Mainland, a great outdoor activity is building a snowman.

Put a facemask on Frosty during this pandemic.
:lawl:

Presto
10-28-2020, 11:29 AM
Damn that’s one high maintenance bird

She is worth it!:fullofwin:

TOS'd
10-28-2020, 11:35 AM
Is there still a pandemic in Vancouver? /s

I see a lot of iNfLuEnCeRs (and people I know of/know personally) on social media dining together, sharing food, hanging out like normal with the only difference is wearing a mask to and from the destination.

Non of that would really fly over here so I guess that's why it's strange to see even after things have gotten a bit worse all around the country. I could also be oblivious to what is going on outside the majority of the time as I'm pretty much at home 6 days of the week and go out once a week for groceries and a hike. I know everyone loves to use the argument that Vancouver is doing better than other places hence why their restrictions are less than that of other places. Bcrdukes, what does it look like outside?

From what I've read here, most of RS is of the same mindset and wouldn't fall into those aforementioned types of people, just curious if anyone else feels the same. That yea you could follow the bare minimum or maybe put a little more effort into reducing the risk to you and others.

Just to be clear, I have no issues with people going to gyms, hikes, etc. It just doesn't seem right that some people are still hanging out/dining with people from multiple households frequently with no signs of social distancing or other precautions. People hosting friends in their cramped 1 bedroom apartments sharing food with each other (like hotpot, wtf?). Whatever happened to those socially distanced park birthday celebrations? I just see normal ones now like nothing has changed. They even just take one picture with all their masks on but then all the other pictures there isn't a mask in sight.

I'll probably get some fails for this post, so I'll just start it off.

CivicBlues
10-28-2020, 12:06 PM
Is there still a pandemic in Vancouver? /s

I see a lot of iNfLuEnCeRs (and people I know of/know personally) on social media dining together, sharing food, hanging out like normal with the only difference is wearing a mask to and from the destination.

Non of that would really fly over here so I guess that's why it's strange to see even after things have gotten a bit worse all around the country. I could also be oblivious to what is going on outside the majority of the time as I'm pretty much at home 6 days of the week and go out once a week for groceries and a hike. I know everyone loves to use the argument that Vancouver is doing better than other places hence why their restrictions are less than that of other places. Bcrdukes, what does it look like outside?

From what I've read here, most of RS is of the same mindset and wouldn't fall into those aforementioned types of people, just curious if anyone else feels the same. That yea you could follow the bare minimum or maybe put a little more effort into reducing the risk to you and others.

Just to be clear, I have no issues with people going to gyms, hikes, etc. It just doesn't seem right that some people are still hanging out/dining with people from multiple households frequently with no signs of social distancing or other precautions. People hosting friends in their cramped 1 bedroom apartments sharing food with each other (like hotpot, wtf?). Whatever happened to those socially distanced park birthday celebrations? I just see normal ones now like nothing has changed. They even just take one picture with all their masks on but then all the other pictures there isn't a mask in sight.

I'll probably get some fails for this post, so I'll just start it off.

Turn off your social media. Better yet, post on each and every one of those pics telling them what you really think and that you'll be unfollowing/unfriending/whatever twitter does because of their behavior. Make it known and shame everyone else who reads it and thinks the same.

This kind of behavior from Influencers and their ilk feeds on attention so the more this catches on the more it'll stop.


That's the hope :badpokerface:

Liquid_o2
10-28-2020, 12:12 PM
We have been back in the office since the start of July. I work in the office 4 days a week and at home on Fridays. It is fine as we all have our own offices - I can close my door and do my thing and social distance. I like having my huge monitor, chair, desk, etc.

But I don't understand why we need to be in the office at all, boomer boss wants to see his employees working I guess. I miss the 20 second commute and lunches on the couch :okay:

The thing that drives me crazy is there is no Covid-19 protocol at all in the office. Masks are encouraged but not mandated. Usually I am the only one wearing a mask.

TOS'd
10-28-2020, 12:14 PM
Turn off your social media. Better yet, post on each and every one of those pics telling them what you really think and that you'll be unfollowing/unfriending/whatever twitter does because of their behavior. Make it known and shame everyone else who reads it and thinks the same.

This kind of behavior from Influencers and their ilk feeds on attention so the more this catches on the more it'll stop.


That's the hope :badpokerface:
You're right, that's the only thing that will work. Going to resign from my full-time job tomorrow morning to pursue this.

