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10-28-2013, 10:58 AM
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#26 | | Even when im right, revscene.net is still right!
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I like. Can't wait to see how crazy the gt500 looks
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10-28-2013, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by thumper 
•2.4L I4 GTDI Engine (310 Horsepower/310 ft-kb of torque and Fuel Economy: 22 MPG City/32 MPG Highway)
| potential 2014 mazdaspeed 3 power plant?
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10-28-2013, 01:25 PM
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#28 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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They aren't going to scrap the Coyote after only 3 years, and why would they get rid of the 3.7 v6 for one that was worse performance, and worse fuel economy?
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10-28-2013, 02:58 PM
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#29 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by jjson potential 2014 mazdaspeed 3 power plant? | Doubt it, Ford & Mazda split years ago.
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10-28-2013, 03:03 PM
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WTB 2.4L turbo charged engine
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10-28-2013, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by thumper | 4951cc rounds up to 5.0L, nice math website
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10-28-2013, 06:41 PM
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Yeah...funny how that whole 360 view thing "leaked". Stop the presses, we have a "whistle blower" wink wink.
Anyway...that is one sad ass looking Mustang. The gum drop back end, to the family sedan style front end.
Only thing I like is that it finally has IRS...which will piss off the purists to no end. But honestly, I wouldn't worry about that as much as most people I see driving Mustangs are...well, pretty everyone from Grandmas all the way down to teenagers.
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10-28-2013, 08:21 PM
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#33 | | Even when im right, revscene.net is still right!
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No.
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10-28-2013, 09:37 PM
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#34 | | I STILL don't get it
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I guarantee it is going to have a crappy interior like every previous generations of Mustangs.
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10-28-2013, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by platinum300 I guarantee it is going to have a crappy interior like every previous generations of Mustangs. |
Even with a crappy interior, Mustangs have a certain magic and allure about them.
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10-29-2013, 07:29 AM
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| Ford Working on ?Voodoo? EcoBoost Twin-Turbo V8 for 2015 Mustang
some of this is already in this thread but just to summarize again: Quote: Acccordng to Car&Driver, the Blue Oval company is working a EcoBoost twin-turbo V8 mill, internally known as “Voodoo”, that will develop between 550 to 600 HP when fitted in the next-generation Shelby GT350. Interestingly enough, our source also speculates that Ford will continue to offer the Shelby GT500 - with the same supercharged 5.8-liter V8 - although past reports said the performance nameplate will be dropped and replaced by a new Mach 1.
In addition to the “Voodoo” engine, which displaces between 5.0 and 5.5-liters and has a 180-degree crankshaft, the 2015 Mustang will gain an updated “Coyote” 5.0-liter that could deliver as much as 500 HP. What’s more, Top Speed adds that Ford is also considering the 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 found in the Taurus SHO for the new Mustang.
Until these rumors are either confirmed or denied, we do known the 2015 Ford Mustang will become available with a 300 HP naturally-aspirated V6, a 310 HP four-cylinder and the already familiar “Coyote” V8 as the range-topping GT (before any other high-performance iteration). |
watch out z/28 and zL1.
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10-29-2013, 08:16 AM
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The ecoboost V8 is what would have me running back to the dealers...
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10-29-2013, 07:31 PM
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#38 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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Originally Posted by multicartual Even with a crappy interior, Mustangs have a certain magic and allure about them. | yeah 662hp, 202mph for cheap!
that performance is supercar territory
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10-29-2013, 08:21 PM
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looks like the new A5/S5 to me...  
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10-29-2013, 08:28 PM
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It should be called Fusion Coupe.
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10-29-2013, 11:11 PM
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It would almost appear that car manufacturers are beginning to look less diverse
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10-29-2013, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by multicartual It would almost appear that car manufacturers are beginning to look less diverse | yeah i know
except the GT-R, it's in the class of its own
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10-30-2013, 02:45 PM
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#43 | | I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
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Originally Posted by multicartual It would almost appear that car manufacturers are beginning to look less diverse | With stricter crash standards, emission controls and the adoption of global platforms, I think everything will look the same in due time.  | |
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10-30-2013, 06:24 PM
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It's comparable to the early days of NASCAR vs. today's NASCAR. Back in the day, it used to be about who could build the fastest car (with spectacular results), now it's all cookie cutter regulated crap. A "Ford Fusion" stock car is almost identical to a "Toyota Camry" stock car, as is the automotive industry of today.
If individual style/flare has to go out the window in favor of 20 airbags, I think it's gone too far. You can only be so safe in a metal cage, accepting that bad things can happen is part of the driving experience. There is a reason behind old muscle cars being worth 20x as much as when they were new, and while going that far back in terms of safety isn't ideal, it proves a point, people want individuality and style.
Maybe my opinion is amplified by my depression, but everything about today's vehicles is bland and unappealing.
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10-30-2013, 06:40 PM
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In hindsight me saying i should of waited a year is off, what it really comes down to for me is powertrain, i.e if next year's V6 has 350hp, or whatever, i'd wish i had waited, but if it has the same, i'm happy with mine. As long as it's RWD, 2 dr, and looks somewhat decent, i'm buying the power train more than the aesthetics.
