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Seems the day of 5 minute charging is here.
Geely challenges BYD's flash charging: 10%-70% in 4 minutes 22 seconds and 10%-97% in 8 minutes 42 seconds
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Just one month after BYD unveiled its second-generation blade battery and megawatt flash charging technology—claiming the world’s fastest mass-production charging speed—Geely‘s Lynk & Co brand has announced even faster charging performance with its 900V Energee Golden Brick Battery.
According to official test data released today, the Lynk & Co 10 achieved faster charging speeds: charging from 10% to 70% SOC in 4 minutes 22 seconds, from 10% to 80% SOC in 5 minutes 32 seconds, and from 10% to 97% in 8 minutes 42 seconds – faster than BYD’s megawatt flash charging results of 5 minutes (10% -70%) and 9 minutes (10% – 97%), respectively.
The peak charging power during the test reached 1100kW, and even after the battery reached 80% SOC, it still maintained over 500kW.
However, the test was conducted using Zeekr’s V4 megawatt flash charging piles, and the company has not yet disclosed the mass-rollout timeline for these chargers. According to Zeekr, as of the end of February 2026, Geely’s self-built charging network has launched 2,103 charging stations and 10,212 charging piles, covering 215 cities nationwide. This includes 6,269 stations in highway service areas, 1,216 800V ultra-fast charging stations, and 5,468 ultra-fast charging piles.
In contrast, BYD installed its 5,000th megawatt flash charging station earlier this month and expects to build 20,000 stations by year-end to support large-scale charging demands.
Honda, Toyota and Ford CEOs have all come out recently and said that they are under huge threat by the Chinese.
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Honda CEO and President Toshihiro Mibe recently traveled to China to gain insight into how domestic companies are churning out so many products in such a short timeframe. After visiting an auto supplier factory in Shanghai, he made a stark remark: “We have no chance against this," Nikkei Asia reports.
Honda’s leadership isn’t alone in sounding the alarm across the supply chain. In an October 2025 interview with CBS Sunday Morning, Ford CEO Jim Farley didn’t mince words either:
'They have enough [production] capacity in China with existing factories to serve the entire North American market, put us all out of business.'
Similarly, former Toyota CEO Koji Sato recently told suppliers during a meeting with representatives from 484 companies that unless things change, the company’s very existence could be at risk:
'Unless things change, we will not survive. I want everyone to acknowledge this sense of crisis.'
What's the heat level like on batteries charging that fast? All the energy being pumped in at once must results in some pretty astounding chemical processes.
I thought Edmunds’ recent Geely SUV test was pretty interesting because they ran it on their usual test track using their standard procedures. Compared to a lot of the English reviews done in China, this actually lets us compare the car more directly with North American models in conditions we’re more used to.
I thought Edmunds’ recent Geely SUV test was pretty interesting because they ran it on their usual test track using their standard procedures. Compared to a lot of the English reviews done in China, this actually lets us compare the car more directly with North American models in conditions we’re more used to.
That was a really impressive showing - other than the handling there doesn't seem to be any serious gaps between it and traditional EV products from GM, Ford, Toyota etc and the pricing is so low that a 100% tariff barely makes it uncompetitive.
I don't get it, they do things the old fashioned, refuse to get with the times then finally admit they suck?
This is more a "hey suppliers and unions that we negotiated longer term contracts with, we're about to renegotiate everything and you'd better play ball before we all die"
I was in Shanghai and rode on quite a few EVs for ride share and also taxis while there. None of the taxis have ICE anymore, anything below at Camry size is most likely going to be electric. The vans that we hailed were all gas or gas hybrid. There are EV vans but they weren't that common, and overall vans weren't super common there.
Here's the observation from riding in a bunch of them, NVH engineering is not there yet. The asterisk being that I mostly got rides in lower end vehicles as they were being used for ride hailing, but without a rumbling ICE in the front, I expected them to be smoother/quieter. Shanghai roads are mostly quite nice, imo, better than Vancouver roads. It goes back to the manufacturers trying to wow customers with fancy screens and tech, but the actual car itself is a bit meh.
I did not go into a dealer, despite walking by two separate Zeekr shops. I just wasn't really interested in just sitting in one without driving it and I won't be driving one. There are some interesting designs and the SUV craze isn't there in China it feels. There are quite a few wagon and hatchback designs that are quite nice.
