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Old 02-11-2008, 01:10 AM   #9726
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well i thinks i going to drop the crank scarper idea and do much more better idea

windage tray should not to hard to make

and goign to take the stock spring out of the oil pump and see how much tention is on it and see how much i can shim

i have all ready ditch the oil relife on the oil filter thing
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and goign to take the stock spring out of the oil pump and see how much tention is on it and see how much i can shim
But Ryan! You've always said shimming is a bad idea!
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Old 02-11-2008, 03:50 PM   #9728
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stuck in the middle of but fuck no were ony had 87 cause there 89 was bone dry

so filled up wiht about 10 buck's and drive to nearest gas staion wiht 94
Ah, that blows goats.

So no dorifto or you this weekend then?
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Old 02-11-2008, 07:34 PM   #9729
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But Ryan! You've always said shimming is a bad idea!

yes it can be but i doing it diffent way so shim is good thing to use to certon point

remmber i chnageing buch of stock remove restion witch cause higher oil persure

and with the stock stuff most off all that persure will be blead of anys wasy aka you oil cooler wonte be used as much since ti will bleed it off this si why i ran a bigger oil cooler on my old set up

and word has t you can't really shim the oil releav vavle to muhc befor you start blocking the oil passge cause of the piston not moven far eghough witch is bad
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Ah, that blows goats.

So no dorifto or you this weekend then?
bno i hate to say it but it just be a bad idea in less i trailored it there
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and with the stock stuff most off all that persure will be blead of anys wasy aka you oil cooler wonte be used as much since ti will bleed it off this si why i ran a bigger oil cooler on my old set up
No.

I just double checked and you're actually completely wrong. The oil cooler is only fully used at 35~ + PSI of oil pressure. The relief valve inside the filter housing diverts oil to the cooler, then back to the pan.

I would suggest actually learning how your oiling system works before you start modifying it at all.
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Old 02-12-2008, 02:37 PM   #9732
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Welcome to my world. Years of engine-building experience > 5 bajillion hours reading Supramania.

Just IMHO, though. I probably don't know shit.
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Old 02-12-2008, 07:16 PM   #9733
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Welcome to my world. Years of engine-building experience > 5 bajillion hours reading Supramania.

Just IMHO, though. I probably don't know shit.
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HA. No Mikey, you know absolutely nothing. Worse engine builder, ever. Ryan never take his advice.

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ryans talking about replacing the stock oil filter mount with an NA filter mount, which gets rid of that valve. you then use an aftermarket oil thermostat tied into an aftermarket oil cooler. with some foresight and planning, you can revamp the oiling system, but there are lots of ways to screw it up. some upgrades are pretty simple, like a new mandrel bent hardline on the oil pump.
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ryans talking about replacing the stock oil filter mount with an NA filter mount, which gets rid of that valve. you then use an aftermarket oil thermostat tied into an aftermarket oil cooler. with some foresight and planning, you can revamp the oiling system, but there are lots of ways to screw it up. some upgrades are pretty simple, like a new mandrel bent hardline on the oil pump.
I know that Toby, but he was having trouble understanding how the stock one worked to begin with, ie excess oil was bled directly back into the pan instead of through the oil cooler.

But I think before too much longer I'll be going with an NA filter housing myself, using a sandwitch plate and oil t-stat.
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moi haha everyone wants the NA technology!! lol
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moi haha everyone wants the NA technology!! lol
Dont know why but that quote made me think of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na4x2Uwflmg
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I know that Toby, but he was having trouble understanding how the stock one worked to begin with, ie excess oil was bled directly back into the pan instead of through the oil cooler.

But I think before too much longer I'll be going with an NA filter housing myself, using a sandwitch plate and oil t-stat.

there is no such thing as na monte it a threaded bung
and i said if you run to high of persue it will by pass in to the pan cause the piston will block the passge so ti has no were to go cetp into the pan that si why you cna not shim the oil filter monte to much
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any ways i am planing a rib night at montana's who is intrested in next week on rib night night
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Okay, the weather is getting decent out, and i need some targa tools. Who's got an extra set of Targa tools for a MKIII they'd be willing to sell?
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use ratchet or some peoepl will geta impac driver so it's faster
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I have an allen-key set that fits, however it feels like it's stripping the screws. For example the allen-key (7/32's) fits in it tightly, but then feels like it has nealry a quarter turn of play. Then if I stick the OEM key into it, there's no play...

Basically all I need is the hand, grabber, thinger for the OEM hex key.
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its a metric, can't remember the size.

anyways, buy a ratchet and bit, or buy a cheap small cordless screwdriver and bit. the stock tools are useless.
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yae there kinda umm cheep and crappy

just buy cheep alen key set to find out the size i borrow some alenkey set
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its a metric, can't remember the size.

anyways, buy a ratchet and bit, or buy a cheap small cordless screwdriver and bit. the stock tools are useless.
i use the stock tools just fine
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sow hat night is the rib night any ways
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I know that Toby, but he was having trouble understanding how the stock one worked to begin with, ie excess oil was bled directly back into the pan instead of through the oil cooler.

But I think before too much longer I'll be going with an NA filter housing myself, using a sandwitch plate and oil t-stat.
here this is what i was trying to expalin when you shim you block the passge pending how much you shim or if one is over shimmed

i have tested this on monet i had kicking around

(Im sure it has been covered before but I wanted to state it again in as few words as possible.

The stock oil cooler is a piss poor excuse for an oil cooler. The way it is designed is, if there is an over pressure between the pump and the filter some oil is bled out into the cooler and returned to the oil pan, so basically your oil gets cooled when your oil bypasses the filter and barely cools the engine at all. When your oil is the hottest and thinest it will never see the oil cooler.

It should also be mentioned that an off the shelf (joe blow consumer AN fitting, as opposed to an actual military spec AN fitting) -10 AN fitting will never have the same inside diameter as each other. I had a box full of -10 AN fittings and they all had a little different inside diameter some even had a smaller inside diameter than .46 inches. The ones I did use (coming out of the oil pump) I had to drill out to get them over .5 inch inside diameter. Just thought I should share that.)
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any ways how about 7 pm on wensday at montansa for rib night

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every one is welcome
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sounds good

ryan, we need alex to come, it's quite amusing watching you and him argue lol
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last time i just watch as he died wheil eating hot wings his face matched his hair
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