[TOS'd]

https://twitter.com/RoyalFamily/status/1567928275913121792

The Prince of Wales becomes king immediately, though his official coronation will not take place for some time.

Live updating thread:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2022/sep/08/queen-elizabeth-ii-dies-royals-monarchy-latest-news-updates

[Hondaracer]

Came down hard after being propped up for the Jubilee

RIP Diana’s murderer

[pastarocket]

Rest In Peace, Your Majesty. FeelsBadMan

I am just speculating that perhaps the death of Prince Philip took a big toll on the Queen's health? A death of a spouse can take a big toll on a person's life.

Both the Queen and Prince Phillip, the Duke of Edinburgh, were married for a long, long time.


Charles is finally a King!

[Manic!]

Party time!!!

[CivicBlues]

King Charles III. Sounds so....medieval. EleGiggle

Say what you want about the Monarch (I'm against it fwiw), but she was an extraordinary woman.

[sonick]

https://media.giphy.com/media/7k2LoEykY5i1hfeWQB/giphy.gif

[blkgsr]

ya whether you liked them or not (i never really cared) she's really the last of the "old" monarchs. Thailand was the last one.

From here on out, even less people will give a shit about them. even more just large land and business holders

[AzNightmare]

RIP.

[68style]

Amazing woman, unfair to pin dislike of the monarchy on her.

A tragic loss.

[pastarocket]

Interesting. A long formal process is followed before Charles becomes the King of England:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/formal-steps-after-instant-shift-from-uk-queen-to-king/2022/09/08/f2074082-2f9d-11ed-bcc6-0874b26ae296_story.html

Within 24 hours of a monarch’s death, a new sovereign is proclaimed formally as soon as possible at St. James’s Palace in London by the “Accession Council.” This is made up of officials from the Privy Council, which includes senior Cabinet ministers, judges and leaders of the Church of England, who are summoned to the palace for the meeting.

Parliament is then recalled for lawmakers to take their oaths of allegiance to the new monarch.

— The new monarch will swear an oath before the Privy Council in St. James’s Palace to maintain the Church of Scotland, according to the Act of Union of 1707.

— The proclamation of the new sovereign is then publicly read out at St. James’s Palace, as well as in Edinburgh, Cardiff and Belfast – the capital cities of the four nations that make up the United Kingdom.

— Charles must declare to Parliament on the first day of its session following the accession, or at the coronation, whichever is first, that he is a faithful Protestant. The oath is mandated by the Accession Declaration Act of 1910.

— He must also take a coronation oath as prescribed by the Coronation Oath Act of 1689, the Act of Settlement of 1701 and the Accession Declaration Act.

— He must be in communion with the Church of England, a flexible rule which allowed King George I and King George II to reign even though they were Lutherans.

[El Bastardo]

Rest in Peace.

[sonick]

tbh, I am not sure what I am supposed to feel about this, or what impact she has had on the current society. I am neither happy nor sad about it.

[sdubfid]

Do we get new coins?

[68style]

Party time!!!

LOL I usually support your viewpoints, but you stated yourself that your family came here for a better life... and from all accounts you've done very well and greatly improved your family's prospects and guess what this country is based on? British law and the monarchy.

Now you hate on the system your own family flourished within?

Talk about being unappreciative.

[CivicBlues]

I guess it's not as simple as "The Queen is dead, long live the King". But then it can't really go any other way.

[meme405]

London Bridge is Down.

[CivicBlues]

Everybody, burn your $20 bills they're worthless now!

[MG1]

Namo Amida Bustu.

Her portrait hung proudly in the halls of every school - probably not now. I am a bit of an Empire Loyalist. In the end, she is a person like you and me. Just happened to be born into that position. She took on the role and did a fantastic job. Actually, my favourite British Monarch was Queen Victoria.

Hopefully, she died peacefully and with the grace of a queen.

[Manic!]

Amazing woman, unfair to pin dislike of the monarchy on her.

A tragic loss.

If she wanted to be Amazing she should have renounced the royal family, stop taking the 80 to 100 million her family gets from tax payers every year, return all the stuff her family has stolen and not protect her pedofile son.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02D2T3wGCYg

[68style]

That's such a stupid take, 80-100M is how much of the British economy? For something that's super important to their entire world-wide image as a country... engrained into the very seeds of their culture?

She is/was a massive source of national pride and guidance to the entire nation.

Try thinking of it more as a business that instills a national identity into the entire country (something Canada is distinctly missing mind you, which has allowed for insurgent groups to come in and try to stake their claim to our flag) and it costs pennies on the dollar compared to various war initiatives and numerous other quite unhelpful things.

[68style]

UK government spent 1053 billion $ in 20/21

100 mill to the royal family?

Nevermind the royal family generated an estimated $30 billion dollars a year

Pretty fuckin sweet deal I'd say... spend 100 mill get 30 billion back? :)

[MG1]

68style...........

don't know you at all, but thanks for always seeing the big picture.

[pastarocket]

The economic return for England is one thing. Saying some bad about a deceased person and his/her family is another.

Yes, people are entitled to their opinions about the Royal Family. Freedom of expression. It's a free country.

It's something entirely different to say something bad another person and family, especially about a person who passed away.

A person who cannot defend herself from other's people's opinions about her because she is dead.

Pretty evil, in my opinion.

I don't think the English royals give a rat's ass about the opinions of us commoners from Canada anyway ahahah.

I am curious about one thing. Did the Queen have any interest in certain vehicles?

Did she drive Range Rovers when she was able to drive?

[Hondaracer]

CiQXV2_JQR0

Fuck how do you post instagram posts here.. never works

[threezero]

The queen was older than sliced bread, antiboiotics, scotch tape, traffic lights, frozen food, bubble gum, and the ball point pen.

Fucking crazy. What a life she had

[ilovebacon]

96 years old is a pretty good time, i hope she enjoyed it.

[Rallydrv]

stopped giving a shit about monarchy way back in 2010. so there

[Manic!]

LOL I usually support your viewpoints, but you stated yourself that your family came here for a better life... and from all accounts you've done very well and greatly improved your family's prospects and guess what this country is based on? British law and the monarchy.

Now you hate on the system your own family flourished within?

Talk about being unappreciative.

Her family colonized the country of my parents birth killing over 35 million. The rail roads in India where built so they could export everything they stole.

Fuck this bitch and her family. I hope she rots in hell.

[yray]

worked till the last day

RIP

[Manic!]

The economic return for England is one thing. Saying some bad about a deceased person and his/her family is another.

Yes, people are entitled to their opinions about the Royal Family. Freedom of expression. It's a free country.

It's something entirely different to say something bad another person and family, especially about a person who passed away.

A person who cannot defend herself from other's people's opinions about her because she is dead.

Pretty evil, in my opinion.



So I guess People should not say bad things about Hitler either.

[68style]

Her family colonized the country of my parents birth killing over 35 million. The rail roads in India where built so they could export everything they stole.

Fuck this bitch and her family. I hope she rots in hell.

Uh, that was done almost 70 years before she was even born... and it's her fault?

[JDMDreams]

^^^ lol well ppl say everything is Trudeaus fault:pokerface: but yea sad, hopefully we get a national Day off to mourn

[MarkyMark]

Fuck this bitch and her family. I hope she rots in hell.

Please though, tell us how you really feel

[PeanutButter]

What a sad day. I'm a royal fan because of my mother, so I've always had some sense of respect for the Royal family.

RIP

that being said, I think some of you are right, I don't think King Charles will have the same effect on future generations. The Queen might be the last great monarch

[pastarocket]

...Anyways, I found an answer to my question about what kinds of vehicles QE II drove during her reign as a monarch.

The Queen liked to drive off road. -served as a mechanic during WW 2.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/here-s-what-queen-elizabeth-drove-during-her-70-year-reign-and-these-are-her-favorites-181079.html

She is the only person in Britain who doesn’t need a driver’s license, but the Queen has vast driving experience since she served as a mechanic and driver during World War II.

Prior to the two Bentley state limousines which she received in 2002 to mark her Golden Jubilee, she had two Rolls-Royce Phantom V State Limousines from the early 1960s, which she used until the turn of the millennium.

She was the first person to receive a luxurious Bentley Bentayga in 2017, a promise the British luxury carmaker made back in 2015.

Her Majesty also seems to have a liking for Vauxhall motors, owning a Cresta PA Friary Estate, and a Cresta PC, which she drove in the late 1960s.

She drove a Daimler Empress MKII and a Double Six LWB, a 1954 Lagonda 3-liter Drophead Coupe, which was Prince PhilipÂ’s car, a 1955 Rolls-Royce Phantom IV State Landaulette, of which the British luxury company made only 18 units.

When the Royal Couple started having children, the Queen got a Ford Zephyr Estate as a family car. When driving around London, she liked to get behind the wheel of a Rover. The Queen owned a Rover saloon and a 1974 P5B.

Most recently, the Royal Family seems to have found a liking for Jaguars, and one of the most recent cars the Queen drove was a Jaguar X-Type, which is far from being a new car.

Her favorite brand, though? Surprisingly enough, Her Majesty seems to be a fan of Land Rover. She drove the Series I at the start of her reign, which was one of her first cars, in the 1950s, and the Series III in 1978, which sold in 2012 with less than 2,000 miles on the clock.

What is believed to be her ultimate favorite is the Land Rover Defender 110. It was specially designed for shooting parties and it came with a 4.2-liter V8 engine and a long-wheelbase. The vehicle was auctioned in 2014, and, in the glovebox, there was a shooting map and shotgun cartridges.

So, despite all her impressive wealth, when getting behind the wheel, Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II liked the thrill of the off-road.

[Manic!]

Uh, that was done almost 70 years before she was even born... and it's her fault?

She benefited from everything they stole including the Kohinoor diamond. She could have ended the royal family but she didn't.

You may think her family is better than your but it's not better than mine.

[68style]

Yes I’m sure nobody in your family ever did anything wrong and that if you ever find out they did anything wrong you’ll immediately close your family business, annex from them and declare yourself independent of any predecessors.

[Hondaracer]

I tend to agree with Manic overall that Monarchy is up there with the Catholic Church as the worst entities that have ever existed.

I’d argue both make the nazis look like Boy Scouts

[Manic!]

Yes I’m sure nobody in your family ever did anything wrong and that if you ever find out they did anything wrong you’ll immediately close your family business, annex from them and declare yourself independent of any predecessors.

No one in my family is responsible for killing 35 million people.

Here are 3 bothers in the US related to Hitler. The had nothing to do with WW2 but all 3 have decided not to have kids so the bloodline will end.

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/24/world/americas/24iht-web.0424hitlers.html

She could have done so much to right the wrongs of her family but she did nothing. In this day and age royal family's should not exist.

[threezero]

For what its worth this is probabaly last significnat British Monarch with any relevance.

Charles will never live up to his mother. This could be beginning of the end for this Monarchy

[Hondaracer]

It’s time to cut ties with them.

Everything aside I do admire her. If the crown and other media portrays her even half of the reality there’s probably never been another person in history who “stuck to her guns” as long as she did lol.. Monarchy4Life

https://i.imgur.com/IZBD5MT.jpg

[68style]

Well everything you have today and the country you live in is a direct result of that evil regime… should probably just end ourselves for being a product of their decisions.

If only they were more forward thinking like India always has been.

[Hondaracer]

You mean the genocide of our ancestral brothers the First Nations?!?!

:hotbaby:

[pastarocket]

There have always been evil regimes in the history of humanity. Does it mean that I have harbour hate towards all of them? Is there a personal connection between me, my family, and the English royals? Hell no.

Yes, the British and their colonizing ways under their old empire fucked up a lot of countries.

I am a Canadian born Chinese guy. Does it mean I have to show hate towards the British monarchy because the Brits had a direct hand in hurting China with the Opium War, and taking Hong Kong away from China as their colony?