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10-30-2013, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by xpl0sive looks like the new A5/S5 to me... | Not similar at all.
But, it is subjective, or is it?
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10-31-2013, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Timpo Damn...Ford designers sure got lazy. | (flamesuit on)
is the grille design really that bad? i know copying aston martin is not original, but i can think of much worse grilles out there (lexus and acura come to mind). but this design is supposed to be the new ford global corporate look they are adopting to most if not all of their passenger vehicles. the fusion was the first. you see a similar grille shape in the focus, and they just redesigned the fiesta's grille to look the same. the mustang is only following suit, and this is just the fords available in north america... this grille design is on nearly everything ford overseas (ford transit for example): 
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10-31-2013, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by thumper (flamesuit on)
is the grille design really that bad? i know copying aston martin is not original, but i can think of much worse grilles out there (lexus and acura come to mind). but this design is supposed to be the new ford global corporate look they are adopting to most if not all of their passenger vehicles. the fusion was the first. you see a similar grille shape in the focus, and they just redesigned the fiesta's grille to look the same. the mustang is only following suit, and this is just the fords available in north america... this grille design is on nearly everything ford overseas (ford transit for example):
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Originally Posted by Yodamaster It's comparable to the early days of NASCAR vs. today's NASCAR. Back in the day, it used to be about who could build the fastest car (with spectacular results), now it's all cookie cutter regulated crap. A "Ford Fusion" stock car is almost identical to a "Toyota Camry" stock car, as is the automotive industry of today.
If individual style/flare has to go out the window in favor of 20 airbags, I think it's gone too far. You can only be so safe in a metal cage, accepting that bad things can happen is part of the driving experience. There is a reason behind old muscle cars being worth 20x as much as when they were new, and while going that far back in terms of safety isn't ideal, it proves a point, people want individuality and style.
Maybe my opinion is amplified by my depression, but everything about today's vehicles is bland and unappealing. | No, Aston Martin grille is not bad.
What I'm saying is that Mustang lost it's original look. As Yodamaster said, what kind of muscle car fans want to their car look like a Ford Transit or Fusion family sedan?
Same goes for Corvette, Camaro, Challenger, etc.
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10-31-2013, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Timpo ok read this...
No, Aston Martin grille is not bad.
What I'm saying is that Mustang lost it's original look. As Yodamaster said, what kind of muscle car fans want to their car look like a Ford Transit or Fusion family sedan?
Same goes for Corvette, Camaro, Challenger, etc. | sign of the times. the 70's are long gone, and traditional muscle car fans only account for a small market share. the camaro, firebird, etc. disappeared because they remained old school in a modern age (fuel costs and insurance also played a factor as well). the mustang skated on thin ice as well (such as the 1990's when the ford probe was supposed to be the new mustang). then 2005 came and the retro look was in and mustangs were flying off the shelves. but now something like 8 years have passed and nostalgia can only carry you so far. ford has to move forward, and they have stated for awhile now that this redesign was not going to be a continuation of the retro theme anymore. they want the mustang to appeal to a broader market, including overseas. if there are more sales and better profits, maybe ford will invest more into such things like adding more content into the cheap interior (like the useless cupholders and stupid missing dead pedal i don't have in mine). they've already done so with the new IRS and the ecoboost engine option... we'll just have to wait and see if the consumer will buy into this.
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10-31-2013, 11:10 AM
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#50 | | Even when im right, revscene.net is still right!
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Originally Posted by thumper sign of the times. the 70's are long gone, and traditional muscle car fans only account for a small market share. the camaro, firebird, etc. disappeared because they remained old school in a modern age (fuel costs and insurance also played a factor as well). the mustang skated on thin ice as well (such as the 1990's when the ford probe was supposed to be the new mustang). then 2005 came and the retro look was in and mustangs were flying off the shelves. but now something like 8 years have passed and nostalgia can only carry you so far. ford has to move forward, and they have stated for awhile now that this redesign was not going to be a continuation of the retro theme anymore. they want the mustang to appeal to a broader market, including overseas. if there are more sales and better profits, maybe ford will invest more into such things like adding more content into the cheap interior (like the useless cupholders and stupid missing dead pedal i don't have in mine). they've already done so with the new IRS and the ecoboost engine option... we'll just have to wait and see if the consumer will buy into this. |
If they "have to move forward with design", it would be best for them to dump the Mustang name. This... thing gives the Mustang badge a bad name. In my opinion the Mustang died in 1970, what they came up with next would have been better suited to a new name. When you create a completely new car, it starts with an original image, skew too far from that image and it is no longer part of that namesake.
The same can be said for the new Camaro, Corvette, Challenger, 370z, and Skyline (Japan). As I've mentioned, if individual traits and style have to go out the window in the name of safety regulations, we've lost the way completely. I'd much rather buy a new Nissan Z if it looked like the 240z, but instead you get this mashed up G37 abortion. There is a reason why older versions of these cars get so much attention from the public when you see them driving around, and it's not just enthusiasts that notice.
The Scion FRS is a great example of creating a brand new namesake in the place of past glory (and still pleasing fans), a shape people can identify as being an "FRS".
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