And advice like this is why the divorce rate is 50%. Good job people!

kivyee, if you have something better, please contribute, or save the negativity.

bcrdukes, keep working on 2003protege. She almost said yes.

Ulic, yes I do know what you mean. I understand. I don't want people to naturally follow me. I want them to question me, and I only want to be accepted/have my advice taken (etc) when the other person asks me to lead or to give advice. Whether or not they follow through matters little to me, because those who truly want it will take it, and those who don't aren't ready to hear it. I'm no sheep herder.

bumped for joe

true that.

Btw, this was one of the better threads in here.

lol I read that and thought "What the fuck do I care about this thread...?"

Can I ask a mod to change Joe413617 or whatever's name to "SpinelessJellyfish"? More fitting, less like my own name.

lol..my first time reading this thread. I want to know how to get into her pants on the first date :D

To get into a girls pants on a first date you first need to make sure she is comfortable with you. Then touch her alot (as long as she is comfortable with you).. I'm not saying grab her tits.. just when you walk with her touch the small of her back.
Slowly try to become more sexual throughout the date with the way you talk and act. Bring her back to your place and things should just fall into place. Girls want a good banging as much as guys do.
Also another tip is to get her to meet you at your place before the date. Hang out there for a couple minutes. Let her get comfortable in your place before you even go out. If she has already been their once it is most likely easier to get her back after.

good read...but I guess that only happens when you are dating white girls? lol

not really.. any girl is gonna find it more comfortable to come back to a place she has already been... even if it was just for a couple minutes it just isnt as strange as a place anymore..

This from the guy that lives with his parents. :rolleyes:

that has never been an issue.. maybe if I was wasting all my money on stupid crap and not working towards anything it would be an issue but since I am saving up for a place right now (I've said that I will never pay someone elses mortgage) girls actually respect me more..

I think is alright for the guys to pay for dinner the first time. Then when u guys are going for desert or moive the girl can pay. If the date ends after dinner the gauy cna jokely say next time u will have to pay. That way the guy can go out with the girl again.

I think it is also unfair to spilt the bill or ask the girl to pay if she is going to school and doens't have a job. I mean where is she going to get her money from? However if she does have a job(even part time) and expects the guy to pay all the time then sth is wrong.

Also different ppl have different standards so u can't really apply the same standard to everyone else.

hmm all the guys i've ever gone out with have offered to pay the bill... being asian i think it's in my blood to fight over the bill when it comes... generally what happens after a first date and the bill comes, and the guy offers to pay, i tell them we'll do 50/50 this time, and he can foot it next time ;)

I never pay for desert :D
You are saying that its not fair for a girl to pay if she doesnt have a job (is she a bum?) or is going to school.
Well what if I'm going to school or dont have a job.. then should the girl be expected to pay for me?

There is such a thing that's called a line of credit. You don't have to save up money till your 35 to pay for a half decent place. Just admit it, you like your mom's cooking.

I will be buying by summer time..
I cook more then my mom does ;)

Your mom must hate you, or really like you :D

ouch, you are buying one at the peak season? I am selling mine
this spring because the price is too high.

i have met countless asian girls, doesn't matter she is rich or poor
and job or no job, they just sit there and expect me to pay. I
don't care if I pay most of the time, but it's their "you asked me
out, are you expecting me to pay?!?!"attitude which sickens me.
i usually stopped going out with them after 2-3 times.

If the girls i met were just like you, next time i dine out i will pay
the bill on the way to washroom.

she works late so either me or my dad do all the cooking so when she gets home dinner is ready :)

asian_XL: If the girls i met were just like you, next time i dine out i will pay
the bill on the way to washroom.


sry i didn't quite understand that, is that a good thing or a bad thing?

good thing

ok thanks 3zee. i couldn't tell.

i agree that the attitude of the guy paying isn't a good one to have, it's basically taking the guy for granted. there are a few of my male friends who don't let me pay when we go out and eat, but it hasn't caused me to stop offering or attempting to pay and occaisionally they do cave in.

i thought it would just be polite common courtesy to at least offer even though you know you wouldn't have to oay in the end. no one likes to be taken advantage of or taken granted for right? regardless of whether one is employed or not, money is money and everyone's gotta work for it so it's just being considerate.

If the guy pays, he expects the girl to find some other way to compensate, usually through sexual services. If you don't see any type of sexual future with the guy, don't freeload, and at least offer to pay your share and never see the guy again.

pay the bill in the middle of a dinner w/o letting her know = no bill fighting and leave a good impression, like "i have taken care everything"

:rolleyes: I can see you are this type of person..pick her up with ur porsche, pay for her dinner and rock your cock out.