Why would I harbour hatred and ill will towards the British monarchy for historical events that are way beyond my control?

If you wanna discuss about evil regimes, what about other regimes today?

The British monarchy and Nazis are BOY SCOUTS compared to other governments today in terms of how much bloodshed and people are killed in the name of protecting freedoms and rights, democracy.

The US government for example. Wars by proxy with the Russians now during this Russia and Ukraine War. Wars in Afghanistan. Vietnam War. The list goes on and on with the kind of shit the American government has done and is doing now.

Does that mean I need to hate the American government too??

What about the Japanese government? Think about what the Japanese Imperial army did against China during WW 2. Genocide. Killing and raping of civilians. War crimes.

Am I supposed to hate Japan too because of what Japan did to my ancestors??

Hate just eats up your heart.

[Manic!]

What timing. A punk show that happened last night in Toronto.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUYYwWXNNUw

[GS8]

https://www.vmcdn.ca/f/files/richmondnews/images/obituary-images/queen-elizabeth-massey-tunnel.jpg

She opened the George Massey tunnel back in 1951

Anyway, I'm glad she lived her life till the end. She obviously had the best medical care you can get. Monarch won't be the same without her. She assumed the reign at 25 years old so she's been a public figure for a looong time. It's no surprise it's a big deal.

Not everyone gets the good end of the stick in life. There's people who have died by the millions in our lifetime and will continue to do so. Bitch about the past all you want, but geez, start doing something about now to avoid the cycle repeating. Human suffering will always be a continuous event. If you wanna be a bystander, that's fine. You're perfectly at home on the keyboard anyway.

[Badhobz]

that old bat was pretty cool.. liked cars, worked as a mechanic during WWII

had a pretty regal wave too.

Nothing like old BRITISH money made off the suffering of numerous peoples around the world. Also, like most monarchs today, does absolutely fucking nothing worth a shit. A glorified figurehead. Rest in peace Liz, now get the fuck off our money. Can we get some REAL CANADIANS plz. Terry fox on the quarter makes more sense this.

[68style]

What timing. A punk show that happened last night in Toronto.


Ironic that someone who purports to be constantly fighting hate harbours so much inside... like GS8 said, be the change you want to see

[Manic!]

https://twitter.com/roun_sa_ville/status/1567853458581032960

[Gumby]

Wow, Manic is showing an unhealthy amount of hate for this lady...

[whitev70r]

Somehow, I knew this thread would have turned this way. Either 'the Queen is symbol of colonialism' ... or, 'she's the best monarch we've had in history'.

[StylinRed]

Did the Queen ever speak out against any atrocities going on around the world? Apartheid? African Genocides? Indigenous matters in Canada or Australia? Uighur Genocide? Rhoingya genocide? Any genocide? The UK joining in the Iraq invasions?

Or did she just keep her mouth shut like the UK govt expected her to?

I don't understand the love for her, since well, she didnt do anything except stand around n smile (as she was expected to do) but RiP, I thought she would outlive Charles

Edit: she represented the UK and all it upholds, so to say people should disassociate her from Colonialism (the essence of the UK) isnt fair, but in doing so we have to look at the person and what she did, but all she did was stand around and wave as atrocities occurred before her

[Manic!]

If people want to know why I hate the royal family.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_jGPf764d0

[ilovebacon]

wtf, i just learned that she married her cousin..

[whitev70r]

3rd cousin ... if that makes any difference.

[Badhobz]

Indians have a long seated hatred of the british for all the years of exploitations during their colonial rule.

Now replace Indians with south africans, jamaicans, chinese, and pretty much all the indigenous people under British colonial rule and you got generations of people ready to piss on this old lady's grave.

but that being said, the past is the past. we cant harbor ancient grudges and bring them into our daily lives. it doesnt make any sense.

[68style]

It's all relative... I just know I grew up here and I've been to England 5 times, have some relatives there, and the best, most loving, open-minded, caring and endearing / inspirational people I've ever known in my life were devout royalists.

There was even a point in my life when I was angry at the world that, amongst other things, I was actively shouting to end the monarchy, that it's such trash and a waste of time and has no place in today's world... but then I saw how much it inspires some people and how just a speech from her can literally calm an entire nation and I could understand that sometimes tradition and figureheads are of vital importance to both identity and the social fabric.

I think the Pope is a waste of time too, but I'm not religious so why would I understand? Better to just keep my opinion to myself. I have also never been to India, nor did I grow up there, so I can never really understand that sentiment either though I can obviously understand how that time in history was cruel and unfair to pretty much everywhere in the world India included.

I guess she could have said more, but then I'm sure she would have been criticized for not doing enough no matter what she said or did.

Nobody has a time machine to go back and undo what was done. She did a hell of a lot more in her life than I (or anyone on here for that matter) ever did or ever will do, she didn't just stand around waving her hand like someone said above -- need to take some time to get educated if that's what anyone thinks.

There's a whole hell of a lot more wrong in the world today that's more important than the royal family, which, let's face it, is still around because they make a lot of money for the country. It's quite far down the list of things that need "fixing" I think... and even less relevant now with her gone.

[Great68]

Are we going to start getting pictures of Charles on our money now?

:heckno:

[rb]

Watched this a few yrs ago. An interesting documentary...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsVzDf-KhXU

[donk.]

Her family colonized the country of my parents birth killing over 35 million. The rail roads in India where built so they could export everything they stole.

Fuck this bitch and her family. I hope she rots in hell.

Im with manic, people need to stop circlejerking celebrities that are famous for being famous

[Badhobz]

this is unreasonable though manic. did she do all this crap to you or your family directly? or it that the sins of her ancestors. How long can we hold this grudge for?

this is a HUGE problem one of the biggest cause of social divide. Looks at the whole sunni-shia divide or the chinese circle jerking around the whole japanese wwii stuff, or the jews and the holocaust. yeah all these are terrible events, but at some point we gotta move on and see that the people who perpetuated these crimes are long dead and their decedents cannot be blamed for the actions of the past.

[El Bastardo]

We can all give Manic! the W or whatever on this one for winning the thread and move on. I've never seen him shit on Churchill, who took a much more direct role in harming the Indian people, but the Queen who died is the target of his ire and we can all see how impassioned he is. Lets pull the $20s out of our wallet this evening and take a big steaming shit on them.

In any case, the British "Empire" transitioned into a Commonwealth of Nations during her life and was emboldened during her reign. The colonies which once were became independent nations who are strategic partners. Rather than continue the cruelty shown by monarchs like Leopold and Alfonso, she took the role of the crown and shaped into a moderate position that existed along side elected government, existing in the spirit of that which the Magna Carta was meant to mean.


The Monarchy continued only because of her popularity during a time of massive social change and I honestly believe we will see the UK or Canada turn into a Republic during our lifetimes because everyone who comes after her will fail to garner the respect for the Crown she had been able to maintain... even through the UK economic downturn in the 70s, and The Troubles in Ireland, and the UK's diminishing power following the Suez Crisis.

[unit]

wtf, i just learned that she married her cousin..

i have a friend whose parents are first cousins, hes persian and apparently the practice is not taboo in iran. he's also one of the most intelligent people i know in many regards

[Manic!]

We can all give Manic! the W or whatever on this one for winning the thread and move on. I've never seen him shit on Churchill, who took a much more direct role in harming the Indian people, but the Queen who died is the target of his ire and we can all see how impassioned he is. Lets pull the $20s out of our wallet this evening and take a big steaming shit on them.




Don't get me started on Churchill.

this is unreasonable though manic. did she do all this crap to you or your family directly? or it that the sins of her ancestors. How long can we hold this grudge for?

this is a HUGE problem one of the biggest cause of social divide. Looks at the whole sunni-shia divide or the chinese circle jerking around the whole japanese wwii stuff, or the jews and the holocaust. yeah all these are terrible events, but at some point we gotta move on and see that the people who perpetuated these crimes are long dead and their decedents cannot be blamed for the actions of the past.

We literally have people in Canada and the USA marching with Nazi flags and you want Jews to forget?


I will forget as soon as Christians forget about some guy dying 5000 years ago supposedly for my sins. But really they can start buy returning many of the things they stole. Looks like the crown holding the kohinoor diamond that was stolen from India will be going to Camilla who is now queen from what I understand.

[Great68]

Kind of ironic that your family would have had to swear an oath to the queen when they immigrated here to become Canadian Citizens.

[punkwax]

You’ve made your point, Manic. Now stfu.

RIP to the Queen

[underscore]

I can see why a lot of people hate the monarchy (and the pope too since he was mentioned). Sure they didn't personally do all the horrible things, but they're the figurehead of the legacy of a lot of horrible things so you can't just sit there and take all the benefits of that without taking some flack for what gave it to you.

And I mean yeah the royal family technically brings in more than they cost, but that's only because of all the shit their family stole in the past. Without them the country would still make that much but without any cost.

She is the only person in Britain who doesn’t need a driver’s license,

She might be the only one who doesn't need a license, but a lot of people in Britain around her age who had licenses never took a driving test. They didn't have time for them during WWII, so after it ended if you were over driving age and said you had been driving a farm truck or tractor for more than 6 months they just gave you a license lol.

[Manic!]

The Irish celebrating the Queen's death at a football game.

https://mirror.archiveddit.com/reddit/post/29379

[Manic!]

Kind of ironic that your family would have had to swear an oath to the queen when they immigrated here to become Canadian Citizens.

They did a lot of things they didn't want to do. They actually lived in England first.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/alberta/article-swearing-an-oath-to-the-queen-violation-of-religious-freedoms-as-sikh/

Swearing an oath to the Queen a violation of religious freedoms, prospective lawyer says in lawsuit

A prospective lawyer in Edmonton is suing the provincial government and Law Society of Alberta for requiring him to swear an oath to the Queen to practise law, arguing that the rule violates his religious freedoms as a Sikh.

[Great68]

Well, I mean they could have said "fuck you I ain't swearing no oath to that bitch" during the process at the time, but I guess that sweet sweet citizenship was just too tasty and they forgot all that.

[Badhobz]

unlike manic, his parents probably arent as salty about the whole thing. im pretty sure if they were as salty as manic, they wouldn't have moved to a England. They did it so their kids could have a better life than back home.

colonalism sucks, yah yah, whatever, our shit aint so great right now either as poor Evofire wanna kill himself cuz central bank upped the rates. every system sucks and every system has its merits.

[PeanutButter]

So much hate Manic....

She did her duty. She never asked to be queen. There has to be some level of respect for that.

It's always easy to cast stones.

[underscore]

:facepalm:

[Manic!]

So much hate Manic....

She did her duty. She never asked to be queen. There has to be some level of respect for that.

It's always easy to cast stones.

She could have always resigned and gotten a job. Did she really need all those houses and land?

unlike manic, his parents probably arent as salty about the whole thing. im pretty sure if they were as salty as manic, they wouldn't have moved to a England. They did it so their kids could have a better life than back home.

colonalism sucks, yah yah, whatever, our shit aint so great right now either as poor Evofire wanna kill himself cuz central bank upped the rates. every system sucks and every system has its merits.

Well, I mean they could have said "fuck you I ain't swearing no oath to that bitch" during the process at the time, but I guess that sweet sweet citizenship was just too tasty and they forgot all that.

Many immigrants did things they did not want to do just to put food on the table. Many Sikhs cut there hair just to get a job.

People all over the world are celebrating her death.

Argentina:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BF2vKEiMtQ
Read the sub titles

Ireland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llIqVI3T2uY

https://i.redd.it/vbirg5a4cqm91.jpg

https://www.newsweek.com/queen-elizabeth-dead-ireland-india-commonwealth-republic-1741243

Much of the world has reacted in sadness to the passing of Queen Elizabeth II but there are some people who are, in fact, celebrating.

