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Old 04-01-2008, 10:10 PM   #26
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my parents 350z doesnt have a spot for a license plate
Yes it does, it just needs the bracket. Any 350z sold new in Canada would have come with it. It is either installed when the car is PDI'd at the dealership apon arrival or kept with the car and provided with purchase.


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a lotus elise doesn't come with holes for a front plate either.
The bracket for the elise mounts up under the front bumper and comes up just infront of the lower lip. The have ones for euro plates too, any google image search will show you it.
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Old 04-01-2008, 10:24 PM   #27
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He probably just wanted something that fits the thin bumper nicely, AKA the wide plates issued in Europe.

But we all know ICBC hates cars AND the people who drive them (as made evident by them selling write-offs without disclosure at auction...)
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But we all know ICBC hates cars AND the people who drive them (as made evident by them selling write-offs without disclosure at auction...)
I think that is evidence for their love of money, not hate for people.
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see the word in the nevada law is "designed" and most cars are not "designed" to have a front plate on them... no vw is... no nissan is... no bentley, lambo, ferrari etc... in reality no car built by a manufacturer that is outside of north america "designs" a place to hold a front license plate... it is not visually appealing... and it kills the lines of the car! All the above stated brands require drilling or some modification to be made to the overall design of the car... also I think that it is bogus that our insurer issues plates and licenses! And I still ask why 5 provinces do not require a front plate... laws should be universal across the country... If the front plate was so important to be seen it would be lit up like the rear... and the headlights at night obscure the the plate as well... and the front plate actually helps with laser speed detection... radar doesn't need help of a reflective surface



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Yes it does, it just needs the bracket. Any 350z sold new in Canada would have come with it. It is either installed when the car is PDI'd at the dealership apon arrival or kept with the car and provided with purchase.




The bracket for the elise mounts up under the front bumper and comes up just infront of the lower lip. The have ones for euro plates too, any google image search will show you it.
This is exactly my point - there isn't a vehicle today that comes without some provisions for mounting a front plate. Whether the dealer installs that mount or not, at your request, does not exempt you from the law... and the law is, two plates... one front, one rear... unmodified, unbent, unobstructed... not in the window... properly mounted, on the front of the car.

Such an easy concept... look at my car (in sig)... I drilled two holes for the front plate, and I can honestly say - I've never been pulled over in it.
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This is exactly my point - there isn't a vehicle today that comes without some provisions for mounting a front plate. Whether the dealer installs that mount or not, at your request, does not exempt you from the law... and the law is, two plates... one front, one rear... unmodified, unbent, unobstructed... not in the window... properly mounted, on the front of the car.

Such an easy concept... look at my car (in sig)... I drilled two holes for the front plate, and I can honestly say - I've never been pulled over in it.
Or as I pointed out earlier in the thread, if some of the creativity that goes into the excuses for not having a front plate mounted, were channeled into fabrication instead, there's no reason one can't MAKE an appropriate bracket and avoid drilling.
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me nieghbours ferrari 430 doesnt have a front plate on it. he never got in trouble for it.
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Or as I pointed out earlier in the thread, if some of the creativity that goes into the excuses for not having a front plate mounted, were channeled into fabrication instead, there's no reason one can't MAKE an appropriate bracket and avoid drilling.
I once saw a custom hot rod with an L shaped piece of metal for the bracket, long side of the L went under the car and attahced to a part of the frame. I looked under and he used wing nuts so you could take the plate and whole bracket off in like 20 seconds. So yeah, a little creativity can solve the mounting problem.

As to the sticker, doesn't anyone see a problem with making a "forgery" of a government issued plate? What's next, making copies of your drivers license and putting one in each car so you always have one to present to an officer?

It might be smart of ICBC to have a sticker as an option. Like custom plates. If they go through the trouble of making a custom plate, then why not allow a custom sticker? Then people who want one can pay for it.
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I once saw a custom hot rod with an L shaped piece of metal for the bracket, long side of the L went under the car and attahced to a part of the frame. I looked under and he used wing nuts so you could take the plate and whole bracket off in like 20 seconds. So yeah, a little creativity can solve the mounting problem.
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As to the sticker, doesn't anyone see a problem with making a "forgery" of a government issued plate? What's next, making copies of your drivers license and putting one in each car so you always have one to present to an officer?
I was thinking the same kinda thing... what's the stop someone from making a fake front plate for the cameras?

