[donk.]

How do i get the best deal

By not asking for a golf R

[dark0821]

How do i get the best deal

To be honest, I would say

1) By showing commitment. One of the first "few questions" a sales will ask you is "Will you be buying today if the car and payments all align?" Depending on "yes, I do plan to leave with a new car" VS "no, I am still info gathering, gonna still shop around" will yield different results 100%

2) Being flexible, consider the current inventory levels at all dealerships. Having the specific car in the specific trim in the specific color will most likely not happen. There is no such thing as "a perfect car for the perfect price". Dealers are always motivated to move units, so by willing to compromise on the things that you can compromise on, and accept certain realities, smoother transactions leads to better results in my opinion.

3) Being honest, know your budget and stick to it. I already had experience where people tell me they have a $500/mth budget, but wanted to finance a $60,000 car on our longest term (84 month) with 0 down. I will tell them that is $42,000 all in (500 X 84), that includes all fees, taxes and interests etc over a 7 year term. The car they should be looking at should be low to mid 30's before fees and they get offended. I would like to tell them the car they want doesnt existing based on the budget they have. I "cant" work on a good deal if you are already too far apart to begin with.

4) Last and most important point, find Dark0821 @ OpenRoad Hyundai lool, i gib yo best price

[TOS'd]

Did anyone buy that Ioniq 5 slot? :hotbaby:

[Badhobz]

anyone else surprised you can make north of 1k on a used car? how inflated are car prices right now~!!!!

[68style]

Not really, for dealers the game is rigged because book value is artificially low and then they sell at market value after gouging you on your trade-in (with the tax reduction being their main pushing point).

For private that’s a different story, it’s hard to find a deal or jump on it before anyone else but there’s the odd gem pops up here and there and if you throw in the potential of a USA sale there’s definitely possibilities. Americans will pay a lot more for cars than Canadians will.

Ex: I sold a car to an American for $9500usd in a week of trying after getting an inbox full of hate mail trying to sell it in Vancouver at $10,500cdn.

[donk.]

anyone else surprised you can make north of 1k on a used car? how inflated are car prices right now~!!!!

You should see how much sportscars are flipped for :notbad:

[trollface]

So how does pre-ordering a car work? Every dealer has told me 9 months which is fine, but no where on the sheet does it say the MSRP. It's just a shitty PDF with my name and credit card info. So I'm guessing they're just going to bone me when it shows up.

[68style]

You can request it, depends if they have pricing info for the car or not.. and when they do they should update it with a build sheet.

A friend of mine when he pre-ordered his 22 BRZ he actually got them to write in that the car would be sold at MSRP on the sheet after pricing was announced...

I have a pre-order in of my own and it was before pricing was available... but after pricing came out they did up a proper sheet for me when I asked for it.

[trollface]

They laughed at me when i wanted to pre-order one MSRP.

[radeonboy]

^what are you trying to pre-order? With some brands you'll have to shop around to find a dealer that will sell at MSRP.

[Badhobz]

hes trying to get that golf R for MSRP, but because hes trollface, he probably trolled them

[trollface]

Correct, it did not go well.

[cafe22]

any info on the inventory for Ioniq 5 Ultimate trims?

[tofu1413]

^ Hey guys, just wanted to let you know that I did sell my first car yesterday.

Didn't want to make it official until after the client clears financing, which they did today! Car is being delivered tomorrow @ 11am.

Honestly, the car sold it self. It was a niche car for sure, a top trim 2020 Genesis G70 3.3T Twin Turbo V6 with very minor bolt-ons, K&N short ram intake and downpipe with an aftermarket BOV. (all stock parts were in a big cardboard box inside the trunk)

To most buyers, the car is probably a tad loud, so it took alot of "luxury" out of the car (all those sound sound deadening + acoustically laminated glass) haha.

All I did was told the buyer that when G70 came on the market in 2019, it won Motor Trend car of the year, beating out its german rivals.

The car was test driven on Wednesday, and it was actually the 1st car I took to the "desking payment" stage, when I could show customer what their potential payments are going to be.

The guy needed to secure some funds and told me that he will let me know on Friday. 30min before we closed on Friday, he came in to pay the deposit and applied for financing (yea, financing and I stayed a little bit later past closed to submit the info to the banks).

Unfortunately I couldn't keep the momentum rolling, so nothing happened today, but at least all 6 guests that I've talked to today has all reached the desking stage. So they all walked away knowing what their payments will be if they went ahead.

I am still super newb and defn can't close for shiz. Everytime after the guests leaves, I will talk to the sales manager, and they would be super helpful to let me know what I couldve done to secure deposit. And I would be like "OH YEA! .... faaaacccckkk Why didnt I think of that, or Why didn't I say that?!" That would have totally changed the situation and maybe turned the hesistation to a commitment.

Welp...

It is exciting now, since I can see so much progress since I started, I was finally allowed to approach guest about a week ago.


Good Job.

Keep the ball rolling.

[GLOW]

^ Hey guys, just wanted to let you know that I did sell my first car yesterday.

Didn't want to make it official until after the client clears financing, which they did today! Car is being delivered tomorrow @ 11am.

Honestly, the car sold it self. It was a niche car for sure, a top trim 2020 Genesis G70 3.3T Twin Turbo V6 with very minor bolt-ons, K&N short ram intake and downpipe with an aftermarket BOV. (all stock parts were in a big cardboard box inside the trunk)

To most buyers, the car is probably a tad loud, so it took alot of "luxury" out of the car (all those sound sound deadening + acoustically laminated glass) haha.

All I did was told the buyer that when G70 came on the market in 2019, it won Motor Trend car of the year, beating out its german rivals.

The car was test driven on Wednesday, and it was actually the 1st car I took to the "desking payment" stage, when I could show customer what their potential payments are going to be.

The guy needed to secure some funds and told me that he will let me know on Friday. 30min before we closed on Friday, he came in to pay the deposit and applied for financing (yea, financing and I stayed a little bit later past closed to submit the info to the banks).

Unfortunately I couldn't keep the momentum rolling, so nothing happened today, but at least all 6 guests that I've talked to today has all reached the desking stage. So they all walked away knowing what their payments will be if they went ahead.

I am still super newb and defn can't close for shiz. Everytime after the guests leaves, I will talk to the sales manager, and they would be super helpful to let me know what I couldve done to secure deposit. And I would be like "OH YEA! .... faaaacccckkk Why didnt I think of that, or Why didn't I say that?!" That would have totally changed the situation and maybe turned the hesistation to a commitment.

Welp...

It is exciting now, since I can see so much progress since I started, I was finally allowed to approach guest about a week ago.

congrats!!!...so when you make the sale, does the floor manager give you a cigar or something as a victory dance, or is that movie type stuff like from independence day? :lol

[tofu1413]

congrats!!!...so when you make the sale, does the floor manager give you a cigar or something as a victory dance, or is that movie type stuff like from independence day? :lol

usually first sale is cutting the tie.

[trollface]

You owe me a new tie.

[dark0821]

Hey guys, just had my first full month of sales.

Ranked 2nd in terms of total deals closed
Ranked 2nd in terms of total vehicles delivered

Did wanted to pat myself on the back a little bit =) Since I don't get any phone/internet leads at all. It's all walk-in + my own ads for now.

To summarize, it feels like a lot of it came down to luck.

Now lets hope that I can do better in November!

Cheers

[trollface]

Luck favors those that work hard.

[Fafine]

Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.

[Badhobz]

How’s your family dealing with your odd hours of work ? Aren’t most of these sales done on Friday Saturday sundays ?

[mikemhg]

Hey guys, just had my first full month of sales.

Ranked 2nd in terms of total deals closed
Ranked 2nd in terms of total vehicles delivered

Did wanted to pat myself on the back a little bit =) Since I don't get any phone/internet leads at all. It's all walk-in + my own ads for now.

To summarize, it feels like a lot of it came down to luck.

Now lets hope that I can do better in November!

Cheers

It can't be just luck, give yourself some props.

You changed your career that you were comfortable and tenured in to try something new, lots of people on here warned you not to as well.

That takes big balls, not just luck. Give yourself some credit.

[trollface]

Let me see those balls

[68style]

Hey dark0821, you can PM me if you like, but what's the 2023 G70 3.3T Sport inventory like? I seen when you build one on the website it asks for a $1k deposit to secure your build... but I am interested in the car. Do you have any for test drive?

[Badhobz]

Go buy an LC Chris !!!! We can go touring!? Together ?!:gay::gay:

You know you want it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85vhQHDogiU

[68style]

I do want a LC500 ideally but the price is tooooo high

[dark0821]

Hey dark0821, you can PM me if you like, but what's the 2023 G70 3.3T Sport inventory like? I seen when you build one on the website it asks for a $1k deposit to secure your build... but I am interested in the car. Do you have any for test drive?

Sadly I don't know too much about Genesis, we actually have a separate sales team dedicated to Genesis

I will find out tomorrow and let you know, but it won't be pretty for sure.

Our showroom is filled with Ex-demo units with 6,000-18,000 KM already on the 2022/2023 models. That is all the "inventory" we got in terms of "new cars" on both the Genesis and Hyundai side.

[bcrdukes]

I do want a LC500 ideally but the price is tooooo high

YOLO :concentrate:

[westopher]

I do want a LC500 ideally but the price is tooooo high
Let Badhobz take the depreciation hit and buy him out in a few years like the Mas.:alone:

[Badhobz]

i dont know where all the LC's went but there's none on craigslist right now.
Some dude on the LC forums on clublexus said he just ordered one from openroad lexus richmond and delivery date will probably be next year around the same time.

my dealer buddy recently just saw this one come in for service. This fob owner apparently just took off to china and left this glorious INSPIRATION edition (white seats) coupe sit in his apartment garage. The battery was dead and mr fob jump started it backwards, so it fried all the electronics and was in the shop for weeks.

https://i.postimg.cc/nVTT59x6/e317877d-fc1e-4bc2-9370-aabe18c64e98.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/sDXKRfD1/fab0ddaa-4322-4647-9126-f7685ee5fdfd.jpg

if it ever comes up ill post it on good buys.

Let Badhobz take the depreciation hit and buy him out in a few years like the Mas.:alone:
Yes that Pilot guy who bought my Maz stole it basically. 44,000kms on that beauty and dealer maintained..... i still miss it. Dont miss the 15k services but still miss it. I see it occasionally driving up and down Granville.

[tofu1413]

I've seen that one on the street.

Very Banana color combo.

[radeonboy]

The same fob guy had it listed for $125k this summer IIRC, and here it was at the dealer back in June:
https://i.imgur.com/gTNzxsY.jpg

There's a second '19 Inspiration series model around town.

[Badhobz]

yes, the sales manager of openroad lexus richmond has it. Same exact color combo. I asked him if he wanted to sell it before, but he thought i was joking so we never finalized.

[radeonboy]

The convertible's cooler anyway :)

I do want a LC500 ideally but the price is tooooo high

Would you consider a GSF?
https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/cto/d/surrey-east-lexus-gsf/7537029523.html

[Badhobz]

^thats really nice... but also really expensive. at that price, your 6-7k short of a LC500 2018. Although different missions and experiences.