People in countries formerly controlled by Britain, such as India, Ireland, Australia and Nigeria, were quick to point out the monarchy's role in the subjugation of their countries.









Sikh perspective.


We're talking about the people who came, had to cowardly rely on the political instability of our nation and espionage to conquer us since they were unable to fight like real men (look at Battle of Challianwala and Battle of Ramnagar).

We were living perfectly good lives, but they had this delusion, this egoistic delusion that them governing us would somehow make us better, when the fact is

* We had higher literacy rates than them, Ranjit Singh's rule was reported to have seen rates of 70% for both men and women, England in 1840 had 50% for women and 67% for men
* We were in some ways more technologically advanced, with higher grade artillery in our military than they had
* We had abolished the death penalty, something they didn't accomplish until 1964
* We've been not only allowing, but encouraging women in the army since the time of Guru Gobind Singh Ji (1666-1708), they only made it legal in 1950.
* We've been anti-slavery since Guru Nanak Dev Ji's time (1469-1539), something they only managed to do in 1807

But all of these were lost because of their cowardly exploitation and dishonorable violation of the Treaty of Amritsar that they signed with Ranjit Singh.

* Our literacy rates decreased
* We had to live under the death penalty
* They tried to auction off the Darbar Sahib
* Kidnapped Duleep Singh
* Forcibly changed our religion
* Helped plan Operation Blue Star.

So yeah, no respect to her whatsoever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1iflvFs0L8

[Great68]

So they were forced to come to Canada and become Canadian Citizens?

[Manic!]

So they were forced to come to Canada and become Canadian Citizens?

Like a lot of immigrants they did what they had to do.



https://twitter.com/Aldanimarki/status/1567861794605043712

[StylinRed]

i have a friend whose parents are first cousins, hes persian and apparently the practice is not taboo in iran. he's also one of the most intelligent people i know in many regards

Asians are into it, Chinese, Indian, Japanese, etc not as much today as our parents generation but that's not long ago, heck even Americans back in the early 1900s

[whitev70r]

If you think Elizabeth didn't do enough to begin the process of decolonialization ... forget the idea that the next King will lift his pinky in this area. All things point to him being an old school racist.

[Traum]

I am profoundly sad that Queen Elizabeth has died. As someone hailing from Hong Kong, the Queen represented an era where Hong Kong was at its finest.

While Charles will ascend to the throne very soon, I honestly wonder how long he will remain there. As I understand it, he is not especially popular among Britons to put it mildly, but William & Kate are the new Royal darlings. I know that if I were Charles, I would only want to hang on to the throne for as short a time as possible, and pass it on to William as soon as he is ready / willing to do so.

[danned]

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[supafamous]

Don't hate the player, hate the game. Elizabeth wasn't the coloniser but she inherited a lot of the benefits and while she didn't renounce all of those benefits she certainly didn't impede progress and generally made progress especially considering that she never truly had any real power - her power was all of gentle influence.

Her life is one that very few of us could have lived or imagined - she was a mechanic during WWII!

I'll miss her.

[Hehe]

First of all... RIP to the Queen. She was truly an inspiring figure in many aspects and one of the many things I took to heart when I became a Canadian citizen.

Now, I think for all the people who hate the Queen in this thread... seriously... STFU and go.

You might not agree with what she has done in the nearly 100yrs of her life and the 70yrs in reign as Queen, she has just passed away and I think it's the least of human decency to have a little respect for someone who just passed away.

Regarding what she could have or hasn't done, who are we to judge? For godsake... you aren't even a semen by the time those decisions were made. And take a more positive view in your fucking life. The claim that she did shit about colonialism doesn't hold a candle. She was THE monarch who oversaw the de-colonization. Could she have done better? Perhaps... based on all the values that humans only evolved to learn long after. Focus on the things she did FOR humanity instead of holding a grudge for things she did against.

Let me put it this way if we had a time machine and go back to the early years of say... US independence... and you shout end of slavery for freedom and human rights, you'd be hung for conspiracy to sedition and interfering with other people's property. Your ideology now is "right" based on the collective wisdom and development of the human race throughout time, and not because it was right.

She did what she knew back then. To be judging her for something she did long ago based on today's values is wrong and especially today, which is the day she passed.

You want to discuss about what she did, whether right or wrong, I think you can create another thread at another time. But to come in, and post here on the day of her passing just show the level of human decency you have. Even Trump had the decency to remark on the great achievement that Justice Ginsburgh accomplished upon learning of her passing. And they were in the opposite of ideologies.

[JDMDreams]

Sure there were skeletons in the closet or dirt under the rug but what country or politician doesn't? Just look at the trump shit show in the States. She ruled for 70 years, longer than some people's lives and she was still able to keep the royal image and keep up with the times without pissing it away in embarrassment in the cancel culture we have now. Everyone is a snowflake now.

If they didn't colonize Canada, nothing now would have existed. This might be a French country? It's just how the world works, just look at US trying to stay relevant shitting on Russia, banning China from advancing their tech, stirring shit up with Taiwan. Don't hate the game, money makes the world go round just depends on which side of the game you're on. FeelsBadMan

[Manic!]

I can't believe so many people are simping for some old dead white lady. She spend millions of tax payer dollars paying off the victims of her pedo son. Wonder why he is not in jail. The only one with a half of a brain in the family is Harry because he left.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/02/buckingham-palace-banned-ethnic-minorities-from-office-roles-papers-reveal

Buckingham Palace banned ethnic minorities from office roles, papers reveal


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/queen-tried-to-use-state-poverty-fund-to-heat-buckingham-palace-2088179.html

Queen tried to use state poverty fund to heat Buckingham Palace
Ministers were asked if money earmarked for schools, hospitals and low-income families could be used to meet soaring fuel bills

[supafamous]

I can't believe so many people are simping for some old dead white lady.

She was pretty hot when she was young though.

[68style]

What does her race have to do with it? Okay to simp if she's not white?

[Gumby]

I am profoundly sad that Queen Elizabeth has died. As someone hailing from Hong Kong, the Queen represented an era where Hong Kong was at its finest.
Funny you say that! My dad, who also grew up in HK, said this earlier today:

I was growing up seeing her coronated while HKG was a British crowned colony so there is a bit of sadness in me; mind you I don't care for the monarchy and the rest of her family!

He was 6 at the time! For someone who can have an old-fashioned way of thinking at times, I’m glad he’s able to separate the person from the institution. I wish Manic could do the same.

[Manic!]

What does her race have to do with it? Okay to simp if she's not white?

Imagine your family is having a big family reunion at your house. People you don't know enter your house killing and raping most of your family taking all your valuables including a valuable painting. 120 years later one of your remaining ancestors goes to do some repair work at a mansion. The owner shows him the house and says this is a painting that's been in my family for over 100 years. Whats your relative going to say? That's cool my family use to own that painting until your family killed and rapped most of mine high fives for everyone.


Irish twitter is on fire: https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Irish+Twitter%22

[Mr.Money]

i don't really care.



unless she made your house payments personally, who is she?.. a positive person by the media?.



but it still seems bad to talk shit and spit on her grave by some of these meme's.

[GS8]

I can't believe so many people are simping for some old dead white lady. She spend millions of tax payer dollars paying off the victims of her pedo son. Wonder why he is not in jail. The only one with a half of a brain in the family is Harry because he left.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/02/buckingham-palace-banned-ethnic-minorities-from-office-roles-papers-reveal

Buckingham Palace banned ethnic minorities from office roles, papers reveal


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/queen-tried-to-use-state-poverty-fund-to-heat-buckingham-palace-2088179.html

Queen tried to use state poverty fund to heat Buckingham Palace
Ministers were asked if money earmarked for schools, hospitals and low-income families could be used to meet soaring fuel bills

People like you just make me laugh but not in a comedic way.

You prattle on from your ivory tower up there. You and so many living in the upper tiers of society brought on by social and economic wealth, thanks to opportunities presented to your family who then came here to have a better life and pursue the western dream (funny how the UK is as western as Canada / US are). People paved the way for their children who then paved the way for their children, kind of like how your family migrated here so you can have a safe prosperous life. It takes generations for a family to come from nothing and have everything. It takes sacrifice and motivation to bloom and show the world your potential.

But people like you will never be happy. You thrive on hate and you enjoy just being negative. For someone in your position in life, there's more to be grateful for instead of castrating others for their connection to someone / something that resonates with them, personally. You post your nonsensical articles and random 3rd rate tweets just to support your view but it all comes across as sanctimonious drivel that becomes inane.

Grow up already. History is mired in darkness but without the darkness, there's no light to shine through and help evolve our species. Slavery still exists but it was banned in many countries too. Why not help end slavery in the countries that still practice it?

Also, Yemen has a serious problem RIGHT NOW. Care to lend your hand in their liberation?

You can have any viewpoint you want! Don't like to queen? That's fine. Love people you don't like rotting in Hell? Okay.

But when it comes to objective analysis and quantifiable information about the non-linear timeline of human evolution, you're not really fit to educate anyone on anything.

You should just put your Scholar hat down until Halloween.

https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2022/09/Britain_Queen_Elizabeth_II_44804-scaled.jpg

[Manic!]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRlqtxK5cO8

[68style]

You realize you’re doing exactly what all the Trump supporters do right? Just finding whatever nonsense videos with big block gotcha titles you can on various media to support you.

Could easily find just as many if not more videos and articles in support too.

Use your time better, this is below you.

[El Bastardo]

I can't believe so many people are simping for some old dead white lady.



Its weird that you include this bit. Are we seeing your biases emerge?

[sdubfid]

Its weird that you include this bit. Are we seeing your biases emerge?

man·ic
/ˈmanik/

adjective

showing wild, apparently deranged, excitement and energy.

[JDMDreams]

Let's also not forget she was a female leader, :ahwow: most countries still hasn't had a female leader, and women still can't get education, stoned to death cuz dishonour to family or can't even get an abortion. :facepalm:

[MarkyMark]

Imagine your family coming here with nothing, setting you up financially for generations and you just end up being some bitter internet troll lol

[EvoFire]

Did Manic just morph into CiC? That's an incredible level of hate.

I don't hold any positive or negative feelings towards her or the royalty. Even though I'm from HK I was too young to know or feel her influence there. I would say the British gov't made a bigger influence than anything in the time I've been alive. Although I agree colonialism was a dark time in human history, the British laws lay the foundation of order in many places in the world and our way of life right now is shaped by that.

Now I'm just curious what happens to our monies. She's been queen the whole time I've been alive and I am used to seeing her face on my monies.

[Badhobz]

Canadian mint will probably release some sort of commemorative coin in lizzys name. I might buy one for lawls. The ultimate coin coin !!

[Great68]

Like a lot of immigrants they did what they had to do.



So you're admitting they put aside their morals to live off the benefits of the commonwealth?

I mean there were other places in the world they could have moved to instead if they felt so hard done by.

I'm personally indifferent to the whole monarchy thing, I just like pointing out hypocrisy where I see it, regardless of what side of the argument it comes from.

[Hondaracer]

Don’t really get this whole notion of without the monarchy we wouldn’t have Canada lol

Without the monarchy, or if we had split from the monarchy far earlier like we should have we’d likely he a more independent state like the US is rather than riding the coat tails of some archaic system.

Again, people rail on about trump this trump that and spend all this energy on worrying about whether he is in jail or what’s in his home. The queen was a wayyyyy worse in terms of the power her influence had and turning a blind eye to events the monarchy had a direct impact on.

The monarchy as a whole is directly tied to Protestant beliefs. The whole reason for the monarchy is they are ordained by god for the lowly peasants to have somthing to look up to so their measly lives have some meaning lol, this is literally the reasoning for the monarchy.

With that said, virtually any conflict based in religion ie. the Irish troubles, is very much on the monarchy. A 30+ year ethnic war.

