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09-17-2008, 08:29 AM
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Hey guys,
Just an update. Ordered myself the new Haltech E8. 
I'm short of a fuel rail and injectors right now so I'll work on that.
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10-03-2008, 11:19 PM
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#27 | | My homepage has been set to RS
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I'm going to be running HKS Fcon Vpro
can't wait
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10-04-2008, 09:38 PM
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#28 | | Even when im right, revscene.net is still right!
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Microtech LT10S
FS-DE Bored, Forged and Boosted
Tuned by $$$$$$$$
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12-08-2008, 10:49 PM
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I'm running the AEM EMS for a turbo LS/VTEC that was tuned at RG. Runs great...almost like stock but w/ just way more power.
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12-11-2008, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 90civichatch I'm running the AEM EMS for a turbo LS/VTEC that was tuned at RG. Runs great...almost like stock but w/ just way more power. | Who built your motor?
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12-11-2008, 12:19 AM
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Angus, he's located in POCO..
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12-11-2008, 12:23 AM
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I thought so , ct performance right?
he did my sleeved block too
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12-11-2008, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 90civichatch I'm running the AEM EMS for a turbo LS/VTEC that was tuned at RG. Runs great...almost like stock but w/ just way more power. | Ya I saw you with the CT guy at RG dynoing your car , pretty crazy car
over 300hp right?
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12-11-2008, 12:29 AM
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Yes it did, I'm pretty happy with it so far for what it is..
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12-12-2008, 07:24 PM
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i run hondata kpro in my rsx , unbeatable
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12-29-2008, 08:53 PM
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Kent Stacey: who tuned your Kpro? looking for a reliable tuner in BC... don't really want to drive to the states.
AEM in my turbo'd S2000
Power FC/datalogit in my GT-R
used to have a Haltech with my previous single turbo FD
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12-30-2008, 07:27 AM
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geno reda , 250 554 6940 , built my car as well , only guy i trust with it  | |
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12-30-2008, 07:30 AM
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#38 | | Ready to be Man handled by RS!
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i highly recomend you call him
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12-30-2008, 10:33 AM
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#39 | | Total victory requires total destruction
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Microtech LT8S
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03-10-2009, 02:40 PM
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Had an AEM, and now am running a ViPEC V88 much better!
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09-17-2009, 03:32 PM
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#41 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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Hondata S300
D16Z6
Built Bottom End
Stock Top End.
T3/T4 60Trim .63AR Turbo
20psi.
Pump gas
Hondata is the shit, I can't be anymore happier. It comes full with useful functions (just that I don't have use for it), i.e - (Full Throttle shifting, Boost by gear, Launch Control, Antilag, table for NOS tuning, etc)
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09-17-2009, 03:33 PM
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#42 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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Originally Posted by 0piston Kent Stacey: who tuned your Kpro? looking for a reliable tuner in BC... don't really want to drive to the states.
AEM in my turbo'd S2000
Power FC/datalogit in my GT-R
used to have a Haltech with my previous single turbo FD | Go down to C-Speed racing, it is seriously not that far away.
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09-18-2009, 04:57 PM
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#43 | | Need my Daily Fix of RS
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Turbo Drifter,
Sweet on the ViPec! Where'd you buy it? Seems to me there is a dealer in Calgary or something? I am thinking of upgrading to ViPec over the winter.
As for me I currently run Megasquirt 'n'spark. V3 board with hi-res code.
60-2 crank trigger, distributorless coil on plug.
Motor is a '99 Volvo S80 T6 engine (2.8L, 24v Turbo) swapped into my '83 Volvo 240 -so yeah standalone was kinda necessary. 
It works great, if you plan to wire and tune your EMS yourself, megasquirt is great because as was said, there is a lot of community support.
What are the limitations?
Well, only 2 injector outputs. So I run batch fire on my 6 cylinder. three 50lb injectors firing at the same time sucks. It's noisy as hell.
No per-cylinder fuel or timing trims.
not much for freely configurable inputs and outputs.
Dwell is only compensated by battery voltage, so you have limited control over spark dwell which I find annoying.
The d-sub connector is uses for the harness is just that- a f'ing printer port connector.
Megasquirt 2 has a few more features but nothing major IMO.
VEMS is supposedly very good- it is loosely megasquirt based and fairly cheap but uses automotive grade connectors and has more inputs and outputs. The documentation for it is a disaster though. Good upgrade for someone who is familiar with megasquirt, but the learning curve would be steep for a first timer I think.