[Gerbs]

Started looking into the LC500's too, I want one in the future, seems like buying new and waiting a year is the play vs the used market. Maybe a 2023/24 refresh is incoming?

[Badhobz]

sorry for derailing this thread Dark

^there's rumors that 2023 will be the last year they make the LC500 Gerbs. Its a loss leader for Toyota and they've only sold like under 2000 units globally since 2018. They are losing money on every one they sell as they cant even recoup the development costs. They axed the F variant of the LC because of such lackluster sales already so im pretty sure the end is neigh for the LC.

[Gerbs]

The days of used one's for $80 - 90K or gone haha, all I see are $120 - 170K :pokerface:

[tofu1413]

what a shame.

the LC500's feels like its the last of the "honest" lexuses... wicked NA V8 and superb build quality. It doesn't have the nicest or latest tech, but it always felt like it was just one very well made coupe (with aston martin looks)

Will be quite sad to see them go away...

[supafamous]

sorry for derailing this thread Dark

^there's rumors that 2023 will be the last year they make the LC500 Gerbs. Its a loss leader for Toyota and they've only sold like under 2000 units globally since 2018. They are losing money on every one they sell as they cant even recoup the development costs. They axed the F variant of the LC because of such lackluster sales already so im pretty sure the end is neigh for the LC.

TIL: Lexus customers only like ugly Lexuses and won't buy the beautiful ones.

[Badhobz]

i think lexus owners are all cheap ass retards who actually wants a german car but dont wanna pay for its unreliability and maintenance all the while pretending that the car they bought is exactly what they need.....

my whole family drives lexusesseses.

[whitev70r]

May I attempt to derail this topic of Lexus back to topic of thread.

So dark8021 ... what was the most difficult thing about changing to car sales. As I remember the story, you were in sales in another industry, was it just a simple change of product? I recall there is a licensing exam with the Province, was that difficult to study and pass?

[tofu1413]

i think lexus owners are all cheap ass retards who actually wants a german car but dont wanna pay for its unreliability and maintenance all the while pretending that the car they bought is exactly what they need.....

my whole family drives lexusesseses.

that sounded exactly like my dad... :pokerface:

[trollface]

There is something to be said about a car that doesn't terrify you every time you turn the key. The most trill I had was turning the key on a Z4.

Shits like russian roulette.

[dark0821]

May I attempt to derail this topic of Lexus back to topic of thread.

So dark8021 ... what was the most difficult thing about changing to car sales. As I remember the story, you were in sales in another industry, was it just a simple change of product? I recall there is a licensing exam with the Province, was that difficult to study and pass?

In terms of mentality - the most challenging part is showing up to work not knowing if you are making money today.

In terms of job difficulty - I would say car sales actually suites me more compared to selling signs. But the 2 jobs are actually quite different. The last job was mostly business to business with only a handful of retail customers, while as this one is 100% retail. The only compliment that I received while at the dealership related to my last job is that people say I write very good emails LOL.

Having said that, I like chit-chatting in general, especially about cars (even mundane cars like the Elantra). So I found this job easy as I felt like I could be myself a bit more while maintaing some resemblence of being professional.

This part could be completely wrong = Regardless of closing the deal or not, the general sense I get is that no client was turned off by "my sale style". Maybe they are just being super polite, regardless of turning me down in person or over text/email. They always complimented my service, and found the process "a pleasent surprise".

Yes - there is a car sales licensing exam - it is dead easy, but a good tool to let you know what the legalities and specific terms of the car sales business is. The test is an open book multi-choice test, I would say easier than the knowledge test for your driver license since it is open book.

I am super thankful of everyone here, and the ones that reached out to me personally! And something stuck with me after I accepted the job offer but before I started...

I am in the business of helping my clients find their next car, not in the business of selling cars. It is this mentality that I carry everytime I approach a client.

[tofu1413]

You’re on the road to doing great things in this business with that mindset.

You doing good son.

[BaoTurbo]

You’re on the road to doing great things in this business with that mindset.

You doing good son.

Wise words.

Nevertheless he hasn't been burned yet by customers, but that will come in time, we all go through it

I still remember my rookie days when the customer said they'll come back and buy the car; just want to grab a coffee with the wife up the street. They never came back and I was just waiting by the door with my cellphone in hand. :okay:

[hud 91gt]

^ That’s getting burned? Sounds like they just wanted a quick way out without the salesman hounding them.

[trollface]

Here is a question for you.

How do you feel about customers buying cars they can't afford or writing a horrendous deal that will pad your pockets? I'm sure sales managers are breathing down your neck. Seems like all sales people eventually fall into this bucket.

How do you think you will justify to yourself that you're doing the right thing?

My buddy works finance at Honda and the deals he sees come across the table...60k accords and neg equity up the wazoo. All the sales guys tell themselves if they didn't write the deal, someone else across the street would have and it's not their job to be their mom.

What do you think? No right or wrong answer.

[Badhobz]

It’s supply and demand. Emotions isn’t part of this and least of all the poor sales guys who don’t dictate the market situation.

If you’re seriously poor but need a ride there are still a ton of es350 that are under 10-12k and completely usable for another 5-10 years. Most of these buyers who are willing to pay more are just splurging because they can, and refuse to wait it out. I should replace my 2010 ES but I’m going to wait it out

[trollface]

Naw, I mean in general, not because of Covid.

Cars loans and keeping up with the Jones' have been screwing the avg person since the Model T.

[whitev70r]

^ not in sales so I can't answer trollface's question from a practitioner's point of view but in the situation that you posed - anywhere, any sector, you cannot 'judge' someone. So to hint that maybe this is above your pay scale and maybe you should get a Corolla instead of a Lexus and not put yourself in a financial hole for 5 years ... well, you get the picture. You can't be the person's parents. You do the best that you can and give him/her all the information, specs and if customer decide to pull the trigger ... so be it.

As for setting customer up for a bad long lease high interest deal ... well, isn't that the finance department person's responsibility?

[jcmaz]

Here is a question for you.

How do you feel about customers buying cars they can't afford or writing a horrendous deal that will pad your pockets? I'm sure sales managers are breathing down your neck. Seems like all sales people eventually fall into this bucket.

How do you think you will justify to yourself that you're doing the right thing?

My buddy works finance at Honda and the deals he sees come across the table...60k accords and neg equity up the wazoo. All the sales guys tell themselves if they didn't write the deal, someone else across the street would have and it's not their job to be their mom.

What do you think? No right or wrong answer.

The PA's just construct the deal and it is up to the customer to pull the trigger to purchase the vehicle. At the end of the day, the PA found a right vehicle for their client and the client was OK with the numbers.

You have no idea how dumb some clients can be. I've seen them try to upgrade from a financed 2020 RVR (with huge amounts of negative equity) into a new RAV4. Or there was this other guy who decided to save a couple bucks and bought a pos Kia Sorrento over a Toyota Highlander.

At the end of the day, they approved of the purchase and decided to get themselves into a bad financial spot. I tried to help them but they didn't listen.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Here is a question for you.

How do you feel about customers buying cars they can't afford or writing a horrendous deal that will pad your pockets? I'm sure sales managers are breathing down your neck. Seems like all sales people eventually fall into this bucket.

How do you think you will justify to yourself that you're doing the right thing?

My buddy works finance at Honda and the deals he sees come across the table...60k accords and neg equity up the wazoo. All the sales guys tell themselves if they didn't write the deal, someone else across the street would have and it's not their job to be their mom.

What do you think? No right or wrong answer.

You can say this about almost anything and everything in life. Its a dog eat dog world out there. If they dont wanna buy a car they cant afford, or get an horrendous deal they dont have to. Its up to them to do there homework or figure out there own finances. It blows my mind that alot of people out there seemed to have failed Math 8

[68style]

Would you consider a GSF?
https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/cto/d/surrey-east-lexus-gsf/7537029523.html

That’s beautiful!! I’m not entirely sure I’d the GS-F is the same as the regular model G but I got super turned off how the transmission tunnel bulged out into the area of the drivers gas pedal foot… was super uncomfortable for me when I sat in one.

[trollface]

You can say this about almost anything and everything in life. Its a dog eat dog world out there. If they dont wanna buy a car they cant afford, or get an horrendous deal they dont have to. Its up to them to do there homework or figure out there own finances. It blows my mind that alot of people out there seemed to have failed Math 8

Which is an interesting thing to think about. Highschool math 12 won't teach you anything about what an APR is. They taught us how to write a chque...which I've done like twice in my life.

Most of what we're taught in HS is pretty useless in everyday life.

[radeonboy]

That’s beautiful!! I’m not entirely sure I’d the GS-F is the same as the regular model G but I got super turned off how the transmission tunnel bulged out into the area of the drivers gas pedal foot… was super uncomfortable for me when I sat in one.

Are you referring to this hump?
https://blog.consumerguide.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/08/Screen-shot-2015-08-20-at-5.05.10-PM1.png

Think that's the AWD hump which doesn't look present in the GSF based on the carpet shape:
https://blog.consumerguide.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/08/Screen-Shot-2017-08-08-at-9.30.06-AM-1024x384.png

It's still no LC, but it's an interesting alternative with the same motor.

Going slightly back on topic - has a waitlist formed for the upcoming Ioniq 5 N?

[dark0821]

Here is a question for you.

How do you feel about customers buying cars they can't afford or writing a horrendous deal that will pad your pockets? I'm sure sales managers are breathing down your neck. Seems like all sales people eventually fall into this bucket.

How do you think you will justify to yourself that you're doing the right thing?

My buddy works finance at Honda and the deals he sees come across the table...60k accords and neg equity up the wazoo. All the sales guys tell themselves if they didn't write the deal, someone else across the street would have and it's not their job to be their mom.

What do you think? No right or wrong answer.

Honestly.. it's my pay cheque, I am only there to present the facts and not mislead or hide anything.

My job stops once the client has the ability to make an informed decision.

Yes, I had a client who traded in a 2018 Kia @ 0% financing for a 2012 CLA @ 8.99% with financing interest amounting to over $10K

As long as the client is aware, I am okay with them going thru with the deal.

[dark0821]

Are you referring to this hump?


Going slightly back on topic - has a waitlist formed for the upcoming Ioniq 5 N?

Cant take your money yet, and dealership have no official list.

But a few people on RS have reached out to me, so I have like what... a 5 person waitlist on my own Google Spread Sheet? LOL

[tofu1413]

Which is an interesting thing to think about. Highschool math 12 won't teach you anything about what an APR is. They taught us how to write a chque...which I've done like twice in my life.

Most of what we're taught in HS is pretty useless in everyday life.

Thats one thing and the other they should've taught us is how to file our own damn taxes. :lawl:

[Traum]

Thats one thing and the other they should've taught us is how to file our own damn taxes. :lawl:
They didn't show you in Consumer Ed 12 back then?

Mind you, what CE12 showed up back then was extremely simple -- basically just plug your T4 numbers in. I think investment income was limited to bank interests / T5, and maybe also dividends. But again, it was mostly get your T-slips from whoever it was, and plug it into the right box on the tax filing form.

[bcrdukes]

What is Consumer Ed 12? I don't recall such a course to have existed when I was in high school. Or maybe my high school was too poor.

[tofu1413]

They didn't show you in Consumer Ed 12 back then?

