Toyota Reportedly Planning to Give Its Hybrid Technology To GM

[Timpo]

http://gm-volt.com/2009/05/25/toyota...hnology-to-gm/

Toyota Reportedly Planning to Give its Hybrid Technology to GM
May 25th, 2009 | Posted in: Competitors, Hybrid

An unconfirmed report appears in the Japanese newspaper, the Daily Yomiuri, citing senior executives which claims Japanese automaker Toyota is prepared to give its core hybrid technology to GM.

Toyota supposedly wishes to offer GM the technology that underlies the Prius and other Toyota vehicles should GM go into bankruptcy. The intellectual property under consideration is patented technology for “increasing fuel economy by controlling the movement of the engine and the motor.”

Such a move reportedly would benefit Toyota by allowing its technology to become the de facto world-wide standard thereby continuing to accelerate its improvement and cost effectiveness.

Toyota is said to be concerned that failure of GM to successfully restructure could further collapse the North American auto market, potentially bringing down suppliers, and having significant repercussions on Toyota. Toyota is expected to post losses for two consecutive years and the return of the North American market is felt to be critical for Toyota’s recovery.

Toyota believes its hybrid technology is superior to what GM has developed thus far and is concerned that failure to achieve high fuel efficiency is one reason for GM’s current plight. GM is described as having fallen significantly behind Toyota in developing fuel efficient vehicles because of a long-standing focus on hydrogen fuel cell development, a market for which has not materialized.

Also, Toyota is claiming this action would ease US-Japan tensions as the automotive market plunges deeper into crisis.

GM and Toyota already have a joint assembly plant in California called NUMMI in which Toyota Matrix and Pontiac Vibe are built. No capital alliance between the companies in known to exist.

GM sources have advised GM-Volt.com that this report is “unlikely” to be accurate but that “stranger things” have been reported over the last few months. Toyota has also formally denied this plans to several news agencies, with a spokesperson declaring “we’re not considering it at the moment.”

[asian_XL]

even with toyota's tecnology...it will never achieve the fuel efficiency with like this POS

[roastpuff]

Hmm... what if Toyota takes over GM?

Then we'd have an Italian Dodge Viper, and a Japanese Corvette?

[wouwou]

I thought T denied that news already?

[jlenko]

Originally Posted by asian_XL

even with toyota's tecnology...it will never achieve the fuel efficiency with like this POS

Yeah, but drug dealers don't have fuel cost concerns... so rockin' a Prius is out of the question.

Think of the drug dealers!

[wouwou]

Originally Posted by jlenko

Yeah, but drug dealers don't have fuel cost concerns... so rockin' a Prius is out of the question.

Think of the drug dealers!

I thought drug dealers are more RR guys, since cross country capability is really useful in police chases?

[q0192837465]

so Japanese r smarter than Americans?

[jlenko]

Originally Posted by q0192837465

so Japanese r smarter than Americans?

How many inbred redneck Japanese people do you know?

(Actually, maybe that explains the teeth...?)

[FiveDime]

Hummer Makes more gas milage than a prius

[!LittleDragon]

Know why the domestics don't have many hybrids? Toyota has a stranglehold on the patents required for hybrid technology. Ford gave up trying to build their own hybrid technology because they kept hitting these patent roadblocks. Instead, Ford traded their diesel technology with Toyota for their hybrid technology. What's in a Ford Hybrid is in a Toyota Hybrid. I believe Nissan uses Toyota technology too. If Toyota actually cared about the environment, they would've made this technology free for everyone to use.

[orange7]

does honda have its own hybrid? Then again, its hybrid isn't as efficient as toyotas.
Does any still remember those hybrid accords?

[Rikaro]

Originally Posted by FiveDime

Hummer Makes more gas milage than a prius

lol O RLY?

[Timpo]

Originally Posted by !LittleDragon

Know why the domestics don't have many hybrids? Toyota has a stranglehold on the patents required for hybrid technology. Ford gave up trying to build their own hybrid technology because they kept hitting these patent roadblocks. Instead, Ford traded their diesel technology with Toyota for their hybrid technology. What's in a Ford Hybrid is in a Toyota Hybrid. I believe Nissan uses Toyota technology too. If Toyota actually cared about the environment, they would've made this technology free for everyone to use.

ok...so what about Honda's hybrid?

[The_AK]

Originally Posted by orange7

does honda have its own hybrid? Then again, its hybrid isn't as efficient as toyotas.
Does any still remember those hybrid accords?

see it every day, my neighboor has a silver one

[!LittleDragon]

Originally Posted by Timpo

ok...so what about Honda's hybrid?

I'm not going to type a long msg explaining to you the differences between Honda and Toyota's hybrid technologies. Here's a wiki, read it yourself.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_technology

[wouwou]

Originally Posted by !LittleDragon

I'm not going to type a long msg explaining to you the differences between Honda and Toyota's hybrid technologies. Here's a wiki, read it yourself.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_technology

I think he's point is more towards

if what you said is true, then how come Honda can develop a feasible hybird solution?

not the difference between hybird techs?

[!LittleDragon]

Maybe Honda's technology is different enough to get past Toyota's patents or maybe the IP laws in Japan are different? Or maybe Honda's paying Toyota royalties to use some of their patents? GM tried building their own hybrid technology but couldn't get the kind of mileage that Toyota has.

[Manic!]

[QUOTE=!LittleDragon;6438551 If Toyota actually cared about the environment, they would've made this technology free for everyone to use.[/QUOTE]

Maybe GM should have been working on Hybrid instead of having there head up there butts.

[Shun Izaki]

lol... screw GM... brand new cars and the door handles fall off hahaha...

[!LittleDragon]

Originally Posted by Manic!

Maybe GM should have been working on Hybrid instead of having there head up there butts.

They saw (as do I) hybrids as a transition technology to ween us off gasoline onto something else. Which is why they half assed their hybrids and threw their research money at plug in electric vehicles. Don't think that Toyota is raking it in with their Hybrids, I've heard they take a loss on each one they sell to get the technology out there while they work to get costs down. But that may be out of date information

[BNR32_Coupe]

Originally Posted by jlenko

Yeah, but drug dealers don't have fuel cost concerns... so rockin' a Prius is out of the question.

Think of the drug dealers!

you got it all wrong, think of the cops. without heaty SUV's like this, how are they going to know who to pull over and vehicle search for doing 55kmph?

[Presto]

Originally Posted by !LittleDragon

Don't think that Toyota is raking it in with their Hybrids, I've heard they take a loss on each one they sell to get the technology out there while they work to get costs down.

Here's a official report on Toyota and Honda's hybrid profit. They have probably been making profit for quite awhile, too.

[ctsport]

Chrysler is a joke and GM is a lost cause, hopefully Ford and Tesla come out on top.

[dark0821]

ai... but if toyata does take over GM..would they actually change the name of the company.. xD