GLOW
10-28-2020, 12:25 PM
If your couch is firm I suggest getting a lumbar roll. They are cheap on amazon etc. And correct posture and reduce strain. I use one when driving longer distances and it a a life saver

i was going to suggest something like that and/or a back massager mat that you can put on a chair. support AND massage options :fullofwin:

Great68
10-28-2020, 12:40 PM
I'm back in the office full time this starting this week. There was no pressure from management, I just decided to do it myself. My boss still works from home 2 days a week.

Being at home for the summer was a nice change, but I like my old routine. Besides now that it's fall, running my house furnace just to keep me warm all day would be expensive, heat is free and plentiful at the office :p

Euro7r
10-28-2020, 01:05 PM
I'm back in the office full time this starting this week. There was no pressure from management, I just decided to do it myself. My boss still works from home 2 days a week.

Being at home for the summer was a nice change, but I like my old routine. Besides now that it's fall, running my house furnace just to keep me warm all day would be expensive, heat is free and plentiful at the office :p

^Once you factor in gas/car insurance/commuting time etc etc. I think the heating cost is minimal in comparison lol

Great68
10-28-2020, 01:09 PM
^Once you factor in gas/car insurance/commuting time etc etc. I think the heating cost is minimal in comparison lol

Well my commute is 1.5km on foot.

But I do eat a lot of Cruciferous vegetables (kale, cabbage, broccoli etc) so I make a lot of gas.

CivicBlues
10-28-2020, 01:13 PM
Plus you can claim a part of your heating/hydro costs on a T2200 tax form.

Great68
10-28-2020, 01:36 PM
Plus you can claim a part of your heating/hydro costs on a T2200 tax form.

I'm not sure about that. Working from home was never a condition/requirement of my employment. The office was always open, employees were just given the option if they so choosed, it was never mandatory.

I do get a T2200 for my car allowance, even though I can probably count on one hand how many times I've used my car for work this year. (I can probably count on two hands how many times I've used my car at all this year)

bobbinka
10-28-2020, 02:00 PM
Plus you can claim a part of your heating/hydro costs on a T2200 tax form.

If you get a T2200....

BIC_BAWS
12-23-2020, 11:10 PM
Bumping this thread for anyone who is interested in getting an Autonomous Ai standing desk - don't. DIY assembly required, but I didn't expect needing to drill new holes. Product fitment is pretty crap. Holes don't line up, used my M12 to drill new holes/force it in LOL. The cord covers are pretty loose and cheap feeling. If they were going to cheap out, I would rather them supply the plastic black ones instead of this fake metal shit.

winson604
12-24-2020, 11:23 AM
If you get a T2200....

Didn't they come out with a new process where it doesn't involve a T2200?

Euro7r
12-24-2020, 11:41 AM
Approaching end of the year and 9 months working from work, starting to feel the negativity side. Noticed more and more time where I'm literally glued to my desk and posture not good (even using a good chair). Some fucking reason work becoming busier and busier and work hours longer than usual...

winson604
12-24-2020, 11:59 AM
Approaching end of the year and 9 months working from work, starting to feel the negativity side. Noticed more and more time where I'm literally glued to my desk and posture not good (even using a good chair). Some fucking reason work becoming busier and busier and work hours longer than usual...

Also interesting to see that the amount of work one does goes in either direction. Of course you might do less work because of distractions but I've heard some people do way more work because even in their "off hours" they will just go on the computer and do stuff because it's that convenient. I'm definitely not the ladder lol. I'd say on any given day I can be either to some degree and overall it averages out. I only choose to do 2 days from home though, anymore I can't take it.

EvoFire
12-25-2020, 12:17 AM
Work gave us the week off between Christmas and New Years. Part of the reasoning was half the company was taking it off anyways, the other part was management can feel the tension, and then some more was some people just not taking time off. Just shut everything down except for front line support. But even those aren't seeing much action.

We are confirmed to WFH until at least the summer. Most ppl at work are either last or close to last in line for the vaccine and it doesn't seem likely that we'll be vaccinated by the summer, if not even by end of 2021. Most people are expecting to WFH all of 2021. I asked about families with children as the vaccines aren't approved for under 16, and they also can't confirm that getting the vaccine guarantees you won't be carrying and be contagious. This opened up the conversation that anyone who has kids probably won't head in until the vaccine is universally approved for use.