Mind you, what CE12 showed up back then was extremely simple -- basically just plug your T4 numbers in. I think investment income was limited to bank interests / T5, and maybe also dividends. But again, it was mostly get your T-slips from whoever it was, and plug it into the right box on the tax filing form.

nope. wasn't offered such course in HS :badpokerface:

[Dbone]

17 year old me would not have paid attention in a class on how to pay my taxes.

[trollface]

What is Consumer Ed 12? I don't recall such a course to have existed when I was in high school. Or maybe my high school was too poor.

Wtf? Did you go to Harvard or something? They didn't teach us shit.

I've never walked into Costco and Hotdogs were X2+y1=3.

Useless math.

[EvoFire]

Wtf? Did you go to Harvard or something? They didn't teach us shit.

I've never walked into Costco and Hotdogs were X2+y1=3.

Useless math.

I'm seeing lots of math problems showing up at the local grocery store though.

Guy was pushing a cart loaded with milk the other day.

Just waiting for the one where if you pushed a cart with x number of milk, each milk weighing y. The cart traveled z meters, how many cartons of milk is in it?

[underscore]

We briefly covered taxes, but being highschool kids with maybe one job, no real income or expenses and no dependents none of the complicated stuff applied to us so I definitely didn't pay much attention to it. By the time it was relevant it was long forgotten.

What school did teach me is how to research and learn things on my own. If you didn't learn how to do that after 12 years that's on you.

[westopher]

What school did teach me is how to research and learn things on my own. If you didn't learn how to do that after 12 years that's on you.
I think we've proved over the last couple years that WAY too many people believe that they learned that skill, when they most definitely did not.

[bcrdukes]

Wtf? Did you go to Harvard or something? They didn't teach us shit.

I've never walked into Costco and Hotdogs were X2+y1=3.

Useless math.

Harvard? Maybe in another life time.

Consider me a bane to society. I contribute nothing but expect everything handed to me in life! :derp: :D

[SpuGen]

As a guy in Trades

I use the "useless math" every day.
Everyone told me Math was for Accounting losers

Oh how wrong they were.
Using it for my day job, then using it again for my side gigs trying to calculate Materials and profit margins, payroll.

Fuck.
So glad Calculators exist.

[trollface]

OK, what high school did you guys go to that taught you margins and cogs?

[RiceIntegraRS]

For me, anything that required using that T4 graphing calculator was useless math. The only use i got out of that thing that i was able to install bust a move on it. Made class abit more tolerable.

[Gerbs]

OK, what high school did you guys go to that taught you margins and cogs?

Accounting 11 and it made you work in the school store lol

[trollface]

Your high school had a book store? WTF?

[roastpuff]

Your high school had a book store? WTF?

It's more likely a student run commissary that sold snacks, drinks etc. It's what my school had and it was run by the business class people alongside the special needs class.

[trollface]

My entire school was a special needs class.

[Eff-1]

My high school had a free student phone that we all could use when we needed to call for a ride home.

[punkwax]

My high school had fights pretty much every single day.

#newton

[Badhobz]

#vantech

Nuff said.
Stab stab stab hoho ho ho she ain’t pretty no more.
https://frinkiac.com/img/S11E12/960560.jpg

[donk.]

My entire school was a special needs class.

You should see highschool today

[TOS'd]

My high school had a free student phone that we all could use when we needed to call for a ride home.

We just went to the principals office to use the school's phone.

[tofu1413]

You should see highschool today

tide pods to eat and glue to sniff for recess?

[Mikoyan]

I had CE 12 in East Van in the 90's. It was basic education on subjects like how to make a basic budget, writing cover letters, resumes, how to fill out a tax return. Stuff like that.

[bcrdukes]

Did that become CAAP?

[dark0821]

Another months down.

I am happy to say that I have officially passed probabtion.

Once again (fortunate or unfortunately) finished 2nd place in overall deals placed, 2nd place in overall cars delivered. Was so close, was ranked first until Nov 29...sigh haha

Beginners luck though =) Still have no idea what I am doing.

Off to a decent weekend start this Dec, now all about consistency, go go go!

[Badhobz]

but youre working all weekends right? cant be easy on the fam.

[Eff-1]

Another months down.

I am happy to say that I have officially passed probabtion.

Once again (fortunate or unfortunately) finished 2nd place in overall deals placed, 2nd place in overall cars delivered. Was so close, was ranked first until Nov 29...sigh haha

Beginners luck though =) Still have no idea what I am doing.

Off to a decent weekend start this Dec, now all about consistency, go go go!

Does 1st place get a bonus? Or is it just bragging rights? Any bonus for 2nd place? Just curious how they incentivize salespeople on top of commissions.

[whitev70r]

December should be a good month, at least it was in the past when dealerships had inventory and pushed for sales/delivery to achieve year end goals and numbers. But now with inventory sparse, I don't think there are any incentives ... seller's market.

[Badhobz]

i just got an invite to openroad lexus's private sale on the 8th. They havent had one in 3 years.

looks like they have some stock (22' RX's) so i think the demand is dropping and supply is slowly catching up

If you go to their website and look at their current stock, most of the cars have some stupid "added accessories" that im pretty sure you cant even remove.

https://i.postimg.cc/j2zmqp7v/Capture.jpg

[dark0821]

Does 1st place get a bonus? Or is it just bragging rights? Any bonus for 2nd place? Just curious how they incentivize salespeople on top of commissions.

At least at our dealership, more so just bragging rights lol.

No one brags about it, but when I went into the interview, I told them that I came here to be the best, not to just take home a pay cheque etc etc.

So its more on me than anything else, I dont think anyone else cares.


i just got an invite to openroad lexus's private sale on the 8th. They havent had one in 3 years.

looks like they have some stock (22' RX's) so i think the demand is dropping and supply is slowly catching up

If you go to their website and look at their current stock, most of the cars have some stupid "added accessories" that im pretty sure you cant even remove.



That is good to know, we are still hurting quite a bit over here. Absolutely nothing for 2022 cept for one Santa Cruz

And our 2023 is like... you gotta love the color and trim and spec, or else factory order times is gonna hurt...

[Gerbs]

Is the Veloster N officially done, no more inventory flowing in? I got quoted close to $39.5 - 39.5K for a trade-in recently. Kinda wanna swap to Elantra N for new tech.

[dark0821]

Yes, its done done, no more.

Its essentially the same car, what features are selling you on the Elantra that the Veloster lacks?

[Gumby]

Glad to hear you're doing well and enjoying it so far.

What puzzles me is this - what are you delivering if stock levels are terrible?

It's like the dealership received 20 cars in November, and there are 7 sales people (imaginary numbers).

[68style]

I liked how the white Kona N in your showroom looked!

Too bad they don’t make a manual version…

[mb_]

What puzzles me is this - what are you delivering if stock levels are terrible?



I'm thinking it's probably used car deliveries included with new car deliveries

[Gerbs]

Yes, its done done, no more.

Its essentially the same car, what features are selling you on the Elantra that the Veloster lacks?

Just want the updated digital dash + nicer interior + extra 20ish or so hp. A part of me wants a DCT for the first time in my life lol

[dark0821]

Just want the updated digital dash + nicer interior + extra 20ish or so hp. A part of me wants a DCT for the first time in my life lol

Ahh I see I see... I havn't tried it so I cant tell you, but 2 of our staff have the Elantra N, both DCT, they seem to love it.

Not sure how the 20hp will stack, as the Elantra is most defn heavier I would say. But maybe it rides better due to the longer wheelbase?

I can comment on how good we have it in Canada though, people from the states will drive up to our Richmond dealer to pick up parts for their N. Some of our "standard equipment" on our "N" is downright not available in the states, even if you wanted to pay extra. And most of the parts are plug n play, like having just the extra plug dangling if you pop under the dash or under the carpet on the floor.

[EvoFire]

Ahh I see I see... I havn't tried it so I cant tell you, but 2 of our staff have the Elantra N, both DCT, they seem to love it.

Not sure how the 20hp will stack, as the Elantra is most defn heavier I would say. But maybe it rides better due to the longer wheelbase?

I can comment on how good we have it in Canada though, people from the states will drive up to our Richmond dealer to pick up parts for their N. Some of our "standard equipment" on our "N" is downright not available in the states, even if you wanted to pay extra. And most of the parts are plug n play, like having just the extra plug dangling if you pop under the dash or under the carpet on the floor.

What do we get that they don't? That's really odd cause usually it's the same car. Usually it's the other way around?

The only thing I can think of are the cold weather options. In my M3, most southern cars don't get the heated steering wheel. People look for a heated wheel to swap into their cars, whereas it comes standard on all Canadian models.

[tofu1413]

Ahh I see I see... I havn't tried it so I cant tell you, but 2 of our staff have the Elantra N, both DCT, they seem to love it.

Not sure how the 20hp will stack, as the Elantra is most defn heavier I would say. But maybe it rides better due to the longer wheelbase?

I can comment on how good we have it in Canada though, people from the states will drive up to our Richmond dealer to pick up parts for their N. Some of our "standard equipment" on our "N" is downright not available in the states, even if you wanted to pay extra. And most of the parts are plug n play, like having just the extra plug dangling if you pop under the dash or under the carpet on the floor.

thats like the civic Si that we get here vs the US model.

Ours are apparently more decked out with features vs the stateside "strippers"

[Gerbs]

What do we get that they don't? That's really odd cause usually it's the same car. Usually it's the other way around?

The only thing I can think of are the cold weather options. In my M3, most southern cars don't get the heated steering wheel. People look for a heated wheel to swap into their cars, whereas it comes standard on all Canadian models.

We get heated seats, steering wheels, lane assist?, block heater, and cyber grey colour.

Looking at forums, people paid $33 - 38K USD for the Veloster N which is $45 to $52K CAD due to mark-up.

[EvoFire]

thats like the civic Si that we get here vs the US model.

Ours are apparently more decked out with features vs the stateside "strippers"

But they can still option the cars to the same spec?

For my MS3, the range in the states was much bigger than here. We had no options here but the US models strippers had less things, and the loaded models had more.

[roastpuff]

But they can still option the cars to the same spec?

For my MS3, the range in the states was much bigger than here. We had no options here but the US models strippers had less things, and the loaded models had more.

The US-spec Si does not get the digital dash or heated seats (unsure about adaptive dampers) and they cannot option the car to get it.

[TypeRNammer]

The US-spec Si does not get the digital dash or heated seats (unsure about adaptive dampers) and they cannot option the car to get it.

Don't forget heated mirrors, turn signal indicators on mirrors, fog lights

[donk.]

What's everyone asking for this year, for wage bumps?

If inflation was at 6-7% for 2022, im thinking of barking for a 7% raise when I get back to Vancouver. Anything under would essentially be a pay "decrease".

Wages never match true inflation, but we will see what happens

[trollface]

Ask for the moon

[donk.]

This ain't no dogicoin

[underscore]

I got 5% without saying anything, that's at 9 months with this current company.

[bcuzracecarz]

I’m American based company and fiscal year starts April 1st. Typically it’s around 3-5% without asking but might need to push the envelope a bit more this year.

