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these tech bro's are all insane, lets leave them alone.
Just thinking about all you guys with kids (soon to be entering the work force) what sort of jobs are even available to these kids? Or if you were a middle aged man (40+) looking for a career change, what sort of opportunities are available out there?
One guy i know, isnt doing that well and was trying to find a second gig to supplement his income and couldnt find jack shit. His day job is some plant supervisor (70k a year), but between his insane mortgage, his wife who doesnt do jack shit (shes disabled or something), and his 4 kids + 2 dogs, he's totally boned. Gotten so bad that he contemplated killing himself a few times. I told him he would leave his kids destitute and thats not the fucking answer.
He was going to downsize the house (living in a townhouse that was 1.2 mill) but with the prices of homes right now, he says the market value for his place was around 800-900k and he cant stomach that kind of loss. I really feel for the guy, but what can i do. I threw him a few postings for BC ferries and shit but the only thing that he can do is some lousy uber eats that pays jack squat.
I think there's a balance between feeling sorry for yourself/blaming government/DEI/whatever the algo is telling you to blame and picking up yourself and having a growth mindset.
A friend of mine quit a salaried job and became a realtor. Yeah no one likes realtors, but I respect him for it because he took a chance and has done well for himself.
I left government and the security of a pension, etc. behind about 8 years ago. My kids were babies and I had a mortgage, blah blah blah. I made a pivot that most people here probably would never even think of making, even the tech bros in this thread, and I came out okay. The one person that I give props to is dark0821. At least he took a chance and learned something. I think these days a lot of people aren't willing to do what he did.
these tech bro's are all insane, lets leave them alone.
Just thinking about all you guys with kids (soon to be entering the work force) what sort of jobs are even available to these kids? Or if you were a middle aged man (40+) looking for a career change, what sort of opportunities are available out there?
One guy i know, isnt doing that well and was trying to find a second gig to supplement his income and couldnt find jack shit. His day job is some plant supervisor (70k a year), but between his insane mortgage, his wife who doesnt do jack shit (shes disabled or something), and his 4 kids + 2 dogs, he's totally boned. Gotten so bad that he contemplated killing himself a few times. I told him he would leave his kids destitute and thats not the fucking answer.
He was going to downsize the house (living in a townhouse that was 1.2 mill) but with the prices of homes right now, he says the market value for his place was around 800-900k and he cant stomach that kind of loss. I really feel for the guy, but what can i do. I threw him a few postings for BC ferries and shit but the only thing that he can do is some lousy uber eats that pays jack squat.
It's not the 80s, you can't afford 4 kids on one salary..... At least not at 70k.
I think there's a balance between feeling sorry for yourself/blaming government/DEI/whatever the algo is telling you to blame and picking up yourself and having a growth mindset.
A friend of mine quit a salaried job and became a realtor. Yeah no one likes realtors, but I respect him for it because he took a chance and has done well for himself.
I left government and the security of a pension, etc. behind about 8 years ago. My kids were babies and I had a mortgage, blah blah blah. I made a pivot that most people here probably would never even think of making, even the tech bros in this thread, and I came out okay. The one person that I give props to is dark0821. At least he took a chance and learned something. I think these days a lot of people aren't willing to do what he did.
Yes people like you and Dark are baller as fuck, i respect that sort of gusto. But it requires either massive balls, or a secret backup contingency fund. Like in dark's case, im pretty sure his super rich ass mo would bail him out if shit ever hits the fan.
Not a lot of people have lifelines like that.
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Originally Posted by 68style
Why'd he keep pumping a disabled wife full of kids when he's making $70k... ludicrous
he had 2 girls, then wanted a boy and came out with twins. very white guy thinking.... he might be a mormon or something.
i think thats how he's barely getting by. 4 kids money + disabled hoe bag money to supplement his 900k mortgage payment + 2 cars + bills
Math doesnt work out....
Anyways, not sure what the hell he can do.
He needs to put on a collared shirt and chinos and get into management - real management and not just a supervisor. He'll have to leave his buddies at work behind and will have to work in a different way and use his brain.
He could easily make another 20-30K a year in management, which will provide some breathing room.
On the personal side, he also probably needs to start exercising, cutting out alcohol, and eating better. Look good, feel good. Even small things like 100 push-ups a day and walking 5K a day will do wonders for his mood and physical health.
Management doesn't seem to be worth it at $100k no ot, then all the bull shit is on your ass, then there's always district manager above you that you have to dick suck and you compete with the same level managers across the district. All the corporate politics.
the plant he works it has little to no upwards mobility. Forestry products are a bitch right now. There's a chance they lay off the entire workforce and close that shit down. Then you'll probably see him in the news as the guy who off'd his entire family and then off'd himself.
Yes people like you and Dark are baller as fuck, i respect that sort of gusto. But it requires either massive balls, or a secret backup contingency fund. Like in dark's case, im pretty sure his super rich ass mo would bail him out if shit ever hits the fan.
Not a lot of people have lifelines like that.
he had 2 girls, then wanted a boy and came out with twins. very white guy thinking.... he might be a mormon or something.
This guy is Chinese right? That trying for a boy thing is so Chinese
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the plant he works it has little to no upwards mobility. Forestry products are a bitch right now. There's a chance they lay off the entire workforce and close that shit down. Then you'll probably see him in the news as the guy who off'd his entire family and then off'd himself.
Being in forestry and being in Vancouver is probably the dumbest combo you can do. You can easily be 80-90k elsewhere and pay half the price for a house and he'd be living a lot better. Forestry jobs in Vancouver takes a big paycut for the priviledge of being in the city, and also as you said no upward mobility in town. All the operations in GVRD and vicinity are small
My friend moved up quickly in forestry and he makes 130k in Kamloops. Yes the industry sucks balls right now, so you have to pivot. There are plants popping up making value added products like engineered timber and big OSB. That's where the money is going to be at in the future as building codes change to allow larger mass timber.
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Originally Posted by JDMDreams
Management doesn't seem to be worth it at $100k no ot, then all the bull shit is on your ass, then there's always district manager above you that you have to dick suck and you compete with the same level managers across the district. All the corporate politics.
There's not much OT in forestry. I don't think most factory floors don't give a lot of OT anyways except for the really undesirable lower paying jobs.
I was in the forestry industry for years and I would never go back. Even if you make decent money you're always on the verge of being laid off. For every good year it's followed by a few years of doom and gloom and it'll only get worse. You can't cut down old growth logs and the government doesn't give a fuck about the industry in BC so you better have a good backup plan for when your mill inevitably shuts down.
For those who are looking for a steady career ... join the Canadian Armed Forces or Military. Wages have gone up, heard there were signing bonuses. But yah, you'd be sent to places for peacekeeping ... good for people who needs vacay from wife and/or kids.
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Yes that's very different than the shit whitev70 has been spewing for years
For those who are looking for a steady career ... join the Canadian Armed Forces or Military. Wages have gone up, heard there were signing bonuses. But yah, you'd be sent to places for peacekeeping ... good for people who needs vacay from wife and/or kids.