[supafamous]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/09/queen-elizabeth-death-trump-british-monarchy/671386/

I like this take of the monarchy and it's relevant to those who want to pin things on the Queen. The British monarchy has been little more than a figurehead for a long, long time and if you're going to be upset about colonisation (or all the other bad shit Europeans did) it's no on the Queen, it's on the governments.

Prince Harry and Megan have been pretty open about how the bureaucracy is what drove them away - they couldn't do their own thing and it's fairly clear that it's the same for the Queen and whoever is monarch that they wield little real power. As the article states, they're a prisoner.

[Great68]

Someone forget his history lessons? Manifest Destiny? War of 1812?

Independent state? No. Without Britain, Canada would have been a US state today.

[yray]

replace GOD with Queen in the states, and we are not that different

[Hondaracer]

Ffs these gifs ain’t working lol

[Hondaracer]

replace GOD with Queen in the states, and we are not that different

That’s an extremely low bar.

[pastarocket]

-just heard King Charles III speech.

Things that I heard:


Message of love, respect, and service to ALL people.

Message of unity and love in the Royal family.

-a shout out from Charles to Harry and Meghan about love from the King and other family members for them.

-a big Thank you to his Mama and Papa for their love towards him and his family. Charles thanked his Mama for her lifelong commitment of service to the UK and the nations of commonwealth.

-Charles pledge of lifelong service to Britain.

What ever opinions that we have of King Charles III, I think that the Brits will give him a chance to show what kind of King he is.

As expected, William receives the title of Prince of Wales and Duke of Cornwall from his Dad.

William and Kate are the Duke and Duchess of Cornwall and Cambridge.


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[El Bastardo]

Someone forget his history lessons? Manifest Destiny? War of 1812?

Independent state? No. Without Britain, Canada would have been a US state today.

tl;dr America bad



Y'all don't want to be a US state. Trust me. Say what you want about being exploited by the Crown or the British Empire, the United States will do it worse.

Canada remained independent from the United States because they had the power and backing of the British Empire. We developed independent of the United States who put all of their points in the "Industrialize" stat which cost them bigly resources and created an ongoing culture of exploitation which concentrated power at the top. Canada fed its points throughout the rest of its stats and used the "British Empire" buff to become part of advantageous trade deals which strengthened our economy (and population makeup) as a whole.

America wants to own. Own people, own territory, own influence, own hegemony. That's the goal.

Look at the Mexican-American war that saw it grab 1/4 of the territory it owns now. It took that land, irradiated it, bled its lakes dry, and in its infinite hubris created unnatural communities and farmland at the cost of the greater population's wellbeing.

Coming out of the War of 1812 it took the land of Florida from Spain and now we may get Disney World and funny news stories about methed-out losers riding alligators into grocery stores or whatever, we the place where modern cocaine (and crack) culture was born which has created a permanent blight on our society. They ignored the issue, and took bribes when they couldn't ignore it any longer, all for a few dollars profit. They drained the swampland to allow Al and Mildred Kettlefuck a chance at a "tropical paradise" instead of living in Shitstick, Iowa so now all of the hurricanes that hit the area are a bit stronger because there is no natural barrier to them.

America helped the Russian Imperials through the Alaska purchase because neither of them wanted the British Empire (through Canada) to get bigger and now straws are being rammed through every appropriate inch of the state to suck every drop of oil from beneath. "Thats business" you may say, but its not like the Exxon Valdez oil spill didn't soak our beaches in the shit too.


Canada has access to the same resources that America does. Farmland, oil, resource mining, timber, and they could have leaned more heavily into arms development if they so wanted... but they chose a different path. Designating land as owned by the Crown and creating a cumbersome process by which we can use what is around us has had an unintended benefit, and that benefit being one of the few (largely) uninfluenced nature reserves on Earth.


The British influence on Canada is obvious, and the sins of the UK in Canada are well known by all, but we need to acknowledge that the Crown and Empire allowed us to be who we are today instead of..... something else. I'm grateful for that.

[mikemhg]

It's odd, I honestly could give a flying fuck about the Queen or the Royal Family, however I'm actually a little sad today. For an entirely different reason though.

The Queen has been around throughout my entire life, as a child we learned about her in school, she's always been relevant to a degree. I remember my mother watching the family on TV as a kid.

People are making jokes online about her death, about how Princess Diana is waiting for her with an axe up in heaven, yadda yadda.

It saddens me how shit we've become in our culture. Everything is a dig nowadays, we're in constant attack mode, even when people are mourning.

Ultimately I'm not sad about the Queen's death, but more ones own mortality. A figure I remember since childhood is now dead, it is a reminder how life is finite, someone so part of colloquial culture is now gone, as we all will be.

[Hondaracer]

Yea like the discussion here is actually fairly civil compared to other forms of media lol..

El Bastardo, I kinda take issue with you making a big issue out of the US wanting to “own”
Different places and their need for that

I think most of Africa, parts of Asia, India, etc. would have somthing to say in terms of what the monarchy wanted out of them.. lol

[supafamous]

https://jalopnik.com/queen-elizabeth-ii-dead-the-gearhead-monarch-1849510494

I always like reading stories about how the Queen was a gearhead but particularly the part that she served in WWII as a mechanic. No one of her privilege needed to do that - she could easily have moved to Canada and hidden away but she chooses a thankless job and keeps living in London while it's getting bombed.

[pastarocket]

https://jalopnik.com/queen-elizabeth-ii-dead-the-gearhead-monarch-1849510494

I always like reading stories about how the Queen was a gearhead but particularly the part that she served in WWII as a mechanic. No one of her privilege needed to do that - she could easily have moved to Canada and hidden away but she chooses a thankless job and keeps living in London while it's getting bombed.


I was hoping that maybe those three dudes from the car show The Grand Tour invited the Queen to an episode one day to ask her about her car collection. LUL

Clarkson, Hammond, and "Captain Slow' James May talking with the Queen about cars haha.

[El Bastardo]

El Bastardo, I kinda take issue with you making a big issue out of the US wanting to “own”


Thats fine. I'm putting what has always been the American desire to conquer and exploit into context with the possibly of Canada becoming part of the United States.

I'll admit my bias against... well... who I'm speaking against... and also acknowledge that I come across a little "tinfoil hat" when talking about it.

[Manic!]

https://i.redd.it/xr8dh842bum91.jpg


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerissa_and_Katherine_Bowes-Lyon

In 1987, it was revealed that, despite the 1963 edition of Burke's Peerage listing Nerissa and Katherine as having died in 1940 and 1961, respectively,[1][3] the sisters were alive, and had been placed in Earlswood Hospital for mentally disabled people in 1941. In the terminology of the era, both were classified as "imbeciles", and neither learned to talk.[4] Nerissa died in 1986, aged 66, with only hospital staff attending the funeral,[4] while Katherine died in 2014, aged 86.[5] The sisters received no money from the family other than £125 paid to Earlswood each year.[4] Earlswood closed in 1997.

[CivicBlues]

Yes, we all saw that episode of the Crown.

I'm sure QEII had so much to do with their upbringing having been born after one of them and shorty before the other.

Don't you have anything better to do?

[Manic!]

Yes, we all saw that episode of the Crown.

I'm sure QEII had so much to do with their upbringing having been born after one of them and shorty before the other.

Don't you have anything better to do?

But what happened to all the money and land owned by their parents?

Philip DeFranco right on the money.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1O2aCfwjljw

[rb]

Manic, you're giving off some Chucky in charge vibes in this thread. Let it go man...

My 100% Chinese parents and family call India the homeland because of the Japanese (Nanking Massacre) but we're all here now, its okay. They can't hurt us anymore and my mom couldn't be happier driving her made in Japan Honda Fit.

Back on topic, QE was like the grandmother we're all use to seeing but never paying much attention to. Rest easy homie

[68style]

Mike said it best, the vitriol of people on social media platforms these days makes me so, so tired.

[threezero]

A whole lot of hate for what Lizzie represent as a member of the monarchy.

Not a whole lot has been said about what she personally stood for, her personall view whether political or not. Crazy to think at her death, we still only know her as the Queen.

To remain impartial, to even upheld this image of neutrality is extremely hard. To do that for 70years is pure class and respect. A feat even her own immediate family fail to do. Should she have taken side at any point in history? Sure, but its her job not to and you gotten give her respect for doing that.

[MarkyMark]

Don't you have anything better to do?

Maybe welfare will come back and his life will have purpose again

[inv4zn]

I just want to say, a youtube video should never be used as a "source" for an argument, whether in this context or others.

It instantly removes credibility. The only thing worse than youtube videos is memes.

[bobbinka]

https://100scopenotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Horse.jpg

[Badhobz]

Yarrrghhh that horse be high !

[Manic!]

I just want to say, a youtube video should never be used as a "source" for an argument, whether in this context or others.

It instantly removes credibility. The only thing worse than youtube videos is memes.

The youtube video is from one of the oldest newstubers and explains why so many people are happy she is dead.

Everything the Queen has is stolen. That 400 million dollar diamond on the crown was stolen from India.

https://i.imgur.com/fzo1fkN.jpg

[Traum]

Given how the Queen has been in public service for so long, I think most people who pay some attention to her and don't hate her guts have a general idea of what she stood for.

I was reading this following quote of hers yesterday or today, and I think it summed up who she viewed herself as:


"When I was 21, I pledged my life to the service of our people and I asked for God's help to make good that vow. Although that vow was made in my salad days, when I was green in judgement, I do not regret nor retract one word of it."

She knew that as the Queen of Britain and the Commonwealth, she is supposed to remain impartial and non-political, so that is what she did publically, and she kept the personal views out of the public's eyes.

She took her duty as the Queen as the single most important thing extremely seriously, and as you have said -- she did so unrelentingly for 70 yrs literally until the day she died.

There are certainly things about the Queen that I do not agree with. But I respect her for who she is, and how steadfast she has been all her life.

I have already said this earlier, but I will say it again -- I am not a Royal watcher, but I am profoundly sad that the Queen has died.
Not a whole lot has been said about what she personally stood for, her personall view whether political or not. Crazy to think at her death, we still only know her as the Queen.

To remain impartial, to even upheld this image of neutrality is extremely hard. To do that for 70years is pure class and respect. A feat even her own immediate family fail to do. Should she have taken side at any point in history? Sure, but its her job not to and you gotten give her respect for doing that.

[Traum]

I'm sure at least some of us have come across the following poem since it seems to be making the rounds through the Internet, but it is so beautifully written that I think I should post it here again:

Phillip came to me today,
and said it was time to go.
I looked at him and smiled,
as i whispered that "I know"

I then turned and looked behind me,
and seen I was asleep.
All my family were around me,
and I could hear them weep.

I gently touched each shoulder,
with Phillip by my side.
Then I turned away and walked,
With my angel guide.

Phillip held my hand,
as he lead the way,
to a world where Kings and Queens
Are Monarchs every day.

I was given a crown to wear
or a halo known by some.
The difference is, up here,
They are worn by everyone.

I felt a sense of peace,
My reign had seen its end.
70 years I had served my Country,
As the peoples' friend.

Thank you for the years,
For all your time and love.
Now I am one of two again,
In our Palace up above.

(supposedly) by Joanne Boyle

[sonick]

Given how the Queen has been in public service for so long, I think most people who pay some attention to her and don't hate her guts have a general idea of what she stood for.

I was reading this following quote of hers yesterday or today, and I think it summed up who she viewed herself as:



She knew that as the Queen of Britain and the Commonwealth, she is supposed to remain impartial and non-political, so that is what she did publically, and she kept the personal views out of the public's eyes.

She took her duty as the Queen as the single most important thing extremely seriously, and as you have said -- she did so unrelentingly for 70 yrs literally until the day she died.

There are certainly things about the Queen that I do not agree with. But I respect her for who she is, and how steadfast she has been all her life.

