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lime56 09-15-2011 02:01 PM

nflx still has downside. margin called
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Carl Johnson 09-15-2011 02:18 PM

People needs to stop fighting the trend in RIMM. As crazy as it sounds, it is better for this stock to go lower so it gets cheap enough for somebody to do a takeover.

3klipze 09-15-2011 04:05 PM

^ another buyout from google? ahahah

4444 09-15-2011 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 3klipze (Post 7579113)
^ another buyout from google? ahahah

you'd have to think that's RIM's only play from now on.

you've got a company full of stodgy middle aged cdn engineers vs. apple, full of young, fresh out of ivy league schools, engineers creating dynamic, new age devices

what could MSFT or GOOG do with this? probably more than the current situation.

i'd maybe consider buying at $17 for this reason alone, but i, personally, won't actually be doing that (not how i invest)

3klipze 09-15-2011 07:41 PM

I find the Motorola takeover to be a good stepping stone into the mobile industry for google. With RIM, they are definitely in the game to compete with apple or other companies ( nokia, etc.)

lime56 09-15-2011 11:14 PM

Be patient. Nflx is a broken company. And I have a subscription too. Its book don't match up to debt obligations

lime56 09-15-2011 11:15 PM

Be patient. Nflx is a broken company. Momentum has ended for this business model

Stormspirit 09-16-2011 07:57 AM

RIM just got shot

4444 09-16-2011 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by lime56 (Post 7579546)
Be patient. Nflx is a broken company. And I have a subscription too. Its book don't match up to debt obligations

i think you should stop these 'broadcasts' of your stock opinions. you've been nothing but wrong/given out terrible advice (per the masses)

lime56 09-16-2011 09:36 AM

nflx continue to tank.
besides rimm. where was i wrong

u think this rally is real
its a relief rally

i think guys here should stop touting the spec miners

but its a forum here, and this is where u guys get to prop up ur picks for bagholders
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TouringTeg 09-16-2011 10:06 AM

Wish I went with my instinct yesterday and shorted RIM!

4444 09-16-2011 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lime56 (Post 7579805)
nflx continue to tank.
besides rimm. where was i wrong

u think this rally is real
its a relief rally

i think guys here should stop touting the spec miners

but its a forum here, and this is where u guys get to prop up ur picks for bagholders
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GS you admitted to mistiming. Netflix you were late to the party
RIM you weren't just wrong, you were astronomically wrong (and seemingly way too over confident in your thoughts as to what would happen)
$10k to the TD guy - that's really all there is to say.

i own 1 non producing miner, i bet most on here, except hte specialists are the same, but we're in vancouver, home of junior mining companies, so there will be more chatter about them, and i'm fine with that

lime56 09-16-2011 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 4444 (Post 7579965)
GS you admitted to mistiming. Netflix you were late to the party
RIM you weren't just wrong, you were astronomically wrong (and seemingly way too over confident in your thoughts as to what would happen)
$10k to the TD guy - that's really all there is to say.

i own 1 non producing miner, i bet most on here, except hte specialists are the same, but we're in vancouver, home of junior mining companies, so there will be more chatter about them, and i'm fine with that


rimm i was wrong on stock movement

gs wasnt mistimed at all!!!! i sold at the top intraday i made a profit


im not late to nflx. it plunge today too


and this is a stock thread.

was pretty dead in here. no topics on big equities or anything
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3klipze 09-16-2011 12:48 PM

anyone here hold and IAE.V?

Want to provide some insight?

Jermyzy 09-16-2011 01:10 PM

But RIM has P/E of only 3.79!!! I'm tempted to buy some stock and hope for a small rally and sell.

lime56 09-16-2011 02:28 PM

so wuts CUU at?
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Carl Johnson 09-16-2011 10:38 PM

^
Fundamental trumps technical. When the company's products aren't moving off the shelves it just doesn't matter where the moving averages, MACD or elliott waves is at. You can make money by playing a dead cat bounce (very risky still). The pros play RIMM from the short side.

lime56 09-16-2011 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Johnson (Post 7580491)
^
Fundamental trumps technical. When the company's products aren't moving off the shelves it just doesn't matter where the moving averages, MACD or elliott waves is at. You can make money by playing a dead cat bounce (very risky still). The pros play RIMM from the short side.

Nice:nicethread:

aznl3oi 09-16-2011 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lime56 (Post 7580051)
so wuts CUU at?
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so wuts rim at?

StaxBundlez 09-17-2011 12:37 AM

You're right. RIM was developed by engineers. This is why its security architecture is so good; their technology is unique. This is also why it still has a strong base in the enterprise world; unfortunately with the mainstream crowd, a lot of people are moving to other platforms, e.g. Apple's iPhone OS, Google's Android.. etc. Another problem that RIM faces is the fact that most developers are abandoning the platform. This does not bode well for the company for obvious reasons, especially for the mainstream crowd who love their smart phones to be able to do EVERYTHING.

After RIM missed its bases points estimate it does seem like RIM is at a tipping point.There are suppose to be new platforms and products that are coming out that are suppose to save the company.. but we'll see how they plays out. You should never count RIM out though.

MoBettah 09-17-2011 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by StaxBundlez (Post 7580614)
You're right. RIM was developed by engineers. This is why its security architecture is so good; their technology is unique. This is also why it still has a strong base in the enterprise world; unfortunately with the mainstream crowd, a lot of people are moving to other platforms, e.g. Apple's iPhone OS, Google's Android.. etc. Another problem that RIM faces is the fact that most developers are abandoning the platform. This does not bode well for the company for obvious reasons, especially for the mainstream crowd who love their smart phones to be able to do EVERYTHING.

After RIM missed its bases points estimate it does seem like RIM is at a tipping point.There are suppose to be new platforms and products that are coming out that are suppose to save the company.. but we'll see how they plays out. You should never count RIM out though.

That's what people said about Nortel.

Hehe 09-17-2011 09:25 AM

I think the problem with RIM is lack of vision and innovation.

They have reached a place where the steam of their original innovation is wearing out. Android and iOS are pushing out product that consumer actually wants.

IMO, RIM should split up. One that focus on the service-side of their handsets and other as a handset maker. After split up, BES should make available to Android and iOS with better integration. So RIM can cash-in on the growth of smartphones.

Then the handset maker part should become like HTC. Try to produce handsets in different OS with best integration to their BES.

If they do this, they might still have a shot. Else, they would simply become a stubborn company that will die eventually.

The thing is, if their OS is not working in the market, why insist on it?! join the crowd and make some cash out of it rather than spending money/resource on something that's losing steam.

lime56 09-17-2011 09:55 AM

if mr balls-silly focused a bit more on business and product development instead of trying to get a hamilton hockey team.... who knows???? :fullofwin:

Carl Johnson 09-19-2011 05:53 AM

when the dips are this easy to come by. watch out knife catchers.

LiquidTurbo 09-19-2011 07:07 AM

Huh? Lol
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