We were allowed to expense $300 for whatever extra equipment we want for home. Probably ordering a sit stand desk. Wife is happy with her Effydesk and looking to get another one.

6793026
12-26-2020, 08:42 AM
WFM has a few things
1) do set specific time for breakfast / lunch and / dinner. You NEED your time to fuel up.
2) DON'T feel guilty going on a break; we all miss our office banter so don't feel bad when you need to take a 10 min break AWAY from your desk.
3) my laptop does NOT leave my work office. TV is TV, kitchen is kitchen. Shall never bring work all around the house. (maybe when i'm taking a shit over a boring zoom).


Our work has "suggested" 12-12:45 a no work meeting regiment. Go eat, go for a walk, go do SOMETHING instead of work. It's not bad, we got people msg each other and some are jumping on their peloton etc.

Euro7r
03-19-2021, 04:56 PM
Bumping this WFH. I picked up a set of Bowflex 552 dumbbells since I've been assigned permanent working from home now. It arrived at my home today and I noticed on the box mention P65 potential chemicals causing cancer/birth defects etc. label on the box. I know with any plastic, going to be chemicals used to produce the item that may or may not be harmful but I started googling this since I got a bit OCD. My understanding is unless you chew or eat the plastic on the dumbbell, I don't see how touching the dumbbell would transfer chemicals into your body. I've never seen such a label on workout equipment I've bought in the past. Now I'm debating to sell the Bowflex and get something not made of plastic...

SkinnyPupp
03-19-2021, 05:06 PM
Bumping this WFH. I picked up a set of Bowflex 552 dumbbells since I've been assigned permanent working from home now. It arrived at my home today and I noticed on the box mention P65 potential chemicals causing cancer/birth defects etc. label on the box. I know with any plastic, going to be chemicals used to produce the item that may or may not be harmful but I started googling this since I got a bit OCD. My understanding is unless you chew or eat the plastic on the dumbbell, I don't see how touching the dumbbell would transfer chemicals into your body. I've never seen such a label on workout equipment I've bought in the past. Now I'm debating to sell the Bowflex and get something not made of plastic...
That's just to comply with overzealous California guidelines. It'll be fine

underscore
03-19-2021, 08:03 PM
If you're really worried just wash your hands after using them, but yeah Cali has that sticker on everything.

Hakkaboy
03-19-2021, 08:10 PM
I bought a Master padlock and it came with that warning as well lol

Qmx323
03-20-2021, 10:34 AM
^ Lawn chairs for me....

Euro7r
05-31-2021, 04:28 PM
Have you guys actually taken some vacation time for a break or rest during Covid? I've only taken 4 days off since Covid started and it's been fucking tiring (also doesn't help when I work for a shitty ass company that doesn't value work life balance). None of the senior staffs I work with have taken a single day, so it makes no fucking sense. People just have stacks of vacation days saved up now. The work is so busy, it's so hard to even squeeze in some consecutive days off.

Ch28
05-31-2021, 08:58 PM
I took a week off so far and it was amazing for my mental health and stress management levels. Having a week off from not having to stress over how much shit is waiting in my inbox the next day was great.

If any of you guys haven’t taken vacation then I seriously urge you to do so. being able to unplug for a week was worth it.

Ulic Qel-Droma
06-01-2021, 01:19 AM
I feel VERY SORRY for anyone who hasn't had a chance during COVID to really take some time off, or slack off working at home or something like that, for a abnormal prolonged period of time (2-4+ months). and really experience what life was like before work/the hustle/rat race... and really have the time to sleep that extra 1-2 hours, have time to introspect and realise the things they really wanna do in life.

That was one of the few silver linings of COVID.

I hope everyone comes outta this more mature and happy, knowing fully more who they are, and what they want to do.

sonick
06-01-2021, 05:18 AM
Take your damned vacations.

As a manager it annoys me to see people complaining about burnout only to see they barely used their vacation days. Do I need to remind people to eat as well?

I can see how it can be difficult if a company culturally avoids this with nobody else taking vacation days, but ultimately the vacation days are yours to use they can't stop you from using them.

CivicBlues
06-01-2021, 07:00 AM
Took 2 weeks off in Sept 2020 to drive around BC/Alberta before the 2nd wave

Took another 2 weeks off in December 2020 did nothing but sit on my ass

Taking another week over Canada Day and another 2 weeks in October. Even after that I still have about 5 weeks vacation banked.

