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lime56 09-27-2011 12:28 AM

rally is gonna happen
(conspiracy)
technical trading. funny how these news events hit during the top/bottom.ranges
the baikout is already done. it will have to happen
as always. buy the rumour. sell on news
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SiRV 09-27-2011 06:02 AM

looks like its rallyin

blkgsr 09-27-2011 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strykn (Post 7591251)
filled @ 1.17 :fullofwin: gonna flip @ 1.40

nice pick up

SiRV 09-27-2011 07:04 AM

Trading options
 
For newbs like me that don't totally understand options:
(call/puts etc.).. watch them in order





and what it actually looks like with you're brokerage:


4444 09-27-2011 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lime56 (Post 7591469)
get the hell out of commodities and get into short term financials. play of the week!
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another great piece of advice, basic materials (commodities), currently the best performing sector, which makes TOTAL sense on bail out news/speculation, as this would nip any recession in the bud ,and given the huge sell off (hugely oversold) of commodities of late on growing expectation of a recession:

Sector Change % down / up
Basic Materials +3.66%


Capital Goods +3.23%


Conglomerates +2.90%


Cons. Cyclical +2.50%


Cons. Non-Cyclical +1.90%


Energy +3.17%


Financial +2.65%


Healthcare +2.14%


Services +1.98%


Technology +2.57%


Transportation +2.59%


Utilities +1.50%

Jermyzy 09-27-2011 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strykn (Post 7592287)
thoughts on rally? guts telling me its fake




That's my gut feeling too. I think markets are grasping at any rumors of good news. I'm hoping rally carries over tomorrow, then I might sell some positions and wait for the next drop

SiRV 09-27-2011 08:51 AM

^good call.. i might fully liquidate my holds too
how are you doing all of this as a FT RPh?! lol

lime56 09-27-2011 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4444 (Post 7592481)
another great piece of advice, basic materials (commodities), currently the best performing sector, which makes TOTAL sense on bail out news/speculation, as this would nip any recession in the bud ,and given the huge sell off (hugely oversold) of commodities of late on growing expectation of a recession:

Sector Change % down / up
Basic Materials +3.66%


Capital Goods +3.23%


Conglomerates +2.90%


Cons. Cyclical +2.50%


Cons. Non-Cyclical +1.90%


Energy +3.17%


Financial +2.65%


Healthcare +2.14%


Services +1.98%


Technology +2.57%


Transportation +2.59%


Utilities +1.50%




i say short term... financials are the play...

recesssion? you think we're out? you are kidding yourself

keep this quote of you and me and get back to it october 19th or after

too_slow 09-27-2011 10:53 AM

Hey guys, I'm not sure if I should be posting this. I am looking at building a portfolio for long-term growth. Goal: steady stream of dividends, looking at holding for at least a couple of years. I'm most likely going to start with $50k (half from cash savings, and half from DC pensions from my old employer).

I've been fooling around with Google Finance for the last little while, and have short-listed the following:

TS 33.63 +0.98 (3.00%) 6.27B
JE 11.07 +0.25 (2.31%) 1.53B
SLF 25.03 +0.60 (2.46%) 14.53B
COS 21.30 +0.58 (2.80%) 10.33B
LB 44.25 +1.06 (2.45%) 1.06B
CM 72.40 +0.22 (0.30%) 28.88B
RY 48.41 +0.43 (0.90%) 69.50B
POW 22.63 +0.86 (3.95%) 9.30B
T 51.73 -0.07 (-0.14%) 16.78B
RSI 5.22 +0.07 (1.36%) 463.73M
CPB 32.67 +0.89 (2.80%) 10.49B
BNS 53.48 +1.18 (2.26%) 58.07B
WM 0.180 +0.010 (5.88%) 24.21M
PEP 0.080 0.000 (0.00%) 1.89M
LIQ 14.08 +0.30 (2.18%) 318.43M

Thoughts? :)

Jermyzy 09-27-2011 11:21 AM

I like BNS. They have solid international business in growing Latin America and recently purchased a large stake in a Chinese bank.

disclosure: I hold stocks in BNS myself :)


And I think you've got the wrong PEP stock listed, lol

bakasam 09-27-2011 11:26 AM

Another one you could check out is SCCO its a copper mining company with a really good dividend payout.

Even though copper isn't doing particularly well lately you did mention your keeping it for long term

SiRV 09-27-2011 11:39 AM

Been holding CM since it was $44.xx in 08/09 crash... it's been giving me some nice steady returns in dividends + stock value the past couple years so no complaints here =)

I don't think it's worth purchasing in this type of market at the current price though, probably wait till it dips to the mid 60 or lower mark

TouringTeg 09-27-2011 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strykn (Post 7592287)
thoughts on rally? guts telling me its fake

You were right. It really trailed off near end of trading today.