[BIC_BAWS]

I got 10% without saying anything. But we were dealt with a raise freeze in 2022.. so it doesn't really even out.

Bosses said it was due to inflation and I tried to negotiate for more, as more responsibilities increased drastically as well. Oh, and they got rid of paid overtime in 2022. So that sucks.

[Gerbs]

What's everyone asking for this year, for wage bumps?

If inflation was at 6-7% for 2022, im thinking of barking for a 7% raise when I get back to Vancouver. Anything under would essentially be a pay "decrease".

Wages never match true inflation, but we will see what happens

From what I saw in finance and accounting roles, friends got a standard 3% pay bump without asking nor promotions, so roughly $2.5-3.5K. I got 6.2%, which is also not outpacing inflation. On a retail staff level, I did see a lot of raises north of 10 - 20% but that's going from $18 to $21.5/hr.

Likely need a job hop to get anything remotely more than 10 - 20%

[68style]

Or you can work for the government and get 1% a year and watch everyone bitch about their tax dollars on the news when they report it lol

[tofu1413]

no real raises in car industry sales as we are commission based.


just sell more cars.

[Gerbs]

no real raises in car industry sales as we are commission based.


just sell more cars.

Every year you gotta sell an extra car per month to match inflation haha

[Eff-1]

Vast majority of people aren't getting wage increases relative to inflation. Anything 3% or higher puts you in the lucky category.

[tofu1413]

Every year you gotta sell an extra car per month to match inflation haha

more like 3-5 cars more per year. :suspicious:

[BaoTurbo]

People getting commission cuts in the industry, and inflation on top haha

[EvoFire]

Be lucky to have a job in tech at this rate. New layoffs every week.

[HonestTea]

Be lucky to have a job in tech at this rate. New layoffs every week.

Yup..it's pretty grim out there.

[donk.]

If history repeats it's self, unemployment will spike in the next x months and the "recession" will finally start

Chart below is missing about a year worth of data, USA is at -0.8 10-2 yield, should be getting very close to the above happening

https://d1-invdn-com.investing.com/content/pic8528b2ea39245e13bfe581d6032eb0c6.png

https://m.investing.com/analysis/recession-warnings-rise-limiting-the-feds-inflation-fight-200622820

[Gerbs]

more like 3-5 cars more per year. :suspicious:

man over a decade that's like 50 cars lol

If history repeats it's self, unemployment will spike in the next x months and the "recession" will finally start


Recessions feel like a really good time for those are in demand jobs though, high income, and ability to buy cheap stocks or assets on sale!

[GLOW]

Be lucky to have a job in tech at this rate. New layoffs every week.

that's why i got out of tech in the last recession, seems to ride big waves of feast or famine and i wanted stability. seems like just last year we were talking about $150k+ software engineering jobs on here...

[EvoFire]

that's why i got out of tech in the last recession, seems to ride big waves of feast or famine and i wanted stability. seems like just last year we were talking about $150k+ software engineering jobs on here...

The salaries have pulled back a bit, but it's still more lucrative than most fields unless you are commission, can do tons of OT, or work for yourself.

[Tapioca]

What is the average annual income (inclusive of any base salary and commissions and other incentives/perks) of someone in car sales anyway? 100K? $120K?

[trollface]

No way AVG is 100. There are 10,000 kids on FB posting dealer cars on their marketplace profiles like they're selling shoes.

[bcuzracecarz]

With car sales, would there be “raises”? Better commission percentages over time? I’ve never really asked or thought about it just curious since I’ve never sold them.

[sonick]

Every year you gotta sell an extra car per month to match inflation haha

Car prices themselves have gone up with inflation (or more). More than enough covers general inflation even without selling the extra cars.

[dark0821]

With car sales, would there be “raises”? Better commission percentages over time? I’ve never really asked or thought about it just curious since I’ve never sold them.

Just got a decrease this year 2023 compared to 2022, reasoning is invenroty looks to be better than last year, there are now more cars to sell.

More cars with the same amount of sales on the floor = more cars being sold by everyone, hence you should still make the same if not more than last year.

[KayC]

Just got a decrease this year 2023 compared to 2022, reasoning is invenroty looks to be better than last year, there are now more cars to sell.

More cars with the same amount of sales on the floor = more cars being sold by everyone, hence you should still make the same if not more than last year.

How do you feel about this? I am not in car sales so I have no idea what I am talking about, but it feels like you are doing more for the same pay. Increase in inventory doesn't automatically mean increase in potential buyers. In the end, you are doing more work, selling more cars, to make the same as before. Feels like corporate/ dealership owner's greed to me looking from the outside.

[mb_]

Just got a decrease this year 2023 compared to 2022, reasoning is invenroty looks to be better than last year, there are now more cars to sell.

More cars with the same amount of sales on the floor = more cars being sold by everyone, hence you should still make the same if not more than last year.

I worked for OpenRoad before and I'm not one bit surprised about this. Sorry to hear, hope it works out

[entrax]

I worked for OpenRoad before and I'm not one bit surprised about this. Sorry to hear, hope it works out

+1

[BaoTurbo]

With car sales, would there be “raises”? Better commission percentages over time? I’ve never really asked or thought about it just curious since I’ve never sold them.

There are no raises and will only be cuts spun off and sold to sales team.

The expectation will always be selling more and making the same amount to keep things level.

[dark0821]

Hard to say how I feel about it tbh, but all in all, making quite a bit more than my last gig... so no complains there....

[GIZZ]

Say for the past 15 years your sales increase 10% per year. You get about a 10% cut in your pan plan each year to keep you making about the same. So you have to hustle, basically run non stop all day. No breaks, non stop. It was good pay 15 years ago, no reason to look for another job. Now it's hard not to look at all these better paying job for far less work. If you have a trades ticket, public sector is the place to be with annual raises and some union shops have additional inflation raises. The dealership kick in the teeth is that they talk about how inflation is high and people can't afford to spend but good job with increasing sales, here's a pay cut. That's the car industry for you. Nobody gives a shit about you anymore.

[ilovebacon]

so when is the best time to get a new car with all these inflated sale prices?

[Traum]

so when is the best time to get a new car with all these inflated sale prices?
That is more like a crystal ball question.

IMO, much of the reasons for the continual dealership-level premiums are due to manufacturers' ongoing inability to produce enough cars for the demand. And that in turn is due to supply chain and semiconductor issues that have been plaguing us since the pandemic.

Honda has indicated that foresee the semiconductor issue easing (for them) in the 2nd half of 2023. I think they are either too optimistic, or have signed some sort of semiconductor supply contract to ensure a smoother operation. But overall, I don't really see the semiconductor situation easing until more of the new US semiconductor plans come online, and that is still a good 2 - 3 years away. And even then, the problem may not get resolved because I think China is involved in the early steps in the raw material to silicon wafer production, and the Western World isn't exactly on friendly terms with China right now.

IMO, for things to get back to normal, the World needs to get itself into a state where manufacturing wouldn't be so dependent on China. Things are moving in that direction, but we are far from being there.

If the world heads into a recession though, prices will soften a bit, but that is only due to lower demand and not any improvements on the supply side, and the supply side is where the real problem is right now.

[supafamous]

Honda has indicated that foresee the semiconductor issue easing (for them) in the 2nd half of 2023. I think they are either too optimistic, or have signed some sort of semiconductor supply contract to ensure a smoother operation. But overall, I don't really see the semiconductor situation easing until more of the new US semiconductor plans come online, and that is still a good 2 - 3 years away. And even then, the problem may not get resolved because I think China is involved in the early steps in the raw material to silicon wafer production, and the Western World isn't exactly on friendly terms with China right now.

IMO, for things to get back to normal, the World needs to get itself into a state where manufacturing wouldn't be so dependent on China. Things are moving in that direction, but we are far from being there.

Honda seems to have caved a bit in that they are now selling trims without features where they lack chips - like they have the new CR-V without blind spot monitoring available next to versions that do have it (CR-V LX-B vs LX).

If I remember correctly the European makers are hamstrung by the war in Ukraine as they get a lot of chips from that region - a number of Porsches were shipping without certain headlights and power steering wheel adjustments etc due to a lack of supply. As long as Putin is a warlord things on that front won't get better.

[donk.]

IMO, for things to get back to normal, the World needs to get itself into a state where manufacturing wouldn't be so dependent on China. Things are moving in that direction, but we are far from being there.



Nah, not possible. China's minimum wage is 2.50$ an hour, not to mention the factories that employ children.
If they employ children, then you can assume what the cost is to produce goods for our built in touchscreens, ass cooling, and door handles.

The whole "we need these jobs in USA and Canada!!!" argument is great, until the cost to manufacture locally is 500-800% higher.

If anything, I'm assuming you mean being dependent on other third world countries, Pakistan, India, Indonesia, etc

[meme405]

There are no raises and will only be cuts spun off and sold to sales team.

The expectation will always be selling more and making the same amount to keep things level.

The thing is you are always doing the same thing, and the price of the cars will rise to match inflation, so with that you've got an automatic "raise" function built in.

I hate to say this, but a car salesman is a car salesman, the difference between a good one or a bad one, or an experienced one is their ability to move more units, or more expensive units. If you do that your wage goes up/down correspondingly.

So I can see why it isn't a job where you get "raises", why would you.

As a similar example, as a tradesperson, if you stay as a regular Level 3 Apprentice, then you will not get raises beyond some crap for inflation as wages rise. The raises come with getting your journeyman ticket, becoming a foreman, or a super. Similarly for car salesman, you need to become sales manager, and then GM of the dealership or something like this.

The other difference between a tradesman and a car-salesman, is a tradesman with 30 years of experience is going to be handedly better than some guy with 4 years fresh out of school. So there is an expectation to pay these craftsmen more for their experience.

Translate that back to car sales, and the only thing experience counts for is selling more units, or more expensive units. So you either gotta move from Toyota to Ferrari, or you gotta be slanging camry's like your Walter White.

[trollface]

I heard Kia poached one of Honda's top sales guy in Richmond just before covid. Dude was making 250+ selling civics with all the undercoating and tint.

[Traum]

Actually, under Emperor Xi, min wage has risen quite a bit in China, as had the supposedly employer-paid work/medical insurance. So while China's labour costs are still significantly lower than what N.America / Japan / Western Europe pays, compared to many places in SE Asia -- think India, Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, etc. -- China's labour costs are actually nowhere nearly as attractive as they once were.

And then there is the risk factor -- the US-China trade wars (started during the Trump era, and has since been significantly ramped up by Biden) as well as the pandemic has made manufacturers of all kinds come to the realization that the geopolitical risks of operating a business in China has become far too great. Many are either relocating their supply chain business elsewhere in SE Asia, or are just shutting down altogether. Apple/Foxconn, for example, is relocating a sizable portion of its factories from China to India. SK Hynix (memory chip manufacturer) will no longer produce higher tech products from their China plants (due to the US semiconductor ban to China). Toshiba closed its Dalian plant of 30 years.

There was a time when China was the World's biggest and best factory, but that is no longer the case now. Once enough of the supply chain have moved out of China, things will see a bit of improvement.

Nah, not possible. China's minimum wage is 2.50$ an hour, not to mention the factories that employ children.
If they employ children, then you can assume what the cost is to produce goods for our built in touchscreens, ass cooling, and door handles.

