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I wasnt telling the guy to goto an extreme. Obviously you gotta be a man of your word too. Just dont be afraid to tell a girl that something came up and you wont be able to go out with her that night.

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Not kissing on the first date doesn't = prude. Any guy who so easily throws in the towel because he didn't get some nookie asap needs to grow up.

Basically every girl I have met has not minded me at least kissing her on the cheek good bye. I'm not saying you have to make out with her. If you try to be friendly and touch her and she resists your advances then she is most likely not interested in you.

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If a guy asks me out to dinner on a first date, I absolutely will expect him to pay. After that, it's dutch, if I decide to go out with him again. I don't think that makes me a waste of time or a money hungry gold digger. I can fend for myself and in past relationships have always paid my own way. The first date though, if the guy wants to make a good impression and he is the one to ask, he should always pay. These are the things that separate boys from men.

Honestly.. tell me.. when is the last time YOU asked a guy out. I only know a handful of girls that will actually do that.

if my friends are acting like whipped nancy boys I let them know. I dont just sit there and let them get hurt :rolleyes:

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Exactly. To put it simply, 95% of you guys in this forum are pussys. You know why you're all having female problems, females don't like pansy men so grow some balls and stop being whiney, clingy and insecure.

Sure I might have had my share of females call me a jackass, but they also keep coming back and I date models and actresses, so life ain't bad. My experience, females like confident, take charge, roughneck guys.

I've gone even further and knocked out one of my buddies for acting like a nancy boy with his girlfriend. Worked wonders :D From that day one, hes taken charge of that relationship and no problems.

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You just made it sound like a girl who isn't interested in being physical in the slightest (a kiss or whatnot) is deemed to be put into your black book forever.. and I really don't think that's right. Maybe she just doesn't feel comfortable or is shy, and if you disregard her based on such a small fact, then it really would be your loss if she actually was someone of quality character that you really could have fun with once she became comfortable with you.

It's not something I do often, as I am generally attracted to the A-type personality guy who is a go-getter and aggressive about what he wants. Usually those types will do the asking first. I have, in the past however, been interested in someone and asked them to hang out for movie or coffee and have paid. Regardless, I think that whoever asks, should pay. If the guy asks a girl on a first date, he should definitely pay.

It's just proper dating ettiquette. It doesn't mean that the woman is a gold digger. At the end of the meal/movie/etc she should offer to split, but if you asked, you should pay.

Reasoning? Paying is a sign of respect. First impressions are important, and if a guy simply pays without making a big deal out of it, I'm impressed. It shows generosity and a bit of macho protectiveness that even my feminist leanings don't want to quench. I realize it sounds contradictory to demand equality by still wanting men to pay on the first date, but I'm not advocating being a dinner whore. Frankly, I wouldn't want to waste time eating a meal with someone I wasn't attracted to, even if they took me to Lumiere.

Past the first-date stage, and especially once you've started a relationship, anything goes—alternating, settling on the greater earner always paying, going dutch, or figuring out another system based on your values.

I'm sure there will be many who disagree and many who agree with me. Just do whatever works for you, and if it's not working - think about changing your approach.

Most of the posts here are pathetic, I agree. And most members are suffering from a severe deficiency in the testicular department. But you know whats more pathetic? people who claim to know the "answer" and go around bullshitting their way through this thread. Fact, everyone is different, every situation is different and applying the same methodology to everyone is stupid.

I think naomi is a guy. Quit trolling for answers


get over yourself. You still feel the need to post among these "losers". Shouldn't you be out chasing tail?

Nope, I'll be doing that after at noon when I get out of the office, till then RS, MSN and AIM will have to keep me occupied at work.

Its just funny because I was talking to one of the RS admins yesterday exactly about this point of all the whiney guys in the relationship forum.

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And can you honestly give me a GOOD why a girl would want to date a guy who was too scared to ask her out?

Right Homer...you keep thinking that. :lol

Basically, the way I see it...if you have the preoccupation of thoughts, of things you can, or cannot do to get with who ever you want; then that makes you whipped, or soon to be whipped my friend. :whipped:

I've been with my wife for 8 years, married for 5. After the first year...the whip no longer exists. Please don't try to teach the master.:nono:

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I agree... but the point I was trying to make is that if its almost always the guy that has to ask the girl out then its always the guy that has to pay. He already got the guts to ask you out and now he is expected to pay for everything too?
IMO it should be 50/50 right off the bat. If the girl is gonna get upset over that then fuck her. I'm not gonna waste my time with someone like that when their are thousands of other girls out there.

You're married. 'Nuff said :p

Interventions are the best my friend :D

But we never had to go as far as to punching out one of our boys to get the point across thankfully!

Well, I think we gotta be careful. You can't just do what you want to do, especially in Vancouver where anything you do to a girl can potentially put you in jail. I'd rather be a pussy than serving jail time.

We're not saying to rape or murder the girl...

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See, that's one of my biggest concerns too, but why ask someone out on a date if you don't think you can afford it?

I can afford it. Just usually on a first date you are getting a feel for if you and the other person are compatible. Why should I spend my money buying some chick food if I dont even know if I like her yet.
Its sorta like going to the bar. Talking to some chick and buying her a drink. Unless she is my friend that just isnt gonna happen.

Believe me, for the right girl... it will.

believe me.. for the right girl I wont need to since she wont be stuck up on "him buying me dinner on the first date gives a good impression"

It has NEVER been an issue with me. Either we had a connection or we didnt. Also in my experience most girls know if they want to go on a second date with you before the bill comes.

Thanks for that, anymore cliched contrivances you want to dispense on us sans-testicle plebians?

Tubgirl? :D

Maybe its rare but cant someone be a nice guy with an edge. You can be a nice guy and hold doors for people, or pay on a first date, or be considerate to your companion. But you could also let your companion know if they are doing something that you dont like or disagree with, back up a friend in need or knock the shit out of someone if they disrespect you. Why does it have to be you're either a pussy or you're an asshole.

Y'know, I still don't get your logic.

If you invite someone to your house for dinner, do you expect them to cook it for you? No... Because you invited them to your house for dinner.

If you invited someone to dinner at a nice restaurant, do you think they expect to pay for it? It doesn't matter if it's a date, or if it's a friend visiting out of town - you're still inviting them out for *something*.

Exactly.

I wish I could punch you in the throat, and the balls, through the computer.