Why not expand impoundment penalties?

[sebberry]

That would be good, my only concern with that is getting kids out of child seats quickly enough. However, I'm sure with the reduction in collisions, the net deaths would still be lower.

[Yodamaster]

Let's ignore the fact that people don't like the idea, and think of how effective it would be.

Would you only do the limit if the police could impound your car for doing 10> over?

Why or why not?

[firebird79_00]

Cops dont even do 50, i was next to one going up Oak on friday. I was matching his speed at 70.

[46_valentinor]

yo i have a great plan, how about we just reduce the speed limiter in cars to 50km/h!!!! that way, there will be no more accidents ever and everyone will live happily ever after!!! =)
ohoh we can also restrict the engine outputs and make high horsepower cars illegal, that way we can be more safe AND save the earth by being more green!!!








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[sebberry]

Originally Posted by Yodamaster

Let's ignore the fact that people don't like the idea, and think of how effective it would be.

Would you only do the limit if the police could impound your car for doing 10> over?

Why or why not?

I prefer to do the speed limit, I don't want or need a ticket. I also find that the speed limits are generally too low. I dislike doing the speed limit because they're usually frustratingly low, and let's face it - most people around are speeding.

It's a fact that your actual travel speed has less to do with your chance of being involved in a collision. The risk of crash goes up when the speed differential between cars grows.

So the solution is to implement strategies that focus less on absolute speed and and more on reducing the speed differential between cars.

The government doesn't want to increase speed limits (which has been shown to reduce the speed differential between vehicles and reduce crashes) so the only way to achieve this goal is to take a much more heavy handed approach to enforcing the current speed limit.

Of course I don't think impounds for 10 over is the way to go. It'll make drivers more tense and paranoid and that's not what we want. Photo radar doesn't work well either as that just puts drivers in a pressure cooker environment, made worse by forcing drivers to drive more slowly than the speed they would go naturally.

Solution: Eliminate absolute speed enforcement and focus solely on drivers driving significantly slower or faster than surrounding traffic, and drivers who are driving aggressively.

[LP560]

Wow, maybe we should spend more time on some actual crime related offences. Tax payers are now paying for a licienced facility so the RCMP can drink at work. No accountability for abusive actions against the public, paid leave, ship there problems to B.C. I think speeding in B.C. is the last of this provinces worries.

[Corey Darling]

What about sensible speed limits. We all watch car reviews, many filmed in the EU. We all know about the autobahn.

I've never been there, but I watched a review recently where the presenter discussed how drivers are disciplined enough to stick to the posted speeds of the limited sections - why?
Because they are given the privilege to use unlimited sections of the road system. They are "trusted" by the government to make sound decisions and drive their vehicles within their limit for the given conditions. If I were one of those drivers, and I was driving from an unlimited to a limited section, I would tend to believe the limit is there for a damned good reason - and obey it.

Personally, if I was given that kind of leeway on some sections of the road system, I would be more inclined to follow and "respect" speed limits because I would believe they are truly required or death and destruction is likely to ensue.

For example - anyone driven the Gold river highway or to Tofino will know the speed limit is 80 km/h. They would also know how fantastically twisty those roads are.

Now consider you've just driven those roads for 3 hours straight at 80 km/h (well within the limit of every car on the road) and now you're on a long, straight stretch of 4 lane highway - but wait, the speed limit is now 90-110 km/h

WTF is that?! No wonder people speed on the highway when the speed limits make no sense.

I think many drivers would respect posted speed limits more if the government gave them sensible limits on highways.

[Waffen]

Couldn't agree with you more Corey, when was the last time the speed limits in B.C. were independantly reviewed. Technology has allowed cars to be safer than they have ever been.

[sebberry]

Originally Posted by Waffen

When was the last time the speed limits in B.C. were independantly reviewed.

2003, where it was found that many speed limits were too low and increasing speed limits in test zones resulted in a reduction of collisions.

Review and Analysis of Posted Speed Limits and Speed Limit Setting Practices in British Columbia

[inv4zn]

Biggest thing I noticed when I drove through Alberta was that EVERYONE stuck to the speed limit to a dot. I also noticed there are less cars, and the population is predominantly one culture.

Do each of these matter? Independantly, no, but as a whole, it determines the place you live at, and different places will exhibit different standards of living.

Vancouver is a city where even the police turn a blind-eye to 10~20 over the speed limit, unless they're in a bad mood. It is only "speeding" because of the limits we have in place. If the speed limit in cities were changed to 70km, would everyone that was doing 70 regularly all of a sudden start doing 90? No, probably not.

I'm sure OP had good intentions in starting the thread, but realistically, it is what it is. May not be agreeable to certain individuals, but again, it is what it is.

[sebberry]

Originally Posted by inv4zn

Biggest thing I noticed when I drove through Alberta was that EVERYONE stuck to the speed limit to a dot. I also noticed there are less cars, and the population is predominantly one culture.

That's partly due to photo radar, but similar results can be achieved by setting more reasonable speed limits that gain a higher level of voluntary compliance by drivers.

I absolutely HATE driving in Alberta. Even if traffic flows more consistently, there's still a fair bit of aggression and no driver needs to be driving around constantly worried that letting their speed slip up by a few kph will result in a ticket.

[dared3vil0]

Losing your car for 3 days for doing 90 in an 80KMH zone? I'd be moving. That's just ridiculous. The 40 over laws... I don't like them BUT i understand them. If that makes sense. On top of that, 99/100 times you could drive at 60 in a 50, or 90 in an 80, and if a cop had radar on you, would not give you a ticket.