Who knows what tommorrow will bring

I am tempted to buy RIM if Carl Icahn makes a big play. Even Scotia is bullish on RIM now:
Angel in the details? Scotia sees ‘strength ahead’ for RIM | Trading Desk | Financial Post

Jermyzy 09-27-2011 03:18 PM

^RIM is too risky for me. Got burned once, won't touch it again, lol.

too_slow 09-27-2011 06:39 PM

This is what my CIO said:
"RIM is done, and waiting for MS or Google to buy them. QNX won't be the saviour, and with iOS and Android being supported through vendors such as Good Technology, Blackberry's grasp on the enterprise world is slipping, and they don't seem to be capable to turn it around!"

TouringTeg 09-28-2011 07:17 AM

Iphone 5 release is also a major threat to RIM

Jermyzy 09-28-2011 08:46 AM

So if the vote passes in Germany tomorrow, you think markets will go up or down?

no_clue 09-28-2011 09:01 AM

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no_clue 09-28-2011 09:02 AM

If they vote yes.. bull market
If they vote no.. bye bye profits
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Jermyzy 09-28-2011 09:03 AM

^Argh! Lol, not sure which way to hedge on....

Carl Johnson 09-28-2011 09:45 AM


Carl Johnson 09-28-2011 09:51 AM

Stay nimble and liquid. If we drop another 500 - 700 points from here. I say we are good to test 8500 - 9000 on the DOW.

gdoh 09-28-2011 09:54 AM

if germany doesnt pass it i think the shit will really hit the fan. there is already so much uncertainty in the market already jmo

lime56 09-28-2011 10:00 AM

even if they pass it.... let it hit the top trading ranges.. wait a week

let corporate earnings or guidance disappoint

then we'll finally pay attention to how bad the economic numbers were these past 3 weeks

they new low again

this is a bear market .. either sooner (now) or later (a month from now)

after the great depression crash in markets.. it bounce and continued even lower and never came back for god knows how long

so have fun guys!

Jermyzy 09-28-2011 10:00 AM

:suspicious:

BBC financial expert Alessio Rastani: 'I'm an attention seeker not a trader' - Telegraph

"The soundbites won Mr Rastani instant fame. He became a viral hit and was trending on Twitter. BBC business editor Robert Peston was among the fans. "A must watch if you want to understand the euro crisis and how markets work," he told his army of 82,000 followers on Twitter on Tuesday.

The interview contained such gems as "Governments don't rule the world, Goldman Sachs rules the world [and] Goldman Sachs does not care about the rescue package."

But on Tuesday night the BBC was left facing questions about just how qualified Mr Rastani is to speak about the markets.

In the interview Mr Rastani described himself as an independent trader. Elsewhere he claims he's an "investment speaker". Instead of operating from a plush office in Canary Wharf Mr Rastani works and lives with his partner Anita Eader in a £200,000 semi in Bexleyheath, south London. The house, complete with a mortgage from Royal Bank of Scotland, belongs to her not him.


The £200,000 semi in Bexleyheath, south London (far left), where Alessio Rastani lives.

He is a business owner, a 99pc shareholder in public speaking venture Santoro Projects. Its most recent accounts show cash in the bank of £985. After four years trading net assets are £10,048 - in the red.

How a man who has never been authorised by the Financial Services Authority and has no discernible history working for a City institution ended up being interviewed by the BBC remains a mystery.


Stock trader Alessio Rastani: "I'm an attention seeker".

The incongruity led to some commentators speculating Mr Rastani was a professional hoaxer. The BBC denied the allegation: "We've carried out detailed investigations and can't find any evidence to suggest that the interview with Alessio Rastani was a hoax."

However, the BBC declined to comment on what checks, if any, it had done prior to the interview.

Mr Rastani was a little more forthcoming.

"They approached me," he told The Telegraph. "I'm an attention seeker. That is the main reason I speak. That is the reason I agreed to go on the BBC. Trading is a like a hobby. It is not a business. I am a talker. I talk a lot. I love the whole idea of public speaking."

So he's more of a talker than a trader. A man who doesn't own the house he lives in, but can sum up the financial crisis in just three minutes – a knack that escapes many financial commentators.

"I agreed to go on because I'm attention seeker," he said on Tuesday. "But I meant every word I said."

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