I have already said this earlier, but I will say it again -- I am not a Royal watcher, but I am profoundly sad that the Queen has died.

Not being facetious but from a place of ignorance knowing nothing about the monarchy, but what exactly are the official duties of the Queen in her reign?

I thought it was more of a figure head/formality with no real powers or responsibility? If that's the case, in my mind the stability and neutrality she provided was just for show?

I am truly having a tough time understanding what her role was truly accountable for and what she did so well with that accountability that gets her so much love (and hate)?

[Traum]

As far as the Canadian perspective is concerned, because Canada is part of the Commonwealth and recognizes the Queen as the Head of State, she -- well, the British monarch, really -- is basically woven into our Canadian constitution. In theory, all of our laws need to be approved (given Royal consent) by the Queen, although the Governor General is her representative in Canada.

When news of the Queen being placed under medical supervision came out, there were already more than a few murmurs (here in Canada) whispering how she ought to take the monarchy with her (out of Canada) to her grave. In practice, that is extremely difficult to do because it would require unanimous consent from all provinces and terrorities and basically re-write the Canadian constitution.

In the UK, there is of course a lot of ceremonial and official duties that the Queen needed to do. When other world leaders (or important figures for whatever event it may happen to be) attend major events in Britain, the Queen is supposed to act as the host to these guests because it is "her country" they are visiting. Remember the London Olympics, and how the Queen did a video for the opening ceremony with James Bond / Daniel Craig? But this following incident from last year is actually something I like and remember better, and it is from one such event (G7 summit, I think?):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFR_PsZD8Ko

The Royal Family as a whole may share some of these duties. In particular, they are supposed to do a lot of charity / humanitarian work. You may recall that Princess Diana was especially well known (and respected) for working / lobbying to have landmines banned internationally. And then there was this really, really well-known photo of Diana shaking hands with an AIDS patient without wearing gloves. It was an absolutely remarkable gesture for the era.

https://zdmkdcwjde3qmy1sxutql6lo-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/99879BCLN2007dianaaids-640x461.jpg

IIRC, Prince Charles have maintained a strong interest and continual support for green farming.

As far as stability is concerned, I would say this one might really only apply to Queen Elizabeth because she has been the reigning monarch for so long. For a ton of people -- probably at least 60 - 70% of the world's population? -- she is the only Queen of Britan that people knew. Politicans come and go, but the Queen has always been a constant. For some people, having that stability is reassuring, esp when she has always been that benevolent leader and public face.

Not being facetious but from a place of ignorance knowing nothing about the monarchy, but what exactly are the official duties of the Queen in her reign?

I thought it was more of a figure head/formality with no real powers or responsibility? If that's the case, in my mind the stability and neutrality she provided was just for show?

I am truly having a tough time understanding what her role was truly accountable for and what she did so well with that accountability that gets her so much love (and hate)?

[Manic!]

Lets see what the queen did.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/07/revealed-queen-lobbied-for-change-in-law-to-hide-her-private-wealth

Revealed: Queen lobbied for change in law to hide her private wealth


The Queen successfully lobbied the government to change a draft law in order to conceal her “embarrassing” private wealth from the public, according to documents discovered by the Guardian.

A series of government memos unearthed in the National Archives reveal that Elizabeth Windsor’s private lawyer put pressure on ministers to alter proposed legislation to prevent her shareholdings from being disclosed to the public.

Following the Queen’s intervention, the government inserted a clause into the law granting itself the power to exempt companies used by “heads of state” from new transparency measures.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9240109/The-Queen-Prince-Charles-vetted-1-000-laws-parliamentary-approval.html

Revealed: The Queen or Prince Charles have vetted more than 1,000 laws using procedure of royal consent before they were approved by MPs in parliament


More than 1,000 new laws have been vetted by The Queen or Prince Charles before they were approved by Parliament, it was claimed yesterday.

The procedure, known as Queen’s Consent, has been used on Bills ranging from social security issues to the Article 50 law allowing Britain to leave EU.

Some of the wide-ranging legislation also affected her powers, wealth and personal property such as her Balmoral and Sandringham estates.

In a list compiled by The Guardian, at least 1,062 parliamentary bills have been subjected to Queen’s consent.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/25/revealed-police-barred-from-searching-queens-estates-for-looted-artefacts

Revealed: police barred from searching Queen's estates for looted artefacts

Police have been barred from searching the Queen’s private estates for stolen or looted artefacts after ministers granted her a personal exemption from a law that protects the world’s cultural property, the Guardian can reveal.

Buckingham Palace and the government are refusing to say why it was deemed necessary in 2017 to give the Queen an exemption that prevents police from searching Balmoral and Sandringham.

https://nypost.com/2019/11/05/abc-news-amy-robach-claims-network-quashed-jeffrey-epstein-coverage-on-hot-mic/

ABC News’ Amy Robach claims network ‘quashed’ Jeffrey Epstein coverage on hot mic

The “20/20” co-host then rails about how “the Palace” found out about Roberts’ accusations that she was underage when she had sex with Prince Andrew. The Palace, Robach says, “threatened us in a million different ways.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/02/15/queen-help-pay-12m-prince-andrew-settlement/

Queen to help pay for £12m Prince Andrew settlement

The Duke of York will pay his accuser more than £12million using money from the Queen, The Telegraph can disclose.

It was announced on Tuesday that Prince Andrew, 61, had reached an out-of-court settlement with Virginia Roberts Giuffre, meaning he will no longer face a jury trial on claims that he sexually abused and raped her on three separate occasions when she was 17.

https://twitter.com/MarvinGakunyi/status/1568181163772071937?cxt=HHwWgsC-obedpsMrAAAA

[GS8]

Are we going to start getting pictures of Charles on our money now?

:heckno:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8c/db/28/8cdb28cb7be3167f9a64fca414d08a84.jpg

:derp:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkQ5oARNxLU&ab_channel=AndyYoung

[Badhobz]

Poor UK. Just one blow after another.

https://youtu.be/m5aWtcx02ZI

[sonick]

As far as the Canadian perspective is concerned, because Canada is part of the Commonwealth and recognizes the Queen as the Head of State, she -- well, the British monarch, really -- is basically woven into our Canadian constitution. In theory, all of our laws need to be approved (given Royal consent) by the Queen, although the Governor General is her representative in Canada.

When news of the Queen being placed under medical supervision came out, there were already more than a few murmurs (here in Canada) whispering how she ought to take the monarchy with her (out of Canada) to her grave. In practice, that is extremely difficult to do because it would require unanimous consent from all provinces and terrorities and basically re-write the Canadian constitution.

In the UK, there is of course a lot of ceremonial and official duties that the Queen needed to do. When other world leaders (or important figures for whatever event it may happen to be) attend major events in Britain, the Queen is supposed to act as the host to these guests because it is "her country" they are visiting. Remember the London Olympics, and how the Queen did a video for the opening ceremony with James Bond / Daniel Craig? But this following incident from last year is actually something I like and remember better, and it is from one such event (G7 summit, I think?):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFR_PsZD8Ko

The Royal Family as a whole may share some of these duties. In particular, they are supposed to do a lot of charity / humanitarian work. You may recall that Princess Diana was especially well known (and respected) for working / lobbying to have landmines banned internationally. And then there was this really, really well-known photo of Diana shaking hands with an AIDS patient without wearing gloves. It was an absolutely remarkable gesture for the era.

https://zdmkdcwjde3qmy1sxutql6lo-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/99879BCLN2007dianaaids-640x461.jpg

IIRC, Prince Charles have maintained a strong interest and continual support for green farming.

As far as stability is concerned, I would say this one might really only apply to Queen Elizabeth because she has been the reigning monarch for so long. For a ton of people -- probably at least 60 - 70% of the world's population? -- she is the only Queen of Britan that people knew. Politicans come and go, but the Queen has always been a constant. For some people, having that stability is reassuring, esp when she has always been that benevolent leader and public face.

Thanks for the reply, but all of those are still mostly ceremonial things that she needed to do just because she was the Queen but not actually anything she is accountable for or contributed to.

Unlike Princess Diana as you mentioned wbo did a ton of good with her position with charity and AIDS which in that case I get the adoration for. And also Prince Charles. I'm not curious about the monarchy or the Royal family, just the queen herself.

And as for the creation of the laws, I remember that from school but then again it is still mostly a "ceremonial" position and not truly any sort of authority where the Queen herself would actually have lower to decide to make or break laws for Canada. She just kind of gave it her ceremonial blessing but doesn't actually mean anything.

Still don't get what Queen Elizabeth specifically actually DID besides being the queen and just living a long time? Like without the actual authority like the PM, is the leadership she merely exemplifies simply because she was appointed the queen and people look up to her?

Maybe I just don't get it, but clearly she meant a lot to a lot of people.

[Hondaracer]

If the crown is a relatively accurate representation of how the Royal family is represented in govt. matters, basically they are consulted and kind of told how things are going to go but don’t have much say in any actual chance or legislation.

I know it’s a fictional show but I wouldn’t doubt how they are dealt with there likely isn’t far off from actuality

[Tapioca]

We are a constitutional monarchy, so formally, the Queen/King of England gives Royal Assent (final signature/approval) to all laws passed by provincial and federal legislatures. In practice, the monarchy is represented by the Governor General or the Lieutenant-Governor (provinces) and those figures technically represent the British monarch's interests in Canada.

Of course in reality, the British monarchy has no real authority over the governance of Canada, particularly once we received our own Constitution in 1982.

Nevertheless, that's why the Queen is on our money and that is why we swear allegiance to the Queen/King of England.

[Hondaracer]

I’d be all for cutting ties with the monarchy if it did nothing more than removing the governor general.

[Tapioca]

Cutting ties with the monarchy is a non-starter because that would require an amendment to the Constitution. Who would replace a Governor General with? Unless you're talking a full blown transition from Westminister style of government to a Presidential system, which would require a complete amendment to the Constitution.

Amending the Constitution is virtually impossible politically in Canada given the lack of unanimity of the provinces. We tried it twice in the 80s and 90s when there was greater respect among the public for politicians across the country and amongst politicians themselves for institutions. What makes one think it could work today?

[Great68]

I’d be all for cutting ties with the monarchy if it did nothing more than removing the governor general.

Lol we would still have someone in the same exact position and duties, it would just be under a different name.
Whooptiedoo!

[Traum]

I wouldn't say the GG / LG are completely useless or powerless. In recent memory, some of the incidents when the GG / LG mattered were the time when Harper asked Michaelle Jean to prorogue government, as well as the feeble attempt that Christy Clark tried to ask the LG to dissolve the government or something so that voters can go to the polls again (bcos Clark / BC Liberals lost). IIRC, I disagreed with Michaelle Jean's decision to grant Harper's wish of proroguing government, and the Christy Clark incident was much easier find a side to support.

Bear in mind that the GG / LG are the representative of the Queen here in Canada, but clearly, they don't enjoy the level of respect and admiration that the Queen commands.

To try and answer Sonick's question again of why the Queen commands so much admiration and respect from people, I would say her unrelenting dedication to her country is definitely one of the reasons why people admire her. To be actively involved in nothing but public service for nearly 365 days a year for 70 years, and not reveal one ounce of her personal dissatisfaction about any of that work, at least not directly -- even if the things she does are only ceremonial, it deserves a tremendous amount of respect.

Not to pick on Harry or anything, but if you look at the grumblings and complaints he has had about being a Royal, and compare that against what the Queen has said, the sense of duty just isn't that same.

[Tapioca]

Of course the Governor General doesn't enjoy the same level of respect - they're appointed by prime ministers, whereas the Queen/King serves indefinitely until death or the day they abdicate the throne.