Looking forward to these are the only thing that gets me through the work day.:okay:

Hondaracer
06-01-2021, 07:06 AM
I get one regular weekend a month and two 5 day weekends, plenty of time to relax and as such I think it’s a big reason why my mental health hasn’t suffered. Although I’m not really a person who has big swings either.

If you work in a place that you get 3-4 weeks vacation but you feel like there’s pressure not to take it then maybe you’re working in the wrong place. That’s kinda what my last company was like basically encouraged to take time off in between projects etc. Which is BS

I’ve leveraged my longer weekends by having them fall on stats and then taking an extra day here and there or a personal day. I’ve got 19 days off in august and like 6 6 day weekend through the summer :woot2:

Even if you’re sitting on your ass at home if gives you some time to relax catch up on things, take them.

68style
06-01-2021, 07:37 AM
We can't hold onto more than 7 weeks on a calendar changeover, anything above that gets paid out... but I've been around long enough that I get 5 weeks annually.

I been holding 7 and adding 5 for a total of 12 weeks on calendar changeover for 2 years now, was taking off every Monday for months last year just to burn 5........ but I have a reason, I built up to 12 because I had planned to take 3 months off to do a walking/camping trip in another country and figured hey why not get paid the entire time I'm gone?... was slowly buying gear and planning for it... but COVID killed all that... pretty funny because my managers are all over my ass all the time to take time but I didn't really want to tell them why I kept stacking it up :p

mikemhg
06-01-2021, 11:53 AM
Take your damn vacation.

I took 2 weeks off this month. Visited Tofino and Jordan River for a week, then headed to Osoyoos/Twin Lakes for another week.

Your paid vacation time. Use it.

Great68
06-01-2021, 12:16 PM
^ Last I checked the restrictions to stay within your health region hasn't been lifted....










J/K I don't really care.

mikemhg
06-01-2021, 05:01 PM
^ Last I checked the restrictions to stay within your health region hasn't been lifted....










J/K I don't really care.

I'm...essential... :smug:

nns
06-01-2021, 06:02 PM
Take your damned vacations.

As a manager it annoys me to see people complaining about burnout only to see they barely used their vacation days. Do I need to remind people to eat as well?

I can see how it can be difficult if a company culturally avoids this with nobody else taking vacation days, but ultimately the vacation days are yours to use they can't stop you from using them.

It's not always that simple to just take time off.

My job is a lot of project work, meaning there's a lot of context and nuances that I am intimately familiar with. We are so familiar with the workings of it all that we become invested it in wholeheartedly. It's like a sense of accountability in the work.

While I can find someone to cover me when I'm away, it's not like I don't come back from vacation with a pile of work waiting for me. It also means that whoever covers me, I have to basically brain dump a lot of info onto them. It doesn't sound like it, but it's actually really tedious to compile all that info, then try to relay it to the person covering me. Lastly, I have to actually "let go" of that mental investment that I have in the project.

When I come back, I have to reacclimate to what I missed while I'm away. Depending on the amount of time I take off and what I was up to while I was away, I've actually forgotten how to do parts of my job and have to retrain myself. Sounds crazy, right? We take time off to disconnect from work and enjoy ourselves, so much so that we forget how to do parts of our job when we're back. When I return, I often have to work harder to catch up. Reacclimating really sucks.

My colleagues and I often rant about how arduous it feels to take time off. When we're off it's like a fantasy, life feels so great. But when we return, it's a harsh reality check. Life no longer feels great. We end up regretting taking time off because of that polarizing feeling. I also feel resentful when I return that the job isn't more forgiving to me when I leave for a while. So given all that I've said, now you can understand why some people cannot easily decide to take time off from work.

It has nothing to do with whose vacation days it is. I'm given more time off than I can find time and energy to spend.

Hondaracer
06-01-2021, 07:02 PM
Sounds like kinda a shit work arrangement if you don’t have a stake in the company..

sonick
06-01-2021, 07:10 PM
It's not always that simple to just take time off.

My job is a lot of project work, meaning there's a lot of context and nuances that I am intimately familiar with. We are so familiar with the workings of it all that we become invested it in wholeheartedly. It's like a sense of accountability in the work.