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It might be smart of ICBC to have a sticker as an option. Like custom plates. If they go through the trouble of making a custom plate, then why not allow a custom sticker? Then people who want one can pay for it.
The stupid thing with this whole idea is still that the guys arguing against the front plates because they don't want to deface their precious cars by drilling mounting holes, are instead going to put some goopy sticker on their expensive paint jobs?? Puh-leeeeeze.
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if you have enough money to have a sticker for a license plate, damn... you'd have enough money to just pay off the 100 dollar ticket.
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I was thinking the same kinda thing... what's the stop someone from making a fake front plate for the cameras?



The stupid thing with this whole idea is still that the guys arguing against the front plates because they don't want to deface their precious cars by drilling mounting holes, are instead going to put some goopy sticker on their expensive paint jobs?? Puh-leeeeeze.
Just wanted to say, stickers do not damage the paint. All you do to remove it is attatch a rubber sander to a compressed air drill and it comes right off without damaging any paint what-so-ever. Although I have my own personal solution to my front bumper. I use a repair plate. You can't be pulled over, the car is "under repairs" and it's a special plate number format so police don't even bother pulling you over.
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Although I have my own personal solution to my front bumper. I use a repair plate. You can't be pulled over, the car is "under repairs" and it's a special plate number format so police don't even bother pulling you over.
You can be pulled over. I always check repair plates.

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44 (1) For the purpose of this section, "repairer's garage" means a place of business primarily designed or used for the purpose of repairing motor vehicles or trailers, but does not include a place of business from which motive fuel, lubricating oil, antifreeze or other similar products, and services incidental to them, are sold or provided except in relation to repairs.

(2) The Insurance Corporation of British Columbia may, on receiving an application in the form the corporation requires, and payment of the prescribed fee, and payment of the insurance fee prescribed under the Insurance (Vehicle) Act, issue to the owner of a repairer's garage a repairer's licence and the number of corresponding number plates that the owner applies for.
(3) A motor vehicle or trailer being driven, operated or towed on a highway by the owner of a repairer's garage, or his or her agent or employee, for the purpose of repairing, testing or rendering a service incidental to the repairing or testing, of the motor vehicle or trailer, and that has attached to it a number plate issued to the owner under subsection (2), is deemed to be sufficiently registered and licensed for the purposes of this Act and the Commercial Transport Act.
There are plenty of checks we can do to ensure that the plate isn't being mis-used. If the plate is being mis-used, its a No Insurance ticket, seizure of the plates and a tow truck at the driver's expense to be parked somewhere legally.
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I stop every repairer plate... Half the time they are being used contrary to the law.
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if you own an exotic car, you can surely pay the $100 ticket for no front plate.
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I stop every repairer plate... Half the time they are being used contrary to the law.
the best is seeing dealer plates at 1am....
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I always suspect something is amiss when I see dealer plates permanently attached to a very dirty (but new looking) vehicle..
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I always suspect something is amiss when I see dealer plates permanently attached to a very dirty (but new looking) vehicle..
Yeah, some clown is abusing the test drive!
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If you were to go to ICBC, and get them to Designate the sticker as the second Number Plate, it would be legit, still get you pulled over, but legit, i see why everyone requires a front plate, but i see all those farm vehicles, and other road working equipment driving around on public roads with no plate / only a rear, and i dont see cops pulling them over, and if its a case of it being a construction vehicle, get the insurance company to declare your car a construction vehicle.
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If you were to go to ICBC, and get them to Designate the sticker as the second Number Plate, it would be legit, still get you pulled over, but legit, i see why everyone requires a front plate, but i see all those farm vehicles, and other road working equipment driving around on public roads with no plate / only a rear, and i dont see cops pulling them over, and if its a case of it being a construction vehicle, get the insurance company to declare your car a construction vehicle.
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Yep...plenty of high speed pursuits with them front end loaders and rollers...some roller chases have been known to reach 8kmh!!!! Plate flipper sales are huge for owners of Cat D5's I hear.
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Regardless, even if I get a $100 ticket for no front plate I wouldn't mind paying it if it only happens once every 2 weeks or so.
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Civics have holes drilled into the front by the dealer to mount the front plates. Some of the US cars don't have this hole and even some civics up here don't have the hole drilled.
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This could just be an employees demo car...
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My car didn't have one either. It was a sunfire. LOL
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