The Governor General still retains an important role in our parliamentary system. People accuse the prime minister for having too much power; well, as we have seen at various times in Candian history, the GG has stepped in to curb political actions that are too cynical and manipulative. Take that away and you have a PM who would be completely unchecked. But hey, as long as that PM is not someone named Trudeau, it's all good, right? /s

[sonick]

I wouldn't say the GG / LG are completely useless or powerless. In recent memory, some of the incidents when the GG / LG mattered were the time when Harper asked Michaelle Jean to prorogue government, as well as the feeble attempt that Christy Clark tried to ask the LG to dissolve the government or something so that voters can go to the polls again (bcos Clark / BC Liberals lost). IIRC, I disagreed with Michaelle Jean's decision to grant Harper's wish of proroguing government, and the Christy Clark incident was much easier find a side to support.

Bear in mind that the GG / LG are the representative of the Queen here in Canada, but clearly, they don't enjoy the level of respect and admiration that the Queen commands.

To try and answer Sonick's question again of why the Queen commands so much admiration and respect from people, I would say her unrelenting dedication to her country is definitely one of the reasons why people admire her. To be actively involved in nothing but public service for nearly 365 days a year for 70 years, and not reveal one ounce of her personal dissatisfaction about any of that work, at least not directly -- even if the things she does are only ceremonial, it deserves a tremendous amount of respect.

Not to pick on Harry or anything, but if you look at the grumblings and complaints he has had about being a Royal, and compare that against what the Queen has said, the sense of duty just isn't that same.

This I can get behind, nicely put!

[Manic!]

To try and answer Sonick's question again of why the Queen commands so much admiration and respect from people, I would say her unrelenting dedication to her country is definitely one of the reasons why people admire her. To be actively involved in nothing but public service for nearly 365 days a year for 70 years, and not reveal one ounce of her personal dissatisfaction about any of that work, at least not directly -- even if the things she does are only ceremonial, it deserves a tremendous amount of respect.



She was being paid 100 million a year to do it. Who wouldn't take her job for that type of money.

[Manic!]

This little Jamaican is 100% right.
https://i.cbc.ca/1.6397481.1648223363!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/protesters-call-for-slavery-reparations-outside-the-british-high-commission-in-kingston-jamaica.jpg

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/nothing-is-foreign-jamaica-reparations-1.6403882

The demands are growing in Jamaica to get Britain to pay up and offer reparations for slavery. Anti-monarchy sentiments, protests and calls for reparations made for an uncomfortable visit for Prince William and Kate through the Caribbean last week.

Listen to Nothing is Foreign

Jamaica's prime minister said the Commonwealth realm is looking to "move on" from the monarchy and become an independent republic. One of its most urgent demands — reparations for slavery — has been decades in the making but is now gaining momentum as more Jamaicans say the intergenerational trauma of slavery has shaped the nation in a way that must be rectified.

We take a closer look at Jamaica's push for reparations, the long legacy of resistance against colonialism in the country, and the Royal Family's connection to the slave trade.

Jamaica wants 7.8 billion pounds in reperations.

[whitev70r]

Which province would vote no to removing the monarch from our constitution? I cannot think of a reason why any would ... one of the Atlantic ones?

[Manic!]

Which province would vote no to removing the monarch from our constitution? I cannot think of a reason why any would ... one of the Atlantic ones?

https://globalnews.ca/news/8418373/can-canada-become-a-republic/

In an Ipsos poll conducted exclusively for Global News in March 2021, two in three Canadians, or 66 per cent of respondents, said the Queen and the Royal Family should not have any formal role in Canadian society, as they are “simply celebrities and nothing more.”

Also, Canada already has a real queen.


https://images.theconversation.com/files/471128/original/file-20220627-14-h5z7t0.jpeg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&rect=32%2C0%2C746%2C372&q=45&auto=format&w=1356&h=668&fit=crop

[SkinnyPupp]

They could sell the queen's crown, and basically give every single person who lives in a former colony $1 million in reparations.

[68style]

Yah and Canada should sell all crown lands, every Canadian should sell their house and reparation payment all the first settlers here. Manic’s uncle is gonna have to dig deep, but at least he can collect on the Crown Jewels sale after.

Then that harlet Eve, bit the damn Apple and put us all on this infernal rock in the first place… you better believe she’s gonna make reparations…

And don’t even get me started on the case the dinosaurs have against unabated climate change and Darwin. Nevermind the plundering of their graves for oil. Trillions! Throw in compound interest and inflation… zillions even!

[Badhobz]

^hahahah love it.

Can i get some head tax money too?? :awwyeah:

[!LittleDragon]

And America can give California back to the Mexicans...

FFS, hang on to the past and you get left behind... you'll never move forward. It's not healthy...

[punkwax]

^hahahah love it.

Can i get some head tax money too?? :awwyeah:

Based on the emoji I’d say yes.

[Manic!]

https://i.postimg.cc/8k0JMzpt/20220910-215059.jpg

Went to my cousin's house to watch the UFC. Brought a bottle of something Irish to celebrate the Queen's death.

[Traum]

Also, Canada already has a real queen.

https://images.theconversation.com/files/471128/original/file-20220627-14-h5z7t0.jpeg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&rect=32%2C0%2C746%2C372&q=45&auto=format&w=1356&h=668&fit=crop
Manic, you are really not doing yourself any favours if you suggest that she is the real Queen of Canada.

Also, you haven't been keeping up with her status. She has been self-promoted to become the Queen of the World now.

Get on with the program, man lol~

[QUOTE=Manic!;9075452]She was being paid 100 million a year to do it. Who wouldn't take her job for that type of money.
Also, a quick Google search indicates that the Privy Purse received ~£20M in 2018, which is roughly ~Cdn $30M. But you are quite right that even if I was paid Cdn $100M/yr, I still wouldn't want her job. 365 days of work a year, all under the watchful eyes of the public, with essentially no private life at all, and pretty much cannot express your own personal views on different matters? And worst of all, you're not allowed to drive anywhere outside of your own estate? I definitely wouldn't take her job even if I was paid $100M a year.

[Manic!]

Manic, you are really not doing yourself any favours if you suggest that she is the real Queen of Canada.

Also, you haven't been keeping up with her status. She has been self-promoted to become the Queen of the World now.

Get on with the program, man lol~

What she is not?

Dude I was joking.

[El Bastardo]

Also, Canada already has a real queen.


https://images.theconversation.com/files/471128/original/file-20220627-14-h5z7t0.jpeg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&rect=32%2C0%2C746%2C372&q=45&auto=format&w=1356&h=668&fit=crop




Who's this guy?

[TOS'd]

^ a larper

[68style]

There's a townhouse complex at 49th and Cambie on the southeast corner... old complex with the gates by the golf course... if you drive in there there's one unit that the windows are just covered in all the same flags as the queen lady above and a bunch of anti-Canadian government messaging.

I always wondered if it was just a supporter or her actual stronghold.

[MG1]

Dude, why are you going all out manic? Your posts aren’t usually this bad. Grammar wise, that is.

Although, I must admit, he has improved by leaps and bounds over the years.

All your base are belong to us. Hee hee…………….

[Badhobz]

So after charles its william and then i read somewhere its prince george (the little dude) instead of harry.. how does that work? i thought after william it would be his brother. Why would it be William's son? and how come liz's husband wasnt the king when he married her? doesnt he get the title?

confusing

https://i.postimg.cc/Mprg8RZ1/Capture.jpg

[Great68]

Uh, The royalty succession always passes down through the eldest son (or daughter if no sons, hence why we had a queen since her father King George VI had no sons)... Harry never had a realistic chance unless William died before he had any children.

Philip was not king because he's not royal blood, he just married the queen.

[Manic!]

Who's this guy?

She is originally from the Philippines. In Qanon circles she is known as the queen of Canada. She has a lot of supporters. They bought her an RV so she can travel around Canada. She also has a security detail that follows her in cars. 3 weeks back she told her supporters to arrest the police. So 20 to 40 showed up at a Peterborough Ontario police station to do so. It did not go well. This is the video:

https://mirror.archiveddit.com/reddit/post/26380

[CivicBlues]

Love how all the "minor royals" have trendy modern names but the ones up for succession are all "regally" named: William, George, Charlotte, Harold (Harry). If for some reason all the 1st tier royals get wiped out in some tragic accident we might end up with a Queen Savannah or King Lucas :D

[Badhobz]

queen lilibet sounds hilarious

[JDMDreams]

Lol I love how all the Karen's just have their phones out or filming, I sure wouldn't mind a police beat down for the guy that was kicking the door at the end:awwyeah:

[GS8]

Also, Canada already has a real queen.


https://images.theconversation.com/files/471128/original/file-20220627-14-h5z7t0.jpeg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&rect=32%2C0%2C746%2C372&q=45&auto=format&w=1356&h=668&fit=crop

Sana all :troll:

[CivicBlues]

queen lilibet sounds hilarious

Lilibet was the Queen's nickname. Elizabeth = Lilibet because as a child that's how she pronounced it. Kinda strange Harry and Megan named their kid after their grandma's nickname based on a mispronunciation. Eh but that's Hollywood for ya.

[Slifer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeNZ7CseBLo

[pastarocket]

Yess!! We get a new national holiday in honour of the Queen.

Turd just made the announcement:

https://globalnews.ca/news/9122726/canada-national-holiday-sept-19-queens-funeral/

The national holiday will coincide with the queen’s funeral in London, U.K.

“Declaring an opportunity for Canadians to mourn on Monday is important,” said Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Tuesday, adding conversations are underway with provinces and federal workers.

Another long weekend is coming up. LUL

[Hondaracer]

In b4 every company that flooded their social media with RIP’s not giving anyone the holiday

[pastarocket]

I work for the feds so it's an automatic day off for me on September 19th. LUL

If Turd mentioned that discussions under way with provincial governments and federal workers, then it is possible that people who have jobs that are under provincial regulation would get September 19th as a day off from work too.

For example, teachers and nurses.

Seriously though, how many here on RS who will get September 19th as a day off from work will use part of that day to pay their respects to the Queen by watching her televised funeral? :considered:

[Traum]

Based on the wording from different news outlets, I am not convinced that Sept 19 is gonna be a national-wide public holiday.

In 2 news outlets that I've read, it was only described as a "federal holiday and national day of mourning". That tells me this Queen Elizabeth Memorial Day is gonna be just like the The National Day for Truth and Reconciliation (Sept 30) where it will only be observed by federal employees, but not the public in general.

[El Bastardo]

I'll be at work but will have a CBC or BBC tab open.

I'm not sure if the flags are half-mast in Texas out of respect for the queen or if there has been another mass murder. Either way, they're lowered.

[CivicBlues]

Can't wait to tell all my American colleagues I get the day off because the Queen died :D

[Great68]

I'd be pretty surprised if this is made a proper provincial stat holiday.

It wouldn't exactly be a good look, considering they couldn't do so with the T&R day.

And I don't think employers fear the same bad optics if they don't give it to their employees.

[Mikoyan]

Heard it's going to be only a one time Holiday.

[Gumby]

Heard it's going to be only a one time Holiday.
Yeah I agree, it wouldn't make sense to have it every year...

I wonder what Manic! will do on Sep 19th.

[MG1]

^^that makes most sense

[blkgsr]

do we lose Victoria Day in May now???

Charles was born on Nov 14th, they're not going to move it to that day are they? fuck that, keep it in May.

[bcrdukes]

Yeah I agree, it wouldn't make sense to have it every year...

I wonder what Manic! will do on Sep 19th.

Become self proclaimed King of Canada.

[quasi]

Based on the wording from different news outlets, I am not convinced that Sept 19 is gonna be a national-wide public holiday.

In 2 news outlets that I've read, it was only described as a "federal holiday and national day of mourning". That tells me this Queen Elizabeth Memorial Day is gonna be just like the The National Day for Truth and Reconciliation (Sept 30) where it will only be observed by federal employees, but not the public in general.

My feeling as well? Hope it's wrong I love days off.