The whole "we need these jobs in USA and Canada!!!" argument is great, until the cost to manufacture locally is 500-800% higher.

If anything, I'm assuming you mean being dependent on other third world countries, Pakistan, India, Indonesia, etc

[jcmaz]

Good luck becoming SM or GM of a store; it's very difficult to get into management positions without having some sort of insider connection and a lot of time spent selling. But if you were successful in selling, why would you get into management? The real gravy sales jobs are the finance managers

Those who are able to sell high volume of cars most likely have good social connections, ability to generate additional leads (or pay for it), and are charismatic with high closing ratios.

Couple years ago, Product Advisors were given flat commission on low gross profit cars like the Corolla. The only way they were able to make a decent amount of money was on the bonuses and lowballing trade ins.

There are no raises in sales jobs. Sell more and that's your raise.

More cars with the same amount of sales on the floor = more cars being sold by everyone, hence you should still make the same if not more than last year.


But at the same time, every other manufacturer should have more stock to sell so consumers have more choices to shop around for the right vehicle.

[dark0821]

One of our PAs was a Sales Manager at a diff dealer, and has since moved back to sales, when asked, he just said he makes way more as sales and way less stressed... so lol...

[GIZZ]

local dealership pay is not the same as 15 years ago. It was unheard of before but this is what's been happening. Base pays are being cut, commissions are reduced all over the board. You're going to have targets that 1% of the sales can hit. So even if you sell more year over year you likely still make less and less every year. Then consider inflation and you're doing worse than you thought. That's why I'll never recommend this line of work.

[Gerbs]

Good luck becoming SM or GM of a store; it's very difficult to get into management positions without having some sort of insider connection and a lot of time spent selling. But if you were successful in selling, why would you get into management? The real gravy sales jobs are the finance managers


My SM friend said the last 3 years was his peak earnings at close to $300K after bonuses. Apparently finance managers are clearing $150 - 250 all day at the moment and don't really need to fight for sales as there's a constant waitlist. But they do work all day + weekends. Heard him talking to the GSM on making $400 - 800k lol. :heckno:

[Badhobz]

well every dealership only needs 1-2 of these guys/gals so thats like what? less than 50-80 people making that kinda scratch in vancouver? its not like these positions come up very often for the average joe to just jump in. Im pretty sure its all based on who you know

Seems like if you got a huge social network and you are good at sales, being a realtor would make better scratch with the same amount of effort. At least it was a few years ago. If these ching chong ling long ah mo's (old ladies) can do it, then a lot of you guys doing car sales should be able to do it.

[supafamous]

Apparently being a Sleep Country sales person is a nice gig - can make $100k pretty easily as the markups on mattresses are obscene.

[donk.]

Apparently being a Sleep Country sales person is a nice gig - can make $100k pretty easily as the markups on mattresses are obscene.

:seriously: must be top 5% making over 100k

Those people are so sleazy its also obscene

[Bender Unit]

dark0821, please check PM

[EvoFire]

dark0821, please check PM

You might be better off calling OpenRoad Hyundai and asking for him. He's been busy and doesn't hop on here as much now.

[sonick]

Hi may I please speak with mister zero eight two one?

[bcrdukes]

"WEI WEI!??!?! NI SHIRRRRRRRRRRRRR LING BAH ERR YEE SHIEN SHIANG, MAH!??!?!"

[dark0821]

gotta thank the bcrdukes 3Xs lolol..

It was the prompt to check the stock and noob thread that got me to Revscene... and finding the PM from Bender XD

[bcrdukes]

Thanks for coming out tonight! Hope the family had fun! :)

[BIC_BAWS]

Damnit I missed Dark?

Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk

[EvoFire]

Damnit I missed Dark?

Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk

Dude you said hi to me, then I went to say hi to Dark :suspicious:

[donk.]

Reviving this thread

Anyone jump ship from one category of work to another? And I'm talking like full 180. Or maybe at least a solid 45 degree turn

Feels like more days I'm debating if I should be doing something new at work. Borderline bored / unmotivated in general.
Then there's days where I remind myself it could be a lot worse. (Mashing a keyboard, pushing pencils, being micromanaged, not liking my co workers, bad work hours, etc)
Then I remind myself how much I disliked school, and I should never go back.
Then I have several good days/weeks at work, and I don't even think about it, and the cycle repeats

Anyone jump ship from a trade into ?????, thoughts, suggestions?

Was looking at becoming 5-0 for the longest time, but nope to the 4 on 4 off random ass shifts.
Was looking at getting my helicopter licence, but don't think I can sit in a chair for 8hrs.
Jet turbine mechanic, again the thought of going to school is such a turn off

[68style]

I'm doing the office job pushing paper, being micromanaged (by insecure middle aged women no less), not liking my coworkers thing and it's death by a thousand cuts... don't do it.

Your ability to go work in your trade in NZ or maybe anywhere else in the world is pretty bomb, maybe you just need to change up your scenery?

[GLOW]

Reviving this thread

Anyone jump ship from one category of work to another? And I'm talking like full 180. Or maybe at least a solid 45 degree turn

Feels like more days I'm debating if I should be doing something new at work. Borderline bored / unmotivated in general.
Then there's days where I remind myself it could be a lot worse. (Mashing a keyboard, pushing pencils, being micromanaged, not liking my co workers, bad work hours, etc)
Then I remind myself how much I disliked school, and I should never go back.


interested in going from the field to the office? that's usually an obvious route for trades, get in to estimating/PM work.

i changed a few times while still using my education to help secure the job. biggest switch was my 1st jump, but my subsequent ones were not as big a deviation. i try to change while utilizing my foundation of education/exp so it's less of a shock on my life.

[Badhobz]

I would say you follow your heart bro. In Dark's case, he's doing quite a bit better than before and im glad he made the jump. But what you might perceive as moving up, might not ultimately be as rewarding as you think it is.

Grass always seems greener on the other side. I thought by moving into management i was moving up, but instead it turned into a pit of vipers. When i left railroad, i felt like i lost my identity and I sincerely miss that part of my life.

My current port gig is good, but i much rather be riding the high rails. It just seems so much more fulfilling than micromanaging numbers/people/logistics. yeah yeah money is better now, but its not always about money. Its about how you live with yourself.

[trollface]

It's all about the benjamins baby

Poverty will make your mental health a lot worse.

[Badhobz]

not true at all mang. Most of the fucktards in my field are making over 300k and they are all miserable fucks.

Most are on their 3rd marriage, most are overcompensating by drinking/smoking/eating themselves to an early grave.
Im one the few who dont drink/smoke or have any real bad habits (besides the occasional food binge) and they think im a fucking weirdo. Some industries are just more toxic than others.

You being king shit of wendy's drive thru window, im sure you have to deal with HERROW HERROW!? me no hear u good talking box man. That in itself is quite horrible.

[EvoFire]

Reviving this thread

Anyone jump ship from one category of work to another? And I'm talking like full 180. Or maybe at least a solid 45 degree turn

Feels like more days I'm debating if I should be doing something new at work. Borderline bored / unmotivated in general.
Then there's days where I remind myself it could be a lot worse. (Mashing a keyboard, pushing pencils, being micromanaged, not liking my co workers, bad work hours, etc)
Then I remind myself how much I disliked school, and I should never go back.
Then I have several good days/weeks at work, and I don't even think about it, and the cycle repeats

Anyone jump ship from a trade into ?????, thoughts, suggestions?

Was looking at becoming 5-0 for the longest time, but nope to the 4 on 4 off random ass shifts.
Was looking at getting my helicopter licence, but don't think I can sit in a chair for 8hrs.
Jet turbine mechanic, again the thought of going to school is such a turn off

I'm in the same boat, but I got nowhere to jump to. I'm in tech and to make a salary that can support my mortgage is impossible as a junior anywhere else :alone::QQ:

[trollface]

Those aren't mutually exclusive, though.

There are far more sad ppl under the poverty line than there are sad people making 300k. There is a line somewhere, but it's often tilted towards the dollar bills side, especially in a city as expensive as Van.

The stress you put on a relationship when you cant afford rent is a whole lot rougher than spending 300k on FunkoPops and whisky.

[GLOW]

not true at all mang. Most of the fucktards in my field are making over 300k and they are all miserable fucks.

Most are on their 3rd marriage, most are overcompensating by drinking/smoking/eating themselves to an early grave.
Im one the few who dont drink/smoke or have any real bad habits (besides the occasional food binge) and they think im a fucking weirdo. Some industries are just more toxic than others.


that's b/c it's not really $300k they're making... by the time you're done you're 3rd marriage, that $300k is actually more like take home $50k amirite? :troll: Kappa :nyan:

[Badhobz]

Totally true. Taxes and their lifestyle has taken a heavy toll on their financial independence. So much so that they live pay cheque to pay cheque.

[mikemhg]

I'm doing the office job pushing paper, being micromanaged (by insecure middle aged women no less), not liking my coworkers thing and it's death by a thousand cuts... don't do it.

Your ability to go work in your trade in NZ or maybe anywhere else in the world is pretty bomb, maybe you just need to change up your scenery?

Middle aged white women in an office management setting are literally the worst people to work with.

No misogamy here, it's just the truth. Nothing can be agreed upon, nothing can ever get actioned, meetings just happen with no actual outcomes.

It's actually quite fascinating how different men and women work in that regard.

[donk.]

not liking my coworkers thing and it's death by a thousand cuts... don't do it.

Your ability to go work in your trade in NZ or maybe anywhere else in the world is pretty bomb, maybe you just need to change up your scenery?

I'm probably completely ignorant to what I have, and the opportunities I have had. Your probably right on the change of scenery.
Maybe it also has to do with hobbies after work. I tend to surf 2-3-4 times a week in NZ. Whereas I'm only going out 1-2 times a week for a bike ride here, and a night cruise 1-2 other days.
Happy life outside of work = better life at work?

interested in going from the field to the office? that's usually an obvious route for trades, get in to estimating/PM work.

i changed a few times while still using my education to help secure the job. biggest switch was my 1st jump, but my subsequent ones were not as big a deviation. i try to change while utilizing my foundation of education/exp so it's less of a shock on my life.

Office is....... Probably not for me, I did 50% field, 50% office about 9 years ago, and the office was just sooooo slooowww. We have a position in the office where I could be service manager, but I just don't know if I can handle the office pace at my age. I think I need another 10-20 years before hitting the chair

I would say you follow your heart bro.

Grass always seems greener on the other side. I thought by moving into management i was moving up, but instead it turned into a pit of vipers. When i left railroad, i felt like i lost my identity and I sincerely miss that part of my life.

yeah yeah money is better now, but its not always about money.
The heart is grey...... Lol, doesnt know what it wants. Kinda like having a good girl at home, but you keep seeing those azn babes online

You are right, the idea of a new job may sound good, but the grass may also be grey once I get in there.

It's all about the benjamins baby

Poverty will make your mental health a lot worse.

This is also high on the thought process, like badhobz said, it's hard to leave the high income. Then again, I have a friend that went from 150k job to working at a brewery for 65k/yr, and loves it. I'm assuming he has stacks in the bank account so it does not worry him.