While I can find someone to cover me when I'm away, it's not like I don't come back from vacation with a pile of work waiting for me. It also means that whoever covers me, I have to basically brain dump a lot of info onto them. It doesn't sound like it, but it's actually really tedious to compile all that info, then try to relay it to the person covering me. Lastly, I have to actually "let go" of that mental investment that I have in the project.

When I come back, I have to reacclimate to what I missed while I'm away. Depending on the amount of time I take off and what I was up to while I was away, I've actually forgotten how to do parts of my job and have to retrain myself. Sounds crazy, right? We take time off to disconnect from work and enjoy ourselves, so much so that we forget how to do parts of our job when we're back. When I return, I often have to work harder to catch up. Reacclimating really sucks.

My colleagues and I often rant about how arduous it feels to take time off. When we're off it's like a fantasy, life feels so great. But when we return, it's a harsh reality check. Life no longer feels great. We end up regretting taking time off because of that polarizing feeling. I also feel resentful when I return that the job isn't more forgiving to me when I leave for a while. So given all that I've said, now you can understand why some people cannot easily decide to take time off from work.

It has nothing to do with whose vacation days it is. I'm given more time off than I can find time and energy to spend.

Believe me i get it, i work at a creative service agency/consultancy for Fortune 50 enterprise organizations, it's the same here. But as a manager i set the expectation that we are all in support of each other, and that if one person takes vacation one week and has the team support, its expected they return the favour when others go on vacation.

This type of work is intense and stressful, its up to management to set the culture to allow that. Even though I am no longer client facing, i will readily jump in to support if somebody were to go on vacation or mental health leave.

Also even in house it's not like work stops and you are not a burden to your co-workers either or you're not coming back to a full inbox. Somebody's gotta do the work.

And if you are able to fully leave without anybody missing your presence, then how much of a contributor are you really to the company?

Great68
06-02-2021, 01:31 PM
I work in project work.
I've just learned to embrace the full inbox. Maybe it's just me getting crusty but as far as I'm concerned it's management's responsibility to ensure shit doesn't go sideways while I'm on vacation, not mine. I can't predict or account for every single issue that may show up. People taking vacations should not be some sort of surprise.

I've also learned to stop putting phrases like "If you need urgent assistance contact person X in my absence" because customers think everything surrounding them is urgent and that contact person will get absolutely bombarded when 95% of things could simply wait a week with no issues.

I've also made the mistake long ago when I was younger and more eager of reading, answering emails, sometimes going even as far as to spend a vacation day working (without getting it back). Now, fuck that. That sort of thing has absolutely ruined vacations for me, put my mind in a sour mood many times when it's actually supposed to be resting. It helps that I take vacations like fishing and camping where there is no cell service, so they have no choice but to figure it out without me.

underscore
06-02-2021, 02:12 PM
And if you are able to fully leave without anybody missing your presence, then how much of a contributor are you really to the company?

I'd counter that with: if your missing presence is that noticeable, how poorly managed is your company? If someones planned vacation creates that much of a mess, what's gonna happen when someone suddenly quits or dies?

Liquid_o2
06-02-2021, 02:19 PM
I feel VERY SORRY for anyone who hasn't had a chance during COVID to really take some time off, or slack off working at home or something like that, for a abnormal prolonged period of time (2-4+ months). and really experience what life was like before work/the hustle/rat race... and really have the time to sleep that extra 1-2 hours, have time to introspect and realise the things they really wanna do in life.

That was one of the few silver linings of COVID.

I hope everyone comes outta this more mature and happy, knowing fully more who they are, and what they want to do.

I had a lot of time for introspection and thought, especially in 2021. I feel the opposite though - unsure of my next steps in my career and what I want to do in my industry going forward. Still trying to figure it out.

I took a week off last October and another week off during Christmas. A few days tacked onto weekends so far in 2021. I don't feel rested and recharged as things start to open though. I feel burned out, but it may be due to the fact that aside from four months last year (March to July), I have been in the office and things have never really slowed down. I work in consulting so you are either stressed if you have too much work, or stressed if you don't have enough coming in.

AzNightmare
06-02-2021, 04:28 PM
It's annoying when I take time off, then come back and find out the guy that worked on my project fked it up and then I had to spend the next week fixing it. This guy is supposed to be more senior than me, lol.

Unless you're doing some kind of work that isn't project based, it's hard to come back with an empty plate. Often times, you just have 500 emails in your inbox to go through when you finally return.