[Great68]

do we lose Victoria Day in May now???

Charles was born on Nov 14th, they're not going to move it to that day are they? fuck that, keep it in May.

Why would they move Victoria day?

[JDMDreams]

I was just talking to co workers, what's Victoria Day? Do we get a Elizabeth day now? Charles day? I'm all for holidays cuz we get way less days off than our Asian friends.

[Great68]

Well, we never got Edward VII, George V, Edward VIII, or George VI days (These people all succeeded Queen Victoria), so I don't know why we'd expect to get Queen Elizabeth day?

Queen Victoria was reigning when Canada was confederated, so it kind of makes sense that she's a special case...

[blkgsr]

Why would they move Victoria day?

shit ya right...opps

ok then in that case i hope we get sept 19th ever year

[whitev70r]

There are no long weekend in June ... Justin, can we please have one?

[Teriyaki]

Doug Ford announces Ontario will not recognize Sept 19 as a holiday.

[GS8]

https://i.imgur.com/LjAe1ly.jpg

[Traum]

https://globalnews.ca/news/9126523/bc-schools-close-monday-queen-elizabeths-funeral/

Hmm... no school for kids (including public post secondary institutions), and those in the public sector -- both federal and provincial (BC) will observe the day of memorial with a day off work.

I wasn't expecting that from Horgan.

[Gumby]

https://globalnews.ca/news/9126523/bc-schools-close-monday-queen-elizabeths-funeral/

Hmm... no school for kids (including public post secondary institutions), and those in the public sector -- both federal and provincial (BC) will observe the day of memorial with a day off work.

I wasn't expecting that from Horgan.
Wow, I'm not complaining that some of us will get the day off, but that really screws up the school schedule at all levels. For example, K-12 have minimum hours of instruction. How will they make up those lost hours?

[JDMDreams]

I'm confused as fuck so is it a day off or not

[supafamous]

https://globalnews.ca/news/9126523/bc-schools-close-monday-queen-elizabeths-funeral/

Hmm... no school for kids (including public post secondary institutions), and those in the public sector -- both federal and provincial (BC) will observe the day of memorial with a day off work.

I wasn't expecting that from Horgan.

Parents across the province scrambling to find childcare for Monday...

[Traum]

Parents across the province scrambling to find childcare for Monday...
Exactly my thoughts as well LOL~

[supafamous]

Exactly my thoughts as well LOL~

John Horgan to parents:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyaHfgGX4AA8Prt.jpg

[whitev70r]

Yah, many will be taking a personal day off on Monday cuz kids are home and company won't recognize it as holiday. This optional holiday doesn't work very well for fam with kids.

[Manic!]

Looks like the pedo is getting a promotion.

https://i.redd.it/xq9ikkc4ksn91.jpg

[sonick]

Apparently hospital budgets are fucked up now since they have to unexpectedly pay double for their entire staff.

So short sighted, gong show lol.

[Hondaracer]

Short sighted from turd? That’s unusual

[Mikoyan]

Double post.

[Mikoyan]

Short sighted from turd? That’s unusual

Health care is on Horgan.

[Manic!]

How dare you be upset, the queen did so much for us like ______ and _______ . We have 1 day but the UK has to deal with 10 days of this crap.

[pastarocket]

All Hail the Angry King!

King Charles III hates those bloody pens that leak ink on his hands. :lawl:


https://youtube.com/shorts/pDJU2ijIPy4?feature=share


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[CharlesInCharge]

Lets see how many attend her funeral if she was truly loved.

https://i.imgur.com/1oRdvYR.jpg
The Iranian general that was assassinated a few year back should top the most proven attended funeral in history. They even came out for him in Iraq and an Iraqi commander that was also killed with him.

In the generals home town 7 million showed up. https://twitter.com/i/status/1213741775430529024

This is the massive Tehran video at 6 hours... edit - aerial shot from 1:13:00- 1:20:00 https://www.facebook.com/Ruptly/videos/2721117851304523


but of course if youre a brainwashed sheep most of the people that came out were forced to be there or "bad things will happen to them by the regime" as stated by Zionist media.
youtu.be/5inWiZEBt6g?t=36
At the end of the day the Queen backed ISIS, general Soleimani fought against ISIS. You are either with the terrorists or against.

[Badhobz]

oh charles you bat shit crazy bastard, i love your kooky crap

[Hondaracer]

Does anyone outside of Iran care about that? Lol like who gives a fuck what’s the comparison?

[quasi]

Lets see how many attend her funeral if she was truly loved.

https://i.imgur.com/1oRdvYR.jpg
The Iranian general that was assassinated a few year back should top the most proven attended funeral in history. They even came out for him in Iraq and an Iraqi commander that was also killed with him.

In the generals home town 7 million showed up. https://twitter.com/i/status/1213741775430529024

This is the massive Tehran video at 6 hours... edit - aerial shot from 1:13:00- 1:20:00 https://www.facebook.com/Ruptly/videos/2721117851304523


but of course if youre a brainwashed sheep most of the people that came out were forced to be there or "bad things will happen to them by the regime" as stated by Zionist media.
youtu.be/5inWiZEBt6g?t=36
At the end of the day the Queen backed ISIS, general Soleimani fought against ISIS. You are either with the terrorists or against.

Sorry who? Never heard of her.

[MG1]

Sorry who? Never heard of her.

Apparently, 25 million people, and more, do. One way or another.

Canada is what, 40 million people?

I didn't even know it was a she.................wait................ lol

[CivicBlues]

Aren't a ton of Iranians in Iran unemployed? Not to mention half their population is "encouraged" to stay home. Pretty easy to get a bunch of unemployed/informal economy folk to show up for a funeral when they've got nowhere else to be.

[El Bastardo]

Sorry who? Never heard of her.



More people will remember Queen Elizabeth II than Queen Qassem Soleimani.

[bcrdukes]

Aren't a ton of Iranians in Iran unemployed? Not to mention half their population is "encouraged" to stay home. Pretty easy to get a bunch of unemployed/informal economy folk to show up for a funeral when they've got nowhere else to be.

In addition to that, Iran is urging people to have babies — and making life hard for those who don’t want to (https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-09-14/iran-urging-people-have-kids-restricting-abortion-contraception)

[CharlesInCharge]

I can see your future lineage having to ask people what pronouns they use before addressing them... and seeing how it costs $300k to raise a child to 18 years old, all your evolutionary survival to this time will probably fizzle out in future generations seeing how western culture is going.
The article says abortion is somewhat restricted in Iran... well we dont have desperate women in Iran that rely on keeping a man by letting him have his creampies and if there is an accidental pregnancy, a "doctor" literally using scissors to cut the baby out the womb. How savagely uncivilized.


Does anyone outside of Iran care about that? Lol like who gives a fuck what’s the comparison? Yes, the billions of Muslims around the world that seek a world of peace and justice.

Still having my "royal" badge card that was given to me... Charles actually came to my school and I was part of select few students that filled the gym to watch a 'Vancouver Grizzly' mascot do a dunk and hear Charles speak. These maggots sole purpose for the empire is to win hearts and minds but Im not a sheep.

What is Canada anyway other then a cog nation of modern slave immigrants literally working all their lives to try and own a wooden house serving no purpose in life other then to expand the empire.
Enjoy your life long 9-5 :alonehappy:

Aren't a ton of Iranians in Iran unemployed? Not to mention half their population is "encouraged" to stay home. Pretty easy to get a bunch of unemployed/informal economy folk to show up for a funeral when they've got nowhere else to be. I would assume... Iranian women havent been forced to work like in western nations. They relax at home raising children while the men make good enough income to support a family and vacations houses for leisure. If all of Canada was given days off and even given $30 to attend such an event, which Canadian figure would you line up to morn rather then spend that time for yourself?
Wayne Gretzky maybe?:lol


More people will remember Queen Elizabeth II than Queen Qassem Soleimani. Funny how no one will know her real German last name as its currently named after a castle...
It was Russia that revealed that our own Freeland muppet in office has Nazi family roots and this year they also revealed that Hitler's grandfather was a Jew. A former mayor of London called Hitler a Zionist. Intelligent people know that both sides of the great world wars were funded by the same entity.

Makes you wonder how many degrees of sex partner separation she may of had being 30 years younger then Hitler... aristocratic families are notorious for their degenerate life styles... perhaps they banged?

A picture clip of Queen Elizabeth doing a Nazi salute from a home video.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-33578174

https://i.imgur.com/7wEUxXR.jpg

[Badhobz]

More people will remember Queen Elizabeth II than Queen Qassem Soleimani.

Soleimani is a dude. Eruhh. Was a dude.

Iranian general who got taken out

[CharlesInCharge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA9e3tDenok

https://i.imgur.com/GoZBJZ2.jpg


The Jewish girl who blinded the Fuhrer to his own warped ideology: Nazi leader embraces child who called him 'Uncle Hitler'... despite his persecution of the Jews
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6362929/Astonishing-photo-Adolf-Hitler-smiling-hugging-Jewish-girl.html

[quasi]

I can see your future lineage having to ask people what pronouns they use before addressing them... and seeing how it costs $300k to raise a child to 18 years old, all your evolutionary survival to this time will probably fizzle out in future generations seeing how western culture is going.



You're not wrong with the pronouns, I think the 300K thing seems high to me but my son is only 16 so maybe the next two years will be really expensive and you're bang on. If procreation isn't something my kid is interested in I'm fine with that, I'll be dead in the next 30 years and won't be around to worry about future generations, as long as he had fun I'm good. :)

Soleimani is a dude. Eruhh. Was a dude.


Allegedly

[Manic!]

British Airways cancels 100 flights because the noise they would make during the funeral. Right now estimates have 6 billion lost do to the UK closing for 10 days.

https://theprovince.com/news/world/british-airways-halts-100-flights-to-damp-noise-at-royal-funeral

[StylinRed]

I was wondering why this thread was still active cic joined in! :lol

The Iranian general was regarded as a hero who fought isis that's true, so it wasnt a surprise that the US had him taken out, but why tf is he being mentioned?

[Badhobz]

cuz CIC of course.

[CharlesInCharge]

...If procreation isn't something my kid is interested in I'm fine with that, I'll be dead in the next 30 years and won't be around to worry about future generations, as long as he had fun I'm good. :)
I plan to better my chances of spreading my seed and passing down my knowledge by having multiple wives which is legal in Iran. I also hope to pass down a car design company to beautify future cars in my corner of the world :)

...The Iranian general was regarded as a hero who fought isis that's true, so it wasnt a surprise that the US had him taken out, but why tf is he being mentioned? What if Meghan McCain (proclaimed Zionist) is a part of ISIS leadership but was neutral in terror making decisions... she would go on TV and show her human side, be funny and kind... just because she publicly represents ISIS and meets with Al-Baghdadi taking happy pictures, would that make her a bad person?
https://i.imgur.com/Msh2wUs.jpg

Meghan McCain Says 'I've Always Called Myself a Zionist'
youtu.be/CJtAtqanPmM?t=59
SeemsGood

[CharlesInCharge]

The Ugly Truth About the Queen's Legacy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKIvliJGVBk

[whitev70r]

https://youtu.be/jpPPtrwWtXA

[StylinRed]

Prolly had his knees locked

[whitev70r]

Reports of 14 hour waits to see a closed box .... why?

https://www.ctvnews.ca/content/dam/ctvnews/en/images/2022/9/16/queen-elizabeth-ii-1-6071226-1663335956781.jpg

[CivicBlues]

https://i.imgur.com/Msh2wUs.jpg

Meghan McCain Says 'I've Always Called Myself a Zionist'
youtu.be/CJtAtqanPmM?t=59
SeemsGood

Umm...this is like the worst photoshop I've ever seen

[Great68]

https://i.redd.it/z18qs95bd6o91.png

[EmperorIS]

King Charles in Charge

[CharlesInCharge]

Charles in charge of nuclear codes... lets hope he doesnt have a bad day and gets that ink off his hands.
Umm...this is like the worst photoshop I've ever seenJohn McCain and the ISIS leader together is real...but yes I did add his daughters face overtop :)

[TOS'd]

John McCain and the ISIS leader together is real...but yes I did add his daughters face overtop :)

You personally did the photoshop back in 2013?