I'm in the same boat, but I got nowhere to jump to. I'm in tech and to make a salary that can support my mortgage is impossible as a junior anywhere else :alone::QQ:

Facts.... once again, when you have that income, it's tough to go to no income, and mystery income after graduation.

[inv4zn]

Middle aged white women in an office management setting are literally the worst people to work with.

No misogamy here, it's just the truth. Nothing can be agreed upon, nothing can ever get actioned, meetings just happen with no actual outcomes.

It's actually quite fascinating how different men and women work in that regard.

Ugh, we have one 'director' and she fits the description to a T.

Micromanaging (from a national level nonetheless), stubborn, and thinks she's all edgy because in leadership calls she'll say things like "well the client can suck a dick".

Yet she keeps her job because women in leadership and all that. Imagine if an old white guy said something similar, like grab'em by the pus...oh, wait, bad example.

[bcrdukes]

@ Donk - Why don't you become the next prime minister? No single day will be boring or repetitive.

[whitev70r]

IG influencer? Teach people your trade in 30 secs tidbits ... throw in a dance.

[donk.]

@ Donk - Why don't you become the next prime minister? No single day will be boring or repetitive.

My IQ is way too low for that.
Also, I don't want to be hondaracers next profile picture

IG influencer? Teach people your trade in 30 secs tidbits ... throw in a dance.

Funny enough I thought about making "educational / entertainment" videos for the trade.
But the reality is, unless your posting videos of your tits, you ain't making money on TikTok
or feet pics.......

[underscore]

Nothing can be agreed upon, nothing can ever get actioned, meetings just happen with no actual outcomes.

That sounds the same as every other meeting I get dragged into :lol

[dark0821]

I guess I am coming up to my 1 year mark...

whao... time really flies...at my age, I actually wish time will go slower haha....

Job has been great... income has been good? but also super unpredictable, I can literally make it rain one month and eat dirt the next lol (well still better than my last job even on my worse month) but... once you taste the highs... the lows feels pretty low...

Otherwise, mentally doing great!

- meeting new people and just chit chatting
- sitting into the newest and greatest (well.. for a 50K car lol)
- experiencing just all kinds of cars, and management encourages it, because only when you drive your own used inventory, you can then find its strength and weakness then match them to the clients wants and needs, otherwise a real shit example of a competitor can be your ticket to selling your own new inventory lol
- and most of your service techs are car guys thru and thru, so break/lunch has always been too short
- managers have been great, absolutely no micro-managing, but do give you actual advice when you are stuck in a deal and goes up for help, also.... car guys thru and thru, cant stress that enough, we can talk for hours and hours on the new GT3 or R32, if it wasn't for work, I would actually just sit at the managers desk because they just have so much insight on the topics that I want to know more about....

Hoping to keep the momentum going and hoping to have actual cars to sell next year lolo, our new car inventory is still a joke lol

[whitev70r]

^ You made a very successful transition, just feels like you were made for this industry, and found a really good dealer to work at !! Props. I mean you could have made the transition and ended up in a shitty environment of a dealer and it would have ruined your overall experience.

[trollface]

Stop by Wendy's some time I give you extra patty

[tegra7]

Work environment is everything. Seems like you're in a good place.

[bcuzracecarz]

I went from API fuel tank inspector traveling 250+ days a year, to private lending mortgage broker, now am outside sales in construction industry. My whole career has been a 180. Love where I’m at now though.

Inspector - solid money, fun going to new places, too much travel life in hotels, wife/me wanted kids, needed more work life balance.
Mortgage broker - private lending world is a strange place, praying on the weak essentially which I wasn’t into, cubical life killed me, only did it for a year and a half.
Outside sales - great work life balance, meeting new people and not being in office, I’m a golfer so the perks are great for that haha

love where I’m at now but definitely scary to do the 180s especially once I had kids/mortgage.

[Gerbs]

I'm in the same boat, but I got nowhere to jump to. I'm in tech and to make a salary that can support my mortgage is impossible as a junior anywhere else :alone::QQ:

For the longest time, I thought I made a mistake going into accounting/finance and I should be in tech because I rather slap my keyboard in a different sequence to make more $$$$.

I failed java and realized tech is not for me at all. Especially having expectation to finish xyz amount of code by date.

[SkunkWorks]

I'm doing the 180 right now.

Did the safe accounting thing and got my designation, hated everything about it, jumped ship a few times thinking it'd change with new scenery - it didn't and after a few years sucking it up it really took its toll on my mental health until one day I just said no more.

Currently back in school for something I've wanted to do since high school and I absolutely love it and am thriving. My only regret is not doing it sooner.

I realize I'm quite privileged to be able to go back to school while still having a roof over my head and food on the table. A lot of folks don't have that luxury. But if you have the means, I highly recommend it.

You'll be working the next 30+ years of your life, might as well spend it doing something you enjoy/are interested in.

[Badhobz]

ya'll a bunch of brave ass mofos. Id be terrified to go back to school to do something i actually wanted to do (like become a mate/captain on a tug boat). I always wanted to be a pilot too but i got shitty eyes and weigh too much for crappy Cesna's

[SkunkWorks]

Forgot to add, it's not all rosy as the tradeoffs are significant. Going back to school has pushed back our plans for home ownership and starting a family.

My only saving grace here is that the gf also spent eons in school so she knows how it is/it's time for her to pull up her bootstraps while I've got 2 months of summer break :lol

[dark0821]

Stop by Wendy's some time I give you extra patty

are you working today? XD

[trollface]

I'm training this week for shift mgr in Burnaby.

[whitev70r]

Stop by Wendy's some time I give you extra patty

Offer open to all RS'ers? :lol

[radeonboy]

An extra patty would be perfect to go with the $5 Baconator app offer.

[EvoFire]

I hear extra patty at Wendy's, I want in.

[roastpuff]

RS Baconator meet??

[Gerbs]

ya'll a bunch of brave ass mofos. Id be terrified to go back to school to do something i actually wanted to do (like become a mate/captain on a tug boat). I always wanted to be a pilot too but i got shitty eyes and weigh too much for crappy Cesna's

I flew a Cesna for 30 minutes a few weeks ago and I weigh like 230lbs :awwyeah:

Such a rich person flex to buy one so you can fly to the island to grab a pie and go home.

I'm doing the 180 right now.

Did the safe accounting thing and got my designation, hated everything about it, jumped ship a few times thinking it'd change with new scenery - it didn't and after a few years sucking it up it really took its toll on my mental health until one day I just said no more.

Currently back in school for something I've wanted to do since high school and I absolutely love it and am thriving. My only regret is not doing it sooner.

I realize I'm quite privileged to be able to go back to school while still having a roof over my head and food on the table. A lot of folks don't have that luxury. But if you have the means, I highly recommend it.

You'll be working the next 30+ years of your life, might as well spend it doing something you enjoy/are interested in.

What'd you end up doing? I feel like post CPA, it's so hard to leave once you make above average salary for 20-40 hours of work, add remote on top and this is probably what retirement feels like.

[bcuzracecarz]

The pilot road is no easy task. It baffles me how little they make until they make captain at a bigger commercial airline. My best friend is a commercial pilot for a major airline and he’s mid 30s, started the process when he was very early 20s; Slowly working his way through the smaller airlines, up north for a bit, then Canadian commercial, then transferring to bigger airline, now finally copilot on 737. During Covid when no one was flying he went to sweep grain at the railyard in van, making mid 80s or so…..he’s now flying human beings around the planet and had to take a significant paycut to get his seat back. Eventually will be making 250k + but holy shit it’s a long journey to that money.

[trollface]

I can't give away too many. Wendy has numbers for shrinkage/waste. Give away too much Pattys and Cheese they will beat me with jumper cables, those items are highly monitored as they cost a lot.

I can maybe do like 2 pieces of cheese or one patty a day.

[Matsuda]

how many to patties does it take to get a Golf R?

[trollface]

A lot man, a lot.

[roastpuff]

There's that $5 Baconator deal, I'm good with that.

[donk.]

Someone say baconator?

https://youtu.be/wdF9liwZfuI

[Matsuda]

wendy's meet?

[tofu1413]

Kinda down before summer ends.

[trollface]

No donuts in my parking lot pls.

[RabidRat]

I guess I am coming up to my 1 year mark...

whao... time really flies...at my age, I actually wish time will go slower haha....

Job has been great... income has been good? but also super unpredictable, I can literally make it rain one month and eat dirt the next lol (well still better than my last job even on my worse month) but... once you taste the highs... the lows feels pretty low...

Otherwise, mentally doing great!

- meeting new people and just chit chatting
- sitting into the newest and greatest (well.. for a 50K car lol)
- experiencing just all kinds of cars, and management encourages it, because only when you drive your own used inventory, you can then find its strength and weakness then match them to the clients wants and needs, otherwise a real shit example of a competitor can be your ticket to selling your own new inventory lol
- and most of your service techs are car guys thru and thru, so break/lunch has always been too short
- managers have been great, absolutely no micro-managing, but do give you actual advice when you are stuck in a deal and goes up for help, also.... car guys thru and thru, cant stress that enough, we can talk for hours and hours on the new GT3 or R32, if it wasn't for work, I would actually just sit at the managers desk because they just have so much insight on the topics that I want to know more about....

Hoping to keep the momentum going and hoping to have actual cars to sell next year lolo, our new car inventory is still a joke lol

Man, goes to show that when you really love what you're doing, you're going to really succeed with it.

I started out reading the original post thinking this sounded like such a bad idea, but then I remembered just how honest-to-god no-BS, genuinely happy and excited you are about cars. And I vividly remember that from something like 15 years ago!

I'd buy a car from you even if it wasn't the best deal: sometimes the value of a sales experience is not calculated in dollars.

[dark0821]

^ Whao... SFICC ftw hahaha....

hahahahah thanks... it helps that we are actually competitive =) and being next to Toyota helps ... a lot

btw the person who got me this interview/job was also part of our club... in the same year as me, can you guess who? hehehe

[Simplex123]

Congrats dark0821 on the YTD sales and new rollie [emoji57]

Glad you're killing it after making the big jump!


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[dark0821]

Congrats dark0821 on the YTD sales and new rollie [emoji57]

Glad you're killing it after making the big jump!


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Cant even keep anything a secret in this town... but you know what... I was never all that low profile hahaha....

First ever mechanical watch, before this, the most expensive watch I have will be my Samsung smart watch...



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Now I am too scared to wear it... so it will probably be in my room collecting dust for the forseeable future...

[68style]

Nice watch and great job Dark!

I have planned a watch purchase of my own for being mortgage freeeeeeee soon

[tofu1413]

damn.


really killing it. I have yet to make said purchase yet on le watch :lawl:

[dark0821]

damn.


really killing it. I have yet to make said purchase yet on le watch :lawl:

Thats just you being humble, me on the other hand... sigh

[68style]

There's a few watches wrapped up in that R35 lol

[bcrdukes]

The bar has been raised. RS member household income is over $250K :accepted:

[Badhobz]

Grats dark. Well deserved !!!!

[tofu1413]

There's a few watches wrapped up in that R35 lol

:alone::alone::alone::alone: the brake job and tire funds

[Matsuda]

I'm genuinely happy for you and that you are finding success! Many more successes to come!

