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Old 10-31-2007, 10:31 AM   #1
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Cop car killing two this moring in Burnaby

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Old 10-31-2007, 10:37 AM   #2
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Old 10-31-2007, 10:39 AM   #3
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Two dead and several hurt after RCMP cruiser and two cars collide

Crash scene: Intersection of Kingsway and Royal Oak
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Wednesday, October 31 - 07:25:00 AM

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BURNABY (NEWS1130) - A police cruiser has been involved in a deadly crash in Burnaby at the intersection of Kingsway and Royal Oak. It happened just before two this morning. A police cruiser was responding to what the RCMP is calling, a "priority call", with lights and siren on.

The police car was travelling west on Kingsway when it slammed into a car at the intersection of Royal Oak. The two people in that car are now dead. The side of their Cavalier was torn open. A third vehicle, an SUV, was also hit, and the driver of that vehicle and the officer driving the cruiser were both taken to hospital but their injuries aren't that bad.

The officer is now out of hospital and recovering at home. Corporal Alexandra Mulvihill says they're now trying to figure out if the officer was approaching a red light when the crash happened. She says the proper protocol is that they ensure everybody's safety so they're expected to stop or slow down before driving into the intersection. She says she can't confirm yet what the light sequence was at the time.

The intersection of Kingsway and Royal Oak is still closed and it will be some time yet before it's opened.
I think I can attribute this to two things..

1) People not properly pulling over for police, most people I see on the roads wait until the last minute or don't bother at all.

2) The casual use of police sirens in audio media..

I'm so used to hearing police sirens being used in music, on news broadcasts that half of the time I think I'm hearing it out of my stereo instead of the police.. until I see them right behind me.
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You may be right, but I'll withhold my judgment for now, although I see #1 all the time and I just think it's a matter of time before an ambulance gets hit because some douchebag in his riced-out Civic didn't pull over.
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I think I can attribute this to two things..

1) People not properly pulling over for police, most people I see on the roads wait until the last minute or don't bother at all.

2) The casual use of police sirens in audio media..

I'm so used to hearing police sirens being used in music, on news broadcasts that half of the time I think I'm hearing it out of my stereo instead of the police.. until I see them right behind me.

i second that i always see people not pulling over for sirens there stupid and this is the end result of what eventually happens if people dont pull over properly
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i passed by the crash at around 940ish

and the damages on both the cars were catastrophic IMO

the silver cavailer was like totally destroyed in the front end, as well as the cop car...
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or maybe the officer didn't have his siren on to begin with?
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Or maybe he breezed through the intersection thinking it was clear, since that one's got some wierd visibility with the angle the roads meet at/crest of a hill.

EDIT: Shouldn't be much of an investigation; that intersection's got a red-light camera.
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Watched part of this on the news in the morning, i saw the Cavalier and the RCMP cruiser, and they are totaled.
I want to know what actually happend. Someone must have been going really fast for that type of accident to happen.

Either the Cavalier didn't slow down beacuse they didn't hear the sirens/lights.
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The police didn't bother to slow down durning the intersections since it was late at night.
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Little bit of both.

From the looks of it, It seems like the RCMP rammed the Cavalier beacuse the front of the RCMP cruiser was pushed in a way where it doesn't look like it could be from a side hit. But this is just my point of view so it's not worth much. Maybe my percption is wrong, but oh well.

RIP and hope they solve this mess.
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That's weird - the Corolla's passenger side is pretty much destroyed. But how did the driver get injured/killed?

Edit: Oops I mean Cavalier, not Corolla.
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like what the police media representative said, whether a civilian give the yield of way to the police or not, the police should ensure everyone's safety before crossing any intersection.

the point is,

if:

the cavalier went through the intersection while the traffic light is green

then:

The police should hold all responsiblity to the accident whether he has his siren on or not.
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Old 10-31-2007, 02:33 PM   #13
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Correct; the MVA clearly puts the onus of liability on the operator of the emergency vehicle:

122 (1) Despite anything in this Part, but subject to subsections (2) and (4), a driver of an emergency vehicle may do the following:

(a) exceed the speed limit;

(b) proceed past a red traffic control signal or stop sign without stopping;

(c) disregard rules and traffic control devices governing direction of movement or turning in specified directions;

(d) stop or stand.

(2) The driver of an emergency vehicle must not exercise the privileges granted by subsection (1) except in accordance with the regulations.

(3) [Repealed 1997-30-2.]

(4) The driver of an emergency vehicle exercising a privilege granted by subsection (1) must drive with due regard for safety, having regard to all the circumstances of the case, including the following:

(a) the nature, condition and use of the highway;

(b) the amount of traffic that is on, or might reasonably be expected to be on, the highway;

(c) the nature of the use being made of the emergency vehicle at the time.
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That's weird - the Corolla's passenger side is pretty much destroyed. But how did the driver get injured/killed?
Cavaliers have horrible side impact crash ratings (at least they used to)


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like what the police media representative said, whether a civilian give the yield of way to the police or not, the police should ensure everyone's safety before crossing any intersection.

the point is,

if:

the cavalier went through the intersection while the traffic light is green

then:

The police should hold all responsiblity to the accident whether he has his siren on or not.
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EDIT: Shouldn't be much of an investigation; that intersection's got a red-light camera.

Watched the news, News reporter said it was an inactivated red-light camera.

Witnesses said the light was red for the RCMP cruiser... but who knows.
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You may be right, but I'll withhold my judgment for now, although I see #1 all the time and I just think it's a matter of time before an ambulance gets hit because some douchebag in his riced-out Civic didn't pull over.
i believe this has happened before because the person was listening to their stereo too loud

anyways, when i was in vegas, the ambulance drivers never stopped at the intersection, they just ran it without slowing down and the people there knew to pull over to the side
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i know from a friend that when ur driving any type of emergency vehicle, if there is an accident you are held liable to all damages if its ur fault, ICBC won't cover you

from what i heard at the JI, duno if its true?
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2) The casual use of police sirens in audio media..

I'm so used to hearing police sirens being used in music, on news broadcasts that half of the time I think I'm hearing it out of my stereo instead of the police.. until I see them right behind me.
The music is too damn loud then if it's on par with the noise level sirens make. Then again the music shouldn't automatically get increasingly louder as time passes anyway.

Anyone that can't distinguish music and real sirens shouldn't drive.
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Why does no one point out the possibility of the police car running a red light just because he didn't want to stop at the red light? (except death_blossom)
I have frequently witness police cars driving normally, then turns on the siren all of a sudden right before a red light, passes it, and then turns off the light and continues driving normally. Which seems to me like they are abusing their authority
Eventho they said the officer was responding to a "Priority Call", they could be doing this just to cover their own ass.

I just hope they thoroughly investigate the accident... because people's lives are lost.
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I wonder how the woman who was threatening suicide (the call the cop was responding to) feels about this accident...
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That's weird - the Corolla's passenger side is pretty much destroyed. But how did the driver get injured/killed?
When you get hit that hard from the side, seatbelts aren't going to really prevent your head from smacking into the side window or from your neck breaking from the enormous g loads.
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I wonder how the woman who was threatening suicide (the call the cop was responding to) feels about this accident...
I'm wondering if she killed herself or not after this... pussy.
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man I live like 3 mins away from there, RIP to those who died.
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anymore links/info?
http://www.canada.com/globaltv/bc/index.html

look under "police cruiser crash"

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