[CharlesInCharge]

No just yesterday... isnt it funny how in the video I posted of her she says I grewup in a family that identifies as Zionists but then what is your Zionist dad doing with an "Islamic" terrorist leader... the group that never touched an israeli but killed hundreds of thousands of Arabs.

Then she mentions how "the View" shows producer, whos accompanying her, is also a Zionist and a partner in crime. Cant make this shit up.

[Manic!]

Imagine being such a simp that you fly all the way to England and then wait 14 plus hours just to see box. That's jason kenny.

https://twitter.com/jkenney/status/1570836191326670848?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

The line is now 24 plus hours.

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/queue-see-queen-elizabeths-coffin-reopens-wait-time-is-over-24-hours-2022-09-16/

[TOS'd]

No just yesterday...
The photo was first photoshopped back in 2013, you didn't do it yesterday.

[CharlesInCharge]

I guess youre not in the loop of what western governments are doing... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-22683261
https://i.imgur.com/gpjH9D0.jpg

Do you know about the Canadian spy that was caught taking 3 underage British citizen girls to Syria so they can be raped? I think one got pregnant and after the major conflict was over the British government renounced her citizenship to come back into the country... so like the break away provinces that the Zionist established creating Hong Kong and Taiwan, she is now getting raped daily in a break away province full of terrorist in Syria.

[MG1]

Sorry.......... lost it for a sec.

[Manic!]

Sorry.......... lost it for a sec.

Don't need to apologize, you don't know any better.

Everything the royal family has is stolen. The jewel on the royal crown was stolen from an 11-year-old. Duleep Singh was the son of the last leader of the Sikh empire Maharaja Ranjit Singh. After he died the British tore apart his family and forced Duleep to give it up. After that, they ripped Duleep Singh from his mother's arm and sent him to England where he became the queen's pet. He and his family a buried at a Christian cemetery in front of a church.

The royal family and the British Museum have a lot of historically and religiously significant Sikh artifacts. The British Museum has one of the oldest versions of the Sikh holy book. It has been separated into multiple parts.

Why do you support a family that lives off the profits of things like slavery?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXPovFm9BTA

[whitev70r]

The truth is probably somewhere in between, Queen is not an angel ... but she is not the devil either. The movie Crash (~2000 era) taught me that Good people can do shitty things. Shitty people can do good things.

The line is now 24 hrs long to see the closed box ... ??!!

[GS8]

*Sips Saffron infused tea, while gazing at my 765LT across the street*

"People were sooooo mean back then! They should have really been more like me! My moral compass always shines towards the north star! I'm so much better than all of them! They're so RACIST!"

*Pops tongue loudly to reverberate off the walls of boutique coffee shop with seating capacity of 7"

"I'm so eternally depressed! Time to check my Tiktok feed. I wanna see more dancing proctologists!"

*Carries on swiping on new iPhone made off the backs of modern-day slaves*

[Manic!]

*Sips Saffron infused tea, while gazing at my 765LT across the street*

"People were sooooo mean back then! They should have really been more like me! My moral compass always shines towards the north star! I'm so much better than all of them! They're so RACIST!"

*Pops tongue loudly to reverberate off the walls of boutique coffee shop with seating capacity of 7"

"I'm so eternally depressed! Time to check my Tiktok feed. I wanna see more dancing proctologists!"

*Carries on swiping on new iPhone made off the backs of modern-day slaves*


Yes everyone is a criminal so no one should be held accountable. Abolish all jails.

[T4RAWR]

... Abolish all jails.

We're pretty much almost there with the chronic release of prolific offenders.:pokerface:

[Traum]

Everything the royal family has is stolen. The jewel on the royal crown was stolen from an 11-year-old. Duleep Singh was the son of the last leader of the Sikh empire Maharaja Ranjit Singh. After he died the British tore apart his family and forced Duleep to give it up. After that, they ripped Duleep Singh from his mother's arm and sent him to England where he became the queen's pet. He and his family a buried at a Christian cemetery in front of a church.

The royal family and the British Museum have a lot of historically and religiously significant Sikh artifacts. The British Museum has one of the oldest versions of the Sikh holy book. It has been separated into multiple parts.

Facts are facts, I completely agree that much of the collection of the British Museum were blantantly stolen by the British Royal Pirates... ahem, British Royal Navy back in the day from around the World. There is no disputing that, because that's what the facts were.

On the other hand, as someone with a Chinese background, I am glad that the British Royal Pirates raided and stolen a gob ton of historical Chinese artifacts from China, and hauled them back home. If it wasn't for that, a ton of those artifacts would have been destroyed during the Cultural Revolution.

[hud 91gt]

Unless your some sort of aboriginal living in some forest in the middle of nowhere, never having seen the face of anyone besides your kind. I’m sorry to say, your a hypocrite. If you believe in a religion, even more so. Every country, culture, religion has raped, stolen, murdered for their own reasoning, for what they believe is helpful to them or to better the life of their people.

[Manic!]

Unless your some sort of aboriginal living in some forest in the middle of nowhere, never having seen the face of anyone besides your kind. I’m sorry to say, your a hypocrite. If you believe in a religion, even more so. Every country, culture, religion has raped, stolen, murdered for their own reasoning, for what they believe is helpful to them or to better the life of their people.

Supreme Governor of the Church of England was the title the queen had now her son has it. The royal family is literately the head of the church in England.

[StylinRed]

Unless your some sort of aboriginal living in some forest in the middle of nowhere, never having seen the face of anyone besides your kind. I’m sorry to say, your a hypocrite. If you believe in a religion, even more so. Every country, culture, religion has raped, stolen, murdered for their own reasoning, for what they believe is helpful to them or to better the life of their people.

I like how ppl defend murderers and thieves that they like, they get all meta/philosophical :lol

[Manic!]

I like how ppl defend murderers and thieves that they like, they get all meta/philosophical :lol

I can't under stand how someone would support a family worth billions receiving over 100 million dollars in government handouts every year while 27% of UK's children live in poverty.

https://cpag.org.uk/child-poverty/child-poverty-facts-and-figures

[68style]

^ already answered like first page? It’s pretty simple.

That $100 million investment every year returns an estimated $30-40 billion in income and tourism for the country annually.

Would you stop paying them if you were the British government?

[Manic!]

^ already answered like first page? It’s pretty simple.

That $100 million investment every year returns an estimated $30-40 billion in income and tourism for the country annually.

Would you stop paying them if you were the British government?

What do you think would happen if the government stopped paying them. Are they just going to close up shop and leave? I also find that number suspect. Where does if come from? According to this it's 3.7 billion Canadian. https://globalnews.ca/news/9123360/queen-elizabeth-death-economic-impact-royal-family/

I doubt people are going to stop going to the UK just because the country does not have a royal family anymore.

How much money do the Canucks bring to Vancouver? Should tax payers start paying them?

According to Bloomberg the Royal family is worth 18 billion.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-15/king-charles-means-18-billion-shift-for-royal-family-s-finances

[whitev70r]

Unless your some sort of aboriginal living in some forest in the middle of nowhere, never having seen the face of anyone besides your kind. I’m sorry to say, your a hypocrite. If you believe in a religion, even more so. Every country, culture, religion has raped, stolen, murdered for their own reasoning, for what they believe is helpful to them or to better the life of their people.

C'mon this can't be true ... being part of a culture that has done harm in the historic past can't mean that you can't think critically and to name things that were wrong.
(And it's you're ... not your.)

What I find interesting (philosophically as someone alluded to) is this ... what makes taking some other nations' loot in a war right or wrong? What can you take and what can't you take? Can you take land? Can you take their treasures? Can you take their people? And why was it accepted at one historical moment and not now? And if you lived in that historical moment would you see it as wrong and be a social justice warrior then? Didn't Darwin proclaim, 'Survival of the fittest?'

[68style]

I’d stop working and going to events if I stopped getting paid? Music producers get paid for songs 30 years later when people listen, it’s their image/business isn’t it?

I’m not sure why your arguing with me about it ethically… you asked why the government keeps paying them and I answered. Because it’s profitable for the government.

3.7b, 30B, 40B… heck even if it was $1B it’s still a 10x return on the investment right. Take the emotion out of it and it’s obvious.

Canucks comparison just proves my point on a smaller scale, it’s part of Vancouvers identity and generates tonnes of income through local jobs and patronage as well as tourists yes they come in to watch their teams, etc… and the public does pay, GM Place originally might have been privately funded but that’s unusual, most stadiums are paid for at least half by the cities they’re in, so yah the govt does pay to keep them here.

[hud 91gt]

C'mon this can't be true ... being part of a culture that has done harm in the historic past can't mean that you can't think critically and to name things that were wrong.
(And it's you're ... not your.)

What I find interesting (philosophically as someone alluded to) is this ... what makes taking some other nations' loot in a war right or wrong? What can you take and what can't you take? Can you take land? Can you take their treasures? Can you take their people? And why was it accepted at one historical moment and not now? And if you lived in that historical moment would you see it as wrong and be a social justice warrior then? Didn't Darwin proclaim, 'Survival of the fittest?'

Maybe I missed the plot, but has she herself done wrong, or is this in past history? I’m just seeing a lot of anger towards a women for things that were done in the past, previous to her life.

Everyone has done wrong in the past. Get angry at the Queen. I really don’t care, but you should have the same anger towards your own people, culture and or religion. But people aren’t that open minded.

[hud 91gt]

Double post

[hud 91gt]

I like how ppl defend murderers and thieves that they like, they get all meta/philosophical :lol

If your taking about me? I could give two shits about the queen. I also know the ones before me from my culture have done some awful things. My shit stinks too, I hope you don’t hold me accountable.

[Manic!]

I’d stop working and going to events if I stopped getting paid? Music producers get paid for songs 30 years later when people listen, it’s their image/business isn’t it?

I’m not sure why your arguing with me about it ethically… you asked why the government keeps paying them and I answered. Because it’s profitable for the government.

3.7b, 30B, 40B… heck even if it was $1B it’s still a 10x return on the investment right. Take the emotion out of it and it’s obvious.

Canucks comparison just proves my point on a smaller scale, it’s part of Vancouvers identity and generates tonnes of income through local jobs and patronage as well as tourists yes they come in to watch their teams, etc… and the public does pay, GM Place originally might have been privately funded but that’s unusual, most stadiums are paid for at least half by the cities they’re in, so yah the govt does pay to keep them here.

Music producers do not get paid with tax payer money. Superstore is extremely profitable with the Canadian government. Maybe we should start paying Galen Weston Jr. What about Drake? maybe the government should hire him full time to only do shows in Canada. People would come from all over the world to see him.


According to John Oliver stadiums are a bad investment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcwJt4bcnXs

I don't know how you can believe some people deserve better treatment than others depending on what vagina they came out of.

[Manic!]

If you hate the royal family clap your hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_odneR-kl6A

[sdubfid]

I heard the queens corgis are being adopted by the city of Nanaimo to boost tourism revenue.

[68style]

I don't know how you can believe some people deserve better treatment than others depending on what vagina they came out of.

It's not that I think or believe that... but that's the entire world man... what you gonna do?

[Manic!]

It's not that I think or believe that... but that's the entire world man... what you gonna do?

Equality within the Sikh community

All members of the Sikh community are seen as equal. All individuals, regardless of their gender, race, disability, class or wealth, are treated with respect and dignity. This also applies to members outside the Sikh community.

People have to lose that serf mentality.