When the EVs come, the base tier cars here would be in a world of hurt. Things like Toyota Corolla/Nissan Sentra/Mazda 3s of the world would mostly likely go extinct unless they can evolve substantially, and also the entry luxury like MB CLA/Audi A3/BMW 2GCs. I don't think they are at a point where it threatens the more established luxury cars like 5 series/E class level cars.
The Rav4 and CRV would soldier on easily just on name and reputation alone, but everything else would be hard to compete.
Here's the observation from riding in a bunch of them, NVH engineering is not there yet. The asterisk being that I mostly got rides in lower end vehicles as they were being used for ride hailing, but without a rumbling ICE in the front, I expected them to be smoother/quieter. Shanghai roads are mostly quite nice, imo, better than Vancouver roads. It goes back to the manufacturers trying to wow customers with fancy screens and tech, but the actual car itself is a bit meh.
I have to agree. The handful of BYD whatever basic crossover Ubers I rode in, most of them felt pretty awful in the NVH department.
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I was in Shanghai and rode on quite a few EVs for ride share and also taxis while there. None of the taxis have ICE anymore, anything below at Camry size is most likely going to be electric. The vans that we hailed were all gas or gas hybrid. There are EV vans but they weren't that common, and overall vans weren't super common there.
Here's the observation from riding in a bunch of them, NVH engineering is not there yet. The asterisk being that I mostly got rides in lower end vehicles as they were being used for ride hailing, but without a rumbling ICE in the front, I expected them to be smoother/quieter. Shanghai roads are mostly quite nice, imo, better than Vancouver roads. It goes back to the manufacturers trying to wow customers with fancy screens and tech, but the actual car itself is a bit meh.
I had a similar experience in Korea. EVs were all for ride share.. well all Kias/Hyundais and on occasion Dongwoos. Fancy panels and everything but NVH was pretty bad.. and dear god i thought the redeemers were bad here, but ubers are bad everywhere. Never have I been more car sick - it's like no one knows that they have to adapt to one pedal driving.
I did ride in two Staria's which were fantastic. The first one I was in the back seat and while it was very spacious - it was rough. Sitting on / past the rear axle is a very uncomfortable experience. In the other experience, I was expecting a Hyundai GV60 and the guy showed up in a blacked out Staria. That was an amazing experience. I had lie flat seats with the captains chain - heated/ventilated. I think there might have been a massage option but I don't remember. I passed the hell out on the way to the airport (90 mins). It was a great nap.
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I had a similar experience in Korea. EVs were all for ride share.. well all Kias/Hyundais and on occasion Dongwoos. Fancy panels and everything but NVH was pretty bad.. and dear god i thought the redeemers were bad here, but ubers are bad everywhere. Never have I been more car sick - it's like no one knows that they have to adapt to one pedal driving.
I did ride in two Staria's which were fantastic. The first one I was in the back seat and while it was very spacious - it was rough. Sitting on / past the rear axle is a very uncomfortable experience. In the other experience, I was expecting a Hyundai GV60 and the guy showed up in a blacked out Staria. That was an amazing experience. I had lie flat seats with the captains chain - heated/ventilated. I think there might have been a massage option but I don't remember. I passed the hell out on the way to the airport (90 mins). It was a great nap.
The Chinese EVs are probably at where Hyundai/Kia was in the early 2000s. They are reliable, can do 100k no problem but clunks and rattles galore at that stage, NVH and suspension tuning is probably there too.
There's room for improvement but not without putting some money into R&D and better quality components. That PHEV that Edmunds tested was 35k USD, but that's before paying for certification and reengineering for NA/Europe markets, adding more SKUs and software localization, taxes, setting up a new dealer network, etc.
Realistically, it'd probably land as a very well equipped 50k USD car if it comes if they don't want to lose money just to gain marketshare, and if they can get around dumping rules. The Highlander EV is rumoured to be coming in at around 50k USD and we get into a similar situation as when Hyundai/Kia was trying to gain marketshare by straight up under cutting in price for segment or segment+, or shipping with options as standard that would be optional or straight up unavailable with competitors.
This would be the third/fourth time this would happen if China EVs do come in NA, the first time was the Japanese (Toyota/Honda/Nissan), then it was Hyundai/Kia. Depends if you count Vinfast though they seem to have fallen off after the inital hype.
The affordable Chinese EVs in the mid to lower end of the market certainly benefit from better NVH, but one step up to a Zeekr 7X or the Geely in the Edmonds video will behave much better and feel more like a Genesis / Lexus on the inside at Highlander prices.
They drive and feel like luxobarges since that's what the Chinese market wants, but I think they'll tune it differently for the North America market.
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