[Teriyaki]

Walked by Openroad Hyundai yesterday and this thread just popped into my mind.
Shit its already been 2 years, and we never got those 6mth 1yr updates!

[Badhobz]

He’s doing fine ! He’s bored. And Hyundai is beneath him ! He should go to Porsche and sell beetles to douche bags but he’s getting complacent and lazy since he’s like their top sales.

From a printing guy to top sales in Hyundai. My man….

[bcrdukes]

Im surprised he’s not at Ferrari already. :suspicious:

[dark0821]

LOL fook my bad....

To be very honest, I just forgot completely....

The biggest change since the job change = I got fat. like fat fat, I went from 130 to 132 LBs to now 190 LBs, none of my shirts and suits fits me, I have to buy blazers like 3 times, went from small to now large... and I dunno... fook

Dont listen to Badhobz, I was never #1, the only time I got #1 was when the real #1 went on vacation for like 3 weeks, otherwise I am consistently in the top three 99% of the time...

I guess I have the gift of coming off genuine and friendly? people do tend to buy cars off the people they like?

I am somewhere stuck in between (my manager has found this thread), but I like Hyundai because the Sales managers are nice and Finance managers are nice (huge help that the head of Business Office/Finance manager is literally my best friend).

I do want to cont to craft my skills and move to a luxury brand, but at least from what I heard from mutual friends, luxury brands aren't doing too hot at the moment.

Ultimately I do want to be at Porsche, it seems like the perfect balance between income and passion.

But from what I understood, as a Porsche advisor, you are expected to be very very VERY independent, you are expected to take care of the deal from start to finish, you shouldnt need to go to the sales manager unless it is a very unique situation.

They wont hold your hand like they do at Hyundai, at Hyundai, you are just expected to bring the client to the desking stage, if you cant close, no worries, bring a sales manager down to your desk, and the manager will try to help you close your customer. They don't do this hand holding crap at Porsche, and that is where I really need to up my game.

I think I can get to desking pretty confidently, but closing is a whole other story, I am not gonna lie, I only close a very small percentage of my client, and I think those client will buy the car regardless which sales are sitting across from them, any of the "difficult" clients, my managers constantly come down and help me out, and they seems to do the impossible task that I can not do.

If I want to suceed at any other dealer, I need to step up my game, defintely wont find the same sucess if I were just let loose at the floor of a Porsche dealer as I am now

Other updates, I am starting to weep the benefits of being in the industry for "a while", we had an EV sale last month, and rather than being on the phone trying to call every person I said hi to in the last 6 months, I was "top sale" for the sales event because people just came in and looked for me from referrals and such. That was wild, random people that I never met "came in specifically looking for Jacky to buy an EV because so and so told them to go to Jacky".

My ultimate plan remains that I want to go to Porsche. Even just for the internal product training hahaha, I assume it will be easier to digest than the "latest 2025 Tucson changes", but yea.

Thanks everyone and I will try to update again when I make a big change. But so far, still at Hyundai, because truly believe I am not quite ready for the next step yet~ that and frikkin Porsche Richmond/Langley aren't hiring LOL, I cant do Vancouver, that turn over rate just seems.... unatural....

[Manic!]

Hey we got a brand new Porsche dealership being built in Nanaimo.

[noclue]

Dark0821 out of curiosity do you know how supercar sales rep survive? Like Ferrari/Lambo/Mclaren etc. Sure they make more commission but they also don't have as much volume. Also the CCP clampdown and slowing China economy + federal luxury tax seem to have cooled down the $100K+ market.

Porsche seems to be the ultimate brand right now. No discounts and they have volume sellers like the macan/cayenne.

[supafamous]

Hey we got a brand new Porsche dealership being built in Nanaimo.

Damn, those biker gangs must be doing really well.

[68style]

Dark0821 out of curiosity do you know how supercar sales rep survive? Like Ferrari/Lambo/Mclaren etc. Sure they make more commission but they also don't have as much volume. Also the CCP clampdown and slowing China economy + federal luxury tax seem to have cooled down the $100K+ market.

Porsche seems to be the ultimate brand right now. No discounts and they have volume sellers like the macan/cayenne.

Ask tofu that's what he does!

[Badhobz]

^pretty sure he just sells TOFU......

[dark0821]

Dark0821 out of curiosity do you know how supercar sales rep survive? Like Ferrari/Lambo/Mclaren etc. Sure they make more commission but they also don't have as much volume. Also the CCP clampdown and slowing China economy + federal luxury tax seem to have cooled down the $100K+ market.

Yea I was gonna say, exotic wise, Tofu will actually have a real answer for you. lol while I just talk out of my butt, I remember what Tofu told me before I dipped my toes, Preowned is where the meat is at, new car sales just keeps the lights on. So I am gonna go out on a limb here and says Tofu is mostly focused on used. You should see his ads, the way he has with words on the descriptions, it is most defn targeted to people like us!

To give a few examples (Tofu, hope you don't mind XDD)

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2019 Porsche 991.2 911 GT3RS
Still one of the greatest, road legal track ready street cars available on the market today! This facelifted 991.2 GT3RS is an evolution model of the ultra successful 991.1 version, with a 20hp upgrade, NACA ducts for brake cooling, a further refined aero package and lightweight glass. Rennsport specification also includes lexan rear glass for even further weight savings. This Panda spec 3RS is also equipped with lightweight carbon bucket seats, a full leather trimmed interior, black wing risers, PCCB Ceramics and a Sharkwerks exhaust to maximize this stratospheric, 9000RPM flat six experience. 27k kms only, turn key and ready for summer. Looking to maximize this 3RS ownership experience? 1 Day Area27 Track day inclusive with purchase with our Pfaff Reserve West team!
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2021 Porsche 718 Spyder PDK
The modern 550 Spyder of today. In an era of chasing performance numbers, outputs and reinventing the wheel, the 718 Spyder is a machine that completely throws out all of the statistics out the window, focusing solely on driver engagement and the raw emotions of a driver's machine. Self driving, witchcraft suspension, electric motor torque fill? Nah. Just a traditional, honest mid engine chassis with balanced, knife edge agility paired with a free breathing, high strung 4 Litre Flat six from the Porsche GT car division. Trust us, top down in this will give you a full unfiltered serving of proper GT Car motor induction noise experience, unmatched with anything else out there today under a million dollars. We totally dig the specification of this 718 as well: Classic Full red dash / Black alcantara contrast in the spartan, lightweight carbon fiber bucket seats finished with a no nonsense Black metallic exterior paintwork. Aurum Finished Spyder wheels gives off a dash of that perfect JPS retro feel to this superb machine. Modern Powertrain paired with retro cues of the golden years, this is indeed the perfectly balanced Porsche of today.
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2013 McLaren MP4-12C Spider
The original MP4-12C Spider was the original pioneer of our McLaren drop top line up. Featuring a very speedy two piece folding power Retractable Hard Top system, this allows seamless roof transformation for speeds up to 40km/h in less than 20 seconds. Based on an identical Carbon MonoCell chassis to its coupe brethren, the 12C spider enjoys identical structural rigidity, with minimal weight increase, thus retaining all the original performance yet allowing the extra theatre that only a drop top can provide. This is one well looked after 12C Spider, only serviced by our Dealer network since new! Well spec'ed with Carbon Fiber Splitter, Carbon Fiber Mirror Casings, Carbon Fiber Diffuser, Sport Exhaust, Stealth Pack, Forged wheels, Meridian Sound upgrade and more! This 616HP drop top marvel is ready for summer and ready for you!
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2024 Rolls-Royce Cullinan w/ Coachline
We will let the pictures do the talking for this one.. Stunning, as new Cullinan with Coachline specification. This Black Diamond Rolls is paired with the Ultra fire Turchese Blu interior and this spec is just too hot for us to handle... RR Monogram to all Headrests, Shooting Star Headliner, Extended Leather Headlining, Lounge seat option, Exterior Stainless Steel Package, Piano black veneer, Rolls-Royce Bespoke Audio.... and some of the finest craftsmen ship from the fellows of Goodwood. This money no object spec is a truly unique Cullinan, when the standard options are "just not quite enough". Chrome Monoblock 24" Rollers completes the presence of this Cullinan. Propelled by a bi turbo V12, this mega luxury SUV provides both oodles of seamless power and swiftness as expected of a benchmark luxury machine. We are truly excited for this one!

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You see what I mean, I can't write like that. I mean I can try super hard and it will still come off as a cheap imitation. Tofu is able to capture the passion, get you excited while providing the specs that matters to that specific vehicle. It is still my goal to buy a car off Tofu because he does actually sells the cars that I dream of + just want to experience his craft again first hand lol


Porsche seems to be the ultimate brand right now. No discounts and they have volume sellers like the macan/cayenne.

Haha, when is the last time you went to Porsche? No man, Even Porsche isn't immue to the current market, yes you can have discounts, not only on Macans/Panameras/Cayennes.

You can walk in to buy a brand new 911 (obv no GT series) with no prior history with the brand, you can get into a brand new Carrera-T lower than the official Porsche Canada websit.

Porsche is starting to have UNSOLD ALLOCATIONS on 911, when was the last time you had this happen?!

Before you can't imagine walking in wanting a stripper spec base 911, you will probably get laughed out the door, but right now, if you are in the market... just saying....

[GLOW]

The biggest change since the job change = I got fat. like fat fat, I went from 130 to 132 LBs to now 190 LBs, none of my shirts and suits fits me, I have to buy blazers like 3 times, went from small to now large... and I dunno... fook


that's just a natural sales tactic to draw in customers, fat = well fed = more successful
like a peacock showing its feathers Kappa

[68style]

Yah if you're all buff and shit guys will be like oh Jacky gonna steal my wife and my money stay away!!!!

[Dbone]

Hey we got a brand new Porsche dealership being built in Nanaimo.

About time. Is it also Gain?

[EvoFire]

Yea I was gonna say, exotic wise, Tofu will actually have a real answer for you. lol while I just talk out of my butt, I remember what Tofu told me before I dipped my toes, Preowned is where the meat is at, new car sales just keeps the lights on. So I am gonna go out on a limb here and says Tofu is mostly focused on used. You should see his ads, the way he has with words on the descriptions, it is most defn targeted to people like us!

To give a few examples (Tofu, hope you don't mind XDD)

================================================
2019 Porsche 991.2 911 GT3RS
Still one of the greatest, road legal track ready street cars available on the market today! This facelifted 991.2 GT3RS is an evolution model of the ultra successful 991.1 version, with a 20hp upgrade, NACA ducts for brake cooling, a further refined aero package and lightweight glass. Rennsport specification also includes lexan rear glass for even further weight savings. This Panda spec 3RS is also equipped with lightweight carbon bucket seats, a full leather trimmed interior, black wing risers, PCCB Ceramics and a Sharkwerks exhaust to maximize this stratospheric, 9000RPM flat six experience. 27k kms only, turn key and ready for summer. Looking to maximize this 3RS ownership experience? 1 Day Area27 Track day inclusive with purchase with our Pfaff Reserve West team!
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2021 Porsche 718 Spyder PDK
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You see what I mean, I can't write like that. I mean I can try super hard and it will still come off as a cheap imitation. Tofu is able to capture the passion, get you excited while providing the specs that matters to that specific vehicle. It is still my goal to buy a car off Tofu because he does actually sells the cars that I dream of + just want to experience his craft again first hand lol



I'm sure you'll get there. Keep in mind Tofu has been doing this for a decade, you've been doing this for 2 years.