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09-21-2009, 08:42 AM
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#44 | | RS.net Licensed Vendor
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Haltech's one of the best ECU for the money, IMO, reliable, easier to tune.
Only down side is the shitty software(alot better on new platinum series), and no Knock
detection or Knock control.
Call us, when you have problem, we've tuned a number of different haltech cars, and we are also a
haltech dealer.
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09-22-2009, 01:16 PM
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#45 | | I don't get it
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I ran HKS V-Pro on my 2JZ. Loved it! Never an issue | |
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09-24-2009, 06:15 AM
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#46 | | RS controls my life!
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Going to be running a Haltech E11 V2 on the 2jz soon. awesome unit, except I wish it had knock controll
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09-26-2009, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Muskys SS Going to be running a Haltech E11 V2 on the 2jz soon. awesome unit, except I wish it had knock controll | What are you doing ignition-wise?
A simple solution might be a J&S Safeguard ignition if you are running wasted spark (they don't have a 6 channel one I don't think).
I know it's nice to keep things clean/simple with just one box, the but the knockguard is sweet becuase it gives per-cylinder knock retard.
(It hears knock and it knows what ignition channel just fired, so it retards just that channel). http://www.jandssafeguard.com/safeguard.html
If I am too much of a cheap bastard to upgrade mty megasquirt of the winter I might go with it. 
I might anyways, I upgraded the VB921's in my MS and they new ignitors still aren't cutting it, or the coils aren't, or something.  | |
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09-27-2009, 10:00 AM
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#48 | | RS controls my life!
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Originally Posted by Captain Bondo What are you doing ignition-wise?
A simple solution might be a J&S Safeguard ignition if you are running wasted spark (they don't have a 6 channel one I don't think).
I know it's nice to keep things clean/simple with just one box, the but the knockguard is sweet becuase it gives per-cylinder knock retard.
(It hears knock and it knows what ignition channel just fired, so it retards just that channel). http://www.jandssafeguard.com/safeguard.html
If I am too much of a cheap bastard to upgrade mty megasquirt of the winter I might go with it.
I might anyways, I upgraded the VB921's in my MS and they new ignitors still aren't cutting it, or the coils aren't, or something. | I'm running full sequential coil on plug ignition. I'm just going to monitor knock on the dyno and tune the car on the safe side.
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10-11-2009, 05:42 AM
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#49 | | Boost Lee
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I purchased the powerfc and i also have datalogit for my 93 MR2. I just need to get it converted from genIII to the gen II motor and get rid of the AFM, install 540's, ATS fuel rail, ct-27, etc. then off to the dyno. As far as i know, ATS in the states can covert it.
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10-23-2009, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Bondo Turbo Drifter,
Sweet on the ViPec! Where'd you buy it? Seems to me there is a dealer in Calgary or something? I am thinking of upgrading to ViPec over the winter.
As for me I currently run Megasquirt 'n'spark. V3 board with hi-res code.
60-2 crank trigger, distributorless coil on plug.
Motor is a '99 Volvo S80 T6 engine (2.8L, 24v Turbo) swapped into my '83 Volvo 240 -so yeah standalone was kinda necessary.
It works great, if you plan to wire and tune your EMS yourself, megasquirt is great because as was said, there is a lot of community support.
What are the limitations?
Well, only 2 injector outputs. So I run batch fire on my 6 cylinder. three 50lb injectors firing at the same time sucks. It's noisy as hell.
No per-cylinder fuel or timing trims.
not much for freely configurable inputs and outputs.
Dwell is only compensated by battery voltage, so you have limited control over spark dwell which I find annoying.
The d-sub connector is uses for the harness is just that- a f'ing printer port connector.
Megasquirt 2 has a few more features but nothing major IMO.
VEMS is supposedly very good- it is loosely megasquirt based and fairly cheap but uses automotive grade connectors and has more inputs and outputs. The documentation for it is a disaster though. Good upgrade for someone who is familiar with megasquirt, but the learning curve would be steep for a first timer I think. | Sorry for the delay in responding. Yes the Vipec is sweet, its got everything you could ever want. I got mine from Lightspeed in RedDeer, he is the Canadian dealer for Vipec. I also have a local guy here that is very good with the wiring and tuning of the Vipec. I am running LS1 coils on my 2jz and have hit 24psi with out a miss at .031 plug gap. Its a great set up but if I was to do it again I would have just gone with the 1zz coils off a newer corolla or celica.
Good luck with your purchase, make sure that the trigger wheel or cam sensors are supported before you buy anything.
PM if you have any questions.
Jeremy
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