Modern job hunting

[6793026]

Wow so much going on in this thread.

Wife said this is the only generation that's under performing than their parents. Yes that's true. Then you got the other spectrum with 150k fresh grad in Meta, only fans making 150k a month and or starting your own business.
So yes, these 'extreme' cases are there but never would have thought of in previous generations. FML - this kid filmed on IG taking family out for dinner and handing his day his dream rolex.... F this shit.

Let's talk about looks - yes being a sales guy - my profile is clean, up to date on linkedin and you also got to look the part. Hipster company = lose the tie, corp job = tie and glasses to look the asian accountant / IT / tech guy. Kid came up to me asking how to get a vendor job - he's been at retail for 3 months and didn't even have a linkedin profile. FFS.

I'm a bit glad these younger generation aren't doing well, it makes us 40 year really really valuable cause I can get stuff done, and the buck stops here.

#1 top question asked by new hires are 'how do we move up in the company'. DUDEEEE, there's only 2000+ jobs at this company where 1500 are in taiwan as enginners. Being in an office of 500 people, only 200 are at HQ. We sort of are 3 leaders away from being the CEO. How much faster or higher do you want to climb.

Do you not know you're not qualified, not good, and barely able to hold a conversation. The day you're able to sit in a board room, craft a 450 page contract and close Walmart & Costco account while negotiating a 45 million deal a quarter is when you mighe be able to ask for a raise and move up.

We have so many teens asking for "extension" on their papers and exams due to personal issues in high school and then UBC and now at work... you take a break for 2 days due to 'stress'.... go kick rocks.

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Originally Posted by 6793026

The day you're able to sit in a board room, craft a 450 page contract and close Walmart & Costco account while negotiating a 45 million deal a quarter is when you mighe be able to ask for a raise and move up.

This is kinda where I'm stuck at right now, my boss's role (director, reporting directly to board) is up for grabs rn and I think it would be a good move to go for it. My orgs been going through a lot of leadership changes in the last quarter and currently I'm effectively the face of the company. The intrim director runs interference for me with the board and I get to do whatever I want. But the intrim director doesn't want the role and only stepped in due to leadership changes.

I think I have a lot of traits that would guarantee success in the role.

I have history of success in running a business as a GM, history of running startups, background in accounting so a solid understanding of P&L/Cash Flow/Budgeting in a business, etc. And in my current role, I'm already doing some of the Director's responsibilities like having a proven success in closing international deals, rebuilding our relationship with our largest partners (due to faults of previous leadership), building international relationships, currently planning a large project to Asia in Sept with many stakeholders, etc.

BUT I also have the self-awareness to know that I'm not comfortable in a board room, reporting to board of directors, lack the specific technical knowledge for the industry (tho I argue it's not needed as the org is really about supporting SMEs as a whole rather than needing specific knowledge of the SMEs technologies), and lack the age/appearance to be a "director".

It would be a 50K paybump, with a lot more responsibilities and oversight. And I currently have the time outside of my working hours to work on side projects / other businesses that net me 25K/yr/client. On the other hand, going for this role, if successful, would put me on a trajectory that would allow me to significantly develop my personal brand and put me in a better position to jump to another role. Assuming that it gets funded, a future role is already being set up for me elsewhere, but this director role would legitimatize that future a lot better than my current manager role (with a public perspective).

Originally Posted by 6793026

#1 top question asked by new hires are 'how do we move up in the company'.

Also, people are told to ask this question during the interview process to show commitment - that you want to put time into this company and grow within it. And people are always told to ask a question, any question that shows that you'd be a forward-looking candidate.