Show 10 years ago me what I am doing now and 10 years ago me will tell me to fuck off I don't know what you are talking about :pokerface:

[mikemhg]

LOL fook my bad....

To be very honest, I just forgot completely....

The biggest change since the job change = I got fat. like fat fat, I went from 130 to 132 LBs to now 190 LBs, none of my shirts and suits fits me, I have to buy blazers like 3 times, went from small to now large... and I dunno... fook

Dont listen to Badhobz, I was never #1, the only time I got #1 was when the real #1 went on vacation for like 3 weeks, otherwise I am consistently in the top three 99% of the time...

I guess I have the gift of coming off genuine and friendly? people do tend to buy cars off the people they like?

I am somewhere stuck in between (my manager has found this thread), but I like Hyundai because the Sales managers are nice and Finance managers are nice (huge help that the head of Business Office/Finance manager is literally my best friend).

I do want to cont to craft my skills and move to a luxury brand, but at least from what I heard from mutual friends, luxury brands aren't doing too hot at the moment.

Ultimately I do want to be at Porsche, it seems like the perfect balance between income and passion.

But from what I understood, as a Porsche advisor, you are expected to be very very VERY independent, you are expected to take care of the deal from start to finish, you shouldnt need to go to the sales manager unless it is a very unique situation.

They wont hold your hand like they do at Hyundai, at Hyundai, you are just expected to bring the client to the desking stage, if you cant close, no worries, bring a sales manager down to your desk, and the manager will try to help you close your customer. They don't do this hand holding crap at Porsche, and that is where I really need to up my game.

I think I can get to desking pretty confidently, but closing is a whole other story, I am not gonna lie, I only close a very small percentage of my client, and I think those client will buy the car regardless which sales are sitting across from them, any of the "difficult" clients, my managers constantly come down and help me out, and they seems to do the impossible task that I can not do.

If I want to suceed at any other dealer, I need to step up my game, defintely wont find the same sucess if I were just let loose at the floor of a Porsche dealer as I am now

Other updates, I am starting to weep the benefits of being in the industry for "a while", we had an EV sale last month, and rather than being on the phone trying to call every person I said hi to in the last 6 months, I was "top sale" for the sales event because people just came in and looked for me from referrals and such. That was wild, random people that I never met "came in specifically looking for Jacky to buy an EV because so and so told them to go to Jacky".

My ultimate plan remains that I want to go to Porsche. Even just for the internal product training hahaha, I assume it will be easier to digest than the "latest 2025 Tucson changes", but yea.

Thanks everyone and I will try to update again when I make a big change. But so far, still at Hyundai, because truly believe I am not quite ready for the next step yet~ that and frikkin Porsche Richmond/Langley aren't hiring LOL, I cant do Vancouver, that turn over rate just seems.... unatural....


130 > 190?!?! WTF man.

[Badhobz]

^this is my fault, i introduced him to that Thursday Swedish meatball sale for 50% off at Ikea. So poor broski's been going there and stuffing his face on the cheap.

Doesnt help that his peeps keep bringing him bubble tea, doughnuts, and other goodies

[bcrdukes]

130 > 190?!?! WTF man.
Bro's been dirty bulkin' for teh gainz. :troll:

[GLOW]

Yah if you're all buff and shit guys will be like oh Jacky gonna steal my wife and my money stay away!!!!

he take the cash...AND the respect!
:badpokerface:

[Gerbs]

Before you can't imagine walking in wanting a stripper spec base 911, you will probably get laughed out the door, but right now, if you are in the market... just saying....

Is stripper spec base 911 $150K now vs $99K just a few years back?

[Razor Ramon HG]

The biggest change since the job change = I got fat. like fat fat, I went from 130 to 132 LBs to now 190 LBs, none of my shirts and suits fits me, I have to buy blazers like 3 times, went from small to now large... and I dunno... fook

Dont listen to Badhobz, I was never #1, the only time I got #1 was when the real #1 went on vacation for like 3 weeks, otherwise I am consistently in the top three 99% of the time...


130 to 190.

Least you're #1 in something.

:troll: :troll: :troll:

[hud 91gt]

Yeah man. That can’t be healthy. I mean I’m sure you’re aware but that’s crazy in the amount of weight in that time period. How many signs were you lifting before? Lol. From a legitimately caring perspective, get that shit back on track!

Or maybe you were so depressed at the old job
You weren’t eating and your supposed to be sub 190lbs lol!

[sonick]

Do your past customers even recognize you when they come back when their lease was up? Lol jk but fr agree with the health converns that's crazy.

[underscore]

So what do you guys do to cut weight when you're not *too* far off from where you should be? Long story short I should be 150-160ish, now I'm at 185. Everything I see is for people trying to drop more than that/have already dropped more than that and are just trying to continue on for the last 20lbs.

[68style]

No sugars, less processed food and don't eat past 9pm... you'll lose it in a couple months if you're strict on that.

[mikemhg]

60lbs in the span of a little over a year is a lot, a fuckton lot.

Clearly your eating habits have changed, you certainly need to get on top of that.

I do hope the stress of this job hasn't been the causation of that rapid weight gain, because if so, you might need to reconsider some things there.

[Teriyaki]

60lbs in the span of a little over a year is a lot, a fuckton lot.

Clearly your eating habits have changed, you certainly need to get on top of that.

I do hope the stress of this job hasn't been the causation of that rapid weight gain, because if so, you might need to reconsider some things there.

Agreed. That is a massive change. Curious if you've gotten any professional opinion on overall health on it?

My biggest fluctuation was about 30lbs drop over a course of a year. It was so noticible that some of my friends were concerned I had contracted some disease or health was in jeopardy. Cant imagine one twice that amount.

[supafamous]

So what do you guys do to cut weight when you're not *too* far off from where you should be? Long story short I should be 150-160ish, now I'm at 185. Everything I see is for people trying to drop more than that/have already dropped more than that and are just trying to continue on for the last 20lbs.

I think the key to maintaining a healthy weight and being healthy in general is to marry someone (or have a side piece) who is active and healthy. I'm sorta kidding but I see the friends who married someone active and healthy and they naturally become active and healthy as well.

OTOH, I married someone who is largely sedentary (who can't cook) while I'm also a fairly sedentary person (who loves to cook and eat) and, surprise, surprise, we don't exercise much and each pretty rich food.

The other option is to find a hot young girlfriend so you're suddenly motivated to get into shape.

[68style]

Well, we know which route supa is going :ifyouknow:

[bcrdukes]

I hope his wife is not on RS :lol

Edit: Updated signature

[68style]

If he shows up to the next N00b meet all chiseled, we'll know what's up

[Badhobz]

Hey you guys are mean to dark ! So what if he put on a little weight. Don’t fat shame him !

Take it from a life long fat fuck

[dark0821]

hahaha thanks for the concerns guys...

No, just 100% down to my bad eating habit, I was at one point 220LBs almost a decade ago, went to do blood work, 30 yrs old, and have the three highs (high cholesterol, high blood pressure, high blood sugar)... my doc just told me

Fuck son, you are frikkin 30

I can put you on meds, but you have to realize these meds once you start, you can't stop, and these drugs have some fucked up side effects. Most people start them when they are already in their senior years, so when the side effects catches up, you are already in your 90s or whatever...

You need to get your shit together

So I lost 90 lbs over a year and a little bit, just what everyone said
- cut sugar
- don't drink
- no eating after 6pm

I went from waist 40 to 28 for my pants

Now I am getting fat again LOL, and I realize losing weight is way harder when you are almost 40... holy fook.... but will try again to lose weight....because my Canada Goose is XS, and I cant afford to buy a second one lololol, all jokes aside, I can feel myself just being unhealthy, I do want to get in shape again....

So why don't we make it a challenage to give me motivation, it is July 23rd today, lets see where I am come Xmas time.

This is me today

https://i.imgur.com/mNsjPyj.jpeg

This is where I want to be again!

https://i.imgur.com/RwCQVSq.jpeg

Please bump every month and give me shit if I am not losing weight...

[RabidRat]

I'm in too. I gained a bunch of weight flying to Montreal every week lol. Need to drop probably 10-15.

[EvoFire]

129lbs is too little for you though, I would say it would be healthy at 140-150

[dark0821]

129lbs is too little for you though, I would say it would be healthy at 140-150

You are right sir, I think I was happiest 140LB +/-5 LBs and I think that is where 90% of my wardrobe fits as well...

the 129LBs was wild though, you have to realize that photo was fully clothed in winter... the 182 just now was just T-shirt + boxers lol

[supafamous]

Please bump every month and give me shit if I am not losing weight...

Just go work at the Porsche dealer across from you - the ladies there seem a lot more "motivating" based on their staff photos.

[68style]

I'm about 184 right now as well... I can't remember your height though, I'm 183cm so it's about right for me with some muscle... 170-175 if I'm being donk

[donk.]

Leave donk out of this, wheres GS8 at

Donk has weight gaining issues Sadge

Its a curse and a blessing

[underscore]

I think the key to maintaining a healthy weight and being healthy in general is to marry someone (or have a side piece) who is active and healthy. I'm sorta kidding but I see the friends who married someone active and healthy and they naturally become active and healthy as well.

My wife was always more active and healthy than me but since kids we've lost the time for basically all of our hobbies, let alone the healthy ones. On top of that I went from a low-stress, semi-physical job to a higher-stress WFH desk job.

I already don't eat much sugar, barely drink, trimmed down my breakfast, cut most of the evening snacks and we cook most of our own meals but I think it's daytime carby snacks that are getting me. It's way too easy for me to stress/boredom eat something "small" when I'm working since I'm at home.

So why don't we make it a challenage to give me motivation, it is July 23rd today, lets see where I am come Xmas time.

I'm in too. I gained a bunch of weight flying to Montreal every week lol. Need to drop probably 10-15.

Time for an RS weight-loss accountability thread? July 23 - Dec 23 is 5 months. Dec 24/25 will be mulligan days so see how we can do before then.

[EvoFire]

Cut the carbs, cut the sugary drinks and adding just a little more exercise would make a huge difference.

Riding your motorcycle instead of driving would probably make a difference as well.

I'm 180cm, and being rather largish for a Chinese guy, if I am working out regularly 170-180lbs would be normal for me. I was 175lbs right before covid as I had a cushy job, there was a work gym that I went to everyday before lunch, and ate a healthy cooked at home diet.

During covid I switched jobs to a higher stress job, and zero heavy weight workouts and I dropped to 150lbs in the middle of it.

I'm hovering around 160-165lbs now but my fitness has taken a nose dive.

[supafamous]

Time for an RS weight-loss accountability thread? July 23 - Dec 23 is 5 months. Dec 24/25 will be mulligan days so see how we can do before then.

Oh great, a thread full of shirtless photos taken in the bathroom of each of us posted weekly as proof of our weight loss efforts. Enough man boobs for Hobz to get permanent erectile dysfunction. Who says No to this?